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China Successfully Lands Spacecraft On Far Side of the Moon (cnbc.com)
State news agency Xinhua reports that China has successfully landed its Chang'e 4 spacecraft on the far side of the moon on Thursday morning, Beijing time, becoming the first country in history to touch the lunar surface unseen by those on Earth. CNBC reports: The Chang'e 4 mission launched in early December. It took the spacecraft three days to travel to the moon, where it spent the last few weeks in orbit preparing for touch down on the Von Karman crater. The crater is a relatively flat spot on the moon's far side. "China's Chang'e-4 probe softlands on Moon's far side," the state news agency tweeted on Thursday. Citing the China National Space Administration, Xinhua said the space probe, made up of a lander and a rover, "landed at the preselected landing area on the far side of the moon at 10:26 a.m. Beijing Time."
Landing on the far side is a technical challenge, as there is no direct way to communicate with the spacecraft as it nears its target. China put a relay satellite in orbit around the moon in May to overcome that communication challenge. The far side of the moon has been seen and mapped before, even by astronauts of the Apollo missions. But the successful landing of Chang'e 4 represents the first time any spacecraft has touched down on the moon's far side.
Landing on the far side is a technical challenge, as there is no direct way to communicate with the spacecraft as it nears its target. China put a relay satellite in orbit around the moon in May to overcome that communication challenge. The far side of the moon has been seen and mapped before, even by astronauts of the Apollo missions. But the successful landing of Chang'e 4 represents the first time any spacecraft has touched down on the moon's far side.
what did you find...? Missing somthing...?
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Be gracious, lad. This is an achievement worthy of a admiration.
Furst, it's a side poorly understood and very different from the near side. Far more igneous rock and fewer craters.
Second, China is comparing it to land it questionably annexed. Is this an indication they're withdrawing from the treaty for outer space and have the means to defend any territory?
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Sorry...
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Not saying the Chinese look anything like greys...
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Huh? No it's the far side, the side that never faces the earth. And that's why they launched a probe to help with the communication. Probably stupid to ask, but did you RTFA?
Radio telescope without all of the interference from earth. Freedom from satellite surveillance... plenty of reasons
good one....
where it spent the last few weeks in orbit preparing for touch down on the Von Karman crater.
No relation, I'm assuming.
took the picture?
Does the photo look to you like they are selling mass produced rovers now?
Is it just me, or is that just somehow ironic?
"See subject: it's the dark side of the moon, not the far side of the moon"
More of you being 100% wrong. It is the far side of the moon. there is no dark side. The Moon receives equal amount of sunlight on each side, during the lunar day.
No wonder this site mocks you.
mouldy cheese that has a box near it ...says ...made in vietnam
The 18th Apollo mission was planned to land on the dark side of the moon.
But according to Senator William Proxmire, supporting Wisconsin cheese farmers was more important, so it got cancelled. Love how that cheese has become one of America's proudest accomplishments.
AC
Alibaba... Good or Bad... haven't decided.
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But,.. did they really land on the far side of the moon or are they still shooting the landing sequence in a hanger in Beijing?
Do you want a Moon Nazi invasion because this is how you get a Moon Nazi invasion! #IronSky
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Radio telescope without all of the interference from earth.
This is a good point.
Freedom from satellite surveillance
This isn't.
plenty of reasons
I'm going to go with the first point and say that there aren't any others.
It shows that stealing technology really DOES work.
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I remember some """skeptic""" on some forum somewhere trying to tell a moon-hoaxer that the reason you can't any evidence of human's activity on the moon is because they landed on the far side of the moon. Mother fucking lying cocksucker.
Scientific institutions in China do not use affirmative action (AA). Only the best candidates receive job offers.
This meritocracy faciltiates excellence in science and engineering.
That explains by Chinese scientists beat the American scientists in placing a spacecraft on the far side of the moon.
Scientific institutions in China do not use affirmative action (AA). Only the best candidates receive job offers.
This meritocracy facilitates excellence in science and engineering.
That explains why Chinese scientists beat the American scientists in being first to place a spacecraft on the far side of the moon.
its a leap of purpose, a leap of faith that we don't generally associate with the Chinese
https://youtu.be/Q91dmHDuEQU
Matter of fact, it's all dark.
Rather than for instance how many trans individuals sit on the boards of different companies via strict quotas rather than merits.
If by affirmative action, you mean putting science-denying, religiously-bigoted, morally-bankrupted low-brows on the congressional science funding committees, then yes, affirmative action is more than likely responsible for the USA sliding into decline.
Debate is a form of harassment. Do not question my truth.
In other news ... On Dec. 22, 95 percent of NASA's scientists, technical workers and other employees were furloughed — for the third time in the past year.
Thanks for the input incel boy.
Happy Investigation Day!!, you fucking ignorant Repug.
LOLZ!!!!
China continues to surpass the US in all capabilities, from space exploration to manufacturing to financial management. The US would do well to learn from China's successes, and in particular the success of China's brand of communism.
Scientific institutions in China do not use affirmative action (AA). Only the best candidates receive job offers.
This meritocracy facilitates excellence in science and engineering.
That explains why Chinese scientists beat the American scientists in being first to place a spacecraft on the far side of the moon.
Alibaba? Imagine where NASA would be today if it wasn't for TRUMP. My prediction is Mars Bases. An actual *colony* on Mars.
-BeauHD
"Freedom from satellite surveillance", huh? I give up, what possibly could they want free of satellite surveillance that requires the far side of the moon? A Chinese effort in New and Improved Moon Rocks, the last fad to hit the U.S. market. The alleged administration is already preparing to raise tariffs on any moon rocks from China. The illegitimate government of China is going to point to the landing on the far side of the moon as proof they can land on the far side of Taiwan and steal it like they did to Tibet.
Jokes aside, that's pretty cool and I hope we all start doing a lot more space stuff soon.
Americans take on big challenges, because they are big challenges. For example, Americans were the first to fly around the world, the first to fly around the world non-stop, the first to fly around the world in a balloon, etc. Why? What's the urgent practical need to do these things?
There is no practical need. As Kennedy said, we do these things because they are hard. China doesn't. That's not part of Chinese culture. China is known for making a million copies of something that the US designed a decade before. Americans traditionally look at something that "can't be done" and try to figure out how to do it. Chinese study the company procedure to see exactly how a task is done, in detail.
The most important thing here is not that Chia succeeded in this attempt, but that they attempted it. There is no immediate need to do this, they did it simply because it is hard. That demonstrates a new attitude in China. It shows the "American spirit", the spirit of bold adventure, in China.
Americans drive to "to boldly go where no one has gone before" has been significant factor in their success over the last hundred years, a differentiator from from most nation's. (Though partly inherited from Europe, then grown and expanded in the US). To see that in China means things are changing. China is getting something that used to be one of the great advantages of the United States.
IMPERSONATING ME again? Don't YOU have BETTER THINGS to do?? Seriously - grow up!
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America has always been about competition since the industrial revolution and really set in as a cultural thing after World War II. So I'm glad we have another competitor in the space arena. This might throw some more cash towards NASA and drive commercial space exploration. Once China (or others) starts actively mining precious resources in space, then I expect national colonial expansion to be sought after and then finally we can get around to having World War 3 already.
And why didn't King Barry pull that off?
but not like greenscreen and props ala Star Trek mode.
Here we go again.
One meaning of "dark", when referencing places, is "not known or explored because of remoteness".
See definition #4:
https://www.merriam-webster.co...
Russia had more water bubbles in the walk and the overhead greenscreen video features a earth orbit every 23 hours.
China had fewer water bubbles in the walk and the overhead greenscreen video features a earth orbit every 90 minutes.
wtf China, slow down ur spacewalk or it so we can see those water bubbles!
Here we go again.
One meaning of "dark", when referencing places, is "not known or explored because of remoteness".
See definition #4: https://www.merriam-webster.co...
Using that definition of "dark", "dark side" and "far side" are the same thing, so the original post is still wrong.
This may be the greatest space accomplishment since the Russian space walk!
The first lunar probe, Luna 9 landed way back in 1966. And even today a trick like that seems like a huge achievement.
I couldn't wait to see the pictures. They are amazing. All black. Nothing to see. I was in awe. Now, my life is complete and I can die a stupid and ignorant human.
...before we can no longer say that there are two types of countries: those that use the metric system, and those that have been to the moon.
(Okay, okay, so that was never true... Burma and Liberia have never been to the moon.)
Lots of false sightings on the release date. Perhaps they can find it.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Now, lets see if they release data for there?
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
How in the bloody hell is that Trump's fault? It was Obama who gutted NASA and turned them into an out reach program to Islam.
If you're going after Trump be sure it is something that is even remotely connected to him having done.
That's a... somewhat distorted version of events. The Apollo lunar landing program started as a space race. Kennedy later considered seeking a partnership as a move to contain the ever spiraling cost estimates. He also considered scaling back the program or simply cancelling it outright. Dallas intervened before he could make a decision.
Now you have to put your own sats in orbitto around the Moon ti monitor what the Chinese are doing over there, donâ(TM)t you?
In other shocking news China has annexed the far side of the Moon as part of the South China Sea
At the top of your link there is an interesting chart.
It shows China being at the bottom for at least the last 500 years (as far back as the chart goes).
Of course China DID inent one thing a thousand years ago, fireworks. Well, maybe they invented it, maybe they got it from someone else, but they had it a thousand years ago. If GGP's point is that the Chinese invented one thing in a thousand years, I'll grant that's true.
There are good things about people who see themselves as part of a much greater whole, people who do their part in the system. There are disadvantages to everyone being a "cowboy", doing their own thing.
I'm not looking down on either approach. Simply pointing out that they are two different cultural viewpoints.
It's not clear to me how any data can be obtained from or sent to this gadget, unless it can blast a radio signal clear through the Moon? Help me out, guys and gals?!
Let's see: I can land equipment on the far side of the moon. Nobody from Earth can 'observe' what I do with that equipment. Let's build a moon base there and populate it with proper citizens for the stated purpose of scientific exploration.
Now let's suppose that one could 'launch' a rock weighing in at a ton or more and put it into a orbit which drops it onto a point on the earth. Who needs nukes when an artificial asteroid can be far more effective. The technology needed to implement this strategy already exist. Just need an appropriate location.
Power for the moon base? There is plenty of Helium 3 in the soil of the moon, courtesy of the sun for billions of years. Commercial fusion is on the horizon and then there is the TWF reactors which could be adapted to work on the moon.
Protection from radiation? Just bury the moon base deep enough.
All of these ideas are realistic. Just a matter of single minded purpose by anyone who does not care about the costs involved and has the resources to pull it off.
NASA was defunded prior to "TRUMP."
> Now, US is a merely a shadow of what it was doing in the 60s-80s.
Agreed.
> I don't think it's right to say that the US was always looking for big challenges. I think that's period is a relatively short period in US history.
Most people in the US either came here themselves from a another country, often not speaking the language, or their family did within the last 100 years. So on that alone you have culture of adventure, of not being timid. Many of those people arrived with nothing and now own successful businesses - again not by being timid.
The 1800s were the time when Americans ventured into the wild frontier to make whatever life they could make for themselves, from nothing but forest. So this spirit didn't start in 1940.
Caffeinated Bacon/Crimson Tsunami never lies like that. It's most likely you pretending again.
Only WindBourne would come up with such obvious lies anyway.
Only now they are getting upset about people leaving? Where have you been for the last 50 years?
Even when you set yourself up to look good you fail at the basics, and come across as clueless.
Communism, LOL, you idiot.
go back to taking drugs you god damn idiot
So no answer then. Got it.
The chart was for GDP per capita at purchasing power parity in 1990 international dollars. To quote the wiki, that is calculated as "the value of all final goods and services produced within a country/region in a given year divided by population size"
GDP is rough estimate for productivity of a nation. It makes for a poor indirect estimate on the amount of invention and innovation. It obviously also doesn't tell us WHY and HOW one nation ended up with more innovation and another had less.
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