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2018 Was the 'Worst Year Ever' For Smartphone Shipments (cnbc.com)

2018 was the worst year ever for smartphone shipments, according to the latest figures from research firm IDC. It means Apple isn't the only company fighting to keep people interested in buying new phones every year. From a report: IDC said 1.4 billion smartphones were sold in 2018, marking a 4.1 percent decline for the year in an industry that's accustomed to rapid growth. In 2014, as well, 1.4 billion phones were shipped, which means the industry seems to have regressed about 5 years. Shipments shrank 4.9 percent for the fourth quarter of 2018, IDC said. Apple said earlier this week that iPhone revenues were 15 percent lower than last year. CEO Tim Cook said the strengthened dollar, an economic slowdown in China, lower subsidies on phones and its battery replacement program contributed to the drop in sales. Samsung phone shipments declined 5.5 percent and Apple's slipped 11.5 percent during the quarter, IDC said. But Huawei, which was able to capitalize on China, saw a 33.6 percent bump in shipments. Chinese vendors Oppo and Xiaomi also increased shipments, IDC said.

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  1. Well their batteries keep dying. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't want to buy a new phone because they're not worth the cost. They keep breaking and their batteries die. Why would I keep spending money on these hyped up pieces of garbage that surveill me?

    1. Re:Well their batteries keep dying. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't want to buy a new phone because they're not worth the cost. My two-year old, second hand phone works fine for my use case and is still receiving updates. YMMV

    2. Re:Well their batteries keep dying. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. The old phone is still working, and the new ones aren't much better. A few more megapixels or an extra camera does not justify a new phone.

      And they are all like. They just cannot innovate. Same form factor, nearly same hw. Nobody has anything extra the others doesn't have. E-paper anyone? DAB-radio? Slide-out keyboard? Nope, they are all the same - and the same as the last 4 years.

      Perhaps those folding screens will be interesting, replacing phone & tablet with a single device. Unless they break easily. But they are not around yet, so . . .

    3. Re: Well their batteries keep dying. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They are actually getting worse! Notches? No headphone jack? No SD card? Glued batteries?
      They can shove those 'flagship' pieces of junk back where they pulled them out from!

    4. Re:Well their batteries keep dying. by ctilsie242 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have a two year old phone as well. Even more ironic, it has a nice feature that the newer iPhones don't... the fingerprint scanner.

      Why spend all that cash for a relatively throwaway item? All buying a new phone does is make the phone makers richer. In previous years where there were actual improvements with devices, like higher IPS displays, fingerprint scanners, faster Wi-Fi and cellular speeds, it made sense to go with a newer phone. However, it will be years before "5G" gets rolled out, and there isn't much the latest iPhone 10xspro-platinum can do that an earlier iPhone can't, other than bouncy poop icons, and a little bit better camera footage.

      Phone makers have failed to understand something: The economy is tightening. People are starting to make sure their job is secure, that they can cover next month's rent, and meet basic needs, should they get laid off. The last thing people are caring about is a new phone, especially when companies are starting to do mass layoffs.

      Want to make a phone that sells? Make a decent midrange phone. Focus on VWs, not Maybachs. People will buy phones, but they are not going to throw $1500 at a new device in this economy. Perhaps make phones with user replacable batteries and other accessories, because people will buy new batteries, but not phones, especially if the economy gets worse.

    5. Re:Well their batteries keep dying. by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As someone that recently ended up with an iPhone XR (I was intending to stay with my 7 for a couple more years, but circumstances gave me this new phone) I have to say that FaceID is an under-appreciated feature.

      Some people have trouble with it, and that's a bummer, but I've never had any issue. It works at surprising angles and it's more convenient for me as a person that finds that he has gloves on or dirty/wet hands a surprising amount of the time. My phone never feels locked to me anymore. When I go back to my TouchID iPad, it feels broken. I wait for the hidden notifications to pop into view, and it takes me a moment to context switch and put my thumb on the fingerprint reader. My phone literally just beeped as I was writing this, and I leaned forward slightly and it unlocked while I was typing on my PC.

      Is it worth the aesthetic tradeoffs or price? I can't answer that for you, but this is a seriously impressive bit of technology. My phone never feels locked anymore, just ready to go. When I need to fill in a password, I just keep looking at my phone and my password manager handles the rest.

      I know it's a small thing to put your finger on a special fingerprint scanner in the grand scheme of things, but I honestly never want to go back.

    6. Re:Well their batteries keep dying. by Scarletdown · · Score: 2

      I don't buy a new house every year, or a new car every year, or a new TV every year, or a new refrigerator every year. Why the fuck should I buy a new phone every year when what I have is working fine and will continue to do so for years to come?

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  2. 1754 was not very good either ... by ElRabbit · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... so worst ever is probably exaggerated here

    1. Re:1754 was not very good either ... by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Does that mean desktop PCs are coming back?

      A few years ago it was trendy to depict the death of the PC, which never happened, it was just a mature market and there was no need to upgrade any more. Now it's cellphones' turn.

    2. Re: 1754 was not very good either ... by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why would there be a resurgence in sales? What most people have now is good enough, there's no need to upgrade any more. That doesn't mean it's dying, merely that the upgrade cycle has been broken.

    3. Re:1754 was not very good either ... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Funny

      To be fair the year-on-year decrease in sales from 1753 was 0%, which is lower than 4.1%.

      1999 was the best year, when smartphone sales increased from 0% to NaN%.

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    4. Re: 1754 was not very good either ... by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Informative

      The people who only used computers for social media will only use phones for the same thing, sure. But what made the desktop unnecessary is all of the other things which you can now do with a phone. Document viewing and editing, music storage and playback (or even composition), photo capture manipulation and categorization, finance management, tax preparation and filling ... phones can now do the vast majority of the things we used to need computers for. So what's left? Not much that would interest 95% of home users. Business/professional use is a different thing.

    5. Re: 1754 was not very good either ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, edit a document on a phone. Show me. And I don't mean cut&paste - write a few paragraphs of text.

      A home need only one 'computer', not a computer per person. Because light games & browsing is now done on phones & tablets. That computer is still needed whenever writing more than a tweet or two is called for. Therefore, computer sales are down - but the computer is in no way 'dead'. Stuppid salesmen tend to call anything 'dead' that isn't growing though - according to such people, 'food' is dead. Except it isn't - food sell as much as ever, and employ lots of people. But of course no increase.

    6. Re:1754 was not very good either ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, but they never went away. Tech businesses have no concept of what a mature market looks like. I bet Coke doesn't see massive sales growth year over year. At best they see growth in line with population growth. It took microcomputers around 30 years to hit that mark. It only took smartphones 10. The market isn't dead. It's just that we have hit a point where the market has reached sustainable saturation while at the same time the products have developed to be good enough. Early on each new model was objectively better over the last and provided a real tangible benefit. Now they don't. If anything they are worse in a lot of ways. At least in terms of what consumers actually want and what OEMs are willing to offer.

      There will always be an enthusiast niche who will jump for the latest and greatest, just like with PCs. But they will be small. And I think since the smartphone and mobile devices in general are designed as accessory devices, and not your primary computer, the niche will be small. But for the vast majority of the population they will only be replacing their smartphones through attrition from here on out. The world is not coming to an end and the smartphone isn't dead. It's just mature. And for some reason the tech industry can't wrap its head around the concept of a product segment ever being in a phase of growth or death. There is no middle ground.

    7. Re: 1754 was not very good either ... by Bert64 · · Score: 2

      Most people don't need a computer, and aren't tech savvy enough to operate one safely... They might have bought one because at the time it was the only way to get a web browser or access email but it was never a suitable tool for most people.
      General purpose computers are and always have been a niche for geeks.

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  3. It is revenue that matters by quenda · · Score: 3, Funny

    Never mind sales numbers, all Apple has to do is keep increasing the price of new models in proportion to falling sales numbers.
    Revenue stays the same, and costs even go down! Shareholders happy. How can the plan fail?

  4. Re: by kurkosdr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is how Android's problematic security updates will become a real problem. People will now keep old unpatched Android devices for longer, so all it will take is one golden exploit (think of Stagefright but self-propagating like MS Blaster of old) to bring down the Android ecosystem. Because most devices in the ecosystem are unpatchable.

  5. Why is this bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Smartphone tech has matured, so we dont need to upgrade every year or two year. This is a good thing. Why is every shit news site pumping out story after story on this. Is it a really a bad thing when we can consume less and save more?

    1. Re:Why is this bad by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

      Less money spend on smartphones means that more money is available for other things.

  6. No killer features. by johnsie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most people use their phones for messaging, calling people and scrolling through websites or looking up information. That can be done well on even the cheapest modern phones. I think a lot of people are addicted to their phones, but there's not this need to have the latest and greatest anymore as long as the apps run ok.

    1. Re:No killer features. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Until recently there was a big difference between cheaper phone's cameras and the high end ones. Now that gap has narrowed considerably, especially due to some really good mid range Chinese devices pushing up expectations.

      The industry is hoping that foldable displays are the next big thing, but so far no-one has demonstrated one that looked much good. They all tend to be a bit thick and a bit naff looking around the hinge.

      The only other thing at the moment is getting rid of the notch. Many phones are going to pin holes now, which are better but still not perfect. Some are going to sliders which seem to work surprisingly well.

      Google gave up on 3D scanning, seems like Apple may have a crack at it but it's not clear what the market is.

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  7. actually by renegade600 · · Score: 2

    actually it was the worse year for smartphone prices. if the prices were reasonable, they would have been no problems with shipments.

  8. Re:Captain Obvious... by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 2

    Most of those people already own cars as well. Doesn't mean they won't need a new car one day. Sooner or later, smartphone sales will stabilize the same way cars did after WWII. Some people will buy a new smartphone every year, just because that's what they do. Others will use their Galaxy 5 until it finally dies before they buy a new one.

  9. Re:Captain Obvious... by prefec2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When people only buy phones for replacement and do not increase the frequency of buying new phones nor do new customers appear on the scene, you have a stagnating market. Stagnating markets != growing market => economists get in panic, as growth is required for capitalism (in its present form). That is the concept the post you are answering to is refering to.

  10. wonder why by sad_ · · Score: 2

    much like with desktop/laptops there isn't much need to upgrade even a mid-level smartphone these days.
    which features does it have to warant me to spend a lot of money for such a device?
    cpu power is adequate and even storage is not really an issue most of the time anymore.
    a better camera? the current offerings are probably more then good enough for most people.

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  11. Re: Why upgrade? by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Informative

    From what I've seen amongst friends and acquaintances, there are only three reasons most people upgrade these days:

    1. The battery life has decreased to the point that it's unusable, and they don't seem to understand that you can change the battery.
    2. The phone stops working and is out of warranty.
    3. They're on a "plan" which amortizes the cost of the phone over several years, it's time for a renewal, and the provider has offered them a "deal" which they think is good.

    Personally I just upgrade on a 2-3 year cycle and buy second hand phones which are about a year old. By that point they cost half or less of the original price, and they've been on the market long enough for me to evaluate the relative performance and reliability based on consumer reviews. Plus I can check and make sure they have an active development community on XDA and a way to unlock the bootloader.

  12. Re:Why is this badGood for the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Capitalism does not require growth. Bullshit expectations of increased profit revenue requires growth.

    Look, I get by on X Euro every year. If I don't increase my profits every year...my god, think of the consequences to the capitalism!

    I don't know why everyone is brainwashed into thinking capitalism = unstopped growth and socialism = stalin.... a little of both with expectations of peace and happiness instead of growth and war would make a big difference towards unchecked carbon release.

    Of course that's what various hippies since Jesus have been saying, so who gives a shit. The smart phone market is drying up! Fire the lowest paid employees and drive the stock back up!

  13. 1.4 *billion*?? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1.4 billion?? Think about that as a percentage of the world's population. Holy carp.

    And that's vs. the whole world population. What fraction of that group is actually the market for what is essentially as luxury consumer product?

    This has to be one of the most amazingly successful luxury items of all time.

    What should astonish is that it was ever more successful.

    1. Re:1.4 *billion*?? by cordovaCon83 · · Score: 2

      I really don't think of my phone as a luxury item though. Maybe ten years ago when it was impractical to afford one outright and no one would have any pre-conceived notion that you probably have one. It was only ten years before that when owning a cellular phone of any kind was not a given. In a world where even McDonald's requires you to fill out the application online, devices like smartphones are more utility than luxury maybe not globally but at least in the US

  14. Re: Why is this badGood for the customer by c6gunner · · Score: 3, Interesting

    However, capitalism requires growth

    People keep saying this as if it were self evident, but it's just nonsense. Capitalism tends to create and encourage growth, but there's nothing about it which requires growth.

  15. Cheap Phones FTW by coofercat · · Score: 2

    I just bought a Doogee phone for about £45. It's to replace my old Galaxy S5 mini which we were using as a "sonos remote control" in the kitchen. Sonos are upgrading their app and whatever version of android the S5 runs is too old for it. So my upgrade prompt was bloody Sonos :-(

    Anyway, the doogee runs Android 8.1, has a big bright screen, comes with a case and a screen protector and (so far) looks like a great replacement for the remote control. At this sort of price, it makes me slightly regret spending £10 buying a new battery for the samsung a few months back. My only slight gripe is that there's no 'desk dock' for it as the power socket is at the top.

    For those looking for an actual phone, it's got dual sim, removable battery, headphone jack and most of the features you would want, but it is quite heavy. However, when we need another 'remote control' somewhere else in the house, I'll be buying another. Now the S5 is freed up, I'm on the prowl for a different OS to stick on it...

  16. Re: Why is this badGood for the customer by Kokuyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Shareholders require growth. That's about it. Now how intrinsically linked are stock exchanges and capitalism?

  17. Refuse to replace the batteries by iampiti · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Tim Cook said it himself: Allowing customers to replace the batteries was part of the problem. The obvious solution is for Apple to refuse to replace them while making new phones even harder to open./s
    Seriously, this crap of making electronics purposefully hard to repair is a cancer. They should be built to be easily repairable and to last. Warranties somewhat take care of the latter but there's no law to promote the former. It's not only a matter of money but also of e-waste

  18. Re: Why upgrade? by mjwx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From what I've seen amongst friends and acquaintances, there are only three reasons most people upgrade these days:

    1. The battery life has decreased to the point that it's unusable, and they don't seem to understand that you can change the battery.
    2. The phone stops working and is out of warranty.
    3. They're on a "plan" which amortizes the cost of the phone over several years, it's time for a renewal, and the provider has offered them a "deal" which they think is good.

    I can boil that one down in to 1 reason.

    1. The phone they have is good enough.

    Smartphones are now mature. There's no huge advantage to buying a new model because it will only have minor differences. There aren't any more "killer" features to add, most improvements will not be noticed by the user, making fonts slighlty clearer, improving memory management, so on and so forth. There just isn't the impetus to upgrade any more.

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  19. Re:Why is this badGood for the customer by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Capitalism not only requires growth, it requires exponential growth.

    Investors, i.e. capitalists, expect a return on their investment, and they expect that return to be some percentage of that investment. A percentage return on investment implies exponential growth. Would you invest in something where you expected to get your principle back and nothing else?

    You can maybe imagine some form of "capitalism" where a group of leaders, chosen by some other means than how much money they have, decide how to allocate resources.

  20. Re:Scamsung by jdschulteis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It sure seems like the wonders of modern polymers and composites should allow creation of a phone that can charge wirelessly (unlike metal), survive modest falls (unlike glass), and still provide the "luxury" feel that will convince some people to pay $1000 for a $300 item.

  21. Re:Scamsung by ctilsie242 · · Score: 2

    The ironic thing that Samsung knows how to do this. They make tanks and fighter jets, for crying out loud. They know what they are doing when it comes to composites and materials. It wouldn't be hard for them to make a ceramic back that can take heavy abuse, but still give that top notch phone feel. Or, they can take a step back and go back to machined aluminum which has proven itself to be a decent phone material.

  22. Re: Why is this badGood for the customer by c6gunner · · Score: 2

    Exactly this. Only the shareholders who buy stocks specifically looking for growth are demanding growth. More conservative investors tend to buy stocks which have a strong history of paying out regular, predictable dividends.

    In the absence of growth companies would just need to focus more on paying dividends, and investors would have to tame their get-rich-quick ambitions. The market would still work fine.

  23. Smartphone is the new PC by guacamole · · Score: 2

    Remember how the PC market started stalling at about the time of introduction of Windows Vista a decade ago, and then went into a full decline by 2012? People who don't play 3D games started to keep their PCs for 6-7 years because PC with Core 2 Duo was enough for checking mail, social networks, or browsing the web. The smartphones have reached the same plateau.

    I recall how horrible were the early iPhones. They reminded me the PCs of the 1990s. Despite all the innovations, there was no denying that say iPhone 3G or iPhone 4S were ridiculously and painfully slow for things like web browsing. Watching video or reading the ebook on 3-inch something display was terrible. But the technology has moved on, and I myself use a 2016 Honor 6X phone which cost me 200 bucks (when it was new). It's has a big bright screen, good camera, the security patch level from Dec 2018, battery to last at least a day and runs all apps that I actually use flawlessly. Sometimes I entertain the idea of getting a 2019 phone, but at the same time I just wonder, don't fix what's not broken.

  24. Re: Why is this badGood for the customer by Solandri · · Score: 2

    Shareholders require profits, not growth. Growth is desirable because it's usually coupled with bigger profits, but is not necessary. In the absence of growth, profits can come from increased economic efficiency alone.

    e.g. I own a dairy farm, you own a chicken farm. I have a refrigerator full of milk and would like something to eat. You have a refrigerator full of eggs and would like something to drink. The efficiency of our economics is improved if I trade some of my milk for some of your eggs. That is, eggs are more valuable to me than milk; milk is more valuable to you than eggs.

    So when we trade milk for eggs, both of us come out winners (we both profit from the transaction). I give up undesired milk to gain desired eggs. You give up undesired eggs to gain desired milk. This is what they mean when they say economics is not a zero-sum game. The physical goods and services may be zero sum, but their value is positive sum (because the value to each participant is different). In other words, economics is not just about making stuff; it's also about distributing that stuff for maximum benefit. You and I can continue our milk and egg trade arrangement in perpetuity. It will continue to benefit us (profit us) even though there's no growth, and even if there's no change.