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Meet the Guy Who Holds the Guinness World Record For Collecting Spreadsheets (fastcompany.com)

harrymcc writes: Ariel Fischman, a financial advisor in Mexico City, has been using spreadsheet software for 30 years. And in recent years he's been collecting it: VisiCalc, 1-2-3, Excel, Quattro, and lesser lights in their once-familiar boxes, in a dizzying array of variants stretching back to the 1970s. Last year, Guinness World Records certified that his collection is without peer. I recently spoke to him about it -- starting with the obvious question -- Why spreadsheets? -- for Fast Company.

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  1. I had to collect them! by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Else they'd have spread!

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  2. Wow by fluffernutter · · Score: 4, Funny

    And I thought stamp collecting was the world's geekiest hobby, we have a new winner!

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    1. Re:Wow by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sadly, he'll have no one to leave this collection to when he passes on... since he's obviously going to die a virgin.

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    2. Re: Wow by Type44Q · · Score: 1
      Geeky is manipulating numbers in interesting ways. Fucking mental is hoarding collections of numbers.

      Impressive, not even slightly.

    3. Re: Wow by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

      Admit it, you're insanely jealous.

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    4. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Do you know about the 1929 US Kansas-Nebraska overprint stamps? It was an experiment to overprint stamps with the name of the respective state to help combat thieves who would steal stamps in one state and sell them in another.

      Or about the various experiments with different adhesive types? You see,

      [fifty minutes of dullness about postage stamps omitted to save the brain cells of the readers]

      so I don't really know why you'd think stamp collecting is "geeky". I just don't see it at all.

    5. Re:Wow by Dusthead+Jr. · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You think spreadsheet software is the geekiest thing you can collect? What about Star Wars memorabilia? Video games and video game consoles. Playboy.

    6. Re: Wow by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Informative

      The person who wrote this article does not know what a spreadsheet is. What he has collected is about 800 copies of various versions of applications that create spreadsheets.

      The person who wrote the article gets it correct once:

      Fischman collects spreadsheet software - boxes full of disks, manuals, and other accoutrements that were standard fare in every office until we started downloading most of our apps.

      It goes downhill from there:

      Why don’t we start with the most obvious question. Why spreadsheets?
      Once one sets out to collect spreadsheets, where does one get them?
      How many spreadsheets do you have?
      Is there such a thing as a valuable spreadsheet?
      VisiCalc, the PC spreadsheet that started it all.

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    7. Re: Wow by Sique · · Score: 1

      Don't know where you got this wisdom from, but the most ardent collectors I know are women.

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    8. Re:Wow by mea2214 · · Score: 1

      Both take up less space than my beer can collection which I can't seem to part with.

    9. Re: Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's numberwang!

    10. Re:Wow by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Nope, you still lose. This spreadsheet software guy is geekier, sorry.

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    11. Re: Wow by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

      Guess you haven't been around all that many women have you? You know, they are also collectors also. Barbie Dolls, various collectable dishes, those stupid dolls from Germany, Disney dolls. Guess you are the one that never gets laid.

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    12. Re:Wow by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      That, and I am sure that the EULA for most of the software forbids transfer of ownership.... ;)

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    13. Re: Wow by LazarusQLong · · Score: 1

      I don't know, Zsa Zsa Gabor used to collect Ex-Husbands... and I don't think she was geeky at all about it...

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    14. Re: Wow by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      Could've been worse. Could've been spreadsheet templates!

    15. Re:Wow by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      All that software, with dozens of different EULAs... it's surprising he can legally even say "good morning" to anyone.

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    16. Re: Wow by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

      lol, best come back I have seen that cuts deep without being rude. Divorced, and no regrets. Beautiful daughter, was worth it. Current gf collects shit also. Least she collects toys like I do. lol

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    17. Re: Wow by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      The US government collects lost causes. You know failed regime change operations, that it is now tied to but can not govern, that eats money and people. No one is a bigger collector than the US, heading into the double digits territory, the forever wars.

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    18. Re: Wow by tigersha · · Score: 1

      Dunno. I collect spices,herbs and any sort of chilli you can imagine. So my wife moans that kitchen is cluttered...BUT i am a very good cook, so she is fine with that. Depends on what you collect.

      And I know a guy who collects antique cars. Sure his missus moans, but she also drives them.

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    19. Re:Wow by umghhh · · Score: 1

      There must be something inherently problematic about computers as any hobby attached to it ends up in parent's cellar as a virgin while people collecting stamps got laid - my father was collecting too so I know. Maybe the amount of time the habit required was not as much as the pr0n/spreadsheets collection?

    20. Re: Wow by arielfischman · · Score: 1

      Have you tried googling hthe author's name? Harry McCracken. Give it a try and you may be convinced he does know what he's talking about.

    21. Re: Wow by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      His article would tend to suggest otherwise. The terminology he is using does not make him sound intelligent.

      Are you the person the article is about? Do you refer to Microsoft Excel as a spreadsheet, or a program (or software)? It's not a spreadsheet, it is an application to produce spreadsheets. Powerpoint is not a slideshow, and Word is not a document. These are all programs, they are software.

      If you understand all of that, and I can't imagine that you wouldn't, then how did the questions that I quoted make it in to the article? Are those the questions he actually asked you, or were they edited for publication?

      I mean, the question "is there such a thing as a valuable spreadsheet" is an absurd question. Every spreadsheet is valuable to whoever created it, right? But that's not what he's asking about, he's asking about whether particular versions of software would be considered highly sought-after for a software collector. Which is a completely different question than asking if a spreadsheet can be valuable.

      This almost sounds like the software equivalent of the old cliche of journalists not knowing that every rifle is not an AK-47, like he's talking to a gun collector (who might not even own an AK-47) and asking questions like "how many AK-47s do you have? Are AK-47s valuable? When did you start collecting AK-47s?"

      I'm sure you get my point.

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  3. He's not collecting spreadsheets by Patent+Lover · · Score: 5, Informative

    He's collecting spreadsheet software.

    1. Re: He's not collecting spreadsheets by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Less insane; even more boring.

    2. Re:He's not collecting spreadsheets by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      He's collecting spreadsheet software.

      Who cares? Ladies, he's single!!

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  4. No mention of GEOS for the 64? by fat+man's+underwear · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bringing a graphical spreadsheet with graphing capability on a 64 was a tour de force. Not mentioned in this article?

    Here's a weird little web page about it

    http://geowriter.blogspot.com/...

    1. Re:No mention of GEOS for the 64? by TomR+teh+Pirate · · Score: 1

      I was thinking along these lines as well. There was Syncalc for the Atari 800 system, and I'm sure many others that don't immediately come to mind. It's actually surprising that neither the Commodore or Atari systems were mentioned at all as they had their own cottage industries of business-like software.

  5. enquiring minds want to know by cellocgw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So, which spreadsheet program does this guy use to organize and manage his collection?

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    1. Re:enquiring minds want to know by rjune · · Score: 5, Funny

      He uses 3" x 5" cards.

    2. Re:enquiring minds want to know by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Probably uses DBase III Plus

    3. Re:enquiring minds want to know by Pascoea · · Score: 2

      MS Access.

    4. Re:enquiring minds want to know by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      vi

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    5. Re:enquiring minds want to know by Known+Nutter · · Score: 1

      Yo dawg, I heard you like spreadsheets, so I tracked your spreadsheets with a spreadsheet you can use to spreadsheet while you spreadsheet.

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    6. Re:enquiring minds want to know by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

      In the article it says he prefers Excel for doing work - so I assume he uses that.

    7. Re:enquiring minds want to know by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      I hope he uses a database. Just for the irony of being the only one who doesn't try to use a spreadsheet as a database.

      Argh! You bring back memories of a former job I had. The upper management at that place all wanted to do everything out of spreadsheets. I offered to write programs for them (these were clearly appable use-cases), but they liked spreadsheets, they had always used spreadsheets, they didn't want to know anything but spreadsheets.

      I ended up writing all sorts of crazy complex add-ins for MS Excel that really should have been separate applications, because I couldn't convince the CEO, CIO, COO, or CMO to give up excel for things it wasn't designed to do. The 2nd tier of management was all for new apps to replace the spreadsheets but those at the top wanted everything built into Excel.

      (naturally, I didn't store they actual data IN Excel- Excel loaded and saved data to a database).

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    8. Re:enquiring minds want to know by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of an atrocity I built for managing purchase orders... Excel, VBA, MySQL. Was written about 10 years ago. Man I hope they killed and buried that thing out in the back yard where it belonged.

    9. Re:enquiring minds want to know by sensei+moreh · · Score: 1

      MS Access was a big improvement over dBase IV for databases, and Lotus 1-2-3 for things that should have been put in a database but were put in a spreadsheet because the person who put them there had no clue about databases.

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  6. Re:Oblg. Hobby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because its tech related. Because a Guinness Book record is interesting in a light-hearted way. Cause the guy could actually speak intelligently about his hobby and tie it to the history of the mundane yet important market of consumer software?

    Exactly how much time does it take for one to ignore a slashdot article?

  7. The Nerdiest Man In The World! by Zorro · · Score: 1

    He doesn't always drink Beer but when he does he drinks Dos Equis!

  8. If suites counted... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    You could then add Lotus Jazz. Underwhelming box, underwhelming product.

    But a retailer in my home town had the ultimate product box in the window for years, fading into violet obscuring - Modern Jazz.

    They got the box for display, but the product never shipped. that's a rare item.

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  9. People collect rocks... by foxalopex · · Score: 1

    People collect rocks, so why not spreadsheets?

  10. You can't do this with modern software. by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

    It's mostly online only. Even if you can find a box with a cd or dvd in it, it probably requires online activation. I still have my games (and other things) from years-gone-by, and if I install them from the distribution disk they still work. How is anyone going to be able to do that with anything released in the past decade or so... modern games are going to be quickly forgotten.

    1. Re:You can't do this with modern software. by Major+Blud · · Score: 1

      How is anyone going to be able to do that with anything released in the past decade or so

      Good Old Games seems to do a pretty good job of it. GOG.com

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    2. Re:You can't do this with modern software. by Major+Blud · · Score: 1

      I was replying to the parent poster about installing games made in the last decayed....not necessarily about trying to claim a Guinnes record about who owns the most.

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  11. I worked with someone like this once by grasshoppa · · Score: 2

    Spreadsheets...everywhere. Of all kinds, doing all kinds of evil. There are still some embedded because no one can figure out how they actually work or what the numbers actually mean, only that they need to compare new numbers against old numbers in one capacity or another.

    I drink a lot.

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  12. I supposed... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    ... someone has to do it.

    1. Re:I supposed... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      ... someone has to do it.

      No. Nobody had to do it. Nobody is harmed by him doing it, but nothing important would have been lost had he chosen not to do it. We still could have read about these older programs (by his own admission he doesn't run most of them, and many are likely inoperable due to the media they are on) and been just as well off. He does comment about how much he loves the documentation; likely the most useful thing he could do then would be to scan the documentation (and maybe the boxes as well) and post the scans somewhere to be seen. A few pictures of his office doesn't do a whole lot.

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    2. Re:I supposed... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

      Wow, you sound even more obsessed than he. :)

  13. Kudos to him by wired_parrot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    for preserving a slice of software history. Not only has he collected a rich historical collection preserving the evolution of spreadsheet software, but from the article he's also interviewed and corresponded with the software pioneers from the field, most of whom are in their 80s and 90s now, preserving their historical testimony. Without him an important part of software history might otherwise have been forgotten. I suspect his collection, and his research into the field, will be an invaluable archive for those interested in computing history. It's a shame that his interest in preserving software history is being met with more mockery than support by the slashdot community.

    1. Re:Kudos to him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      it all started with the headline not being more accurate; had it been worded correctly (this is a *tech* site, after all) and pointed out it was software and not spreadsheets, the crowd in the nosebleed section would have been more forgiving and less mocking (one can only hope).

    2. Re:Kudos to him by gwolf · · Score: 1

      Yes. FTR, I am the one of the two people that "certified" his collection for Guinness. And I know Ariel since we were both kids. When he first told me about this project of his, I just snickered. Until... Well, I started realizing he is really into it, and has nontrivial knowledge (operative, historical, social, even technical) about the evolution of such an important kind of software, instrumental for the universalizaiton of computer use in the office.
      Let me tell you, I spent eight hours counting boxes, finding some absolute gems, determining whether an item was "valid" according to the Guinness rules... And, all in all, I even /enjoyed/ it!
      And, even after knowing the guy for so many years, I was pleasantly surprised by him taking such an interest for this piece of history.

    3. Re: Kudos to him by arielfischman · · Score: 1

      Can you send me picture of this item? I'm the person in the article. Thanks

    4. Re: Kudos to him by arielfischman · · Score: 1

      That's the spirit. But it's OK; not everyone needs to understand. Different strokes for different folks.

  14. Re:Why tho? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

    Clearly he does it to impress the ladies

    The sad thing is, some of them probably get excited when he offers to pivot for them.

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  15. Boxed spreadsheet software by Ecuador · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok, the Guinness World Records have become a bit ridiculous, registering records for some very trivial things, but at least this guy is not collecting "spreadsheets", but boxed spreadsheet software. He has over 500 according to the "strict" record parameters, or 800 otherwise.
    It's still rather trivial of course, when I was a kid (almost 3 decades ago), I had asked for the Guinness Book of records for christmas and enjoyed reading about the tallest man, the fastest animal etc, but the biggest spreadsheet software collection is nothing like that. I mean, you could have thousands of records under the category "biggest xx software collection", or things like "biggest kellogs cerial box collection" etc. Maybe I should also apply, I have the worlds biggest "software written by myself" software collection...

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  16. Re:Ah yes, Another Fast Company article. by Cederic · · Score: 1

    That may just be your specific combination of OS, browser, plugins, network architecture and configuration.

    I had no ads and no issues viewing the web page.

    Now I'm off to see if I can find out the 40+ architectures Multiplan ran on.

  17. How to Avoid Huge Ships by Latent+Heat · · Score: 2

    I concur with you entirely, but I think there is a snicker-and-giggle factor here for this guying specializing in collecting spreadsheet programs.

    John Trimmer self-published the book How to Avoid Huge Ships and every online reference to this rare book is filled with jokes. How do you avoid huge ships? Simple, don't cross their paths, and so on. Trimmer's book, however, was pitched towards the captains or operators of small vessels such as fishing boats and pleasure craft, who indeed give gray hairs to the captains and pilots of tankers and container ships that must traverse the same coastal waters and harbors. Maybe it is like pedestrians and motorists cutting in front of trains, where it doesn't register that a train cannot stop on a dime and neither can one of those huge ships.

    The book tries to explain from the perspective of a former harbor pilot why it is not a good idea for a small boat to cut in front of a huge ship, and this explanation is necessary because I lot of small boat operators do just that. I am not able to get ahold of this book so there may be more to it than that -- maybe a small craft can get sucked into the bow wake of a much bigger ship and Captain Trimmer gives instructions on how to stay clear?

    This collection of spreadsheet programs is a historical treasure, and spreadsheet software is one of the most used apps on small computers. But spreadsheet software is not kewl and computer users who do stuff with spreadsheets instead of writing custom Perl scripts are not leet, hence all of the jokes and people placing this poor man on the autism spectrum.

  18. I once looked upon spreadsheets with scorn by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    There are all kinds of uses for a modern spreadsheet program, even for an engineer -- producing tables and figures for reports, formulating budgets.

    My main use is for quick data visualization. Run a program in Eclipse that generates tab-separated numeric output, paste the numbers into Excel, select columns of data and view the resulting plot. The flexibility of such software saves having to write a GUI for every program that generates engineering data.

    1. Re: I once looked upon spreadsheets with scorn by illiac_1962 · · Score: 1

      Now if you could just find a replacement for Eclipse....cough,Netbeans. Cough, reads Eclipse projects. Cough...and doesn't suck.

  19. Image that media or lose the software! by couchslug · · Score: 1

    Unless he images that software to durable media like archival DVDs it can be lost as the floppies deteriorate. Lose one of a set and you're screwed.

    Back in the proverbial day we used Winimage which is (amazingly) still available. https://www.winimage.com/

    Of course Linux users have other options like dd.

    If you collect old software do yourself a favor and image it immediately so you'll have more than the packaging and a useless floppy in the future.

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  20. Re:Oblg. Hobby by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

    /sarcasm Silly me, I forgot digital hoarding is "news."

  21. Let me guess by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    He made his shopping lists with them for 40 years, like most users.

  22. Re:win by sensei+moreh · · Score: 1

    AceCalc - Franklin's version of VisiCalc for their Ace 100 computer

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  23. Let's encourage him to help us all in freedom. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    Kudos to him for preserving a slice of software history. Not only has he collected a rich historical collection preserving the evolution of spreadsheet software, but from the article he's also interviewed and corresponded with the software pioneers from the field, most of whom are in their 80s and 90s now, preserving their historical testimony. Without him an important part of software history might otherwise have been forgotten. I suspect his collection, and his research into the field, will be an invaluable archive for those interested in computing history.

    And computing today: the people who work on making sure LibreOffice can import old and obscure file formats should encourage him to share his collection with the world by uploading these executables to archive.org so the old programs can be run on emulators. Generating spreadsheet files with old software, doing the reverse engineering on the files, and making LibreOffice better (via the Document Liberation work, I imagine) would help the public and improve free (as in freedom) software at the same time. It would be great to be able to tell someone with, say, old Amiga and old MS-DOS spreadsheet programs that they can load their old files into something modern like LibreOffice Calc or Gnumeric and help them switch to a modern supported operating system that won't be a nuisance to maintain.

    It's a shame that his interest in preserving software history is being met with more mockery than support by the slashdot community.

    A sentiment I've maintained for years; try reading just about any /. story (they virtually all have something to do with software freedom) and see how frequently the audience here supports proprietary software yet they also lament DRM schemes (which are impossible without proprietary software). These posters also have nothing to say when some proprietor uses their unjust power over the user (such as the time a proprietary flight simulator developer installed stored password readers+uploaders on all of their clients computers without the user's knowledge or consent). This is reinforced by the censorship system known as "moderation" which carries multiple ugly biases that stymie reasonable conversation. Fortunately not all /. readers and posters express such ignorance and eschew software freedom.

  24. Re: I once looked upon spreadsheets with scorn by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    What's wrong with Eclipse? OK, OK, it is not yet compatible with OpenJDK 11, but I was able to scrounge up OpenJDK 10?

  25. Too bad by DriveDog · · Score: 1

    Excel keeps adding features, not innovating. Too bad that Lotus didn't promote Improv or get it out sooner. Too bad that their 3D "page" model didn't prevail over Excel's very sloppy asynchronous sheet model. At least we're not still stuck with the ludicrous 64k row sheets that limited Excel for a decade too long. Excel's innovation was the ability to easily get pretty output. Products like Lucid3D and Javelin were the sources of real innovation. Too bad. And I agree with others here: too bad the article's author doesn't know the difference between a spreadsheet and a spreadsheet software application.