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A Delivery Robot Spontaneously Burst Into Flames (theverge.com)

Long-time Slashdot reader AmiMoJo shares this article from the Verge: An autonomous food delivery robot burst into flames on a Berkeley, California walkway, as first reported by The Daily Californian. Kiwi, the startup that makes and manages the one hundred-strong fleet of robots, issued a statement to say that the fire was quickly extinguished by a passerby before the city's fire department arrived and doused the machine in foam.... It said that it believed the fire was caused by human error, when a faulty battery was manually inserted into the robot, eventually causing thermal runaway -- the same issue that resulted in the recall of Samsung's Galaxy Note 7 phones. Kiwi says that a new piece of software will "rigorously monitor the state of each battery" to prevent anything like this from happening again.

Kiwi said the incident resulted in "some smoke and minor flames." But video captured of the event shows the robot engulfed in the kind of fiercely burning fireball typically associated with battery fires.

Though no one was hurt, Kiwi's fleet of 100 delivery robots was still deactivated while the company investigated the fiery wreck.

57 comments

  1. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was it oil?

  2. water? by ChoGGi · · Score: 1

    Is he throwing water on a lithium fire?

    1. Re:water? by ChoGGi · · Score: 1

      ... edit? Hard to see the extinguisher past his leg.

    2. Re:water? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The addition of water would explain the transition from "some smoke and minor flames" to "fiercely burning fireball".

    3. Re:water? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lithium-ion batteries contain little lithium metal and in case of a fire they can be dowsed with water. Only lithium-metal batteries require a Class D fire extinguisher.

    4. Re:water? by sjames · · Score: 2

      That's just the natural evolution of a lithium battery fire. The extinguisher appears to be a typical ABC dry powder extinguisher.

    5. Re:water? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Hard to see the extinguisher past his leg.

      Is that a fire extinguisher or are you just happy to see me?

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    6. Re:water? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Lithium-ion cells contain practically no elemental lithium. They do contain a lot of lithium compounds, but no significant amount of elemental lithium. The electrolytes are very flammable though, which is why they go up in flames so readily.

  3. Ai ai ai! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    a new piece of software will "rigorously monitor the state of each battery" to prevent anything like this from happening again.

    Software controls their battery safety? Good thing software is so reliable and unhackable.

    1. Re: Ai ai ai! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      all lithium batteries are software regulated

    2. Re: Ai ai ai! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life

    3. Re: Ai ai ai! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Kiwi is the robot maker, not the battery maker. Thus, I don't think they are talking about embedded software, unless they make their own batteries.

    4. Re:Ai ai ai! by sjames · · Score: 1

      They should go with IMR batteries. They don't have as much capacity, but they are also much much less likely to go up in a fireball even if abused.

    5. Re:Ai ai ai! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      ICR = LiCoO2 (also called LCO)
      IMR = LiMn2O4 (also called LMO)
      IFR = LiFePO4 (also called LFP)

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    6. Re: Ai ai ai! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lithium batteries have an embedded microcontroller for a reason...

    7. Re:Ai ai ai! by PPH · · Score: 1

      Written by a Boeing subcontractor.

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  4. Human error you say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So... they knew it was faulty, making it human error and not a spontaneous battery failure?

  5. Hey! Wait a minute! by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who saw Jason Statham putting on sunglasses as he walked away from it?

  6. My fault ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I did say I wanted my steak well done.
    But 1 star review, it had a kinda foamy taste to it.

  7. That’s normal by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Customers complained that the pizzas were cold, so the AI compensated for the next delivery.

    1. Re:That’s normal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +4, charity joke

  8. Humanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow. The lady who's recording the event from across the street, curses at a guy who stops near the robot for a moment to watch because he's blocking her view. What a self-absorbed asshole.

    1. Re:Humanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, fucknugget, get out of the way!

      I thought it was hilarious, but that's the culture here. Sucks to be you--some of us don't take casual swearing personally.

    2. Re:Humanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't really the swear words, but that it was done to someone who didn't know she was there and the fact she could have taken two steps to the side to change her angle. But instead she decided to stand there and yell at someone. Too lazy to think.

    3. Re:Humanity by ZombieCatInABox · · Score: 1

      So, is that the new excuse nowaday for being a foul-mouthed, ill-bred asshole ? "Local culture" ?

    4. Re: Humanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course. It's not just California but Berkeley - infested with assholes so big that even the most hardened New Yorker would cry like a little bitch after a single conversation.

  9. Them Turrists Done Tooken The Nest Steppe by hyades1 · · Score: 0

    "Abdul...this is a wonderful advance on SCUD missile technology. Now we can target individual houses rather than just random neighbourhoods."

    "God is great."

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    1. Re:Them Turrists Done Tooken The Nest Steppe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jihad news: These western dogs actually pay for the explosives required to kill them! They call them lithium ion batteries, and compete over who can die in the biggest boom! They believe their god money saves them from punishment for sins, but fail to even understand how their own vanity puts them at risk every single day!

    2. Re:Them Turrists Done Tooken The Nest Steppe by Nivag064 · · Score: 1

      "I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am."

      Heisenberg Navigation & Propulsion Systems, delivering unrivalled precision & accuracy (see note a), far surpassing anything else on the market!

      News Flash: top military commanders are horrified at Trump's tweet saying that Heisenberg equipped ICBM's will be configured to deliver nuclear strike capability in seconds!

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    3. Re:Them Turrists Done Tooken The Nest Steppe by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah. OK. I maybe have some slight clue where I am. But my Heisenberg Drive still works well enough.

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  10. Flaming robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the state of flaming homosexuals.

  11. flaming chili by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess the restaurant wasn't exaggerating when they called their offering flaming hot.

  12. Its not really a "fire"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its an uncontrolled discharge (no pun intended). That is the pain with battery fires, nothing is really burning so its hard to put them out, and since the short is usually in the battery its not possible to break the circuit and make it stop. That's why fire fighters hate batteries.

    Maybe a startup that limits "fires" to just one cell would be in order?

  13. Not surprising by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2

    That robot probably has a second job as a drummer for the Spinal Tap.

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    1. Re:Not surprising by tquasar · · Score: 1

      The robut became self-aware.

  14. You guys... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AmiMoJo is SO TRIGGERED right now...

    1. Re:You guys... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off ivan, why don't you go kill your weak leader vladimir putin?

  15. Berkeley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can confirm for all the permanently triggered Berkeley haters commenting on the video that Berkeley residents and students do indeed think that they are better than you.

    1. Re:Berkeley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Education tends have that effect - focusing people on reality.

  16. They use Galaxy Note 7s as controllers? by mnemotronic · · Score: 1
    Wouldn't it be ironic if they used refurbished Galaxy Note 7s as controllers?

    Hey we got 'em cheap cause of the melted plastic smell

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  17. Oh.. my god! by Mats+Svensson · · Score: 1

    Was it delivering butter at the time?

    1. Re:Oh.. my god! by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Fortunately it was delivering marshmallows. A second robot was carrying graham crackers and chocolate bars.

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  18. transformer started fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other news, a utility transformer near me blew up a while back showering sparks that started a small brush fire.

    There have also been sporadic reports of delivery personnel near me stealing over the years. But, they were just human so all is well.

    1. Re:transformer started fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this is more like "The delivery guy set fire to the forest to cover up his theft of a truckload of flat screen TVs."

  19. Glitter and fart-spray? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

    That is so December 18th.. REAL people make their package carrying robot blow the fsck up and burn the thief to a cinder!

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  20. I never considered ... by Candyban · · Score: 1

    I never considered robots can also suffer from a brun-out Probably his colleagues did not spot the early signs, like constant whining and picking up smoking

  21. It is a spectacular exemple of... by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

    a CPU executing a HCF instruction!

  22. Hey fucknut, get out of the way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    jeezus, millenials.

  23. Food delivery robot by PPH · · Score: 1

    Someone ordered five star Thai food.

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  24. Lit the bag... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The robot lit the bag full of poo too soon.

  25. Note to clueless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's not using the extinguisher correctly. (although, admittedly a snapshot doesn't give an adequate "picture"). Note to clueless: shoot at BASE of flame. Solid state reactions are rare. Most (not all) fires happen as solids and liquids are heated & turn to gas, the gas mixes with O2 and reaction occurs (also known as a "flame"). In order to stop the fire, you must remove the fuel source, remove the heat, or remove the air, preferably all three. Water is effective on many "normal" fires because it covers the fuel, absorbs lots of heat (per gram or ml), and prevents O2 inflow (steam pushes air away, water coats surfaces). Almost all flame inhibitors work best when aimed at where the fuel is being vaporized - at the solid (or liquid) / air interface. The base of the flame.
    As an interesting digression, when I worked in a chemical plant, we were required to take bi-annual fire safety course which included actual use of a fire extinguisher. The "fire" was in a metal coffee can and consisted of a cloth soaked in some fairly non-volatile hydrocarbon (maybe diesel fuel, IDK). I was amazed at the number of people (truthfully, mostly secretaries from the front offfice) who even after being told AND shown how to put the fire out, still persisted in shooting at the flame rather than the base of the flame. (Which didn't work). It took the 'guys' between 0.5 seconds and 2 seconds to put the fire out, and same with most of the secretaries, but a couple (two or 3 out of our group of a dozen) took 30 seconds to a minute to finally "compute" that they were doing it wrong and to correct their stupidity. This was as the rest of us "coached" them about what they needed to do and what they were doing wrong. You should not assume that people will react intelligently, rationally, or even sanely in an emergency. You should not assume that people will not behave like terror-stricken panicked self-destructive sociopaths. It was really a lesson for me.

  26. Of even more interest... by alleycat0 · · Score: 1

    ...is that students on the campus where this occurred later held a candlelight vigil for the thing - this should pique the interest of psychologists studying human-robot interaction.

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  27. What by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love how most people are just standing around, recording the thing on fire instead of doing something about it. What a time to be alive when social media likes are more important than real life events.