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Facebook Launches a Petition Feature (techcrunch.com)

Tomorrow Facebook will encounter a slew of fresh complexities with the launch of Community Actions, its News Feed petition feature. From a report: Community Actions could unite neighbors to request change from their local and national elected officials and government agencies. But it could also provide vocal interest groups a bully pulpit from which to pressure politicians and bureaucrats with their fringe agendas. Community Actions embodies the central challenge facing Facebook. Every tool it designs for positive expression and connectivity can be subverted for polarization and misinformation. Facebook's membership has swelled into such a ripe target for exploitation that it draws out the worst of humanity. You can imagine misuses like "Crack down on [minority group]" that are offensive or even dangerous but some see as legitimate. The question is whether Facebook puts in the forethought and aftercare to safeguard its new tools with proper policy and moderation. Otherwise each new feature is another liability.

Community Actions start to roll out to the US tomorrow after several weeks of testing in a couple of markets. Users can add a title, description, and image to their Community Action, and tag relevant government agencies and officials who'll be notified. The goal is to make the Community Action go viral and get people to hit the "Support" button. Community Actions have their own discussion feed where people can leave comments, create fundraisers, and organize Facebook Events or Call Your Rep campaigns. Facebook displays the numbers of supporters behind a Community Action, but you'll only be able to see the names of those you're friends with or that are Pages or public figures.

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  1. Automatic integration from fake-news... by fbobraga · · Score: 2

    ... to creating petitions to promote them!

    1. Re:Automatic integration from fake-news... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Can I haz petition for cheeseburger, and privacy?

    2. Re: Automatic integration from fake-news... by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      Cheeseburguer? Fake-news!!!111!!!1!1!!

    3. Re: Automatic integration from fake-news... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I can haz cheeseburder and freedom fries?

  2. Can we petition to end facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Because that would be it’s most useful feature

    1. Re:Can we petition to end facebook by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      I would settle for Zuck being strung up by the balls, if he still has his. Some cucks don't.

    2. Re:Can we petition to end facebook by uulbri · · Score: 1

      :+1 I would really like to see this pseudo-social networks madness to end but I'm not really optimistic.

      You want to share things ? There are privacy friendly alternatives. You want to petition ? There are privacy friendly alternatives. You want to organize events ? There are privacy friendly alternatives. Actually there are privacy friendly alternatives for everything (I say alternatives but most of the times the pseudo-social networks didn't invent anything, and the so-called alternatives are the original...).

      Only the infinite laziness of the users lead to the existence of monstrosities like FB. The worse being when governments or NGOs start using it for their own communication, pushing the citizens into thinking that giving up on any kind of privacy is something normal...

  3. Idiot spin by TimothyHollins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Community Actions could unite neighbors to request change from their local and national elected officials and government agencies. But it could also provide vocal interest groups a bully pulpit from which to pressure politicians and bureaucrats with their fringe agendas. Community Actions embodies the central challenge facing Facebook. Every tool it designs for positive expression and connectivity can be subverted for polarization and misinformation. Facebook's membership has swelled into such a ripe target for exploitation that it draws out the worst of humanity. You can imagine misuses like "Crack down on [minority group]" that are offensive or even dangerous but some see as legitimate. The question is whether Facebook puts in the forethought and aftercare to safeguard its new tools with proper policy and moderation. Otherwise each new feature is another liability.

    I see this again and again from the mentally stunted. Yes, a petition can be launched to spread awareness of animal torture. A petition can also be launched to inspire more animal torture. That is not subversion! It is the same damn thing, but with the moral values inverted! What we in the west consider great moral virtues may be considered absolutely haram in the middle-east. The same thing happens within a country, where some people vote right and some people vote left. Don't pretend like it's some sort of nefarious scheme to voice your (quite possibly retarded) opinion just because other's don't share it.

    The problem with the FB petition system is that it is open to everyone, which means that it's open to even the smallest groups within society, the extremists. As long as you force a threshold before any petition can be seen easily, it will be fine. Dumb petitions that relate to American Idol will still be viral, but extremist stuff will be kept to a minimum. That will make the system bland admittedly, but it will work for real issues.

    1. Re:Idiot spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And here we see tyranny by majority in action.

    2. Re:Idiot spin by ath1901 · · Score: 1

      The problem with the FB petition system is that it is open to everyone ... As long as you force a threshold before any petition can be seen easily, it will be fine.

      No, the problem with Facebook is that it is an echo chamber that is easy to manipulate.

      To manipulate, all you need is just a few people who are willing to create and maintain multiple "credible" facebook accounts. It doesn't take much to give the appearance of a "community". Once there is a community, it makes it easier for anyone else to just join without critically evaluating the arguments since "all the others" have presumably already done that. Also, facebook doesn't even have Slashdot like moderation (I think) so any troll comments will be seen, no matter how obviously trollish they are. Slashdot moderation isn't perfect but it helps a lot.

      But, you don't even need nefarious intent and fake accounts. Facebook support costs nothing and is cheap and easy to give. Therefore, not too much thought is put behind any supportive decision. Any sound-bitey positive-sounding and well-meaning issue will receive spontaneous likes. A simple but wrong proposal will get more support than a complex but correct one.

      In short, Facebook petitions will be even less relevant than the guy in the subway who asks for a signature to "save the whales". People don't know what they're really signing but will gladly do so if a 5-second glance says it is a good cause. Facebook just makes this much much worse.
       

  4. Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by timholman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously ... I will unfollow anyone who shares one of these idiotic Facebook petitions, the same way I unfollow anyone who insists on sharing every bit of braindead clickbait they see, or who insists on posting nonstop political screeds.

    You can definitely tell that Facebook's engagement metrics are falling, and that Zuckerberg is sweating over it, when "features" like this are pushed into user's faces.

    1. Re:Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by dohzer · · Score: 1

      I feel that having their data exposed to the petition organiser is enough of a punishment. No need to unfriend them. They'll learn... hopefully.

    2. Re:Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by Octorian · · Score: 1

      I keep feeling like I should do this. Those people seem to have absolutely nothing better to do with their lives than sit on the couch and share outrage-promoting drivel all day long. Slacktavism at its finest, and they think they're actually accomplishing something useful by engaging in it.

      Then again, if you remove those people and everyone else who only does it for 20% of their posts, suddenly the whole feed would feel quite empty.

    3. Re:Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "Seriously ... I will unfollow anyone who shares one of these idiotic Facebook petitions, the same way I unfollow anyone who insists on sharing every bit of braindead clickbait they see"

      If you are able to unfollow anyone, you are already part of the problem.

    4. Re:Sure, go right ahead and share that petition by timholman · · Score: 1

      Then again, if you remove those people and everyone else who only does it for 20% of their posts, suddenly the whole feed would feel quite empty.

      You say that as if it was a bad thing. The fact is, my Facebook feed is quite empty. I only occasionally look at Facebook nowadays. I find that my quality of life has not suffered in the least.

  5. More online petitions by Riceballsan · · Score: 2

    We've already got whitehouse petitions, and several hundred activist sight petitions etc.... What have we learned from it? That nobody in power gives a damn about online petitions (probalby any petitions in general). Generally you have to get an insane amount of signatures to get a response... typically that response is "We'll think about it".

  6. Not on by bigtreeman · · Score: 1

    Not on Facebook
    split up Facebook

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  7. Has a petition ever acheived anything? by Ashthon · · Score: 2

    I'm struggling to think of a single occasion where a petition has achieved what it set out to. In almost all cases they are simply ignored since there's absolutely no reason for anyone to pay attention to them.

    There are far better means of making people listen. If you want to petition a company, you stop buying their product. If you want to petition a politician, you stop voting for them until they start paying attention. If you want to petition a politician and you're a large company or well funded non-profit organisation, you bribe them, but you call it a campaign donation to legitimise your corruption.

    The only purpose of a petition is to allow people to feel good about themselves while achieving precisely nothing.

  8. I give it about 5 seconds by Orleron · · Score: 3, Funny

    Get your popcorn, folks. This is going to be a sh*tshow of epic proportions.

  9. See why the USA IS NOT a democracy? by p51d007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Mob rule, that's all this garbage is. Retweets, likes, thumbs up whatever you want to call it. It's all based on EMOTIONS, not facts.

  10. Re:The Anti-JUDEN petition by novakyu · · Score: 1

    They are probably downmodding it because they recognize the poor copy-and-paste job (what's with the repeat paragraphs?): https://pastebin.com/aqA2kf5A

  11. we already knows what will happen by sad_ · · Score: 1

    "Every tool it designs for positive expression and connectivity can be subverted for polarization and misinformation."

    this is true for any tool, doesn't matter that it is facebook related.

    "The question is whether Facebook puts in the forethought and aftercare to safeguard its new tools with proper policy and moderation."

    we also already know the answer to this; no, they don't care about our privacy or ethics in general.

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  12. An Excellent New Feature! by Pyramid · · Score: 2

    So long as it's use to:

    Petition Facebook to reveal who it has sold users data to.
    Petition Facebook to give the user control over what data is collected
    Petition Facebook to be far more transparent about its moderation
    Petition Facebook to take community feedback about it's standards
    Petition Facebook to promote free speech...

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  13. Re:Has a false opine ever acheived anything? by ScentCone · · Score: 2

    You have no idea what you're blathering about. Petitions become ballot measures become law all the time. Why would you advertise how little you know about this without researching it?

    Is it physically painful to be so obtuse? Which part of your brain is damaged to the point where you can't include the contemplation of any sort of context when cranking out your juvenile response?

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  14. Oh GREAT!! by Shotgun · · Score: 1

    The denizens of "Selfie Land" are going to band together to create petitions. What could possibly go wrong there? After all, are they not the smartest, brightest, and most engaged people we have?

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    1. Re: Oh GREAT!! by mimi210 · · Score: 1

      The worse being when governments or NGOs start using it for their own communication, pushing the citizens into thinking that giving up on any kind of privacy is something normal...

  15. Re:Oh great by mrclevesque · · Score: 1

    "Yet another Facebook feature that will be overrun by Russian bots"

    Why the emphasis on *Russian* bots.

  16. Not just Facebook by McFortner · · Score: 1

    No, the problem with Facebook is that it is an echo chamber that is easy to manipulate.

    That's the problem with ALL online social sites, Slashdot included. All sides of the political spectrum start using it to push an agenda and as time goes on they tend to drift to the extremes on both sides. I hate to say this, but I'm seeing that happen here lately.

    Welcome to 2019 and the dawning of the Era of Groupthink. You will enjoy your stay, whether you like it or not. The Masses will make sure if it.

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  17. Re: Oh great by mimi210 · · Score: 1

    thumbs up whatever you want to call it. It's all based on EMOTIONS, not facts. https://xender.pro/ https://discord.software/ https://omegle.onl/