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Hyundai Joins the Linux Foundation To Embrace AGL's Open Source Connected Car Tech (venturebeat.com)

Hyundai has become the latest car company to explore serious open source alternatives for developing its in-car services. From a report: Ahead of CES 2019, the South Korean automotive giant today announced that it has joined the Linux Foundation and the nonprofit's seven-year-old Automotive Grade Linux (AGL) effort as it looks to contribute to -- and reap benefit from -- software developed by over 140 companies. For Hyundai, open collaboration is crucial as it pursues a "connected car vision," Paul Choo, VP and head of Infotainment Technology Center at Hyundai, said in a statement. Car companies have traditionally taken three years or longer to develop in-vehicle services, such as infotainment systems. The bottleneck usually lies in the quality of code their in-house programmers create. According to a case study published by AGL, a connected car uses some 100 million lines of code, which is about 11 times more than the number that went into the F-35 fighter jet. Getting on AGL's bandwagon would also help Hyundai speed up development of its in-car technologies.

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  1. Good model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For paying developers working on large projects, also for paying standards bodies for developing IPC or protocols that the developers both supplant and work with.

  2. Re:Goodbye Linux by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Are there cars available not manufactured by corporations?

  3. Man pages by sinij · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am curious what man page on changing a tire would look like and if there a chance it will have less than a dozen of listed args.

    1. Re:Man pages by oldCoder · · Score: 1

      The tech manual will be automatically installed on your smartphone when you buy or rent the car.

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  4. Re: Goodbye Linux by Chas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mostly it's about self protection for companies that have no intention of abiding by the GPL or any of the other OSL variants.
    Look at Microsoft...and VMWare. Both are violators. Both sit on the board of the Linux foundation. Notice no punitive actions for their violations have been forthcoming for several years...

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  5. Re:Goodbye Linux by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That is what they said 22 years ago. When the likes of Oracle, and IBM started to put their support behind Linux.
    Linux's popularity is strongly related to the big companies who are standing behind it and supporting it.
    Today it is nearly impossible to try to go at it alone.
    Think of BeOS and NeXT. It is a two way partnership where the popularity (and general name recognition) of the big businesses supports the OS, while the big business gets a team of developers who are willing to give them support for low cost, the OS also gets a team of developers from these companies willing to do a lot of support work, while the big companies get their priorities, prioritized.

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  6. Re:Sorry but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That was over 20 years ago since they stopped making the Excel. Now they are one of the higher rated for reliability and rank about the same as Honda. Things change. All American brands are at the bottom. Including Tesla at the rock bottom. Can't really judge something by your experience in the 90's.

  7. So which car model will once and for all by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    officially start the Year Of Linux :)

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    1. Re:So which car model will once and for all by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Year of the Linux dashboard.

  8. Makes sense by DrXym · · Score: 1
    Car manufacturers are (understandably) hyper paranoid about software faults in their vehicles. They even have a lintable subset of C called MISRA-C which is designed to identify and eliminate some of the problems commonly associated with the language - memory leaks, dangling pointers etc.

    Modern cars are increasingly complex things with many subsystems, network connectivity, over the air updates, telematics, driver assistance, HUDs, entertainment systems, message buses etc. Not only must they worry about software faults during normal operation of the car, but also malicious attacks - people trying to unlock a car, or even take control of it. There may even be separate hardware for the human machine interface from the rest of the car and they must still communicate securely.

    Therefore it makes sense that manufacturers pool their resources and try to come up with a security model and framework that hardens vehicle to attack and offers a stable platform to build up a user experience.

    1. Re:Makes sense by DrXym · · Score: 2

      The AGL whitepaper says it has real time support with predictive reaction time. Perhaps that is sufficient for the majority of vehicles, but some might require hard real-time subcomponent for safety purposes. Hard to say without researching a lot more.

  9. Re:Just use my smartphone by Shotgun · · Score: 1

    Have you not seen how much they charge for those "slightly modified from standards" displays? Google what it would cost to replace the radio console in your car, and you will have the answer to why they don't want to loose the revenue stream.

    Remember, they're not designing this for you or I, who can hack in an aftermarket solution. They just want to make things a little inconvenient for the masses who would rather pony up the money.

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  10. Programming quality by mccrew · · Score: 1

    The bottleneck usually lies in the quality of code their in-house programmers create.

    I'm shocked, shocked! to hear this.

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  11. Re:Goodbye Linux by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Are there cars available not manufactured by corporations?

    You could build a kit car yourself from plans, if you can weld and machine. But it will probably suck, unless you're great at both.

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  12. Re: Goodbye Linux by Chas · · Score: 1

    Go pick shit off your foot and eat it.

    Sorry? Did you have a point? Mr. "Anonymous Coward"?

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  13. Re:Oh boy by renegadesx · · Score: 1

    Does it span just Hyundai's division or is it the full Hyundai group that includes Kia? A Linux powered Stinger sounds awesome.

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  14. Re:Makes sense (Real Time) by oldCoder · · Score: 1

    The aviation industry has been doing this for many decades and no doubt have pre-built solutions that could be adopted.
    The medical equipment industry has similar software.
    It's a matter of obtaining the intellectual property for the real-time OSs and such. The apps would be different but the underlying real-time kernel could be the same. The value of well-debugged real-time software would be high. But would management recognize that?
    The old question, build or buy?

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