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US Will Seek Extradition of Huawei CFO From Canada (reuters.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: The U.S. Justice Department said on Tuesday it will pursue the extradition of the chief financial officer of China's Huawei, arrested in Canada in December. The United States has accused Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou of misrepresenting the company's links to a firm that tried to sell equipment to Iran despite U.S. sanctions. The arrest soured relations between Canada and China, with China subsequently detaining two Canadian citizens and sentencing a third to death. The United States must file a formal request for extradition by Jan. 30. Once a formal request is received, a Canadian court has 30 days to determine whether there is enough evidence to support extradition and the Canadian minister of justice must issue a formal order. Canada has not asked the United States to abandon its bid to have Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou extradited, Canada's Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland said in an interview with Bloomberg TV. "We will continue to pursue the extradition of defendant Ms. Meng Wanzhou, and will meet all deadlines set by the U.S./Canada Extradition Treaty," Justice Department spokesman Marc Raimondi said in a statement. "We greatly appreciate Canada's continuing support of our mutual efforts to enforce the rule of law."
Slashdot reader AmiMoJo shares a separate report from the BBC: The chairman of Chinese tech giant Huawei has warned his company could shift away from the U.S. and the U.K. if it continues to face restrictions. Huawei has been under scrutiny by Western governments, which fear its products could be used for spying. Speaking at the World Economic Forum, in Davos, Mr Liang Hua said his firm might transfer technology to countries "where we are welcomed." Huawei makes smartphones but is also a world leader in telecoms infrastructure, in particular the next generation of mobile phone networks, known as 5G.
Slashdot reader AmiMoJo shares a separate report from the BBC: The chairman of Chinese tech giant Huawei has warned his company could shift away from the U.S. and the U.K. if it continues to face restrictions. Huawei has been under scrutiny by Western governments, which fear its products could be used for spying. Speaking at the World Economic Forum, in Davos, Mr Liang Hua said his firm might transfer technology to countries "where we are welcomed." Huawei makes smartphones but is also a world leader in telecoms infrastructure, in particular the next generation of mobile phone networks, known as 5G.
The US president doesn't abide by it, why should anyone else?
This is Trump-style doubling down on your own house of cards, because you can't admid you're a moron, even when everybody can see it and is lauhging at you.
It doesn't even warrant discussion.
It's just "We know Iraq has WMDs." and then dragging it in by the head and shoulders all over again.
Dear Murica... we used to like you. A lot. Can you please just go back to that?
If it's not CIA capturing and torturing people, it's the less shadowy part of their government literally keeping people hostage in exchange for beneficial market policies. This is all about Huawei's growth and increasing market share, nothing else.
The U.S. has no credibility and acts without impunity to get what it wants, and it's time the world stands up against them.
The laws HRC broke pale and are nothing compared to the massive, ongoing, multiple-felony-per-topic Trump frauds and lies to the American people about his dealings with Russia. Trump is a traitor and conspired to defraud Americans.
He will hang. HRC meanwhile sips Chianti and laughs at Trump's flailing as he heads off to the gallows to die. The system works.
After of the extradition, i think that the accused is very rich and could pay a big fine for the American justice: worth several US$ millions.
Huawei leads the world of the mobiles and the American government wants to charge it.
If you mess with a Chinese company and it's executives, you are messing with the CCP and PLA. It's almost as though extradition would be an act of war....
Fuck it, bring it on! Bitch broke the law!
All I can say is feel free to bail the US market and take your (IMHO) crummy servers and network junk with you. I would have a better opinion, but after the complete pogrom on unlocked bootloaders, I lost respect for this company.
Yes, there are a lot of allegations, but where there is smoke, there is fire. Canada isn't a country that buckles to the US unless something is there, and Huawei has had complaints in other areas around the globe as well.
If they only do business in Asia, fine. One less potential security threat I have to worry about.
Disproven like Trump "disproved" that he had multiple business dealings with Russia to the American people, lying to your fat faggot face over and over again, lol? Tell it to the warden faggot, Trump has 20+ open investigations. He's fucked.
You want to get fucked too, I'm sure we can work something out with the inmates at ADX Florence to accommodate your faggot traitor ass as well, Junior.
Don't paint them as some sort of liberal privacy-defending EFF-type company "refusing to play ball" with the NSA lol. They ACTIVELY SPY on their users for the Chinese Communist Party and put tentacles on the ground worldwide.
Huawei's fraudulent ownership of a shell company they refuse to acknowledge despite ironclad evidence is more proof of what arrogant morons they are, even more than thinking you can fly through Canada with a warrant for your arrest.
They deserved to be caught and Meng deserves to be extradited to face charges like any other fraud. That China is railroading Canadian citizens to use as hostages, like Russia with Whelan, it's just more obvious evidence.
This isn't a legitimate business fighting the good fight for consumers and being screwed by the nutty Trump administration, this is a spy tentacle caught walking through an airport like it's nothing. Arrogant ChiCom princess shit.
China's government is a pack of assholes trying to flex and it's going to end badly for them. Trump is incompetent and self-defeating, this has nothing to do with that racist asshole's issues, this is about rule of law.
Lock her up, Trump will be in there soon enough also.
Disproven like Trump "disproved" that he had multiple business dealings with Russia to the American people, lying to your fat faggot face over and over again, lol? Tell it to the warden faggot, Trump has 20+ open investigations. He's fucked.
You want to get fucked too, I'm sure we can work something out with the inmates at ADX Florence to accommodate your faggot traitor ass as well, Junior.
For fuck's sake, just come out of the closet already. You are absolutely FIXATED on homosexual sex. It's all "faggot" this and "faggot" that... What percentage of your day is spent not thinking about gay sex? 2%? 3%?
Don't deny it.. Your actions speak louder than any possible words of denial... Come out, get a husband, drop the rabid anger, and be happy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/individual-1-trump-emerges-as-a-central-subject-of-mueller-probe/2018/11/29/e3968994-f3f7-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mounting-legal-threats-surround-trump-as-nearly-every-organization-he-has-led-is-under-investigation/2018/12/15/4cfb4482-ffbb-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congressional-democrats-lawsuit-alleging-trumps-private-business-is-violating-the-constitution-can-proceed-federal-judge-rules/2018/09/28/0aa3c5dc-bc22-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-files-suit-against-president-trump-alleging-his-charity-engaged-in-illegal-conduct/2018/06/14/c3cbf71e-6fc9-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/manafort-trump-campaign-data-kilimnik.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474726/
A guy that built a $3 billion real estate and hotel empire wanted to build a hotel in Russia and discussed the project with Russian leaders. In many parts of the world, business does not get done unless the leaders of the country or territory get involved.
What's hilarious about this is that the left is surprised that the leaders of international businesses interact with the leaders of other countries.
The left seem to be comprised of child-like people who have no idea how the world actually works.
Can't get concessions from trade talk, threaten to kill the hostage [politico.com] (in Guantanamo prison, perhaps.)
USA a mad terrorist state!
China could suspend the silicon's market with Canada for the next decades.
By example,
1. Huawei won't export their Chinese products to Canada for the next decades.
2. China won't import Canadian products for the next decades.
Can't we just agree that they're both shitheads. Why should we defend any of them?
Soon there will be an extradition hearing. The judge will refuse extradition to the U.S. on the base that Trump's comment about using Ms. Meng Wanzhou as a bargaining chip infers the possibility of interference with the judicial process in the United States, therefore denying her the right to a fair trial.
That's what her lawyers will plead, and the judge will agree with them. Extradition will be denied, and Ms. Meng Wanzhou will go free.
Maybe next time the orange dipship will learn to keep his Putin-cock-sucking mouth shut. But I doubt it.
If the judge has strong evidence Ms. Meng is guilty, wouldn't that override Trump's odd statements? Probable guilt level should be the key factor, not what political leaders say.
Table-ized A.I.
Meng has not broken any Canadian laws so the very fact that Canada is holding her for a US accusation makes it a political decision and not purely legal. Hence what politicians say has a much bigger impact on extradition than on simple legal cases.
e.g. Venezuela has accused the CEOs of many oil companies of sabotaging trade with Venezuela to cause a famine. These CEOs are guilty under Venezuelan laws but Canada is not arresting and sending them over because Extradition is ALL ABOUT POLITICS.
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Huawei is not owned by the Chinese govt. Its owner served in the military so did a bunch of founders of American companies including McDonalds, IBM and AT&T.
Huawei has got research grants from the Chinese equivalent of NSF so has Facebook, Google , Cisco and Apple.
Further there have been no cases of Huawei equipment being used to spy whereas we know for a fact that CISCO backdoors have been used to spy on Angela Merkel.
Given these facts it is pretty clear that the opposition to Huawei equipment is not because the Chinese wll use it to spy and rather that it makes it more difficult for the NSA to spy. They may actually have to earn their Govt. salaries and we know that is anathema to Govt. Servants like the NSA and the CIA. They would much rather use backdoors (which CISCO cannot refuse to put in under US law)
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No, because, whether the judge thinks she is guilty or not doesn't matter. What matters if whether the judge thinks, if the defendant is transferred, whether she will get a fair trial. (She isn't on trial in Canada.) A political leader saying he will interfere with the trial to use the defendant as a bargaining chip proves she cannot have a fair trial. Therefore only a seriously defective judge would allow her to be taken to the USA.
nazi crybaby jpaine is triggered by homosexuality, news at 11. In other news, the retarded Drumpf administration today admitted they colluded with Russia, but so what right? And in sports...
Huawei is CONTROLLED AND OWNED by the Chinese Communist Party, "the Chinese government" you shilling idiot. It's not comparable to America even as heavily invested as the US is, it does not have a controlling interest.
You have no idea what you're blathering about.
The fact that China is taking hostages is pretty strong proof that Rule of Law in Canada is broken and Canada needs to be reminded that Political hostage taking works both ways. Meng is not even accused of breaking any Canadian law and extradition is for crimes which are crimes in both countries. The sanctions she is accused of violating are illegal as they are against the JCPOA a UN treaty and neither Canada nor China has agreed to those sanctions so holding Meng is a purely political decision. The arrest had to be signed off on by the Canadian justice minister as will any extradition so it is a political arrest. China understands when to play nice and when to show countries that political hostage taking both ways.
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Rants by AC are just that rants.
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Canada holds people wanted for legal holds, she violated US law, our partners in Canada detained her. If Chinese are too dumb to know the US and Canada are allied and have extradition treaties, IT SUCKS TO BE YOU MENG.
Yet again the US is applying it's laws to conduct happening on foreign soil. By this principle Saudi Arabia could extradite me. Further politicians could get laws passed in other countries that would be unconstitutional here. How long before a US citizen is extradited to Germany for selling Nazi antiquities.
I don't see how any other free nation would endorse an extradition like this.
When a ChiCom apologist faggot logs in to lie, it's still just a lie. Face it, the party owns Huawei. There's no denying it any more than denying Meng will face trial for Huawei's frauds. You're not changing anything, sorry.
WRONG, the US and Canada have strong extradition treaties AND the evidence is in hand that Huawei committed massive fraud. She's an officer of that company, fair game. Your crybaby act changes nothing Ghoul.
You don't know its from it's, and you're wrong. Huawei does business with the US, they follow US law or they flaunt it like they did with consequences like officers getting arrested and tried for fraud. The system works, crybaby idiot.
Trump's weak threats of interfering mean nothing, he can't interfere any more than he can shut down the Mueller investigation. It LOOKS bad, dumb as hell, but legally he's shown zero ability to affect court outcomes despite all efforts.
You can whine, snivel, cry out, lie, but you will not change the fact that the Chinese Communist Party OWNS AND CONTROLS HUAWEI, and Huawei feeds Chinese intel with their spying operations. Huawei = Chinese govt. spyware.
We know you love ramen and anime and all that shit, this has nothing to do with it. Go catch pokemons, nobody cares. This is about Huawei being caught in frauds, and officers of that company facing trial for it. Period.
Post a video of Trump using the words "bargaining chip" or "pawn" when directly referring to Wanzhou. There isn't one. Journalists made it up. Easy to prove me wrong. Find it. Post a link.
You were played like a puppet on a string.
Look at how well you dance.
Is this "we don't partner with businesses that are active in Iran and you lied to us" or the USA selfishly claiming jurisdiction like it did over the internet, Cuban cigars and New Zealand houses?
The US basically was on the Nazi side and a Nazi country themselves until nearly the very end, when they noticed that not only the French resistance and British bombers were winning, but the Soviets were overrunning Germany.
So they quickly stormed to the front, kicked over the last bucket, and acted like they did it all-anone, so everybody would forget what side they had actually supported.
Then they promplty went on to hire as many Nazi scientists and concentration camp human experiment doctors as they could, renamed their own concentration camps into "black sites", acted like their Ãoebermensch propaganda was " just superhero comics", told everyone how they are the world's saviors,
and went on to wage imperialist wars against literally ALL the countries in one uninterrupted stream since 1945.
That is the hard reality that you US-Americans never get told in your history "education".
Just like North Koreans believe Kim-Yong Il is God, you believe this.
canada is not yet a US state/colony
No, it's not us: it's you. Really, it is.
It must be so ronery to be trolling from your moms basement.
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I just saw my teenagers High school syllabus. There is no Geography subject!!!! And this is one of the best school districts in the country. No wonder Americans think Canada is part of US ;)
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I think the judge would have to do more explain why he thinks she won't get a fair trial in rational terms. Trumps rants aren't relevant because he doesn't control the prosecution or the judicial system she will be tried in. There are laws, procedures and treaties involved as well as the risk of precedent -- it's not a cocktail party where you can simply say "but omg, Trump, it's so unfair". If she can claim the judicial system won't give her a fair trial, couldn't most any extradition defendant in Canada, especially if they're poor or a minority, make the same claim and with better evidence that it is unfair to those people?
I seriously doubt a judge in Canada can get away with simply repudiating the US judicial system as unfair. There's no doubt it has unfair qualities in terms of access for poor people, but that's not what's in question. Trump has had ample opportunities to interfere with the Mueller investigation LEGALLY by pardoning Manafort, et al but hasn't done it, and he has a personal stake in all of these people getting off the hook.
You just want to gargle his balls, you sick pervert!
https://www.reuters.com/articl...
Trump clearly said that he would intervene if he tought this was good for the country. That's the President of the United States, clearly and unambiguously claiming that he would interfere with the judicial process.In any Rule of Law country (which Canada is), it would be more than enough evidence to get any legal case thrown out of court, including cases like murder.
But I'm sure you'll just claim again that Reuters, one of the most well established and professional news organizations on the planet, just made that all up, actually never showed up in the white house, never conducted this interview with the president himself, and just published a completely made-up fake-news to the entire planet, that curiously, Trump himself never denied publicly.
God you rabid, blind, fanatical Trump worshipers are pathetic. Now go ahead, little Trump troll army, hurry-up and burry this post with troll or flamebait downmodding before someone else can read it, just like you did with my OP. For a bunch that keep bitching and whining about the fact that the evil liberals and "SJWs" keep suppressing your viewpoint and things they disagree with, you all seem exceedingly good at it yourselves fucking hypocrits.
"but omg, Trump, it's so unfair".
Sadly, this has been argued in court to injoin vactions of the Federal government.
"Well, it's legal for a president to do that but it's illegal for this president to do it.
I wish I were kidding.
The US wants to bust an exec from a company for violating US law.
I love that. So, next time there's another incident like where Wells Fargo had people creating millions of fake accounts, and charging fees to the people who had no idea what it was, we can JAIL THE CEOs, right? Or another oil spill, we get to JAIL THE CEOs?
This will go over well, once "real" people (i.e., CEOs) think about the impact....