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Is Screen Time Good or Bad? It's Not That Simple (techcrunch.com)

TechCrunch's Devin Coldeway picks apart a new study by Oxford scientists that questions the basis of thousands of papers and analyses with conflicting conclusions on the effect of screen time on well-being. "The researchers claim is that the science doesn't agree because it's bad science," Coldeway writes. "So is screen time good or bad? It's not that simple." From the report: Their concern was that the large data sets and statistical methods employed by researchers looking into the question -- for example, thousands and thousands of survey responses interacting with weeks of tracking data for each respondent -- allowed for anomalies or false positives to be claimed as significant conclusions. It's not that people are doing this on purpose necessarily, only that it's a natural result of the approach many are taking. "Unfortunately," write the researchers in the paper, "the large number of participants in these designs means that small effects are easily publishable and, if positive, garner outsized press and policy attention."

In order to show this, the researchers essentially redid the statistical analysis for several of these large data sets (Orben explains the process here), but instead of only choosing one result to present, they collected all the plausible ones they could find. For example, imagine a study where the app use of a group of kids was tracked, and they were surveyed regularly on a variety of measures. The resulting (fictitious, I hasten to add) paper might say it found kids who use Instagram for more than two hours a day are three times as likely to suffer depressive episodes or suicidal ideations. What the paper doesn't say, and which this new analysis could show, is that the bottom quartile is far more likely to suffer from ADHD, or the top five percent reported feeling they had a strong support network. [...] Ultimately what the Oxford study found was that there is no consistent good or bad effect, and although a very slight negative effect was noted, it was small enough that factors like having a single parent or needing to wear glasses were far more important.
"[T]he study does not conclude that technology has no negative or positive effect; such a broad conclusion would be untenable on its face," Coldeway writes. "The data it rounds up are simply inadequate to the task and technology use is too variable to reduce to a single factor. Its conclusion is that studies so far have in fact bee inconclusive and we need to go back to the drawing board."

43 comments

  1. Trump screen time is bad for his simple presidency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guilty.

  2. Screen time is artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's always quality of content. We never worry about kids having too much book time these days. But novels used to be considered a waste of time, it was time that could be used learning a trade or honing essential skills needed for survival on a homestead. How does some fanciful fantasy help you slaughter a hog or get the harvest out of the ground? And let's not forget evil books have been banned and burned in the not too distant past.

    1. Re:Screen time is artificial by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      We need something to be outraged over. Won't someone think of the children?

      I limit screen time if only to provide them ample knife juggling time.

    2. Re:Screen time is artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's always quality of content. We never worry about kids having too much book time these days. But novels used to be considered a waste of time, it was time that could be used learning a trade or honing essential skills needed for survival on a homestead. How does some fanciful fantasy help you slaughter a hog or get the harvest out of the ground? And let's not forget evil books have been banned and burned in the not too distant past.

      I totally disagree. My son is almost 4 and he gets ABSORBED in video whether it's a show he's watching or he's watching me play games (and I play boring visual games like 4X games) or his kids laptop that plays Thomas the Train alphabet games. His favorite thing to watch? Videos of himself as a baby we took on our phones. Take those things away and it's immediate tantrum obsessiveness, different than if you take away books (which he also can get quite absorbed in) or one of this truck toys. Screens hold a special place occupying his attention regardless of content on them, and needs to be managed accordingly.

      It is risky to make any universal assumptions when it comes to kids, even just something about quality of content. Every kid is different.

    3. Re:Screen time is artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something has changed though that goes below the radar, at least on Slashdot. As a Scouter, the Scouts we now get have much less fine motor skills than 10 years ago. They work much less with the physical world than their book-loving predecessors, and it shows. This is a widely observed phenomenon across scores of Troops that I regularly communicate with.

      Every change has some negatives. I suspect we need more fine motor skills than most of our youth now develop, just for general use of getting through life beyond a screen. This suggests that as they reach adulthood, today's youth will have new struggles and less coping capability in the real world that could have easily been avoided by moderation of screen time.

    4. Re:Screen time is artificial by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      Kids will do stupid stuff. Some kids will lead in doing stuff, others will follow the kids doing stupid stuff.
      We have the Victorian idea of the good child. Who stays out of trouble, because they have their head in a book. Now this idea looks good on a Norman Rockwell painting, but even the heavy reader kid, will put down the book and get into trouble.

      We blamed Comic Books, Television, Video Games... Something new every generation for the fact that these kids are not being model citizens, happily going to school every day, getting A+ on all the their school work, going home happy, have a dinner with their family and discuss the issues of the day, then do their homework and go to bed early and wake up the next morning wide awake and ready to start a new day.

      Kids are curious about the world, and what their peers are doing, and seeing how they stand up against them. This means they will get into trouble. We see kids now instead of vegging out in front of the TV (watching TV, or playing Video Games) we see them in front of their phone, chatting with other people.

      Kids are not going out to play, because society won't let them.

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  3. "Screen"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Screen" is irrelevant. "Screen" is the same as "paper". The only thing that matters is WHAT ARE YOU DOING.

    1. Re: "Screen"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh? One medium features static imagery unchanging (or at least a slow change of whole image when turning pAge), the other features continuously moving images and sound which directly irradiate a light source into your eyes

      What the effect is will be hard to define or quantify but yes, sorry, there is a world of fucking difference between paper and screen (as defined here)

  4. No shit Sherlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've spent the majority of my time in the last 23 years sitting in front of a computer screen and given the fact that I now have a developer job that pays me well enough to live in relative luxury, it surely seems that my screen time was very good. I know people who didn't spend all that time in front of computers and aren't doing nearly as well as I am.

    But then again in my country we have a lot of politicians who don't have any computer literacy (even presidents who never made it to high school) who makes millions in a year so for them no screen time didn't end all that badly.

    Who would have guessed it's not all black and white. As a matter of fact, screens have had color since CGA in the early '80s.

    1. Re: No shit Sherlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is also a difference between screentime and screentime.

      Using cheatengine to make your tires in GTA unflattenable isn't the same as looking though all posts on hotornot.
      Building redstone circuits in Minecraft isn't the same as trying to climb ranks in Overwatch.

      Unfortunately parents seldom know the difference and can not tell the difference from what is good screentime and bad screentime.

      There is nothing that told them that cheating in violent computer games could teach them how computer works.

    2. Re: No shit Sherlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much of your screen time features inactive imagery, text, static display of information you are actively working with and how much is rapidly changing video and audio where youâ(TM)re not actively focusing on the content for a specific purpose?

  5. Screen time has other effects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We do have a lot of devices we stare at these days which makes us more stationary and less active. We now depend on screens for work, entertainment, and social connections. How many times have we seen people out with other people and they are staring at their smartphones? It does appear we are prioritizing screens in a bad way which affects us negatively socially, along with our work ethic, our ability to be active and healthy.

  6. sunscreen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it is very simple

    yoda tells us that...

    sunscreen good, no sunscreen bad...

  7. Re: Libtards at Oxford say Correlation Implies Cau by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They also think CBS "news" is real.

  8. Makes sense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you calculate 1000 arbitrary correlations, you can expect a random 10 results to be significant to p1%. Let people publish only the interesting ones, and you get a flawed picture. This is why we need verification studies; such wide-sweeping big data analyses are good for picking up interesting questions, but for statistical reasons, you shouldn't necessarily trust the answer.

    1. Re:Makes sense. by jouassou · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is also what funnel plots are for.

  9. too much is always bad by sad_ · · Score: 0

    too much screen time is bad, the question is what is too much?
    that amount will differ between people as well.
    as always it boils down to a healty balance; if the only thing you know and have is a screen, that's not a good situation.

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    1. Re:too much is always bad by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

      too much screen time is bad, the question is what is too much?

      We can replace "screen time" with basically anything at all, and it'll still be true. Try it sometime...

      Too much sleep is bad, the question is what is too much?

      Too much reading is bad, the question is what is too much?

      Too much outdoor time is bad, the question is what is too much?

      Too much thinking is bad, the question is what is too much?

      See how that works?

      Let's try a novel notion. Let parents raise their kids, and only interfere when it becomes clear that their kids are a danger to others, or are in danger themselves.

      And by "danger", I don't mean "not like the other kids", I mean the imminent death or loss of important body parts type of danger....

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  10. Quality screen time vs not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, are you going to watch Nyan Cat, badgerbadgerbadger, and imgur or are you going to watch Minute Physics, EEVBlog, and Khan Academy?

  11. Every parent knows the answer to this question by tonymercmobily · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being a parent gives you a pretty immediate answer to this question.
    Some children are fine. Some children are not.
    I have two children. My eldest (6) gets totally thoroughly addicted to video. As soon as he has a little bit, he just wants to watch more and more and more. My youngest one (4) will watch a little, get bored, play outside, maybe go back to it. This has always been true, ever since they were 1.
    My eldest one will keep watching forgetting all about eating, peeing, or whatever. All those needs will literally jump at him at the same time, and he will routinely enter a major destructive tantrum when the video is stopped.
    As a parent, I had to go for a video-free life. They are allowed very very little video on week ends, but that's it. Any more than that and my 6 year old will just. Go. Nuts. Asking for it every moment of the week.
    I let them play VR (I have a Rift and a Vive), which has proven to be non-addictive (again, not scientific, just my experience with them). But, it'snot clear whether it's good or bad for the eyes...

    1. Re:Every parent knows the answer to this question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a parent, I had to go for a video-free life. They are allowed very very little video on week ends, but that's it. Any more than that and my 6 year old will just. Go. Nuts. Asking for it every moment of the week.

      I was the same with cocaine. I had to get rid of the stuff out of my life completely. Just a very few lines on weekends, but that's it.

    2. Re:Every parent knows the answer to this question by darronb · · Score: 1

      Our 6 year old is maybe similar to yours. He watches videos & plays roblox way more than you'd think he should be allowed to. He shows some addictive behavior (it seems like it's all he wants to do, occasional tantrums when he has to stop, talking about it all the time).

      However... he's two years ahead of his peers in reading and possibly 3 in math. We try to direct his videos to "learning videos", which is at least somewhat successful (maybe 30% learning videos?).

      The big thing for me is that he seems to be just fine at school and after-school activities ... it's just a free time thing (which he has a lot of currently). We're not getting any feedback that he's developing any issues... in fact he's generally doing great at school.

      He doesn't play as much as I'd like with kids his age... but he does play with kids a couple years older. He has much more in common with the 8-9 year old age group than his own 6.

      I've tried to remove most of the ways for him to launch an actual browser on his computer, so he can mostly only use that for roblox or minecraft. He uses his iPad for videos, so that it can be limited to Youtube Kids (not perfect, but better than the alternatives).

      Maybe once a month he'll throw a big tantrum or cry when he has to get off the iPad... and if he can't get it under control we'll force a couple days break from it. He does fine on the break, and fine afterward.

      So... I'm noticing some potential issues, but so far it really appears the benefits are outweighing the negatives.

  12. Re: Trump screen time is bad for his simple presid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess it all depends on what is in the screen

  13. Lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the summary:

    studies so far have in fact bee inconclusive

    In the article:

    studies so far have in fact been inconclusive

    I mean how stupid do you have to be that you decided to retype an entire paragraph rather than copy-paste?

    1. Re:Lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  14. Re: Trump screen time is bad for his simple presid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Screen time my ass when its done as an 8 hour job every day nobody gives a fuck this is nanny state and the stupid steeple asking questions that make absolutely no sense. Its like trying to find out if there is a detrimental effect of going to the movies more than twice a year. This is not science

  15. Screen time by Minupla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I also contend that the phrase 'screen time' is poorly chosen. I prefer to differentiate between what she's doing with the screen. I count coding differently then watching Youtube vids, Minecraft different from reading a book on Overdrive, etc.

    There's.a whole lot of nuance that tends to get lost. Also depends on the kid. Mine is fit and active (unlike her old man) so that feeds into it too.

    Min

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    1. Re:Screen time by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I was confused at first by what they meant by screen time because it used to mean how much time you are on TV or in a movie.

      My oldest son spent a lot of time on the computer when he was in high school I bought him a C++ book called Game Gurus Guide to C++ or something like that. He made clones of all of his favorite nes games with twists and extra levels and he grew up to be a software developer.

      The middle sons vary one of them has a game addiction another is a musician and basically uses his PC for mixing audio.

      My youngest son spends very little time in front of a screen but loves cars and has to watch how many cars he buys and sells a year in order to avoid needing a dealers license. He buys them and rebuilds them in my garage he just turned 19.

    2. Re:Screen time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it depends a lot on the personality and the activity. If the screen time is mostly wasted on Facebook, Twitter, or watching video after video after video, it is detrimental. Likewise being addicted to Facebook, Twitter, or videos to the extent of ignoring chores or physical needs is detrimental in the extreme! If that same amount of screen time is used more constructively, such as reading and learning useful things, or reading or playing games to relax during leisure time, that would be positive.

      Obviously, some people are more easily addicted to negative activities than others.

  16. For realistic results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We should include the opinions of those brain-dead people using their touchscreens a few seconds before the fatal accident.

  17. Re: Trump screen time is bad for his simple presi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where does nanny state come into the picture?
    Blaming your kids problems on screen time is something parents do without the help of the government.
     

  18. The real conclusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of these studies give inconsistent answers because of the one real conclusion: every kid is different and there is no single formula that replaces being a parent. Know your kid and adjust accordingly. If you parent according to the studies you'll just raise a neurotic, confused child.

    We don't do much screen time with my son; often a half-hour show of some sort of low-key children's show before bed. But I can't go too long with him, because he gets very focused and has a hard time with transitioning from one activity to the next; screen time for too long means a tantrum that takes an hour to calm down. Other kids I know are not like that, but that's irrelevant. My son is my son, and I will parent him for his needs.

  19. Uh-oh by rmdingler · · Score: 1

    Ultimately what the Oxford study found was that there is no consistent good or bad effect, and although a very slight negative effect was noted, it was small enough that factors like having a single parent or needing to wear glasses were far more important.

    Great. Those of us having a single parent and needing to wear glasses may be statistical outliers in the realm of no hope.

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  20. Is water good or bad? by mark_reh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let's see...
    many people drown- bad
    many people die without it- bad
    used in pesticides- bad
    floods cause billions of dollars damage- bad

    great for bathing - good
    great for boiling eggs - good
    used in coffee- good
    rain helps crops grow - good

    Hmmmm. It's hard to say definitively whether water is good or bad.

  21. Betteridge got it right by asylumx · · Score: 1

    The headline is "Is screen time good or bad?" and the answer is "No." The law of questions in headlines is alive and well!

  22. Re: Trump screen time is bad for his simple pres by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Much like progressives, conservatives don't really understand their own talking points. At least his point makes slightly more sense than calling everyone sexist because the office air conditioner was set high enough that some woman needed to wear a light sweater.

  23. it *is* that simple by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

    Unless you're an adolescent or a moron it should be intuitively obvious to the most casual observer that too much of anything isn't good for you. Sheesh, have we raised entire generations of idiots?

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    1. Re: it *is* that simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are called millennials

    2. Re:it *is* that simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, this doesn't really add anything. I think if you try to define "too much" in this context, you'll get: "an amount above which it isn't good for you".

      So you've just said: "an amount above which it isn't good for you, of anything, isn't good for you" - which is a bit of a tautology!

      Or have you a better definition?

    3. Re:it *is* that simple by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

      Or have you a better definition?

      Yes, but I don't think you'd understand it.

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  24. Should be obvious but it's not for some reason by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    'Screen time' is like sugar: sure, you like it, but overall it's bad for you.
    Children should be exposed to this as little as possible. They should be physically moving around, playing with other children, becoming properly socialized, honing their coordination, so on: being kids, basically, not being drones staring at one screen or another.
    Adults should not be walking around all day staring at their phones to the point where they bump into walls and telephone poles and other people and so-on.
    It's tough these days to have any job or career that doesn't involve sitting in front of a computer doing whatever, but when that's done for the day people should spend time with and interact with other people not more screens. Personally I think many of the social problems we have today would be solved by people relating more to other people instead of staring at one screen or another.
    But as stated above: it's like sugar. People like it. It's addictive. Technology companies know this, and like Big Tobacco, tailor their products/services to make them as attractive and addictive as possible, because that means more profits. They couldn't care less what it does to people's lives or our society in general, so long as they make as much money as they possibly can get away with.
    Some people talk about so-called 'AI' being a threat to humanity. I say the 'threats' are much more subtle and literally in people's hands right now.

  25. categorizing "screen time" by Dorianny · · Score: 1
    computers are not "single purpose" devices and can be used many different ways. Without categorizing the type of use the term "screen time" is meanningless.

    Passive video entertainment. For the most part this can be counted as TV time.

    Social media. Like it or not "social media" has become a major part of socializing, especially for young adults.

    active entertainment. Gaming scores higher in my book then TV time, especially creative or problem solving games.

    learning. instructional websites, interest based communities and some youtube channels.

    These are just a few categories of the many possible uses of "screen time"