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Russia Tries To Force Facebook, Twitter To Relocate Servers To Russia (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: The Russian government agency responsible for censorship on the Internet has accused Facebook and Twitter of failing to comply with a law requiring all servers that store personal data to be located in Russia. Roskomnadzor, the Russian censorship agency, "said the social-media networks hadn't submitted any formal and specific plans or submitted an acceptable explanation of when they would meet the country's requirements that all servers used to store Russians' personal data be located in Russia," The Wall Street Journal reported today. Roskomnadzor said it sent letters to Facebook and Twitter on December 17, giving them 30 days to provide "a legally valid response." With the 30 days having passed, the agency said that "Today, Roskomnadzor begins administrative proceedings against both companies." The law went into effect in September 2015, but Russia has had trouble enforcing it. "At the moment, the only tools Russia has to enforce its data rules are fines that typically only come to a few thousand dollars or blocking the offending online services, which is an option fraught with technical difficulties," a Reuters article said today.
According to The Journal, "Facebook and Twitter could be fined for not providing information to the watchdog."
According to The Journal, "Facebook and Twitter could be fined for not providing information to the watchdog."
Russia wants the servers so it can spy better.
There is nothing noble going on here, assuming GDPR is noble.
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"Not to worry, Comrade! Your data perfectly safe with us!"
I see nothing sinister about this at all, not even a little teensy-tiny bit.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Seems like at some point if you want to keep working in some countries you have to do as they say. See: China.
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Nothing will draw more attention because the whole thing is ludicrous. Facebook is in the USA. Unless they open up brick and mortar stores there they don't "do business" in Russia. Their business is in the USA and foregneirs "travel" here. If Russians fly to Florida to go to Disneyworld they are doing business in the USA and if they connect through their ISPs to Facebook's servers in the USA they are, likewise, doing business in the USA.
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It also makes American spying more difficult. It is entirely reasonable for any country to demand data about it's citizens be kept in that country for audit and the means to force it of course is by targeting all income generated by it and of course to implement custodial sentences for purposeful intent to thwart it. So make it illegal to pay for ads on that service, to copy the USA, as a sanctioned 'FOREIGN' corporation, with intent to thwart income generation activities. Who cares about securing the data to force compliance, it is all about purposefully impact the income generating capabilities in the country enforcing it's laws.
So using a court case to bring down a judgement of income sanctioning activity of the non compliant foreign corporation, copying 'AMERICAN' tactics, in a fashion. With of course, surprise, surprise, surprise, arrests without warning, again mimicking American actions.
Any county should demand that data about it's citizens be stored in country and only in country, this to protect and secure that data and penalise corporations that fail to secure that data or attempt to gain more data than they are legally allowed, especially with regard to minors. Penalising activities should take the form of court ordered sanctions to disrupt the economic activities of the corporation in country and extend to custodial sentences for purposeful intent to thwart those regulations, targeted at the individuals who wilfully acted against the law, local and foreign.
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The US has no law that prevents its citizens from using online services anywhere in the world.
Of course it does. Try using a service from Iran or Cuba. Try using an online gambling site.
No, it is not reasonable for countries to demand that data about citizens reside in some specific country for "audit"
Of course it is. That it's a serious fucking pain to comply with doesn't make it unreasonable, it makes it a cost of doing business in that country.
A Russian citizen sees an advertisement for my product in a magazine. They mail my company an international money order, and we ship them the product. Do I have to have an office space in Russia in which to physically store their name, address and invoice information since I have it written down in a ledger in some other country? How reasonable is that?
Wait, you want to import products into Russia without complying with Russian law? I'd say you're being the unreasonable cunt here.
If Russia cannot compete in this space, and cannot attract users (even within their own country) to services created within Russia, then they pass laws like this to try and get their grimy fingers on at least some of the data.
Or maybe they believe that data residency helps reduce their citizens' exposure to corporate malpractice, as epitomised by companies based in California.
Anyway, nice attempt at spinning this and justifying Russia's lack of rights and privacy abuses against its own citizens.
Russia's misbehaviour towards its own citizens doesn't excuse your attempts to be just as big a cunt towards them.
You forgot a few, such as new competitor services being created that succeed without fucking over the people they're providing service to. Or that little one about people in Europe not being exploited senselessly by mindless corporations prioritising profits over social impacts.
Sure, I've encountered companies selling products I'm interested in buying that refuse to sell to Europe because they don't want to comply with GDPR. Some of them may even behave ethically. I'm willing for them to lose my business if it means everybody else has to fucking behave.
Did you get an extra turnip for dinner for your hard work with bullshit whataboutism, comrade? I like how you even threw in the bit about minors. Comedy fucking gold.