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'Two Years Later, I Still Miss the Headphone Port' (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader shares a column: I've been trying to figure out why the removal of the headphone port bugs me more than other ports that have been unceremoniously killed off, and I think it's because the headphone port almost always only made me happy. Using the headphone port meant listening to my favorite album, or using a free minute to catch the latest episode of a show, or passing an earbud to a friend to share some new tune. It enabled happy moments and never got in the way.

Now every time I want to use my headphones, I just find myself annoyed. Bluetooth? Whoops, forgot to charge them. Or whoops, they're trying to pair with my laptop even though my laptop is turned off and in my backpack. Dongle? Whoops, left it on my other pair of headphones at work. Or whoops, it fell off somewhere, and now I've got to go buy another one. I'll just buy a bunch of dongles, and put them on all my headphones! I'll keep extras in my bag for when I need to borrow a pair of headphones. That's just like five dongles at this point, problem solved! Oh, wait: now I want to listen to music while I fall asleep, but also charge my phone so it's not dead in the morning. That's a different, more expensive splitter dongle (many of which, I've found, are poorly made garbage).

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  1. I don't. by Qbertino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because I don't buy phones that don't have one.
    Genius, isn't it?

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    1. Re:I don't. by sg_oneill · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because I don't buy phones that don't have one.
      Genius, isn't it?

      Enjoy it while you can. All the android phones are starting to follow suit.

      and it sucks

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    2. Re: I don't. by fluffernutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bluetooth headphones were made for making phone calls, not listening to music. Technically what you hear through them is not the music itself, but a compressed approximation of the music.

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    3. Re: I don't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It would have been nice for an alternative evolution came out first. USB headphones have been around for years, but not in usb-c form and not as analog over usb.

      Like the beauty of the 3.5mm jack is that it doesnâ(TM)t fucking break. It rotates if itâ(TM)s an L-shape. USB? It will break off the PCB and since that is also your charging port, you just killed the phone.

    4. Re: I don't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, even my bluetooth headphones are quite an improvement from taking that live band with me on every trip.

    5. Re:I don't. by dryeo · · Score: 5, Informative

      And I'll also listen to my free FM radio that doesn't eat up my data plan or battery

      But the FM radio in the phone uses the headphone wire, plugged into the headphone jack, as an antenna.

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    6. Re: I don't. by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The 3.5mm headphone jack was one of the greatest inventions ever. There were attempts at smaller, but the 2.5mm was just too fragile.

      After 50 years, the 3.5mm jack is damn near perfect. There are some potential problems with it, but nothing which is too much of a problem.

      If people want to use bluetooth, they're welcome to it. But I've gone iPhoneX and then back again. A major part of this was the headphone jack.

      What people often don't realize about the headphone jack is that it takes power. This is this real problem for companies these days. A small audio amplifier places a drain on the battery. It also requires space on the PCB. It's extremely difficult to design an audio amplifier with insanely good audio which fits within the real-estate constraints of a phone and also make it so there's no interference from all the surrounding radio circuits.

      So... the solution is to charge us more and remove the port.

      What Apple and the others seem to forget is that we like the choice. I don't like constantly losing headphones because they're not connected to the phone. Or constantly leaving my phone on the desk and being out of the building before I realize I forgot it... because the sound starts crackling. I don't like breaking expensive lightning to headphone dongles. I don't like having to constantly charge wireless headphones. I hate when my headphones run out of battery on the train.

      Now.. here's the REAL PROBLEM

      I don't like having to constantly pair and pair and pair and pair my damn headphones. I use my headphone with my PC to talk on Skype. I use my headphones on my phone to ... well everything. I use my headphone on my tablet to... well everything. I have one pair of headphones I simply plug or unplug. When I use bluetooth, I have to delete the device and repair it every time I switch. With proper headphones I can move the cable and click the button on the headphones to play. I don't even have to unlock the phone.

      I've been hoping Apple or Google will release a phone at some point called "The old fogey phone" for people who want all the features of the latest phone but are willing to live with lesser audio to get the headphone jack.

  2. I know this is too ideal, but ... by bobby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know I'm being unrealistic, but I wish free-market economics worked the way they theorize it should: that very few people would buy a product that doesn't have a 3.5mm port, and the demand would be filled by other manufacturers (unless you're Apple-addicted, then you're at their mercy). It bugs me to no end when the market bends and adapts to the supplier.

    1. Re: I know this is too ideal, but ... by js290 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's actually counterintuitive: "The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small Minority" https://medium.com/incerto/the...

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    2. Re:I know this is too ideal, but ... by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The theory you are mentioning is actually called the Rational market theory. It works when an informed public acts rationally. Not altruistically, not socially responsibly, not any highflatulating weirdly. Simply rationally.

      And you apply it to iPhone market? That is the most irrational market there is.

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    3. Re:I know this is too ideal, but ... by msauve · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Or it could be that it IS working as it is supposed to,"

      OK, if it's working as it should, what's the reason for removing the jack? It's not any of the bullshit ones the marketing department came up with: cost ($800 phone and you need a $40 accessory to replace all the lost functionality), size/space (plenty of phones to compare, a dongle is bigger, and they charge more for larger phones, anyway), water resistance (a jack can be just as water resistant as a USB port). I suspect the reason Apple did it was strictly aesthetics - one less hole in their device. That's not unexpected, they make a lot of form over function design decisions ("you're holding it wrong"). But please, what's the legitimate, real, user benefit of removing the jack?

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    4. Re:I know this is too ideal, but ... by msauve · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, smartphones aren't needed, either. Like them, it is a want. What's the user advantage of a thinner phone? Easier to break? Less room for battery capacity? An excuse to build in planned obsolescence with a non-user replaceable battery?

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    5. Re:I know this is too ideal, but ... by GrumpySteen · · Score: 5, Informative

      Try again.

      The iPhone 6 had a headphone jack and was thinner than any model they've made without the 3.5mm headphone jack. Removing the jack has nothing to do with making the phone thinner.

    6. Re:I know this is too ideal, but ... by kbg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So they can make the USB port waterproof but not the 3.5mm port? And the USB port has more wires and also has power, which the 3.5mm port doesn't

      I don't think so.

    7. Re:I know this is too ideal, but ... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ... water resistance (a jack can be just as water resistant as a USB port) ...

      Case in point. My Kyocera Hydro Vibe (that I bought in 2015) has a headphone jack and is "Certified waterproof for IPX5, and IPX7. Immersible for up to 30 minutes in up to 3.28 feet (1 meter)." Also comes with a user-replaceable battery and FM receiver that works with NextRadio. Sure, it only runs Android 4.4.2 (KitKat) but it does what I need it to using Ting

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    8. Re:I know this is too ideal, but ... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 5, Informative

      And yet thinner phones (2mm thinner) already existed - and kept the 3.5mm jack. Not to mention a hacker added 3.5mm jack internally to an iPhone 7. Clearly it can be done, and clearly thinner phones can be made. It was dropped because Apple was spending $3.2 billion buying one of the biggest Bluetooth headphone brands in the world - Beats.

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    9. Re: I know this is too ideal, but ... by dinfinity · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Horseshit.

      Unless you define 'good' as 'unusably thin'.

  3. expensive mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    removing the headphone port is the most annoying "feature" ever. im ready to pay off my iphone 8 so i can sell it to get a cheap android phone with the headphone port. it's ridiculous. 3rd party dongles are cheap and not built to spec so they burn out and/or have terrible audio. apple charges too much for dongles. i cant charge and listen at the same time on road trips now. dumb. i should have never "upgraded". i am learning an expensive lesson.

  4. Re:Seriously? by NFN_NLN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    USB sticks are superior in every way to a floppy disk; therefore invalid comparison.

    Touch-tone phone ares superior in every way to a rotary phone; therefore invalid comparison.

    Verdict: Point missed.

  5. Want to know why it bugs you? by DrXym · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because removing the headphone jack was a cynical move by phone manufacturers to upsell you a pair of bluetooth headphones. There is virtually no benefit to the consumer of such a move.

  6. Removing the 3.5mm jack was not necessary by Stonent1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There was a guy on youtube that lives in China that was able to source the parts, and free up enough room inside his iPhone to readd a 3.5mm jack. He used one of those lightning to 3.5mm passthrough dongles and stripped it down to the bare minimum. So if some guy in his bedroom could do it, apple could have done it.

    1. Re:Removing the 3.5mm jack was not necessary by Stonent1 · · Score: 5, Informative
  7. Revable batteries... by fbobraga · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... the lack of it was the first "fail" to me (it's a reason why I still keep my S5 [it shines with http://lineageos.org/ ] :P)

  8. I Don't Miss the Headphone Jack by Carcass666 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This isn't an appropriately Luddite response for Slashdot, but I don't miss the headphone jack. Why? Because I don't miss one-half of my audio disappearing when I bumped the cable or, worse, the headphone jack just stop working for one ear because the contacts got messed up in the jack itself. I don't miss the cable flapping around. I don't miss bending/breaking the plugs that for some mind-numbing reason rarely were the 90-degree angle that would keep them from getting bent/broken.

    Yeah, charging headphones is a bit of a pain. But so is charging my phone, my notebook and my tablet. I've learned to deal with that. If ditching the headphone jack truly was a trade-off to allow more room for a battery, I'm fine with it, I'd rather have the battery life. Perhaps if I was also a blogger for Tech Crunch or similar publication, I would have enough devices that the Bluetooth pairing issue described would be annoying, but I don't. For me, and my small universe of devices, Bluetooth headphones work well enough, even the cheap Ankers I use 90% of the time.

    I don't see this as a freedom (or "bravery") topic or even a big deal. It's an area where for reasons of efficiency (or more likely, cost) the market moved away from something. For the audiophiles with $400 cans, they were complaining about the digitized music in the first place. For the people who miss getting cheap $10 headphones at Ross or Marshall's that they could lose or throw away without feeling bad, there are almost as-cheap Bluetooth alternatives. It sort of reminds me when physical keyboards went away. We adapted, and we're fine.

  9. 600 other manufacturers do by raymorris · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just walked through the electronics section of a general merchandise store and there are no fewer than 30 different phone models available within 10 feet of me right now. At least 27 of those have headphone jacks. Most of them are available at a much lower price than the iPhone. Rationally, people with different needs and desires would choose different phones. This LG on my left is probably the best choice for 3% of buyers, the more expensive LG two feet away is probably the rational choice for 2% of buyers, the iPhone is probably the best for 2% of people, etc. The difference between the 2% of people who *should* buy iPhones and the number who *actually* buy iPhones is the number of irrational iPhone purchases.

  10. How long will you have a choice? by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't buy phones that don't have one.

    Tell that to someone who resolved not to buy phones that lack a QWERTY keyboard.