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Facebook Launches a Petition Feature (techcrunch.com)

Tomorrow Facebook will encounter a slew of fresh complexities with the launch of Community Actions, its News Feed petition feature. From a report: Community Actions could unite neighbors to request change from their local and national elected officials and government agencies. But it could also provide vocal interest groups a bully pulpit from which to pressure politicians and bureaucrats with their fringe agendas. Community Actions embodies the central challenge facing Facebook. Every tool it designs for positive expression and connectivity can be subverted for polarization and misinformation. Facebook's membership has swelled into such a ripe target for exploitation that it draws out the worst of humanity. You can imagine misuses like "Crack down on [minority group]" that are offensive or even dangerous but some see as legitimate. The question is whether Facebook puts in the forethought and aftercare to safeguard its new tools with proper policy and moderation. Otherwise each new feature is another liability.

Community Actions start to roll out to the US tomorrow after several weeks of testing in a couple of markets. Users can add a title, description, and image to their Community Action, and tag relevant government agencies and officials who'll be notified. The goal is to make the Community Action go viral and get people to hit the "Support" button. Community Actions have their own discussion feed where people can leave comments, create fundraisers, and organize Facebook Events or Call Your Rep campaigns. Facebook displays the numbers of supporters behind a Community Action, but you'll only be able to see the names of those you're friends with or that are Pages or public figures.

69 comments

  1. Oh great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet another Facebook feature that will be overrun by Russian bots

    1. Re:Oh great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That feature would not be necessary if more people would just close their accounts. Facebook's value is based on the sell-by date of the data they harvest. When that goes stale Facebook's fifteen minutes of fame are over. Slowly at first, then very quickly.

    2. Re:Oh great by mrclevesque · · Score: 1

      "Yet another Facebook feature that will be overrun by Russian bots"

      Why the emphasis on *Russian* bots.

    3. Re: Oh great by mimi210 · · Score: 1

      thumbs up whatever you want to call it. It's all based on EMOTIONS, not facts. https://xender.pro/ https://discord.software/ https://omegle.onl/

  2. Automatic integration from fake-news... by fbobraga · · Score: 2

    ... to creating petitions to promote them!

    1. Re:Automatic integration from fake-news... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Can I haz petition for cheeseburger, and privacy?

    2. Re: Automatic integration from fake-news... by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      Cheeseburguer? Fake-news!!!111!!!1!1!!

    3. Re:Automatic integration from fake-news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and more work for the bot masters.....

    4. Re: Automatic integration from fake-news... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I can haz cheeseburder and freedom fries?

  3. Impeach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Impeach!

    1. Re: Impeach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Yes impeach the speaker of the house.

  4. Can we petition to end facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Because that would be it’s most useful feature

    1. Re:Can we petition to end facebook by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      I would settle for Zuck being strung up by the balls, if he still has his. Some cucks don't.

    2. Re:Can we petition to end facebook by uulbri · · Score: 1

      :+1 I would really like to see this pseudo-social networks madness to end but I'm not really optimistic.

      You want to share things ? There are privacy friendly alternatives. You want to petition ? There are privacy friendly alternatives. You want to organize events ? There are privacy friendly alternatives. Actually there are privacy friendly alternatives for everything (I say alternatives but most of the times the pseudo-social networks didn't invent anything, and the so-called alternatives are the original...).

      Only the infinite laziness of the users lead to the existence of monstrosities like FB. The worse being when governments or NGOs start using it for their own communication, pushing the citizens into thinking that giving up on any kind of privacy is something normal...

    3. Re:Can we petition to end facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want to petition ? There are privacy friendly alternatives.

      Indeed. It's called a clipboard and a piece of paper, and it's surprisingly a lot more effective than online petitions because you can more easily verify the signatures.

      Now, if we were in a society that used PGP/GPG signatures more commonly and everyone had established themselves at least a little bit in their neighbours' WoT, online petitions combined with crypto sigs *could* be as effective as paper ones, but we're just not at that stage of readiness at this time.

  5. Sign my petition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for the elimination of Facebook.

  6. Proles promulgate petitions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook is helping the authorities know your political leanings with this petition "feature".

    If you think that doesn't matter, you need to read more history.

    1. Re: Proles promulgate petitions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's all part of their plan once the wall is built to round up everyone, enslave a few and put the rest to death.

    2. Re: Proles promulgate petitions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only you hadn't given up all your means of defense. Suck on it, libcucks.

  7. Idiot spin by TimothyHollins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Community Actions could unite neighbors to request change from their local and national elected officials and government agencies. But it could also provide vocal interest groups a bully pulpit from which to pressure politicians and bureaucrats with their fringe agendas. Community Actions embodies the central challenge facing Facebook. Every tool it designs for positive expression and connectivity can be subverted for polarization and misinformation. Facebook's membership has swelled into such a ripe target for exploitation that it draws out the worst of humanity. You can imagine misuses like "Crack down on [minority group]" that are offensive or even dangerous but some see as legitimate. The question is whether Facebook puts in the forethought and aftercare to safeguard its new tools with proper policy and moderation. Otherwise each new feature is another liability.

    I see this again and again from the mentally stunted. Yes, a petition can be launched to spread awareness of animal torture. A petition can also be launched to inspire more animal torture. That is not subversion! It is the same damn thing, but with the moral values inverted! What we in the west consider great moral virtues may be considered absolutely haram in the middle-east. The same thing happens within a country, where some people vote right and some people vote left. Don't pretend like it's some sort of nefarious scheme to voice your (quite possibly retarded) opinion just because other's don't share it.

    The problem with the FB petition system is that it is open to everyone, which means that it's open to even the smallest groups within society, the extremists. As long as you force a threshold before any petition can be seen easily, it will be fine. Dumb petitions that relate to American Idol will still be viral, but extremist stuff will be kept to a minimum. That will make the system bland admittedly, but it will work for real issues.

    1. Re:Idiot spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And here we see tyranny by majority in action.

    2. Re:Idiot spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And here we see tyranny by majority in action.

      I'm having to listen to your stupid Freeze Peach - when do I get to see the fucking jackboot stamping on your face?

      Give me a fucking timetable asshole, how fucking long am I going to have to wait?

    3. Re:Idiot spin by ath1901 · · Score: 1

      The problem with the FB petition system is that it is open to everyone ... As long as you force a threshold before any petition can be seen easily, it will be fine.

      No, the problem with Facebook is that it is an echo chamber that is easy to manipulate.

      To manipulate, all you need is just a few people who are willing to create and maintain multiple "credible" facebook accounts. It doesn't take much to give the appearance of a "community". Once there is a community, it makes it easier for anyone else to just join without critically evaluating the arguments since "all the others" have presumably already done that. Also, facebook doesn't even have Slashdot like moderation (I think) so any troll comments will be seen, no matter how obviously trollish they are. Slashdot moderation isn't perfect but it helps a lot.

      But, you don't even need nefarious intent and fake accounts. Facebook support costs nothing and is cheap and easy to give. Therefore, not too much thought is put behind any supportive decision. Any sound-bitey positive-sounding and well-meaning issue will receive spontaneous likes. A simple but wrong proposal will get more support than a complex but correct one.

      In short, Facebook petitions will be even less relevant than the guy in the subway who asks for a signature to "save the whales". People don't know what they're really signing but will gladly do so if a 5-second glance says it is a good cause. Facebook just makes this much much worse.
       

  8. Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by timholman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously ... I will unfollow anyone who shares one of these idiotic Facebook petitions, the same way I unfollow anyone who insists on sharing every bit of braindead clickbait they see, or who insists on posting nonstop political screeds.

    You can definitely tell that Facebook's engagement metrics are falling, and that Zuckerberg is sweating over it, when "features" like this are pushed into user's faces.

    1. Re:Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by dohzer · · Score: 1

      I feel that having their data exposed to the petition organiser is enough of a punishment. No need to unfriend them. They'll learn... hopefully.

    2. Re:Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will automatically (re)follow the civic leaders with such leadership qualities to create petitions. Mark my words.

    3. Re:Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he isn't sweating. he is already irrevocably filthy rich.
      just a question of how long the shell game can go on.

    4. Re:Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by Octorian · · Score: 1

      I keep feeling like I should do this. Those people seem to have absolutely nothing better to do with their lives than sit on the couch and share outrage-promoting drivel all day long. Slacktavism at its finest, and they think they're actually accomplishing something useful by engaging in it.

      Then again, if you remove those people and everyone else who only does it for 20% of their posts, suddenly the whole feed would feel quite empty.

    5. Re:Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "Seriously ... I will unfollow anyone who shares one of these idiotic Facebook petitions, the same way I unfollow anyone who insists on sharing every bit of braindead clickbait they see"

      If you are able to unfollow anyone, you are already part of the problem.

    6. Re:Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by timholman · · Score: 1

      Then again, if you remove those people and everyone else who only does it for 20% of their posts, suddenly the whole feed would feel quite empty.

      You say that as if it was a bad thing. The fact is, my Facebook feed is quite empty. I only occasionally look at Facebook nowadays. I find that my quality of life has not suffered in the least.

    7. Re:Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might not be interested in the Gleichschaltung, but the Gleichschaltung is interested in you.

  9. More online petitions by Riceballsan · · Score: 2

    We've already got whitehouse petitions, and several hundred activist sight petitions etc.... What have we learned from it? That nobody in power gives a damn about online petitions (probalby any petitions in general). Generally you have to get an insane amount of signatures to get a response... typically that response is "We'll think about it".

    1. Re:More online petitions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Petitions are stupid. Politicians should rightfully ignore the 0.00000001 percent of the population that sign these things.

    2. Re:More online petitions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Judge the cause is one thing... petitions to the government are a CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AMENDMENT I RIGHT. Yes, that's right... petitions are not just a "liberal" cause, they are a US citizen right. Now, politicians can choose to ignore the petitions as you want them to, and maybe they do, but that right to petition the government for a redress of grievances is Constitutionally protected. They who petition the government don't have to use Change.org nor Facebook, but even if the White House doesn't provide an online means to petition the government, they can still do it using written means as has been done in the past (e.g., a necessary majority of validated signatures to submit the petition).

  10. I'm starting a petition to close Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "We the undersigned hereby partition Lord Zuckerberg to close Facebook and stop selling us to the NSA and ad companies."

    Who's with me on this? ... Oh wait, this won't work, I need a Facebook account for that.

  11. Not on by bigtreeman · · Score: 1

    Not on Facebook
    split up Facebook

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  12. Facebook is a dog's breakfast of features. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like polls. Polls are cool. Unless you have a Facebook Page. Then you are restricted to only 2 poll options.

  13. Has a petition ever acheived anything? by Ashthon · · Score: 2

    I'm struggling to think of a single occasion where a petition has achieved what it set out to. In almost all cases they are simply ignored since there's absolutely no reason for anyone to pay attention to them.

    There are far better means of making people listen. If you want to petition a company, you stop buying their product. If you want to petition a politician, you stop voting for them until they start paying attention. If you want to petition a politician and you're a large company or well funded non-profit organisation, you bribe them, but you call it a campaign donation to legitimise your corruption.

    The only purpose of a petition is to allow people to feel good about themselves while achieving precisely nothing.

    1. Re:Has a petition ever acheived anything? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm struggling to think of a single occasion where a petition has achieved what it set out to.

      Well, there's this, which got a lot of media attention at the time:
      https://people.com/celebrity/small-town-teen-gets-gatorade-and-powerade-to-drop-ingredient/

  14. Has a false opine ever acheived anything? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have no idea what you're blathering about. Petitions become ballot measures become law all the time. Why would you advertise how little you know about this without researching it?

    "The only purpose of a Ashthon opining about something he knows nothing about is to allow Ashthon to feel good about themselves while achieving precisely nothing." - FTFY

    1. Re:Has a false opine ever acheived anything? by ScentCone · · Score: 2

      You have no idea what you're blathering about. Petitions become ballot measures become law all the time. Why would you advertise how little you know about this without researching it?

      Is it physically painful to be so obtuse? Which part of your brain is damaged to the point where you can't include the contemplation of any sort of context when cranking out your juvenile response?

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  15. what the everluvin fuck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is the exact opposite of what social media needs... fuck us.

  16. Slashdot needs to ban APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The parent was posted by Alexander Peter Kowalski. He's obsessed with spamming Slashdot. And now it's time for Slashdot to put an end to this antisemitic spam.

    So here's the deal... I'll be reporting each if there posts to Slashdot. If they aren't deleted within 12 hours, I'm going to take a screenshot and email it to every advertiser on the page. I'll let them know their ads are being displayed along with antisemitic hate speech. I'll also post about each instance of this on social media, so the public knows the advertisers are condoning hate speech.

    Slashdot has two options:

    1) Eliminate this hate speech.

    2) Lose your ad revenue because advertisers don't want their products promoted alongside hate speech.

    1. Re:Slashdot needs to ban APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey JEW why are you so RACIST saying you can rob us, enslave us, and rape little girls? I guess that's ok right?? You fucking JUDEN PIG!

    2. Re:Slashdot needs to ban APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It must be the truth or you wouldn't try to blackmail this website over it and apparently you cannot get the best of facts it extolls about you jew.

    3. Re:Slashdot needs to ban APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obvious APK must have played you on slashdot today and you are trying to frame him but blackmail of slashdot jew? Come on.

  17. WITNESS A JUDEN BLACMAIL THREAT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blackmailing slashdot Jew? Figures. You fear facts about you. I don't see proof of it being APK. I see you can't prove anything in it incorrect though you snivelling disgusting JEW RACIST!

  18. Re:The Anti-JUDEN petition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet snivelling JEW blackmailing slashdot against facts he can't beat will do it again like here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ?

  19. I give it about 5 seconds by Orleron · · Score: 3, Funny

    Get your popcorn, folks. This is going to be a sh*tshow of epic proportions.

    1. Re:I give it about 5 seconds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook could fuck up popcorn. Online petition portals exist.

  20. Community Action: rename Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I propose we Facebook be renamed "Facey McBookpants"

    Failing that, better privacy rules, stronger vetting of fake accounts, maybe turn it orange, whatever.

  21. See why the USA IS NOT a democracy? by p51d007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Mob rule, that's all this garbage is. Retweets, likes, thumbs up whatever you want to call it. It's all based on EMOTIONS, not facts.

  22. The Anti-JUDEN petition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):

    1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

    2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

    3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

    14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

    15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

    16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."

    17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

    18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

    19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

    20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."

    21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen H

  23. Oh sh**. My first petition : by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My first petition will be a petition to not make petitions on failbook.

  24. A number of problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... provide vocal interest groups a bully pulpit ...

    Giving the people a voice, has a number of problems:
      - "This isn't the government I voted for, I'll attack it with guns"
      - Fake news channels (eg. 'Info Wars') labeling activists as prostitutes, communists, propagandists.
      - A non-militant channel (eg. BLM, #MeToo) being hijacked by political activists (eg. Trump for 2020).
      - The online channel filled with fake news (See Facebook) to generate advert revenue.
      - People feeling victimized by fake news and responding with violence (eg. Anti-fa in Charlottesville).
      - Militant channels demanding "You're with me or you're a pedophile/communist/terrorist".
      - Moneyed interests (eg. corporations) proclaiming "This is not the time to discuss ...".

  25. Re:The Anti-JUDEN petition by novakyu · · Score: 1

    They are probably downmodding it because they recognize the poor copy-and-paste job (what's with the repeat paragraphs?): https://pastebin.com/aqA2kf5A

  26. The Best Petition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The best petition would be to completely dismantle Facebook. Facebook has done more damage to democracies than most terrorist attacks. Facebook should be treated like the anti-democratic organization it is. Facebook's executives should be held accountable (i.e. trials and prison time) for the damage they have caused.

  27. we already knows what will happen by sad_ · · Score: 1

    "Every tool it designs for positive expression and connectivity can be subverted for polarization and misinformation."

    this is true for any tool, doesn't matter that it is facebook related.

    "The question is whether Facebook puts in the forethought and aftercare to safeguard its new tools with proper policy and moderation."

    we also already know the answer to this; no, they don't care about our privacy or ethics in general.

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  28. Re:The Anti-JUDEN petition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are probably downmodding it because they recognize the poor copy-and-paste job (what's with the repeat paragraphs?): https://pastebin.com/aqA2kf5A

    It's a real shame that the Jews didn't do 9/11. Still the KSA is the 2nd best choice for topical humour value. I can't even begin to describe the joy I experience when I watch re-runs and see bewildered little cunts like novakyu getting exploded out of windows.

    Jesus will be utterly forgotten in a thousand years time, but Osama Bin Laden will be a hero as long as humanity exists.

  29. An Excellent New Feature! by Pyramid · · Score: 2

    So long as it's use to:

    Petition Facebook to reveal who it has sold users data to.
    Petition Facebook to give the user control over what data is collected
    Petition Facebook to be far more transparent about its moderation
    Petition Facebook to take community feedback about it's standards
    Petition Facebook to promote free speech...

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  30. Oh GREAT!! by Shotgun · · Score: 1

    The denizens of "Selfie Land" are going to band together to create petitions. What could possibly go wrong there? After all, are they not the smartest, brightest, and most engaged people we have?

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    Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
    Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
    1. Re:Oh GREAT!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its simple, Zuck will sell votes to the highest bidder or at a flat fee. Selfie land will then think its real people.

    2. Re: Oh GREAT!! by mimi210 · · Score: 1

      The worse being when governments or NGOs start using it for their own communication, pushing the citizens into thinking that giving up on any kind of privacy is something normal...

  31. Will they add a go fuck yourself, Facebook feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, wait... they don't have to... Facebook can ALREADY go fuck itself. This means Facebook is feature-complete, as far as I'm concerned. The entire site is garbage, and if/when it finally goes away, nothing of value will have been lost. Fuck Facebook forever and ever.

  32. Not just Facebook by McFortner · · Score: 1

    No, the problem with Facebook is that it is an echo chamber that is easy to manipulate.

    That's the problem with ALL online social sites, Slashdot included. All sides of the political spectrum start using it to push an agenda and as time goes on they tend to drift to the extremes on both sides. I hate to say this, but I'm seeing that happen here lately.

    Welcome to 2019 and the dawning of the Era of Groupthink. You will enjoy your stay, whether you like it or not. The Masses will make sure if it.

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