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In Some Bay Area Counties, College Grads Have Higher Unemployment (mercurynews.com)

Higher education is supposed to be the ticket to employment. But in some Bay Area counties, workers with a high school diploma have lower unemployment rates than those with bachelor's degrees or higher. From a report: Experts suggested the Bay Area's backwards numbers, which run counter to the national trend, could be the result of too-few lower-wage workers, many of whom have been driven out by skyrocketing housing prices and the rising cost of living. "We have employers call us all the time (saying), 'I'm looking for low-wage, entry-level workers,'" said Kris Stadelman, director of NOVA Workforce Development in Sunnyvale. But there are few workers willing to take on those positions who don't already have jobs, she said.

In Santa Clara County, the heart of Silicon Valley, the unemployment rate for workers with a high school degree is 3.3 percent, compared to a 3.6 percent rate for workers with a bachelor's degree or higher, according to the U.S. Census Bureau's 2017 American Community Survey, which measures unemployment by educational attainment for workers between 25 and 64 years old. The same situation exists in two other Bay Area counties -- Marin and Sonoma -- where workers with at least a bachelor's degree don't have the lowest unemployment rate.

The trend is starkest in Sonoma County, where workers without a high school degree have a 0.2 percent unemployment rate compared to a 4.4 percent rate for workers with a bachelor's degree or higher. Workers with a high school diploma in that county have an unemployment rate of 2.8 percent. Statewide, workers with a high school diploma have an unemployment rate of 6.2 percent, nearly double the 3.5 percent rate of those with a bachelor's or higher.

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  1. Not news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most college degrees have been worthless for 20 years, this is not news. Entering a trade right after high school and making money during your most productive years is MUCH better than spending that time going into six-figure debt for a worthless piece of paper. Higher education turned into a racket during the 1990's, probably before.

    1. Re:Not news. by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I make more now working in a office than I would've made as an electrician.
      Also, the hours sucked. It is brutal to work in Florida outside in the summer. Or where there is nothing to move air. Also, much higher chance of dying on the job.

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    2. Re: Not news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I didn't realise we had got to the point where office workers make 250k+. Must be an exceptional office you work at. Our office workers get between 35%-60% of us EE techs

    3. Re: Not news. by Highdude702 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Electrician since I was 16 full time minus few years in prison. Was between jobs once tried a call center.. after 3 days of being told I was weasrimg the wrong clothes and that I had to stay seated at my "desk" I told the manager to fuck off and where to put his job and walked out. He chased me down as I was one of the productive people begging me to stay. All I can say is FUCK THAT NOISE! Excuse me while into back to terminating this panel. And fuck a desk job.

    4. Re: Not news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They're not designed to.

    5. Re:Not news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I hate to break it to you but the vast majority of jobs get pretty boring after a few weeks to months, that' why its called "work". Know what makes that survivable? A very comfortable living that allows for a lifestyle you enjoy. Most of us aren't defined by our jobs or have our self-worth tied to them, they are simply a means to an end.

    6. Re: Not news. by NormalVisual · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also, when was the last time you saw an electrician (or plumber, or carpenter, or other tradesman) get his job sent overseas?

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    7. Re: Not news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And those that want the wall are fucking stupid. Audit the employers and fine them for 50k per illegal on the first two offenses, and then take their business license on the third offense.

      Problem fucking solved; multi-billion dollar wall not needed.

    8. Re:Not news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am an artist. I weld. Plumbing and electrical work are also art.

      You aren't doing your children any favors.

  2. Re:There is a reason for it by jwhyche · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does this really surprise anyone? You have a bunch of self entitled millennials that have lied sheltered life and been fed a bunch of bullshit by these professors about how life should be. The come out of this indoctrination not having a clue how the real world actually works and with some bullshit degree in liberal arts. Where they think they are entitled to a job in whatever bullshit degree they got.

    Then when reality sets in and its ether get a job waiting tables or starve they start bitch'n about some mythical fantasy about being entitled to something called a "living wage." Not realizing at the same time they have brought in low skilled undocumented workers that take the jobs that they think are beneath them and do turn them in to a "living wage." The undocumented do this by not living beyond the means the job provides.

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  3. Not Surprising by jpaine619 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not really surprised by this.. We have a glut of college educated people out there. Hiring those people for fields other than what they earned their degree in is.. risky at best.. If the job they are seeking, at the moment, is not what they have a degree in you can be fairly sure they are going to bounce when a more appropriate job comes along.

    That means you're potentially wasting the training you may have to provide. Sure, you might get lucky and they stick around long enough that the training was still a good investment but your gain would be their loss, and that's not an ideal situation either.

    The term for this phenomenon is "over qualified". Hiring a guy with a master's in math theory to do plumbing isn't gonna work out in the long term. That guy wants to do mathy stuff and he'll punch out the second he can. I don't fault him for that, of course, but if you're the potential employer that's a problem. Better to just spend the time training the guy with no degree who actually wants to be a plumber. Sure he might go work elsewhere for better wages, but that's at least something you can compensate for (pay more). No reasonable amount of $$ is going to make a math guy happy being a plumber.

  4. Hold the phone by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The trend is starkest in Sonoma County

    Sonoma County is rural. Of course there are more jobs for people without degrees. You don't need that masters in CS degree to pick fucking grapes.

    I'm not sure this phenomenon has anything to do with the value of a college education, or the number of H1B visas. It might just be a highly localized issue. Let's keep reading...

    Statewide, workers with a high school diploma have an unemployment rate of 6.2 percent, nearly double the 3.5 percent rate of those with a bachelor's or higher.

    See what I mean?

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