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US Geological Survey Unable To Provide Indonesia Tsunami Data Due To Government Shutdown (huffingtonpost.com.au)
An underwater landslide caused by activity from the Anak Krakatau volcano is being blamed for a tsunami that struck Indonesia late Saturday, killing at least 222 people and injuring more than 800 others. Normally, the U.S. Geological Survey would report on such events and provide any necessary data it had to the public. But it can't due to America's partial government shutdown, which began Saturday after President Donald Trump refused to sign legislation that didn't include funding for his southern border wall. From a report: The USGS website is dormant as of Sunday, except for a notice at the top. "Due to a lapse in appropriations, the majority of USGS websites may not be up to date and may not reflect current conditions," the note reads. "Websites displaying real-time data, such as Earthquake and Water and information needed for public health and safety will be updated with limited support." According to the government shutdown contingency plan, the USGS will retain just 75 of its estimated 8,032 employees, or 0.9 percent. "The USGS will suspend the majority of its activities with the exception of those functions to protect life and property," the plan states. The document also claims that 450 employees will be "on call" for natural disasters, but it's unclear if that process has been enacted, as the USGS website says the agency is not "able to respond to inquiries until appropriations are enacted."
It's a shame that this far right tantrum us wasting money and will keep government employees from being paid on time. Furloughed workers will get back pay for them not to work during the shutdown. The shutdown will probably extend into January, and employees who are working will have their paycheck delayed. Meanwhile, many very useful but non-essential services aren't being provided at all. Shame on the far right.
They're terrible. Pack it up. We all gonna die.
During Gov shutdowns the departments still get their funding and everyone is salaried anyway. We all took it as an excellent excuse to not go into work and still get paid.
This happened several times over the last two administrations. New boss is same as the old boss and some extra paid time off has always been welcomed.
Trump would gladly sign legislation if Senate democrats cared one whit about border security. For some inexplicable reason they've done a full 180 on it over the past decade (Obama, Hillary and Biden all voted for a border fence) and now they propose to have no Southern border at all because "who's gonna pick my cotton" reasons. I get why they are doing this. Once legalized, illegals overwhelmingly vote Dem. There are some 15 million of them in the country already, and margins are razor thin in a lot of cases, so legalizing even a substantial fraction of illegals means permanent voting majority. But as a US citizen and taxpayer, I abhor this logic, and will do everything I can so they can't pull it off. This is bullshit, pure and simple. I demand a protected Southern border, now.
2020
They don't pay US taxes, fuck off!
Lock him up
Why isn't the Indonesian Geological Survey providing tsunami data?
Eh, whatever, no white people died, right?
I blame the democrats, for failure to provide a better candidate than Trump.
I suppose that's one way of bringing his career to an end. He may think they will keep him around like zombie RBG, but the Dems love a good scapegoat too. I predict he will find some reason to leave before 2020.
This one of the more directly observed cases....
So we can now add 222 cases of murder directly to Trump.
That's -our- southern border wall.
Border security NOW.
A "shutdown" pissing contest where one side isn't impotent, this should be good.
Hey guess what? If it were not for Trump the government would still be fully up (only.a tiny part is really shut down) - at the same time it is ALSO true that if even ten Democrats agreed to fund the wall, the government would be fully up as well.
This is what I despise about modern politics. We place this blame squarely on Trump or Schumer, but in reality can those fuckers in Congress not really all vote for themselves? It would seem not, Schumer or Trump is large and in charge!
I say shut it all down for a year and see what we really need. In the meantime I am SO SORRY you canâ(TM)t get technical specs on exactly what killed hundreds of real humans.
Are taxes still being taken from your paycheck? Then the unstoppable juggernaut of government is far from being shut down.
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Why aren't the Trump-loving libertarians opposing this on the fact that it will be the US taxpayer paying for the wall when their dear leader promised them the Mexicans would pay for it?
Could it be libertarians are just a bunch of hypocritical cunts?
Those who do not learn from commit history are doomed to regress it.
There's a KRAK!
There's a KRAK! in the world!
Pazuzu is hard to the core! Bad to the boner!
Itâ(TM)s all just liberal lies anyway. Trump will tell us all we need to know and so far, he doesnâ(TM)t give a shit. So it doesnâ(TM)t matter at all. Fake news
Mexico is paying for it, idiot. The problem is that the Democrats refuse to allow the funds raised from taxes on Mexican goods to be used to build Wall, and Trump is not letting them get away with it.
How is this not an automated system?
I never voted for Trump, but seriously, why should the US go into debt to China to pay for services that other countries won't pay for at all? Way to point fingers. The OP could run for office.
Trump caved and agreed not to raise tariffs at the last second. There is no extra money. We're going to need to borrow from China to pay for the wall. All that to feed Trump's ego.
You mean that when US citizens buy Mexican goods they would pay a tax? In which case you really do need to understand something: those people who are paying are not from Mexico. They are what is known as "Americans". For clarity: people from the USA.
This is NOT anywhere near "Mexico is paying for the wall". It is "Trump wants a tax on US citizens so the US can pay for a wall".
U r to stupid to govern yourself, u should go back to the Queen (or Putin) and ask for help. How dumb u people must be to a) elect an idiot and b) bare with him? Well the answer to both is simple - u r dumb and u can't comprehend that there is a problem.
Regardless of whether you blame Trump or the DNC for the shutdown, what astounds me is that it is permitted to happen at all.
The solution to this would be to enact some legislation that automatically funds major departments at (say) 95% of the previously agreed budget until a new budget is agreed.
Even if that is not acceptable, some employees are expected to work without a paycheck - again legislation should be enacted that 'essential' employees (e.g. emergency services) are automatically funded.
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I just wonder why it is the job of the American taxpayer to pay for, provide and manage Indonesia's tsunami warning system. We are thanks to both parties in Washington 22 trillion in debt and that is growing out of control.
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Just my 2 cents
[1] This is deceptively put out there to fool idiots into thinking Trump is responsible for dead people who could not get warnings in time. There are two truths that apply here: [a] Indonesia is a nation on its own with the perfect technical and financial capacity to operate its own satellites so they could certainly afford buoys to monitor waves but they choose not to and [b] the shutdown only affects curious people accessing USGS data for personal interest on a web site AFTER the event. NO critical safety-related functions of government are in shutdown.
[2] LAST YEAR Trump warned congress to do its job on time and properly and that he would not sign another slapped-together-at-the-last-moment crap sandwich budget deal. The Republicans and Democrats in congress were all warned A YEAR AGO that this would happen if they yet again behaved this monstrously. Trump also as part of last year's budget deal backed off of his wall demands as part of that deal - a deal which has now been broken.
[3] Months ago, Trump offered to legalized far more "dreamers" than Democrats had even asked for, in exchange for funding his big national security concern (the wall) and Pelosi and Schumer turned him down flat. For all their talk of concern for "dreamers", they traded those people away in order to block Trump from fulfilling a major campaign promise.
[4] The US House passed the bill funding the wall, and Trump will sign it, so the only obstruction here is Chuck Schumer and his Democrat Senators. If only 10 of them cared enough about national security to secure the border, the deal would be done. Interestingly, most of those Democrats voted to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on the Pentagon so it could secure borders in places like Afghanistan and Syria and Germany and Sout Korea.
[5] California alone spent $23 Billion dollars on illegal immigrants in 2017. That's more than 4 times what Trump is asking for. This is clearly not about the money, since simply reducing illegal immigration would save far more money than the wall would cost. The wall is a one-time infrastructure cost (in total it would be about $25 Billion by the worst estimates) but that cost in California is a per-year repeating cost and when you consider all the costs in all the other states it's even more stunning.
Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi keep complaining that Trump's demands cannot pass the Senate (becase Chuck will not let it) and therefore they claim Trump is foolish and selfish and backing a bill that can never pass. Their logic however falls apart if you point out that no bill becomes law without Trump's signature and he won't sign without that funding, which then means their bills also cannot become law and are thus by their own argument foolish and selfish.
Get a new source for your news; no serious person gets their news from HuffPo any more than any serious person would get their news from some Klan newsletter, or some whacko late-night comic.
Yeh what a denn of far left people here. Even the article tries to blame Trump. All those communist senators all said in the last 10 years we need strong borders, but now the want to let in all sex-trafficing gangs and other criminals, without any check... You people must be crazy...
Democrats ruin cities, states and our NATION.
All the worst economies and crime filled cities are strongly Democrat run.
All the best and most prosperous cities are REPUBLICAN run areas.
Maybe its Black IQ, maybe its fiscal responsibility. It could be many factors. But it is a fact : DEMOCRATS ruin society and read the news the least and are the least informed.
It's probably WindBourne. often does that.
There will always be consequences for you nazi traitor faggot Ken Doll and we're going to visit you soon bitch
As if brown muslim people can't handle the responsibility for their own citizens and white foreigners must come and save them from themselves.
American colonial thinking in it's lefty dress.
If the democrats wanted to avoid the shut down all they needed to do was cooperate. Now it will cost them even more. Time to bend the knee you stupid leftie.
Support your local school shooter, give them your firearms.
You'll know the supervolcano eruption has occured when the sky turns black for the next five years.
The Democrats and Republicans had a spending bill ready to go - which included $1.6 billion for border security (including fencing).
Trump got goaded by Fox News and other right wing multi-millionaire professional political trolls, and is throwing this temper tantrum.
That spineless lying sack of shit Mitch McConnell stood there and just said that it's between the Democrats and Trump - 100% bullshit.
If Mitch had and balls he'd stand up to Trump and with the bill that he already agreed to pass with the Democrats, just ram the fucker through.
But no, McConnell and all the Republicans in Washington are cowardly lying pieces of shit that put party before country.
The Republican party has lost all honor, credibility and all sense of duty.
Fuck them forever! Bring back the Federalists!
Put a tax on tacos and other mexican filth. Only traitors eat that garbage - make them pay for it then throw them off the wall into mexico where they belong.
Democrats forced The first and one term Bush to raise taxes to pay for Iraq war. Lost re-election and more importantly the Republican Party headed far right refusing to compromise. Trump swooped in as a change of guard felt worth a risk by many and others apathetic soured they all suck. Careful what you wish for coz unintended consequences. One of numerous speculations. This is Government at work part of the process. For propaganda Congress could offer to match Mexicoâ(TM)s contributions toward a wall ;) though for a win Make it a firewall instead.
"Why aren't the Trump-loving libertarians opposing this on the fact that it will be the US taxpayer paying for the wall when their dear leader promised them the Mexicans would pay for it? "
Libertarianism is a red herring. It's irrelevant to this discussion. Why aren't Trump supporters etc. The answer is that they are stupid. To wit, they have demonstrated a willingness to believe that Trump is somehow getting the money from Mexico. Now they can blame the situation on Congress.
"Could it be libertarians are just a bunch of hypocritical cunts?"
They are, because they will claim others are ignoring reality when that is literally their whole thing, specifically pretending that anarchy does not lead naturally to feudalism because none of us are islands. However, it's not clear what that has to do with this. Most Trump supporters are not libertarians, they are boring old Republicans.
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Japan nearby with similar fears of tsunamis having coined the term offers studies as well. This is a well known risk to many but since hard to predict and costly to monitor we take our chances.
What is Indonesia going to do with the data? Figure out if it was a tsunami or how big it was? At least this point, Indonesia needs aid. I don't know if that part of the US is shut down or not but private organizations should be able to help.
Mexicans don't pay American taxes on Mexican goods. Americans pay that. And since it's American money, it's up to American politicians (republican and democratic) to decide how it's spent.
It seems like in the short term, the workers are not providing the service, the computer is.
So why shut it down unless you just wish to be missed?
The United States cannot stop illegal aliens from flooding over the border without building a wall. World help in various areas affected by democrats refusing to secure America.
They have staff that works weekends and shutdowns. They do not stop monitoring at all. Whoever posted that on the website is lying. Shameful that bureaucrats would use a crisis to get more funding too. Sickening what the federal government does to people. They deserve to be nuked from orbit.
Okay... I'm going to play devil's advocate here... but allow me to present what I think may be a twisted logic reasoning that could show how Mexicans are ultimately paying for the wall.
The tariffs will increase costs for Americans, true... but this increased cost could, in general, translate to reduced demand for imports, which in turn would force the nations from which the tariffs are being applied to have to lay off workers that produce those goods, thereby indirectly harming that nation's economy.
That's the best guess I can take at this... and I expect there's problems with it, but I imagine that those problems are probably based on a reality about foreign trade that Trump, for whatever reason, simply doesn't happen to believe in.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
The Republicans control both houses of Congress (until the 3rd), and there is a Republican President. The two houses did come together and put together a bill to continue funding the government into the new year, when there would be a new Congress to take over. Unfortunately, the President (a Republican, note) said loud and clear that he would not sign it.
Paul Ryan (another Republican) could have sent the bill to the floor anyway for a vote, but decided not to. Note that he easily had the votes to override a Presidential veto (the Democrats were in favor of the bill) but he did not want to challenge the President. This is either easier or harder to understand in light of his impending retirement depending on what you think of his character.
If you think this is the Democrats flexing their muscles, you have an entirely unrealistic view of that party's competence and skill.
This is the Legislative branch ceding too much power to the Executive branch and then refusing to stand up to a populist strong-man.
And "Criminal charges of manslaughter"? Are you serious? You do know that the government shutdown did not cause the tsunami, right?
Why is everyone blaming trump when it is the senate that failed to pass the bill that came form the house?
Has fact checking become so hard that even the reporters, looking at you msmash, are unwilling to do their job and perpetuate the fake news target? Or do they think since they can reach millions of viewers, their unverified accusations will make a better click bait and to hell with being labeled as fake news?
I see only two problems with it.
The first is that I don't really think the wall will stop/significantly impair illegal immigration. People will find a way. When I was a pipe-layer all of our laborers were illegal immigrants. Most of them did not walk across the desert to get here. Some even came by plane.
The second is that if it did work, it would create tremendous economic disruption as we would have a huge labor shortage at the bottom of the economy. Just how much are you willing to pay for a pound of tomatoes? Of course the market would adjust (over time) but there's a period where production is drastically reduced. That's a problem. As wages get driven up in that adjustment (and THAT ripples through the entire economy) your corporate profits decline. That's another problem.
As an alternative, why not just DO the comprehensive immigration reform? You still get some market disruption, but it's WAY more limited in both scale and scope.
Approximately 420,000 federal employees continued to work through the shutdown. The handful of employees needed to handle this certainly could have been deemed "essential" as well under the circumstances.
This is just a cynical political decision to suspend a high-visibility, low-cost service to try to pressure the shutdown to end, exactly like the cynical political decision to barricade national monuments (and even disable the corresponding websites) during the 2013 shutdown.
FWIW, I think the economy is about to crash. The US has entered every new decade for the last 100 years in a recession or depression, within 1 or two years plus or minus. We're one year out and we have shaky market news following a strong bull run.
Although a lot of the underlying metrics look good, I have my doubts, especially in the employment numbers. A lot of the "employed" today are underemployed at traditional jobs or are working in parts of the gig economy that do not provide high standards of living. I have only very recently started to see signs of competition for labor driving wage growth.
I hope I'm wrong, though.
Technology has changed. Cameras and sensors got cheap. Drones got cheap.
Better analytics mean we know that the value of a wall at controlling the border is less than other alternatives. Texas sent the national guard to police the border at a cost of $120k per illegal immigrant caught. Statistically we know those illegals would have caused less trouble than their native counterparts, so we know we didn't save any money on crime prevention. We could have given every American put out of work a full, 4 year ride to college with money to support their families for the cost of keeping those illegals out.
And while we're on the subject, if you want to keep illegals out there's a much, much better solution: STOP DESTABILIZING THEIR GODDAMNED COUNTRIES FOR CHEAP FRUIT AND OIL.
Yeah, yeah, I know I shouldn't shout, but come'on. In Brazil our CIA just executed a plan to kick a progressive chief executive out of her position and put a far right one in it's place. This isn't conspiracy, it's pretty well documented we were involved. You don't think that's going to have consequences? Why did we do it? Oil. She would have spend the oil profits on her country, and we can't have that.
If you want to stop the flow of "migrant caravans" you have to stop screwing with Mexico and South America's economies. Yes, that means the price of oil will go up ever so slightly, and it means you're going to have to vote for left wing candidates who oppose CIA intervention for the sake of American Mega Corps. For some that's maybe too bitter a pill to swallow. But if you actually want your jobs back (or maybe just a "whiter" America, yes, for some people that's the goal and it's naive to pretend it's not) that's how you do it.
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I love all the aggro lib trolls that are just ruskis trying to make conservatives even more fearful.
Luckily for them, conservatives are dumb enough to believe it.
thereby indirectly harming that nation's economy.
So if I want you to give me $100, instead I fund the $100 myself, call your boss and get you fired in a way that costs you money, it's somehow the same as you paying me $100?
That's not playing devils advocate, that is failing primary school level logic.
I admitted that the logic was twisted...
Of course it's stupid, but try convincing Trump of that.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Or in other words, "Fake News"".
"which began Saturday after President Donald Trump refused to sign legislation that didn't include funding for his southern border wall."
President Trump cannot sign legislation that hasn't been approved by both houses of Congress, and the "McConnell/Schumer Shutdown" is the result of the SENATE's failure to pass the budget. Schumer is adamant that there will be no border wall, and McConnell is content to let Schemer continue to hold the budget hostage. Americans by and large WANT a border wall; that was Trump's biggest promise, and he was elected on that promise.
However, the lack of USGS support isn't hampering Indonesia's efforts at all; it's merely the only thing anybody can think of to cite as the "catastrophic effects" of a partial shutdown of 25% of the US Federal government.
... or shut it the heck down.
Period. As a legal immigrant that came on O1 visa I hate the lazy asses who crawled into the first world from their shitholes as "fiances" or crawled under the fence.
From the other hand. Every single foreigner who decided "screw this shit, I am going to America" immediately becomes a spiritual American in many ways more American that people born here. He is courageous, he is enterprising enough to deserve a shot at the pursuit of happiness, to climb to that city on the hill.
That does not mean of course that we should just grant this shot to every single guy who is willing to move to US.
That's why we need a balance in the immigration. The selection. Selection means control. Illegal immigration is unchecked and uncontrolled. Mara Salvatrucha is a very real threat to American way of life.
SO:
Wall or GTFO.
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As I read this it seems like all they are missing from USGS is post incident reporting. I'm not saying that is unimportant, but there wasn't going to be any tsunami warning from USGS anyway. This was a non-tectonic landslide in a confined region. It's much like the September wave, I think: small, fast, and local.
They actually HAVE a local warning system for exactly this type of event, but it has been poorly managed and funded.
Well that is the problem. In essence, Mexico is paying for the wall by other means, (economic pressure, tariffs, etc). But the situation is way too nuance for even 3/4s of the American public to understand because they have no idea what the fuck is going on, and no idea what the fuck they are talking about. As far as mentioning a government shutdown, we libertarians are happy about that. Anytime the Federal government takes a hike and stops burdening the current funding system, this is awesome. In fact, fuck the federal government until Spring, that would be even better. Oh, and cut congressional salaries during that time period. Even better. Furlough everyone in the alphabet soup agencies. Perfect.
What's really sad is that you all (left and right) are a bunch of fucking morons. Not a single person, in this whole discussion, has mentioned what is actually shutting the government down.
We have run out of fucking money.. ALL OF IT IS GONE.
Trump is using this to his advantage (or so he thinks), but POLITICIANS have spent every last dime we have, including everything we have borrowed so far. There is none left.
For the government to continue to operate fully we have to BORROW MORE FUCKING MONEY.
Every goddamn year, without end, we borrow MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
No, Clinton didn't have a fucking surplus. He had a situation where more came in than was needed for operations, and some was used to pay DOWN the debt, but the debt was never eliminated. Shady accounting tricks don't equal reality.
Both sides DEMOCRAT and REPUBLICAN are bankrupting this country. We either get it under control now or we never ever will.
Fuck you all
It is utter bullshit that the shut down caused this. Any emergency alert system should be semi- or fully autonomous. If their monkeys are manually parsing magnitudes and tsunami warnings than they should be sacked.
Trump must have said it over a hundred times - that Mexico would pay for it one way or another, by tariffs, by changes in cross-border currency transfers, by renegotiated trade deals, and so forth.
Given that the wall will, at worst, cost a total of something like $25 billion USD and the gigantic (currently about $180 billion per year) cost of illegal immigration into the USA, and given the massive trade deficits the US has run with Mexico every since NAFTA went into effect and made Ross Perot's predicted "giant sucking sound" a proven reality, Recovering $25 billion USD from Mexico is a complete no-brainer and so easy as to be barely noticable.
As with any construction project (the sort of thing Trump has done for decades) you get funds lined up initially to fund the build (often as a construction loan) and the actual cash comes in later to repay that upfront construction loan. Trump NEVER said Mexico would write a big check - he always said they'd pay in other ways and even said they'd be happy to do it (tied to the idea that in straightening out the trade relationship, relations between the countries would improve and both economies would ultimately benefit).
So tell me, Trump hater, where's the $2500.00 per year that I'm supposed to be saving on my health insurance now with Obamacare in effect??? My rates are triple what they used to be and my deductibles are through the roof, all while I had to lose my plan and lose my doctor (all three are things every prominent Democrat lied to me about hundreds of times).
Schumer NEVER offered $25 billion for the wall. NOT EVER. The closest he ever came was when Chuck (in his own words) ""In exchange for strong DACA protections, I reluctantly put the border wall on the table for discussion," - NOTE: he did NOT offer anything other than DISCUSSION. this was the typical Democrat faux-border-secutiry deal just like the one they made with Reagan in 1986. No actual substance and no actual border security were proposed by Schumer.
Schumer has repeatedly said NO MONEY for the wall - EVER.
TRUMP OFFERED TO LEGALIZE MORE DACA KIDS THAN THE DEMOCRATS REQUESTED IN EXCHANGE FOR WALL FUNDING, and Pelosi and Schumer walked away. This offer risked angering Trump's own supporters as even the liberals at NBC admitted.
What resources will be available for that? Or for predicting tsunamis on coastal cities after?
Utter BS childish nonsense you yanks put up with (but as a Canadian I think NRCan can help you out if that happens)
We have decades of absolute proof that without a wall, all the other "smart" technologies faile to stop 20Million+ illegals from simply walking across the border.
We also have centuries of experience with walls working to stop masses of people crossing them. The Berlin wall was used by an evil regime to keep its own people locked-in under the thum of Marxist governance. The government of Israel has used walls to keep terrorists from easy entry. For centuries, Popes have used the walls to keep people out of the Vatican. The Romans used Hadrian's wall. Rich Democrats use walls and fences to keep people out of their gated communities and off of their private estates. Obama had a wall built around the home he bought in Washington DC after leaving the White House.
No solution other than a physical barrier is supported by actual evidence.
I suppose because the Impact was in Indonesia and the Indonesians were not paying for services to protect their own citizens lives. Live in an earthquake zone and it is up to 'YOUR' government to provide proper detection and warning services. Why the fuck would this be the US governments fault or Trumps fault. In fact Trump could turn around and say see "Indonesia getting a free ride on US taxpayer provided services". I wouldn't normally bother with this but 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' is just getting too ludicrous not to take the piss out of.
Like all the fake left Hollywood peaceniks complaining about Trump removing invading US forces from Syria, they are an actually invading army, not invited, no UN approval and no approval from the US congress or senate, the peaceniks screaming for more war because Trump did not want more want. If Trump wants it not matter what, the Trump Derangement Syndrome freaks oppose it (the fake left actually far right tools of the establishment). US main stream media has become a joke, a parody of itself.
How to make Mexico pay for the wall, create a fund and to put money in that fund, start charging the Mexican government for all illegal immigrants returned, from the point of arrest on, the cost to secure is a US government choice, cost there in after, the failure of the Mexican government responsibility to secure it's border and control it's citizens. So from the point of arrest on, cost of detaining the illegal immigrant, court costs, medical expenses and cost of return to Mexico, all totalled up and the bill sent to Mexico, when Mexico pays, that money used to pay for the Wall. So the wall will save the US government money and the Mexican government money.
The Mexican government should not get a free ride for failing to control it's borders, all illegal immigrants costs to the US taxpayer by Mexican citizens, should be paid for by the Mexican government, that is entirely reasonable and entirely doable. This should be a globally applied rule, all illegal immigrants costs should be billed back to the country of origin, they can always bill the individual when they get back and recover the money.
The citizens of every country in the world, have the right to choose who they will and will not let into their country, and the right to recover costs from kicking out illegal attempts to gain entry and exploit the hard work, services to the community and taxes of citizens, not just current generations but past generations who strove to create a better future for the next generation of citizens in their country. That is entirely fair and reasonable.
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no. it means that reality isn't binary, all of one thing, none of another.
Please to think harder next time.
Yeah right...blame that on the government shutdown. Let's stop being "the world's police" for flipping everything and let other countries fend for themselves a while!
Try this. The agreement to keep the asylum seekers in Mexico will shift some of the 60K a year support burden for them onto Mexico, who obviously won't be up to coughing up that much and save the US big time in administrative costs, and deportation costs too. After enough time of that Mexico may want to cough up for the wall directly too to dissuade even more Central Americans from leeching off them.
Part of me would like to see the shutdown last exactly as long as it would take to balance the budget and pay off the national debt. What an interesting experiment THAT would be.... Of course, that can't happen (for pretty obvious reasons).
I really do wish we had a Constitutional Amendment that required a balanced budget or it just cuts all spending across the board, automatically, until it is balanced. Of course, that does nothing for the $21 *TRILLION* debt (which cost us $310 BILLION to service in 2018 alone, $2.6 TRILLION over the last 10 years), but at least it is a start. In the mean time, raise taxes, stop spending (my preference), or some combination of both!
Can you say SuperVolcano.
e.g. the right wing of the Democratic party opposes it. The actual left wing of the Democratic party is in favor of it so long as we use diplomacy to protect the Kurds from a Genocide.
If you want change you need the actual left. That's the Bernie Bros, the Justice Democrats and the folks running "Our Revolution".
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Deplorable Pride for empty gestures is a go-to move for Trump supporters. For example:
- I support the military by voting for a draft dodger!
- I am proud of a Wall policy that is Too Expensive and Mostly Ineffective!
- Rhetorical support for a sunsetting coal industry is the Greatest Thing Ever!
- Tax cuts for the 1% are exactly what the country, and the Trump Base needs! No money for the middle class and no economic boost! Huge deficits for the foreseeable future! Winning!
- Obamacare, which only suffered by being too cautious, must be repealed!
- A President who is obviously corrupt and lining his own pockets, is Exactly What the United States Needs!
- Draining the Swamp and Replace all the Alligators with Crocodiles!
- All the Best People! So many in fact, they need to keep firing them!
You can tell I have my own reasons for keeping a list like that, one of which is that the USGS just can't be trusted to be up.
The data is international anyway. It's part of the international network for monitoring compliance with nuclear test ban treaties. So any one of those sites should be able to get you everything you need.
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