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Xbox One Consoles Are Down (mashable.com)

If you are having trouble getting your Xbox One online, you are not alone. Xbox One consoles around the world have stopped working. From a report: Xbox One owners are reporting major problems with their consoles online with displays being stuck on black screens at startup, games not loading, and errors when trying to login to Xbox Live. Microsoft is aware of the situation and has promised to give more information when they have it. Within a couple of hours, the official Xbox Support Twitter account updated everyone, saying that they have identified the problem and are working on fixing it. There is no estimate on how long it will take to fix. Bad week for Microsoft services continues. Update: The issue with Xbox Live appears to have been resolved.

104 comments

  1. Curious... by Narcocide · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just yesterday there was a post asking about what global technical disasters had not yet come to pass, suspiciously like they were plumbing the Slashdot crowd for ideas on how to finish ruining civilization. And now, here we are.

    1. Re:Curious... by zlives · · Score: 3, Insightful

      hmmm online activation of local games being disrupted... idk i would suggest it is restoration of CIV and not ruining.

    2. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Xbox one being down is Narcocide's childish rendition of a "global technical disaster" - you can't make this up, his shit is this feckless.

    3. Re:Curious... by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Even more curious how it was magically fixed moments after my post called it suspicious. And now somehow, anonymous cowards are angry about it. Coincidence? Perhaps not...

    4. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So far this hasn't triggered any rioting in the streets yet. But methinks people who are lost without their XBox One also probably have no idea how to riot.

    5. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [Russian accent] Ey Donnald, woulnt it be funny if your idiot son could not game anymore, *click*

    6. Re:Curious... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Well, shove stuff in the cloud and you expect to have major problems when you can't get to the cloud. What's amazing is that even if you're playing a single-player game on an xbox or playstation that you still must be connected to the internet, and that you must pay a subscription fee in order to get patches or updates. If this was tried on the PC the players would revolt, but on consoles it's treated as "normal". Ie, remember the near universal rejection of Games-For-Windows-Live, but an even more intrusive system is treated as normal on consoles. I used to think perhaps this was due to age differences in the average players, but I see many players in their 50s not caring about this on their consoles.

    7. Re:Curious... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Well, MS messing up is sort of expected. So I would classify that under "Karma" for anybody relying on them.

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  2. Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is exactly what happens when you buy in to a system that depends on online connectivity.

    Fuck that. When I buy a game I want to own the game. You millennials have no idea of the pain you are in for.

    1. Re: Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Millennial here.

      We do know what we're in for thank you very much. We don't like it any more than you do. Also, we're the reason why retrogames cost so much. We want better games too, and there is only so many to go around.

      More to the point however, why is it a news worthy thing when an online service goes down? Plus this news report is for a fucking game console. Not the cell network, or a GPS failure, so what gives? Need to inform the newbs that it's not the console otherwise they will throw it out the third floor window? You'd think Microsoft would like that....

    2. Re:Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I rent and pay for pain in monthly installments so I can quit at any time.

    3. Re:Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone who buys nearly all of their new games as physical copies, as well as about 300 retro titles, I get your message (after scraping off the layers of cynicism).

      However, this is the natural progression of data. Is it not? I never hear people say "this is why I send all my correspondence through the mail" every time an exchange server has a service interruption.

    4. Re: Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quite frankly yesterday Microsoft also had a worldwide outage of Office 365 and Azure caused by what they are call a 3rd party authentication service. Current explanation makes no sense, proper postmortem will be delivered in 4 more days where we will hopefully get a better explanation. Given XBox Live lives on Azure I wouldn't be surprised if this is related to their remediation efforts.

    5. Re: Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why is it a news worthy thing when an online service goes down?

      Because, whippersnapper, in our day when The Internet went down, our games were still playable. Oh, can't surf? No problem, I'll just jump into the cockpit of my virtual A-10.

      Did mom pick up the phone extension in the other room, causing your modem to get cut off? No problem, I'll just declare vendetta on Miriam again.

      Has L3 been down for a few hours? (this stuff really used to happen!) No problem, I'll just have my dwarves throw molotov cocktais at Soulblighter's ghasts.

      It's newsworthy because it's not normal.

    6. Re: Reap what you sow by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 1

      More to the point however, why is it a news worthy thing when an online service goes down? Plus this news report is for a fucking game console.

      Ahh...youth. There was once a time, the ancient times, the times before Dice, where this type of article was the norm on the site. You see, Slashdot used to have the catchphrase "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters" in which all things Tech, Online Security, Gaming, Music Piracy, and Nerd Hobby related dominated the headlines and you never really saw anything about Politics...

      Then 9/11/2001 happened and drove a political wedge into the headlines as the Owners back then felt the, probably justifiable, need to put the infamous event on the front page. Ever since that dark day the site has been slowly pandering more and more to the political theaters. Then the site was sold to Dice and more and more articles were pushed to the front page not because of the technical content, but because it was determined that those topics would be hot and generate several hundred comments... even if the article itself was dibble.

      And now... here we are.

    7. Re: Reap what you sow by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      +10 for the Alpha Centauri reference. It's been about 3 weeks since I played that. Way overdue to start a new game.

    8. Re: Reap what you sow by edris90 · · Score: 1

      Because this is newss for nerds and nerds like video games, as they are one particular focus of Technology the Baliwick of nerds

    9. Re:Reap what you sow by gosand · · Score: 2

      This is exactly what happens when you buy in to a system that depends on online connectivity.

      Fuck that. When I buy a game I want to own the game. You millennials have no idea of the pain you are in for.

      I'm probably in the minority here, but is anyone else kind of impressed with how quickly the issue was identified, communicated effectively by MS, and corrected? Sure, some people may have been inconvenienced for at most 3 hours, but that really isn't the end of the world. I guess if you don't follow them on Twitter you might not have known what was going on, but all you'd have to do was ... I don't know... wait? I mean, just look at this news story. If you were not paying attention during these 3 hours of the Xboxalypse (tm) you would have never known or had time to be outraged.

      I get that it is disturbing that they could all just quit working for a while, but shit happens. That's what we get for expecting everything to just work and be at our fingertips. It's kind of like people complaining about their cellphones all the time instead of appreciating how far we have come in a relatively short period of time. Maybe I'm just old enough to remember when everyone wasn't so intertwined with being constantly bombarded with entertainment.

      And to the parent poster, yes you buy into a system that depends on online connectivity. But there are also huge advantages to that as well. I'd say it's a pretty good trade-off for 3 hours of outage a couple of times a year. But, I used to have to ride my bike 5 miles to get to the arcade and wait for the privilege to fill a game with my hard-earned quarters. And I was thrilled to do it.

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    10. Re: Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was Microsoft 365 that was out. Actually, it is properly called Microsoft 363 now that it has had two days outage so far this year. I think that puts them on track to have an even lower availability than last year. If the decline in their service availablility continues it will soon be "Microsoft 1" since it will only be available 1 day of the year.

    11. Re:Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shudder. Only moroons use Sexchange Server. Sexchange Server is unsafe to to connect to the Internet.

    12. Re: Reap what you sow by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      People actually care about their games, so they are more upset when games are disrupted as opposed to being unable to get to Office 365 to do work for a few hours.

    13. Re:Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I forgot where I was. Can't say anything good or even neutral about Microsoft on /.

      Well, unless you call them M$, Micro$oft or some variant that makes you look super smart and witty to all your linux friends.

    14. Re: Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because, whippersnapper, in our day when The Internet went down, our games were still playable.

      Right.. after you spent countless hours dealing with IRQ conflicts and startup problems and then couldn't play the game because it wasn't compatible with your sound card.

      Guess what? This was fixed by someone else in three hours. That is way, way better than things used to be, and way more convenient for gamers. For every hour they waited, you spent 10 hours dealing with headaches.

      So stuff a sock in it. Things got better. We're sorry you couldn't change with the times, but the times got better and gaming got more convenient for everyone.

    15. Re: Reap what you sow by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Right.. after you spent countless hours dealing with IRQ conflicts

      Computers weren't meant to be configured by idiots back then. Sorry.

    16. Re:Reap what you sow by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I'm probably in the minority here, but is anyone else kind of impressed with how quickly the issue was identified, communicated effectively by MS, and corrected? Sure, some people may have been inconvenienced for at most 3 hours,

      No. 3 hours is not impressive. Loads of users will have had this problem, and will remember how lame it is to depend on online connectivity.

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    17. Re:Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but you have to have online connective so the establishment can tell you what you should do through the computer! You work for it.

    18. Re: Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no!, taking responsibility over my own computer! How will my little brain handle it? Help me big company, take my money over and over again. Save me from setting up and managing my game library!!

    19. Re: Reap what you sow by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      Because, whippersnapper, in our day when The Internet went down, our games were still playable.

      They still are, for the most part, even on consoles. Now sure MMO's and MMO-ish games and online multiplayer will be unusable, but single-player games will be just fine and dandy.

      Some years back Sony had a similar problem during the PS3 days. It was a leap year bug, IIRC. Anyway, you couldn't access PSN, or use some PSN downloads, but single-player games on disc worked fine.

      And now, I could unplug the Ethernet cable from the PS4 and play offline no trouble at all. Sure I couldn't play MMO's like Star Trek Online, or MMO-ish Elite Dangerous, or FortNite: Save the World PVE, but I could play Diablo, Rebel Galaxy, or Skyrim with no problem.

      PS+ Instant game library stuff does need to be reauthorized every now and then, from what I can tell it checks your PS+ expiration date and sets expiration to that so you're good for a year. This mostly affects the Vita since you've got to start each PS+ freebie individually (you only have to go to the LiveArea screen) for the expiration date data to update.

      That doesn't apply to purchased games, they get expiration dates of "Never".

    20. Re: Reap what you sow by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      nerds like video games, as they are one particular focus of Technology the Baliwick of nerds

      Not as much as you might think. My late mother played video games and she was no nerd. Phone games in particular, she would often play a phone game at home. Had a thing for bowling games. She liked Hot Shots Golf too, though her long game needed work, she was a monster on the short game though. Her putting and chipping was better than mine.
      She unlocked all the characters before I did. She did this all with serious rheumatoid arthritis in her hands. (enough to deform her joints)

      That's one reason she liked phone games, easier on her hands. She simply couldn't play some games with the way her hands were deformed, Katamari Damacy and Gran Turismo in particular. She tried, but she couldn't do it.

    21. Re:Reap what you sow by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      will remember how lame it is to depend on online connectivity

      This sort of thing has happened before and it hasn't caused the effect you desire yet. Because it is just a minor temporary inconvenience.

      Besides, NTP? Update repos for Linux distros? Plenty of things use online connectivity and not all connectivity is bad.

    22. Re:Reap what you sow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No millennials read Slashdot

    23. Re:Reap what you sow by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      "Besides, NTP? Update repos for Linux distros? Plenty of things use online connectivity and not all connectivity is bad."

      What a disingenuous response. That stuff doesn't prevent starting up. (And you can use a GPS as your time source.)

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  3. Steam Was Down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could just be a coincidence, but for a while connections to Steam were down as well. May have a DDoS, a hardware hiccup, a routing hiccup, or again just coincidence. Made me think about the discussion about piracy the other day and the risks of always-online Steam. Thankfully the outage was short.

    1. Re: Steam Was Down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steam had its daily maintainence yesterday you idiot.

    2. Re: Steam Was Down by sexconker · · Score: 1

      No, Steam had its daily maintenance the day BEFORE yesterday, you moron.

    3. Re: Steam Was Down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steam was down about four hours ago for perhaps 30 minutes. So, no that wasn't it.

    4. Re: Steam Was Down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yesterday is a concept dependent on time zones and time of posting. So you're both idiots.

  4. Yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    THATS why a console does needs an online-link, so they can brick them all at the same time! Or is it just that their servers are running Windows10?

    captcha: thanks :-P

    1. Re:Yeah! by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      Who needs to brick them at the same time when the solders wear out.

      Sorry, just bitter that our lightly played PS3 is getting the yellow light of death.

  5. Good to know. Currently playing Elite. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    I'm on the Distant Worlds 2 expedition. ... Guess I'll have to turn off my wireless and unhook my Xbone from the LAN if I fire it up tonight.

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    1. Re:Good to know. Currently playing Elite. by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

      Anaconda space buss reporting in

    2. Re:Good to know. Currently playing Elite. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or you could try talking and interacting with people in real life.

    3. Re:Good to know. Currently playing Elite. by bob4u2c · · Score: 1

      Or you could try talking and interacting with people in real life.

      Whoooo, slow down there. Lets not be too hasty! Maybe the service will be back up by then?

      Sheesh, talk to people, like that would ever happen.

    4. Re:Good to know. Currently playing Elite. by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Dude, what the hell man?

    5. Re:Good to know. Currently playing Elite. by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      Elite Dangerous can't be played offline, it requires connectivity because of how the ED economy/missions/factions work. Even if you want to play in Solo mode, the game still needs online access.

      I hope eventually they'll include a true offline mode, but that's probably not a priority for FDev.

      I play on PS4 and play rarely (though I do have the Thrustmaster t-flight HOTAS 4) so I don't have a ship capable of doing DW2. I thought about making the trip to Pallaeni to see them off, but it would have been almost 40 jumps in my lightly- upgraded-at-the-time Cobra. I should be able to welcome them back though.

      Good luck on the trip.

      o7 CMDR

  6. Good job DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DRM ruins everything. Just let the people hack who want to hack. I'd have bought a Xbox if I could actually own it.

  7. Windows update issues too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I installed a fresh Windows 10 and it could not connect to Windows Update service. Said to try later, and others reporting similar issues. Also SmartScan could not scan my download files either. So I guess Microsoft is having some really big issues apparently.

  8. black screens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "displays being stuck on black screens at startup". That's pretty concerning, I hope it's easy to trigger a factory reset on xbox. What on their end could stop a machine from booting?

    1. Re:black screens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's probably no graceful way for it to fail out of a stalled connection checking for firmware updates or something at boot.

  9. Wait, so did being offline keep you from playing by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    your offline, disc based games?

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  10. SNES, NES, Genesis, Atari 2600 by Dirk+Becher · · Score: 1

    all still work!

    1. Re:SNES, NES, Genesis, Atari 2600 by chrism238 · · Score: 1

      As does my HP-25 Lunar Lander program....

    2. Re:SNES, NES, Genesis, Atari 2600 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately not. :-\
      My SNES took up the ghost a week ago, and I'm shopping for a new one. What an odd coincidence indeed!

  11. The System Is Down. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1
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  12. PC Master Race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boots just fine.

    Peasant People Problems!

  13. My 2 cents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I offer my 2 cents to all the fucktards on Twitter demanding compensation. A 3-hour outage on a service that at full retail price costs $59.99 USD per year works out to 2 cents. Fucking entitled retards.

  14. Atari 2600 by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    Atari 2600 never had this problem. I don't remember waiting for updates to finish or long boot times either.

    Same for Magnavox Odyssey, Intellevision, Colecovision, NES, TurboGrafix or Sega Genesis.

    1. Re:Atari 2600 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Same for Magnavox Odyssey, Intellevision, Colecovision, NES, TurboGrafix or Sega Genesis.

      SNES, Playstation, Playstation 2, Playstation 3, XBox , Wii, XBox 360 ...

      Connected games has led to several major flaws that have made them un-appealing to me.

      1) You can't run them fully offline, so a place like a cottage doesn't work
      2) Game quality is shit because they don't bother to finish it since they know they can update it
      3) Your privacy is in the shitter
      4) They seek to monetize everything, after you've already paid a bunch of money for the game

      Connected games pretty much ruined console gaming for me, and nobody is going to sell me one that doesn't have that shit, because it's too closely tied to the business model.

      I'm increasingly finding that most consumer products which want an internet connection are likely shit, and I don't want it. Because it will be insecure, spy on me, and generally consist of features I have no interest in ... it's none of Google or Samsung or anybody the fuck else's business what the temperature is in my house or what lights are.

      Fuck that. Keep your connected shit, I don't want it.

      Go ahead, buy your Bluetooth Buttplug, your Wifi Wife, or your Tele-dildonic Teapot .. if you want this shit, go right ahead. Me, I don't see what value any of this shit is supposed to add to my life.

    2. Re:Atari 2600 by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      All of the consoles that you mentioned worked by mashing the game directly into the motherboard. In fact, if I recall correctly, none of those consoles that you mentioned would boot without a game in the slot.

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    3. Re:Atari 2600 by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      All of the consoles that you mentioned worked by mashing the game directly into the motherboard. In fact, if I recall correctly, none of those consoles that you mentioned would boot without a game in the slot.

      You are correct. But they would boot without an internet connection. And some server being down halfway across the country, or world, wouldn't cause you to not be able to play the game you paid for.

    4. Re:Atari 2600 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and STILL you stupid fags keep buying and playing. fags.

  15. On-line game is non-starter for me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Xbox One owners are reporting major problems with their consoles online with displays being stuck on black screens at startup, games not loading, and errors when trying to login to Xbox Live

    This is sadly why I refuse to own a game console which requires an internet connection.

    When my XBox 360 started displaying ads, it got disconnected from the network never to be connected again. When the XBone was coming out and MS was saying "it must be on-line", I knew that was the end of console gaming for me.

    First, because I don't trust companies like MS to suddenly decide that content I've paid for is no longer available to me.

    Second, because I don't trust the competence of MS to maintain such a connected device, which they've been proving in spades with Windows 10.

    Third, because as an old fart who doesn't play on-line games, there is no benefit to me to have my video game on the internet, other than to put a microphone in my living room and hope that MS plays nice. I'm too cynical to hope that.

    Fourth, because fuck you with your ads, analytics, and other pointless on-line shit that is hostile to me as the one who bought the fucking console in the first place.

    I'm afraid I have no sympathy for a massive outage no doubt caused by Microsoft's new-found use of everyone as beta testers, and when my older XBox 360 dies and I can no longer play Skyrim in a completely off-line console, that will be the end of my gaming.

    I just don't see how I would trust a platform like this.

    1. Re:On-line game is non-starter for me ... by ffkom · · Score: 1

      I'm with you, and I usually have not anything positive to say about Microsoft, but I have to state that the Xbox One X does work quite well "offline". I own one that is just not connected to the Internet. I buy or lend games on discs, play them, then re-sell or return them. Which is actually much cheaper than buying games "online".

      Sure, many games try to lure you in the online-trap by touting what great adventures would lie ahead if playing online, but I could not care less.

  16. Betcha by DarkOx · · Score: 2

    I bet someone let a certificate somewhere expire. I'd put money on it!

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    1. Re:Betcha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm betting fried power supply on non-redundant router system. I WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY what's the action here

  17. Re: Up Your Meds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you think posting on this forum has any meaning or impact upon the world you need to UP YOUR DOSE OF THORAZINE son.

  18. You're a moron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "global technical disaster" + "Suspicious" now too, eh? Xbox having a network glitch happens monthly, they even report them on this shitty libertarian safe space website for morons. Feckless idiot.

  19. Disruptions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A communications disruption with Xbox Live can only mean one thing... invasion. :-)

  20. Re:Wait, so did being offline keep you from playin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Fortnite kids are likely thinking the Apocalypse has come. Yesterday it was down for several hours worldwide, today Xbox issues. If something happens tomorrow, I expect riots. Short riots. By which I mean not tall, cause they're kids. So cover your junk out there people!

  21. How is this just accepted? by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

    Remember 15 years ago when you would turn off the console, put in the game, turn the console back on, and start playing?

    How did people come to accept the disaster of modern consoles with convoluted menus, tons of bloat, app stores, online dependencies, etc? All garbage that exists only to make more after-sale profit off the suckers. Modern consumer electronics are so consumer hostile and yet nobody seems to care. It only gets worse every year.

    1. Re:How is this just accepted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Modern consumer electronics are so consumer hostile and yet nobody seems to care. It only gets worse every year.

      Many of us care, but we're called Luddites, old men, and paranoid.

      We should embrace modern technology and stop being so cranky we're told.

      Meanwhile people who know almost nothing about setting up computers or a network are buying connected devices, and letting them have free rein on their network with shit like UPnP, which just turns off all the security.

      They find their creepy baby monitor talking in strange voices to their children. They buy a Barbie which uploads everything their child to someone's server.

      Hell, they install locks that allows Amazon to open your door to strangers.

      Congratulations, you've put complex networked devices with major security ramifications to people who can barely operate their TV remote.

      But it's people like me who have been in IT for 25+ years who are the ones trying to explain why this is a terrible idea, and being dismissed as alarmist. OK, well, fine, let's ignore what I do for a living and how 6 months ago you could barely access your own wifi.

      Everyone is so obsessed with their connected gadgets they've stopped listening to the people they used to ask how to get onto the interwebs. Because they're all experts, and the devices undermine their security for them.

      They all want shiny and easy, but they have no idea of what else is happening.

      The upshot of all of this is now I just simply refuse to help or answer questions, because they're clearly experts now.

      I had to explain to my parents when they bought their first laptop that I was a two hour flight away, that I couldn't see their screen, had no idea what they'd done, and can't just magically divine their problem over the phone. They bought a Geek Squad package that day.

      So, I care about how this affects me, but the people buying the connected toilets and fridges? They're on their own.

    2. Re:How is this just accepted? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      A lot of people just assume this stuff is safe because there are smart people who worked on them and in any case they wouldn't push this stuff out to the public unless it was well thought out and didn't have security bugs. Those people are wrong of course. Those people who have been working on computers for decades however realize just how dysfunctional everything is behind the scenes.

      Consumers are now the alpha testers, and we have continuous roll-out of changes without spending any time running through full regression tests because that would cut into profits. The goal is to extract as much money from customers as you can before they head off to a newer fad.

    3. Re:How is this just accepted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Minimum Viable Product is everywhere now. If you've never heard someone gush about MVP, look it up.

    4. Re:How is this just accepted? by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      Remember 15 years ago when you would turn off the console, put in the game, turn the console back on, and start playing?

      Yes, and that is still the case now, for most console games. Say my internet goes down, I can still play all the Diablo, Skyrim, Minecraft I want. What I won't be able to do is play games with online multiplayer like MMO's, MMO-ish games, etc etc.

    5. Re:How is this just accepted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All us old farts, we're turning into Carry Caul.

    6. Re:How is this just accepted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That should've been Harry Caul...

  22. FUCK ONLINE ONLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Online only games are a STAIN on the industry. FUCK ANYONE WHO MAKES THEM.

    1. Re:FUCK ONLINE ONLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the internet is down, don't you have to fuck offline?

  23. Re: Up Your Meds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually there are a lot of powerful individuals who read the comments here, in order to gain insight into many things...

  24. WILDCAT IS ON TEH SPOKE!!!~`1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OMFG have you seen the new Halo 2 trailer it's like slow and it's telling you all the stuff you did in the first one then the music kicks in and and Master Chief comes out and gets a gun the earf is on fire and Chief is like fuck this im jumping and HE JUMPS PUT OF TEH SPACESHIP with angels singing and he lands on the bad guys and that annoying ai lady is like GO GET EM TIGER! WILDCAT IS ON TEH SPOKE!!!~`1 and theres less polys but rawkin bumb mappings you can view this on a special MICROSOFT xbox disc

  25. Re:Wait, so did being offline keep you from playin by BringsApples · · Score: 2

    XBox Live is a BS fee that you pay in order to play online with others. So as long as your game doesn't require you to be online to play it, then yeah, you could have played it. The problem is that most games today require online activity in some way, and that made it impossible for many.

    My thoughts were that MS was experiencing some sort of DoS attack, because if you kept trying to get in, eventually it'd let you. And once you were in, game-play was fine, from what I saw.

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  26. Microsoft's SSO system was down yesterday by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    Office 365 stopped working so I couldn't use my work email.
    Anything that used "login.microsoftonline.com" as an authentication provider stopped working.
    I wouldn't be surprised if that was the XBox issue too.

    1. Re:Microsoft's SSO system was down yesterday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Office 365 stopped working so I couldn't use my work email.
      Anything that used "login.microsoftonline.com" as an authentication provider stopped working.

      Which should pretty much highlight the idiocy of using any on-line service from Microsoft.

      Isn't the point of all of these cloud services redundancy and failover? So either MS was too fucking lazy to apply these things to their own stuff, or too incompetent to have been believed in the first place.

      If they have outages on two of their major cloud platforms in two days, WTF are people thinking in handing them control of mission critical stuff in the first place?

      A cloud service, with a single point of failure ... pretty much is the way you go if you're a fucking idiot.

  27. That's Rich by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    Apple shuts down small experiments and buys giant "muh Privacy" billboards in Vegas, but also forces iOS users to use Google's search, the largest surveillance apparatus there is.

    For eight billion reasons per year (do as they say, not as they do).

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    1. Re:That's Rich by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      It defaults to Google (which is bad), but it lets you set ot Google, Bing, DDG, and I think a couple of others. It's available via there settings.

      Just like you can opt out of a lot of other privacy invady things. It's annoying that you have to, but it is nice that you can.

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  28. Re:Wait, so did being offline keep you from playin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I believe this may be what has keept me from playing DVD and Blu-Ray discs the last day or so. I am very much a fringe user because I bought my Xbox One for media usage, not gaming.

  29. I wondered why ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... mine didn't work.

    Any word on when they'll be back up?

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  30. Re:Wait, so did being offline keep you from playin by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    Ha, some games on my ipad require constant internet connection despite not actually needing this if you're not engaged in a silly pvp side-game. I have noticed some mobile games now state if they don't need a network connection.

  31. Re:Wait, so did being offline keep you from playin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Ha, some games on my ipad require constant internet connection despite not actually needing this if you're not engaged in a silly pvp side-game. I have noticed some mobile games now state if they don't need a network connection.

    This was true even back before I traded in my first gen iPad for something like $50 in store credit.

    It got so bad, I would download an app, put the iPad into airplane mode and launch the app, and if the app complained it couldn't talk to the internet, it got immediately uninstalled. Sorry, one of the reasons I might want a game is on an airplane or on vacation when I have no connectivity. I'm not registering, signing up, liking you on Facebook, or any of that shit.

    Pretty much I knew at that point that it was all shit from here, and that apps no longer were there to do what they said they did, but be a conduit to ads and other bullshit.

    That was pretty much the point where I decided that most apps were shit, added little or no value, and weren't things you could trust.

    Once you realize this, it's amazingly easy to tune out apps and stop looking for them -- they're just vehicles for ads and other shit, as such, they become something you can just stop giving a damn about.

    Look at it this way, your average app is made by people with the integrity of the most slimy used car sales person you have ever met. You wouldn't buy a car from them, but you're giving them access to all of your phone and contacts.

  32. Proprietary software is always unwise. by jbn-o · · Score: 2

    A clear example of how software non-freedom (proprietary, user-subjugating software) hurts users. This is a relatively minor, therefore fortunate, example in that (as far as the Xbox goes) it's chiefly for recreational use and nobody's lives depends on this. But as more important systems take on the same network-bound DRM schemes, people will be needlessly impoverished, needlessly suffer reputation damage, needlessly lose jobs, and even needlessly die from things like this. It's a good thing that medical equipment, for instance, is not networked and under the control of those at the console (we also know this from what ought to be common sense and the stories about CPAP machines ratting out their users to insurance companies and medical organizations).

    Technologically speaking, you should be able to host your own server for these games and thus keep playing against opponents without involving a single central authority you can't replace. Software freedom would give you the freedom you need to improve the game to implement this. A single point of failure central authority, however, also puts you at the mercy of that authority when they want to stop you from playing the game (and by "you" I mean cherry-picked individuals, sets of users, or all users—their choice of users)

    I'm sure some of this has already happened and it's only a matter of time until there are enough stories we can point to to create an organized map of them like what the GNU Project has done to back up their claim that proprietary software is often malware.

  33. not impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no I wasn't impressed. but then I don't play video gaymez. I dont use o363-and-counting. I don't rely on azure. this is a 3rd world problem, can't care.

  34. Re: Up Your Meds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Powerful individuals..... to gain insight... SLASHDOT?!! Yeah.. right..

  35. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I played games on my PC today. Worked fine.

  36. Re:Wait, so did being offline keep you from playin by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

    That's seems unlikely. In my experience, you can play any normal offline game, disc or downloaded, without an internet connection. I've seen partial outages before (being unable to sign in was the last one, I believe), and I could still play all my games just fine. I've also played games when my entire network has gone down on rare occasions.

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  37. Re:Wait, so did being offline keep you from playin by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

    Generally no, at least similar issues don't on the PS3/PS4, except for games that require online connectivity: MMO's, mulitplayer shooters and the like.

  38. MVP is the bane of my existence, along with Agile. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I _enjoy_ writing high quality software, where the requirements were thought through, with some smart people spending time to specify what the software is supposed to do, rigorous testing to ensure it actually does, everything from the security teams' repertoire thrown against it, big bug bounties for the stuff we still missed and a clear better-offline-than-insecure stance.

    I _get_to_ "plan" at most a week ahead, with colleagues that have decided "not caring" (that moving from "minimum viable" to "actually working" is _never_ going to happen, just add more features that are also MVP) is the best they can do for the business' bottom-line (and their own careers/wallets, they hope) while insisting on using the very latest 0.0.x version of any random given technology giving them all the joy they could ever want and explicit instructions from management (ex-coders no less) to avoid "overengineering" edge cases that will "only affect a small percentage of users" and to make sure to sidestep-and-mothball the security teams' requests whenever feasible. The sad thing is that financially this may actually be the best approach, it just disgusts me to my very core...

    I guess I should try moving from financial services to aerospace software...

  39. Welcome to the stupid era... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    where everything is hooked to some sort of cloud, and as a result everything can suddenly stop working because a network connection is down or because a server is down, or because some programmer made an error and his new code just propagated through the cloud to a server or to a bit of hardware in your home or office....

    When things ran stand-alone, this sort of garbage just didn't happen.

  40. Re:Wait, so did being offline keep you from playin by Waccoon · · Score: 1

    XBox One was supposed to be online-only even though it uses a disc drive, but due to backlash (and jeering from Sony), Microsoft changed their mind at the last minute before launch.

    Next generation, however...

  41. Re:Wait, so did being offline keep you from playin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only if you couldn't disable your connection. If you have WiFi you're out of luck because you first have to access the GUI to switch it off. If you have Ethernet you can take out the cable and boot up normally offline and play offline.

  42. Time for a nerd/techie exodus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We can't fix what is wrong with society. We never could. But we could
    leave them to live their lives and build ourselves somewhere better.
    Perhaps the barbarian hordes will march on us and crush us like so many
    intellectual nations of the past. Or perhaps they will destroy
    themselves leaving us to inherit the Earth. Only time will tell, but
    letting things stay as they are is doing no one any good.

  43. Enjoy your DRM laden devices by strikethree · · Score: 1

    This is why I don't own any "modern" game consoles. Everything up to about the PlayStation 2 was awesome. After that, the DRM aspect became waaaaaaaaaay too onerous.

    I had a PS3 because someone didn't want theirs anymore. I bought a couple games for it, but I am unsure of whatever became of that console. The first game I bought required a "patch" that was greater than a gigabyte. I literally was not permitted to play this game I just bought until I connected the PS3 to a network and downloaded the update.

    Fuck.
    That.
    Shit.

    It was the DRM mechanisms preventing me from playing a new game until I connected the PS3 to the network for some sort of grace granting me access to the game. Of course, once that grace was given, it was no longer the DRM mechanisms keeping me from playing. Now, it was just that the distributor deciding that I can't play an unpatched game.

    I still blame DRM for preventing me from playing a game that I legitimately bought and paid for. I was in a remote location so it wasn't just a matter of minutes of waiting. It was weeks.

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  44. it's microsoft, what did you expect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their a criminal organization, only complete fools will touch anything they make. I'm sure a lot of microsoft apologists will get their underoos in a twist, but screw it, they suck harder than a hoover.

    You deal with MS, you get every goddamn thing you deserve for being an idiot.

  45. Re:Wait, so did being offline keep you from playin by Monkey · · Score: 1

    Five years ago, I was one of those guys who was like "If I can't buy a physical discs for it, then I'm not buying that console" . Then I realized how fucking annoying it was to have to find the appropriate piece of plastic to stick in the machine every time I wanted to play the game (especially when 99% of the game's files are installed directly to the Xbox hard drive anyway). Now I only buy the downloadable version of games, way more convenient. If the Blu-Ray drive disappeared from the next Xbox console, I wouldn't miss it.