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Some Chinese Companies Are Giving Employees Incentives For Buying Huawei Devices or Just Giving Them One and Boycotting Apple (nikkei.com)

A growing number of Chinese companies are throwing their support behind Huawei Technologies following the recent arrest of its chief financial officer in Canada, taking such steps as offering subsidies for staff who buy the telecom equipment maker's smartphones. From a report: Many Chinese businesses have told employees they will receive subsidies if they buy Huawei smartphones to aid the company. Most are subsidizing 10% to 20% of the purchase price, with some even covering the full amount. Over 20 Chinese companies also took to social media to announce that they will increase purchases of other Huawei products, such as its business management system.

The show of support has been broad, from information technology providers to food companies. A regional government official said that several hundred businesses were conducting such programs nationwide. Electronics maker Shanghai Youluoke Electronic and Technology is fully subsidizing up to two Huawei smartphones per employee, while display equipment maker Shenzhen Yidaheng Technology will cover 18% of the price for Huawei or ZTE units. Fuchun Technology, a communications service company listed on Shenzhen Stock Exchange announced on social media on Dec. 11 that it would give each of its 200 employees who buy Huawei's smartphone before the end of 2018 between 100 and 500 yuan ($14.5 to $72.5).

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  1. Re:News for nerds, stuff that matters by webmistressrachel · · Score: 2

    Speak for yourself, troll; if you want something so mundane as tech changes to the kernel, there's a site for that: kernel.org.

    The rest of us like /. so deal with it or check out Soylent. ;-)

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  2. i for one say good. by nimbius · · Score: 2, Insightful

    disclosure: im an american.

    our countries rationale for blacklisting huawei are shady at best:
    1. spooky chinese government Does not hold water. Literally every tplink, every cisco, every netgear, and every D-Link are made in China. millions of routers and switches already run on hardware built in or under the direct supervision of the PRC. We've snored through 40 years of offshoring to China and now the government is somehow insisting just this one vendor is a big issue? unlikely.
    2.Violation of ITAR: the federal legal statute that prevents you from selling Hitler a router. If you sell to iran -- which Huawei allegedly did -- then you're going to pay a fine. google "ITAR violations" and youll see a litany of various US owned and operated companies that have violated ITAR including Bluecoat and Symantec. Its virtually impossible not to violate it. not once did the US arrest a CEO of any of the ITAR violating companies and request their extradition. In every single case, A fine was paid and business resumed as usual. these companies did not even legally have to admit fault.

    so what is the REAL reason we cant have huawei? is it because the Honor 10 is so damned good compared to the iPhone? No,..
    The worry is that China will get widespread 5G coverage before the US does, which will allow it to accelerate the development of specific 5G-reliant technologies, like self-driving cars. With the help of Huaweis equipment, China would displace Silicon Valley as the worlds innovation center.

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    1. Re:i for one say good. by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The basis of the complaint seems to be:

      HSBC is obligated to follow US sanctions policy. If it facilitates transactions with Iran, it's subject to fines and prosecution. It is also obligated to perform a certain amount of due diligence with its clients to ensure that it does not violate US law.

      Huawei does business with Iran through Skycom.

      When HSBC asked Huawei about the ownership and control of Skycom, Meng Wanzhou characterized Skycom as an independent company-- when in fact, it was a subsidiary. This can be characterized as bank fraud. It might well have exposed HSBC to serious criminal liability.

      First of all, according to the affidavit described at Meng’s Vancouver bail hearing, Meng is being charged with bank fraud, rather than violating U.S. sanctions on Iran. It is likely that Meng will be charged by the U.S. with violating the bank fraud statute, 18 U.S.C. 1344, which criminalizes any attempt “to defraud a financial institution,” or obtain funds from a “financial institution, by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises.” According to reports describing the U.S. affidavit, Meng is alleged to have personally made a presentation to HSBC claiming that a company doing business with Iran was not controlled by Huawei in violation of U.S. sanctions. If Meng knowingly misled HSBC in order to get some financial benefit or support, this would likely violate the statute—a breach that carries a possible 30-year jail sentence or $1 million fine.

      The Detention of Huawei’s CFO is Legally Justified. Why Doesn’t the U.S. Say So?

    2. Re:i for one say good. by WindBourne · · Score: 2

      Uh no. The reasons for Huawei boycott DOES stand up. The issue is that you will not be shown the full evidence. Ever. Unless you work in the intelligence community. And even then, I doubt it.

      And your last paragraph is total nonsense. Ppl like Trump does not give a flying fuck about Silicon Valley. Hell, he is letting iphone plummet against Huawei and not doing anything about it. More importantly, this battle is not from the WH or commerce. It is from the intelligence community. BIG difference.

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    3. Re:i for one say good. by DeBaas · · Score: 2

      although personally I wouldn't buy Huawei at this moment, the link you provided did not say anything about Huawei being caught spying. The six agency 'expressed distrust' but I didn't see any mention of Huawei being caught spying.

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  3. Who can blame them by lfp98 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    US officials contend they were just following standard procedure and the rule of law, but Meng's arrest was anything but normal. Extending economic sanctions to companies that do business in Iran is one thing, but what other country would kidnap a high-profile foreign executive in transit at a foreign airport and incarcerate them for engaging in trade with a third country? North Korea, maybe? This is not normal procedure, it is shock-and-awe, a willful demonstration of just how far the US will go to work its will on other countries.

  4. You are truly a blathering fool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You're full of shit. Huawei ignored international sanctions and subpoenas/indictments related to major countries they do business with, then officers of that company went into the jurisdiction of that legal order to arrest them. Like anyone else, like the head of Nissan. China, in RETALIATION (which isn't a legal tenet, you idiot) arrests 2 Canadians including a DIPLOMAT on bogus unstated charges and all but blatantly announces they're doing so to influence the legal proceedings of Huawei. None of that is legal on any level. China is a criminal enterprise not even pretending to have legal legs here. You're truly a moron for trying to pretend anything about Meng being arrested, given an attorney, read her rights, having her bail considered AT ALL, and informing the world of all of this including her wellbeing at all times is somehow on par with China disappearing people for months without a word. I hope you see the inside of a Chinese prison some day, for comparative educational purposes.

  5. Re:The Arrest an Attack up all Chinese by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not only that, but now the little white lie "It's ok, I'm Canadian." won't work anymore.

  6. Re:The Arrest an Attack up all Chinese by Ogive17 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Doing business in China already sucks. You basically must bribe the government with a 50% share of any company that wants to do business in China.

    It sucks because of the 1.2 billion (or more) potential consumers.. but giving half your profits and all your technology to the Chinese gov't is not a smart plan.

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  7. Re:The Arrest an Attack up all Chinese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    China is an expansionist Han-Nationalist ethnostate. They are not shy about their desires to see Han-Chinese be the dominant world power and undesirables sent to "reeducation" camps that already exist.

    Supporting or defending China is like supporting Nazi Germany and should be punished the same way.

  8. Has anyone shown Huawei has done something by fredrated · · Score: 2

    wrong, or are we trashing this company from speculation and conjecture?

  9. Re:The Arrest an Attack up all Chinese by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is nonsense.

    Hauwei, One Plus, and ZTE phones were all caught spying on their owners and sending the data back home to China. And no, it's not the same as Facebook or Google. This is at the firmware level.

    You may know that those companies have been banned for government use for a while now.

    There is nothing "racist" or political about it. Companies that spy on people â" no matter who they are or where they're from â" are not welcome. Hauwei's CFO is apparently guilty of arranging trade with Iran in violation of U.S. trade sanctions, and lying about it. That's yet another concern.

    Stop with the U.S-bashing already. There was perfectly good reason to do this.

    THIS was from last February, in case you don't keep up with the news.

  10. Re: Fuck Chinese criminals. Fuck apologists. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That was wasnt the issue. They were selling US tech bought under an agreed to export control agreement to Iran. They didnt have to sign the agreement and they could have sold other tech. But they voluntarily signed a license with intent to break it, did break it, and then tries to hide it through creative finance accounting.

  11. Re: Nobody cares by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    I find this comment amusing when the Democrats have pretty much defiled Democracy with their, "Resist" movement. Democrats LOVE Democracy, until they lose. Then it's, "Eliminate the electoral college!", "Eliminate the Senate!".

    Think about what you're saying. The electoral college and the US Senate are some of our least democratic institutions. In fact, they are anti-democratic by design.

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