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Windows Media Player Set To Lose a Feature on Windows 7 (onmsft.com)

With Windows 7 reaching its end of life in less than a year, developers are likely to begin retiring features for the operating system. Kicking off the process of retiring features is Microsoft, which is retiring a feature in Windows Media Player, according to updated support documentation on its website. From a report: New metadata for music, TV shows and movies, will not be added to Windows Media Player. This means that additional information such as cover art, directors, actors, and more, will not display on Windows Media Player. This change also affects Windows Media Center on Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1.

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  1. Turn off updates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just turn off updates.

    1. Re:Turn off updates by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 0

      This is a incredibly bad idea, no matter how shit 10 is.
      Or at least, don't tell the users this.

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    2. Re:Turn off updates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      but you can turn off the automatic install of them, and decline to install the one that has this "feature" in it. since it's not 'security' related, it better not be in the monthly 'security only' updates and only in the 'security and quality' rollups... pretty piss-poor comprehension of 'security' or 'quality' either way.

      this is a total shit move on microsoft's part. windows 8.1 has nearly four years left in its lifecycle... especially if windows 10's media player retains the feature...... or are they going to delete the 'legacy' media player outright on it (because their spyshit on 10 shows 'too many' people use it instead of the fucking 'apps')?

    3. Re:Turn off updates by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 5, Informative

      The issue isn't an update that removed features. The issue is Microsoft turning off a cloud server that provides this data to Windows 7/8/8.1 versions of WiMP. You'd need to patch WiMP to get the data from somewhere else if you need it.

    4. Re:Turn off updates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the format is understood, probably wouldn't be too hard to make a static DNS reference and host the data elsewhere. Of course, I somehow doubt that Microsoft would lift a finger to assist. And then you'd have to be weary of Microsoft suddenly deciding to plug this hole in their EOL-inducer with a random "security" update to ol' WiMPly.

    5. Re:Turn off updates by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 2

      More than likely that they want to kill WMP
      Good riddance but what they replace it with will prolly be shitter than WMP.
      Prolly worse than RealPlayer. Who remembers that mess.

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    6. Re:Turn off updates by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One less server tracking your viewing habits?

      Good riddance!

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    7. Re:Turn off updates by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      Nobody asked you. Not all PCs are actual personal computers. Some of them are essentially cogs in a larger apparatus. If a machine has a small proscribed role , there is no need to apply patches unless you find an actual hole that affects your use-case.

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    8. Re:Turn off updates by darkain · · Score: 2

      Automatic updates has absolutely nothing to do with this. The service in question is just that, a service, not a piece of software. Think of it as Microsoft's version of the CDDB database. They're shutting down servers. Any metadata content for your CDs that is already downloaded locally will continue to function just fine locally. Only "new" content, such as attempting to load a new CD into Windows Media Player will fail to obtain the metadata because the metadata database service online is being shut down. These articles are just FUD tactics per usual about the end of days!

    9. Re:Turn off updates by scottrocket · · Score: 2
      Yes, from the article:

      "This change doesn’t affect any major media player functionality such as playback, navigating collections, media streaming, and so forth. Only secondary features that require downloading of new metadata are potentially affected. Windows 10 is not affected. This change is effective immediately."

    10. Re:Turn off updates by KIFulgore · · Score: 1

      Well I'd finally blocked the memory until you reminded me o_O

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    11. Re:Turn off updates by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      New metadata for music, TV shows and movies, will not be added to Windows Media Player.

      Will anyone even notice? I mean, apart from 80-year-olds who don't know that anything exists outside of MSIE, WMP, and Notepad, who actually uses WMP for anything?

    12. Re:Turn off updates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No it isn't. Updates don't protect you from anything and if you think otherwise, then you don't understand computer security.

    13. Re:Turn off updates by unixisc · · Score: 1

      As far as Windows 7 goes, does it even work? I thought support for Windows 7 has already ended.

      Reading the description, it looks like a deliberate downgrade, since Windows Media Player is not the media player of choice on Windows 10: that role has been split b/w Groove and Movies. (A pretty stupid move, since Groove can't play music videos, while Movies can't distinguish b/w movies and video clips I take on the iPhone of the kids.) So there really was no reason to touch WMP: just leave it alone, and let Windows 7 users keep using it.

      While I'm on 10, I'm planning to leave once Microsoft goes Windows 365. Already, I'm on TrueOS for most things, and just use my Windows 10 laptop for things that have to have Windows, like that Cisco Packet Tracer simulator (which I haven't so far figured out how to get on FreeBSD). But other than that, Windows 10 is genuine garbage, unlike most versions upto Windows 7. I might move to a Mac if I can afford it

    14. Re: Turn off updates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Realplayer"

        Goddamn, I remember that abomination of a "player". Can M$ enter the 7th circle of hell to retrive all of the copies that were sent there? I really hope not.

    15. Re:Turn off updates by David_Hart · · Score: 1

      New metadata for music, TV shows and movies, will not be added to Windows Media Player.

      Will anyone even notice? I mean, apart from 80-year-olds who don't know that anything exists outside of MSIE, WMP, and Notepad, who actually uses WMP for anything?

      WMP is the best music management software for automatic playlists. You can create playlists based on the metadata, file location, file name, etc. I have a WMP add-on that allows me to sync my music collection to my iPod classic, including my playlists. However, most people have moved on to streaming instead of buying music, so it makes sense that Microsoft would drop this.

      As for removing the metadata updates, that's annoying but not a big deal for me. Most of that can be entered manually anyway and artwork can be dragged and dropped on to the album.

      But yeah, the flavor of the day is to rent music and movies. When the apocalypse happens, at least I'll have tunes...

  2. When has that ever worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Seriously, when has that ever worked, I've never seen it.
    Plus, why would you enable a spy feature on your own?

  3. Will this affect VLC player? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If not... don't care.

    1. Re: Will this affect VLC player? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes! It will.

      Because VLC will keep working as intended!

  4. Who even uses this by kalpol · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's one of the first thing I reset file associations for. So I don't care about their metadata.

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    1. Re:Who even uses this by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not about using it, it's about getting people used to the concept of "retiring features" such that they accept it instead of talking about how Microsoft is conspiring to cripple the OS like they did with XP and the associated malicious updates that broke critical features at the end. They start with stupid things nobody uses so that when they get to the real stuff they can go "retiring features has been going on publicly for awhile and nobody cared." Call it what it is: "crippling things you don't own which customers paid for in order to force them to pay you again."

    2. Re: Who even uses this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, can you point out when I bought a perpetual online service to look up track data and cover art based on CD ID codes?

      Because that's what they're turning off, not the OS that people actually bought.

    3. Re:Who even uses this by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

      What sort of "malicious updates" broke critical features in XP?

    4. Re:Who even uses this by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      There were updates at the end of life for XP that would make files disappear from explorer (they were still there most of the time, as they would be visible via another machine browsing that machine over the network - but the opposite happened as well,) there were also instances of search functionality stopping outright, computers with all the patches going at about 25-50% of the speed vs a fresh install (with search indexer and such shut off on each,) different nomenclatures required for logins (e.g. DOMAIN\user vs user vs clicking through some buttons on the login screen to get to a domain selection to type a user,) printers which would fail to locate - basically a whole class of "standard user issues" that happened on all machines daily instead of that one incompetent guy's machine every week.

    5. Re:Who even uses this by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      "Who even uses this"

      Interesting question. This is Slashdot where you are asking so are you aware of the concept of "observer bias"? The answer you will get here: no one.

      The real answer: The 100s of millions of people who just use their computer and don't actually mess with any settings at all. I.e. all those Internet Explorer users from the past.

  5. Oh my... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I bet those who use that feature will be miffed. Both of them.

  6. Just #LearnToCode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #LearnToCode and write your own!

    And piss off the NPC "progressives" along the way as a bonus!

    1. Re:Just #LearnToCode by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

      So, what, they can make a shitty web app that will have less features than WMP.

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    2. Re:Just #LearnToCode by Sniper98G · · Score: 1

      #LearnToCode and write your own!

      Careful there, that'll get you banned for hate speech on twitter.

  7. Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by dryriver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, who watches media with Windows Media Player when free players like MPC offer a much superior experience? MPC can even run custom HLSL pixel shaders on GPU, allowing videos to be enhanced in realtime on GPU (e.g. realtime sharpening, upconversion). You can even write your own .hlsl GPU pixel shader, hit CTRL+S, and MPC applies the custom pixel shader to video immediately. Windows Media Player is not capable of any such feats.

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    1. Re: Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft has been pushing out new turds lately. Groove and TV & Movies are installing themselves.

    2. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Carrot007 · · Score: 1

      You appear to spell VLC in a funny way.

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    3. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Informative

      MPC? They dropped it too..

      From the MPC-HC web site...

      "
      v1.7.13 is released and farewell
        July 16, 2017 XhmikosR
      v1.7.13, the latest, and probably the last release of our project

      For quite a few months now, or even years, the number of active developers has been decreasing and has inevitably reached zero. This, unfortunately, means that the project is officially dead and this release would be the last one.

      Unless some people step up that is.

      So, if someone’s willing to really contribute and has C/C++ experience, let me know on IRC or via e-mail.

      Otherwise, all things come to an end and life goes on. It’s been a nice journey and I’m personally pretty overwhelmed having to write this post.

      Thanks to everyone who has contributed in any way all these years; Remember, MPC-HC is an 11-year old project.

      Don’t forget, that our official builds, both the stable and the beta builds, are digitally signed. Be aware of scams and only get the files from our site!

      Also, to report bugs, suggestions and generally provide feedback, use our Trac; reporting anything on social media or in any other place is just pointless, as the developers only follow Trac.

      You can download the new version here. For the complete changes see the changelog.
      "

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    4. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing about MPC-HC is that it has been discontinued since almost two years now, and will only age further...

      PS: I use MPC-HC myself and have no idea what to do when I can no longer use it. VLC is garbage and doesn't even have bookmarks, which is absolutely baffling.

    5. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

      VLC > MPC
      MPC and CCCP were better than VLC at one point, but that time it long past.

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    6. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      MPC-HC is feature complete, stable and bug free as far as I can tell. I'm sure if security issues are found someone will write a patch.

      Lack of updates isn't really an issue. In fact I like that it's not nagging be to update every few weeks. It uses Windows video codes too so any new formats will be supported that way.

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    7. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

      Why would you need bookmarks for a video file?

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    8. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure why people like WinMP. Its interface never grew on me since there was winamp, but today VLC is a given option that everyone mentions since it can play pretty much anything. Tried MPC, but that didn't jive with me either.

      There's a little diamond in the rough I hardly ever see people mention, and that's Zoom Player (after Winamp fell off the radar, I switched to ZP). Its playlist control is amazing and can play just about everything as well, and if it can't then I resort to VLC. ZP has a free version, and paid versions as well, but so far the free version has done what I need.

      Sometimes I feel like the only guy out there who uses Zoom Player. If you haven't heard of it, give it a go, and switch the settings to advanced to see all the goodies it's got.

    9. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by CrashNBrn · · Score: 2

      MPC Black Edition is still active. I don't recall when MPC-BE was originally forked, but had to be at least 5 or 6 years ago.

    10. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would you be no longer able to use it? Your hands and penis fell off?

    11. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      CCCP in was always MPC and ffdshow and later on LAV.

      Ffdshow and LAV are still maintained. MPC-HC is basically feature complete. It will work with updates LAV and ffdshow.

    12. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      > Why would you need bookmarks for a video file?

      The same reason you bookmark anything. You find something interesting and you want to jump to it again. The reasons for doing that in a bit of video is pretty obvious. This kind of feature is even baked into consumer video playback appliances. They're just static bookmarks set by the content creator.

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    13. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can't figure out what a bookmark is for, I'm at a loss for words...

    14. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. VLC still sucks ass. Troll harder.

    15. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VLC is for incel faggots like you. Enjoy!

    16. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The screenshots look good for Zoom Player.

      I go with cross-platform software usually if only because I get peace of mind from running open source stuff.
      So there is VLC for video (I don't care about little technical shortcomings, it still works and the source file quality is the biggest factor). Audacious 3.x as a Winamp clone (without the winamp 2 skin mode) because it's now Qt software and works on Windows.
      On a computer with nothing at all installed, you can even use Firefox as a media player (also .pdf and .png, .jpg, .gif image files). It's not that stupid in fact, you can watch a movie and it works (.mp4 and .webm seem most common these days, at least when dumped from websites and phones rather than torrented). Most relevant audio works in a browser.

      I haven't found how to tell the Windows 10 firewall to block some proprietary freeware - I tried it for one piece of software and it still phones home (to check for updates, but can't know what it does). [workaround : tell W10 to not connect automatically to this and this wifi networks. Thus after boot or log in, Windows defaults to running off-line]

    17. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      jizz shots

    18. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by antdude · · Score: 1

      And the official MPC-HC isn't updated anymore. :(

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    19. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by Daniel+Klugh · · Score: 1

      Huh? My version of MPC-HC is 1.8.4.6.

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    20. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Seriously, who watches media with Windows Media Player when free players like MPC offer a much superior experience?

      You know that the vast majority of computer users couldn't give a crap about the "experience" right? The vast majority will happily use WMP until they find something they can't play. Then they'll use that alternative software until they find something it can't do.

    21. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by SpinyManiac · · Score: 1
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    22. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      It's undead!!

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    23. Re:Everybody On Windows Uses MPC-HC Anyways by aybiss · · Score: 1

      VLC might be OK if they knew how to work vsync and a playlist (yes just the playlist, I'm not holding my breath for any sort of media library).

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  8. What's Windows Media Player... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    Why use something with an acronym of "WiMP" when VLC and other good options exist?

  9. Not sure why this is being retired by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one that thinks there is not a good reason for this? MS is shutting down a service that supplies metadata to Windows Media Player that affects all players on OS older than Windows 10. Why isn't Win10 affected? Surely there isn't anything that should break in metadata that would break the OS. This isn't like when MS turned off the PlaysForSure servers as they deprecated everything with those old systems. This seems to be a forced push to people using older Windows.

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    1. Re:Not sure why this is being retired by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Why isn't Win10 affected?

      I thought Windows 10 didn't include, nor run WMP without some kind of hack. If that's the case, then no Win 10 will not be affected.

    2. Re:Not sure why this is being retired by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

      WMP isn't front and center of Win10 like previous versions Windows but it's still there. You have to set it to be the default player. There are older features that I think that you have to hack like DVD playback.

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  10. Hey look! by MachineShedFred · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's probably the last time Microsoft will officially recognize Windows Media Center as existing.

    But that's ok, because Cable companies will continue to encrypt every channel they legally can while renting you a CableCard, and the only software that you can get to decrypt it? Windows Media Center.

    Legal lock-in for DVR rentals. And the cable companies wonder why we hate them.

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    1. Re:Hey look! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WMP != WMC

    2. Re:Hey look! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      WMP != WMC

      Yes, but TFS says "This change also affects Windows Media Center on Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1" so it's relevant

    3. Re:Hey look! by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Which seems just as good of a reason for Microsoft to do its final update. There were probably a bunch of fixes in the work, just waiting for a release, and now that the product is at end of live, just push them all out. Giving the people who still use it, a little extra life out of it. Especially as Microsoft really isn't pushing a replacement for it.

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    4. Re:Hey look! by gatorMagic · · Score: 2

      I still run a Windows 7 box since I have WMC on it. WMC can record an OTA or cable channel (those that aren't restricted) with my CableCard and then I (or most likely my kids) can watch it anywhere, cell service or not. A partial end run around the cable's DVR monopoly. I'm going to miss it; my Tivo is good but it can't do that. :-(

    5. Re:Hey look! by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      Me too! It's annoying that my cable company insists on using the CopyOnce flag on most of their channels; MythTV has major issues with that and PlexDVR is still very much a 1.0 product.

      I haven't tried it yet, but this looks like the next step for me:
      http://epg123.garyan2.net/
      It costs $25/year for the SchedulesDirect subscription, but that costs far less than renting a DVR from the cable company. If you're like me and intend to keep WMC going for as long as the hardware holds out, it might be worth the look.

    6. Re:Hey look! by G00F · · Score: 1

      Is it just me, or when I see WMC, I think of windows media classic not windows media center...

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    7. Re:Hey look! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still run a Windows 7 box since I have WMC on it. WMC can record an OTA or cable channel (those that aren't restricted) with my CableCard and then I (or most likely my kids) can watch it anywhere, cell service or not. A partial end run around the cable's DVR monopoly. I'm going to miss it; my Tivo is good but it can't do that. :-(

      There are two valid reasons to miss WMC:
      Free guide data and CableCard copy flag.

      Otherwise HDHR to pull streams from OTA/Cable.
      TVHeadend middleware/DVR.
      Kodi front end on TV if you care.

      OTA EPG = free
      Cable EPG = either pay a few dollars for yearly guide subscription or waste your time with grabbers

      Way better experience in every way.

    8. Re:Hey look! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I for one am bummed - I use a Silicon Dust HDHomeRun converter to allow me to record programs off broadcast (OTA) TV. Windows Media Center uses local TV stations' programming schedules, so I can have one PC sleeping most of the time but waking up to record programs I want to see but are at inconvenient times for me. Nova, American Experience, Front Line, that sort of thing. I'm not aware of an alternative that works so well for this particular use case. I just tell it to record, say, Nova, and it figures the time, wakes up, records, goes back to sleep. No more metadata, no more Nova for me.

    9. Re:Hey look! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do the OTA broadcasts you receive include this metadata? This is how it goes here in DVB-T land. The "EPG" is broadcast in some way along the channels, you probably can get it in some way from the Internet but it's there by pressing a button on the TV's remote. Disclaimer I'm not even a Windows Media Center user.

    10. Re:Hey look! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can pay $35 annually for the DVR service from HDHomerun and set it to run on a NAS. I've found this to be a decent replacement for WMC. If you just want to watch PBS shows you could skip the TV signal altogether and watch free on demand at https://www.pbs.org/shows/

    11. Re:Hey look! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do the OTA broadcasts you receive include this metadata? This is how it goes here in DVB-T land. The "EPG" is broadcast in some way along the channels, you probably can get it in some way from the Internet but it's there by pressing a button on the TV's remote. Disclaimer I'm not even a Windows Media Center user.

      At least in the U.S. program guide data is required to be transmitted. Usually only good for 24hrs but that's good enough for populating channel grid and giving DVR heads up to record shows in your auto record list.

      We are OTA only here and use tvheadend with an HDHR. It pulls program guide data OTA and is awesome/free.

  11. Already noticed this in recent months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I primarily continued to occasionally use WMP as a handy CD to MP3 ripper, and had already noticed some albums, old and new, where WMP in Windows 7 simply had no metadata for them. For general media purposes it tends to work okay, with some old 3rd party AVC codecs I installed years ago, better than the non-solutions provided in Windows 10. But I mostly use VLC anyway, and it also works for the odd blu-ray. Windows 10 won't even play a DVD anymore without purchasing an add-on.

  12. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    VLC still exists. I have not used WIMP in freakin' years and have no reason to care if it becomes even more crippled than it already was. Same as Internut Exploiter, who gives a shit about it or Edge for that matter?

  13. Douches by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 2

    This is like a car manufacturer saying "since your car is 10 years old we're going to retire the taillights."

    1. Re:Douches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agree on the Douches part, but in reality this is merely like a car manufacturer saying "since your car is 10 years old we're going to retire the legacy subscription-free OnStar service that it connects to"

    2. Re:Douches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or else: your emission warranty has ended so we no longer will get a catalytic converter for you at any price (thank you Toyota). Making a 10-15 year old car that has a failed cat (not unusual) a piece of unregisterable junk in California (and many other places in the US) if a generic aftermarket cat doesn't work. Otherwise the car is running fine. So donate it to one of those old-car programs, which probably will then replace the cat with a piece of pipe and sell it on into Mexico. Or take the DMV's $1000 and have it crushed.

      As for media players, I've been using VLC for years and haven't found much that it won't play.

    3. Re:Douches by Insanity+Defense · · Score: 1

      Forced obsolescence.

  14. Microsoft is EXTREMELY destructive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "... Microsoft is conspiring to cripple the OS like they did with XP..."

    Microsoft is an extremely destructive and self-destructive company.

  15. Metadata by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never used meta data too much wasted time correcting it. I use the file name instead.

    Tag editing hell.

  16. Picard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Way better off using Picard to attach metadata to content if it doesn't already exist than allow some Microsoft service to fail miserably at it. While nothing of value is being lost in this instance it's very much time to put serious consideration into disabling updates to prevent intentional Microsoft sabotage.

  17. What is this even about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is this article even about? What the heck is an MP3?? Is that some old way to store music files or something?

  18. Hopefully their bad DRM goes away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry you can't burn that MP3 that you recorded yourself because of the name for . . . reasons.

    1. Re:Hopefully their bad DRM goes away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was with .wma files back in the early 2000s on XP. It ripped to DRM'd .wma if you let the default options do their work.
      I even downloaded a DRM'd porn file on P2P, it didn't play. I haven't had to deal with DRM'd media before or since. DVD movies don't really count as DRM. (I believe that even when it did, you could read a bit-for-bit copy)

  19. Missing the point by DarkOx · · Score: 2

    Most of the comments here are really missing the point. The moral of the story is If it needs external services to function YOU DON'T OWN IT. You can never OWN it.

    Even if its OSS you might not be able to own it. At least there you'd have shot anyway at being able to implement some kind of patch to get whatever data it needs from some other source, or be able to obtain enough information to implement your own replacement service and or change where it points replace whatever certificate it requires etc.

    Still we need some consume protections that require disclosing of external service dependencies and/or some rules requiring companies to support/maintain the services their products depend on for some minimum period of time as long as they are going concern.

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    Repeal the 17th Amendment TODAY! Also Please Read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
    1. Re:Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are many generic metadata servers. This is MS, which is shutting own one they have run to support WMP. If WMP settings can't be adjusted to use one of the others (like VLC uses) then it's another case of MS deliberately hamstringing its own software to the detriment of the users. Otherwise, somebody needs to post a tutorial on adjusting WMP & WMC settings to use a non-MS server.

    2. Re:Missing the point by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I don't think anyone was under the delusion that the metadata from the internet was anything they owned. ... Or even cared to own. ... Or would even work if they owned it themselves.

      and/or some rules requiring companies to support/maintain the services their products depend on for some minimum period of time as long as they are going concern.

      Unworkable. Right now you're talking about a completely secondary feature to the primary function of unpopular software which is well outdated and for which a company offered a free update path. Any legislation you pass that offers protection against such an edge case would have dramatic consequences.

      You'll also get no support for this, not while Windows 7 happily boots and those files still play.

  20. Win7 MC is for recording TV only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Win7 MC is for recording TV only. For playback, we use Kodi, VLC, Plex, anything except Windows-whatever.

    We stopped accepting MSFT updates about 3 yrs ago when they changed to license to be anti-privacy. We also blocked all Windows systems from internet access except for schedule data and for Quicken stock updates. We aren't stupid enough to use Windows as a desktop.

    The only, absolutely only, reason we still use 7MC is for the free schedule data. For recording TV, Kodi + HDHR devices easily wins. Heck, if we were tied to Windows (why?), there is NextPVR.

  21. windows 10 coercion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First KB4480970 breaking local networking, not being fixed yet, and not even having its distribution stopped. Now Media Player is being depreciated.

    Is this yet another attempt to force people to switch to Windows 10?

    1. Re:windows 10 coercion by rossdee · · Score: 1

      Speaking of Win 7 and Win 10, when is Microsoft going to bring out a good desktop OS?

      In related news, I see that the forecast for tomorrow night is for Hell freezing over (actual temperature -35f locally and the high for Wednesday -21f )

  22. Alternate future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So does this mean that Windows Media Audio (WMA) will not actually replace MP3, AAC, Ogg Vorbis, and my personal favorite Opus as the de facto standard lossy music compression codec? And does this also mean that Windows Media Video (WMV) will not replace the almost/never-defunct Adobe Flash, Apple Quicktime, and HTML5 for streaming video on the web? Will WMV never replace DVD and later Blu-ray discs on home video players (which themselves also seem to have been largely replaced by streaming services, which likely also do not use WMV codecs)?

    Microsoft's dreams of repeating its desktop operating system near-monopoly with audio and video distribution near-monopolies appear to be officially dead.

  23. This is odd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To me this sounds like an improvement. It surely isnt what i associate with the source of the change.