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FBI Arrests Trump Associate Roger Stone Over His Communications With WikiLeaks (nytimes.com)

Roger J. Stone Jr., a longtime informal adviser to President Trump, was charged as part of the special counsel investigation over his communications with WikiLeaks, the organization behind the release of thousands of stolen Democratic emails during the 2016 campaign, in an indictment unsealed Friday. From a report: Mr. Stone was charged with seven counts, including obstruction of an official proceeding, making false statements and witness tampering, according to the special counsel's office. F.B.I. agents arrested Mr. Stone before dawn on Friday at his home in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., and he was expected to appear in a federal courthouse there later in the morning. F.B.I. agents were also seen carting hard drives and other evidence from Mr. Stone's apartment in Harlem.

The indictment is the first in months by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, who is investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election and possible coordination with Trump campaign associates. Citing details in emails and other forms of communications, the indictment suggests Mr. Trump's campaign knew about additional stolen emails before they were released and asked Mr. Stone to find out about them.
Moments ago, Stone was released on a $250,000 bond.

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  1. Nixon tattoo by goombah99 · · Score: 1, Informative

    The freaky detail on this is that Stone has a richard nixon tattoo (not kidding). And he's being indicted for orchestrating a conspiracy to obstruct justice. Fate?

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    1. Re:Nixon tattoo by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, he didn't. Feel free to post all of the numerous public statements made by Mueller if you disagree.

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    2. Re:Nixon tattoo by mewsenews · · Score: 4, Informative

      "I don't give a shit what happens. I want you all to stonewall it, let them plead the Fifth Amendment, cover up or anything else, if it'll save it, save this plan. That's the whole point. We're going to protect our people if we can." -- Nixon, Statement to Haldeman, in tapes ordered released for the trial of Haldeman, Ehrlichman and Mitchell

    3. Re: Nixon tattoo by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Informative

      This indictment doesn't have anything to do with Russia.

      You better read it again, pal.

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  2. Government breakdown: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    1. Re:Government breakdown: by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Informative

      https://www.nytimes.com/intera...
      https://www.cheatsheet.com/cul...

      Spoiler: for the worst lies, Obama raked in 2 per year, Trump was on course for 124 per year (but that only counted his first 10 months in office - it's higher now).

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  3. Re:Absolutely no evidence by DrXym · · Score: 5, Informative

    Except there is evidence right there in the indictment to support the charges. If you bothered to read it that is.

  4. Indictment by amicusNYCL · · Score: 5, Informative

    The indictment is 24 pages long. I'm going through it, but this is part of the introduction (which goes on for 20 pages until the first count). In the indictment, they use the term "Organization 1", which I have replaced with "WikiLeaks".

    1. By in or around May 2016, the Democratic National Committee ("DNC") and the
    Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee ("DCCC") became aware that their computer
    systems had been compromised by unauthorized intrusions and hired a security company
    ("Company 1") to identify the extent of the intrusions.

    2. On or about June 14, 2016, the DNC—through Company 1—publicly announced that it
    had been hacked by Russian government actors.

    3. From in or around July 2016 through in or around November 2016, an organization
    ("WikiLeaks"), which had previously posted documents stolen by others from U.S. persons,
    entities, and the U.S. government, released tens of thousands of documents stolen from the DNC
    and the personal email account of the chairman of the U.S. presidential campaign of Hillary
    Clinton ("Clinton Campaign").
    a. On or about July 22, 2016, WikiLeaks released documents stolen from the
    DNC.
    b. Between on or about October 7, 2016 and on or about November 7, 2016,
    WikiLeaks released approximately 33 tranches of documents that had been
    stolen from the personal email account of the Clinton Campaign chairman, totaling
    over 50,000 stolen documents.

    4. ROGER JASON STONE, JR. was a political consultant who worked for decades in U.S.
    politics and on U.S. political campaigns. STONE was an official on the U.S. presidential campaign
    of Donald J. Trump ("Trump Campaign") until in or around August 2015, and maintained regular
    contact with and publicly supported the Trump Campaign through the 2016 election.

    5. During the summer of 2016, STONE spoke to senior Trump Campaign officials about
    WikiLeaks and information it might have had that would be damaging to the Clinton
    Campaign. STONE was contacted by senior Trump Campaign officials to inquire about future
    releases by WikiLeaks.

    6. By in or around early August 2016, STONE was claiming both publicly and privately to
    have communicated with WikiLeaks. By in or around mid-August 2016, WikiLeaks made
    a public statement denying direct communication with STONE. Thereafter, STONE said that his
    communication with WikiLeaks had occurred through a person STONE described as a "mutual
    friend," "go-between," and "intermediary." STONE also continued to communicate with members
    of the Trump Campaign about WikiLeaks and its intended future releases.

    I'll stop there. So, Russians attack the DNC. WikiLeaks releases stolen DNC documents, presumably obtained from the attackers, Russians. During the time period when WikiLeaks was releasing the DNC documents obtained from the Russians, Stone was talking to Trump's campaign about the leaks, and the Trump campaign contacted Stone and directed him to ask WikiLeaks about future releases. Stone then claimed publicly that he had been communicating with WikiLeaks, before then denying that he had done so. And he continued to communicate with the Trump campaign about what WikiLeaks intended to release in the future.

    So, Russians steal DNC documents, give them to WikiLeaks, and Stone acts as an intermediary between the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks, holder of the documents stolen by Russia, about when those documents are going to be released. Stone was specifically asked by the campaign to communicate with WikiLeaks about the release of documents stolen by Russians. This is where the claims of collusion are starting to coagulate.

    Then, since everyone did everything just fine, and there was No Collusion(tm), this happened:

    7. After the 2016 U.S. presidential election, the U.S. House of Representatives Permanent
    Select Committee on Intellig

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  5. Re:So someone lied about contacting journalists ? by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thought you were making that up, but several journalists are reporting Stone threatened to steal a witnesses therapy dog, and told a witness "Prepare to die"... Trump is surrounded by Don Corleone wanna-bes!

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  6. Re:I find it unsettling by jeff4747 · · Score: 4, Informative

    but when are they going to arrest any Democrat for blatantly lying before Congress about running arms to al-Qaeda and Mexican drug lords

    When they actually do that. Turns out Inforwars isn't the best source of reality.

    (Fast and Furious, btw, was a program started under W's administration. It had strict rules about the guns and following them....until one DEA agent broke all the rules about distributing guns, got caught, and started screaming to certain media outlets to cover his own ass. Difficult to indict a "whistle-blower" and Holder didn't want to try.)

    giving $billions to Iran

    That would be the Reagan administration.

    having the GCHQ spy on the opposing party's candidates

    [Citation Required]. No need have GCHQ do it when there's already a FISA warrant.

    or any of a half dozen other scandals that would have gotten anyone other than America's First Black President impeached

    Yeah, like Pizzagate, right? How'd you guys figure out to cover over the fact that the building doesn't have a basement?

    It turns out, you don't have to actually tell the truth to put a story into the media. Lots of people will believe you are telling the truth when you're lying about, say, birth certificates. And many of a certain set of people will gladly eat up the tabloid reporting, so the tabloids keep doing it.

  7. Re:Aha! by sexconker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Trump can't pardon him until he's actually convicted of something.

    Wrong.