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LibreOffice 6.2 Brings New Interfaces, Performance Improvements To the Open Source Office Suite (techrepublic.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: New interface styles and feature improvements are available in version 6.2 of LibreOffice -- the most popular open-source office suite -- released Thursday by The Document Foundation. As with any software update, bug fixes and feature enhancements are present, making this release a significant upgrade, particularly for users coming from Microsoft Office, or working with files created with those programs. LibreOffice now supports SVG-based icons for toolbars in the Breeze, Colibre, and Elementary icon sets as an experimental feature, to better support HiDPI displays increasingly found in notebook PCs. The Elementary icon set was also improved significantly, adding a 32px PNG version, and fixing inconsistencies between the 16, 24, and 32px versions, as well as adding more icons across the set to prevent reverting to defaults. In LibreOffice 6.2, the "Tabbed" interface is now available for Writer, Calc, Impress, and Draw, and is considered sufficiently stable to be a default option. This interface mimics the oft-maligned "Ribbon interface" in Office 2007. The "traditional" Office-style toolbar is default, though the Tabbed interface can be enabled through the "View > User Interface" menus.
I'm waiting for LibreOffice 365, with the $0/year subscription fee.
When do we get the subscription model like Microsoft Office? This is 2019 people. If I can't have my subscription apps talk to AI API on my other cloud apps so that I can stay always connected to the social matters I need to be outraged about while in my office app than what's the point of even being a ha1b woman who identifies as a black man identifying as a gay transgender Latino woman in IT?
This is good. I never used anything before Word 2007 so the tab grouping are a lot more familiar to me.
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With all the important capabilities that need to be in a doc processing suite, you decided that FancyShinyIcons was what matters?
What I want, and would have hoped most users want, is improved workflow and an absolute minimum of changes to the interface. Why learn a new set of icons when we just finished learning the last set of icons? Why deal with commands getting rearranged in Ribbon submenus? Let us do our work and just facilitate interfaces and filetype conversions.
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I'm going to put a hold on LibreOffice updates until I get around to loading it up in a VM for testing,
I'm all for feature and security updates but after having to deal with all the UI "improvements" in the UI's of various application (Firefox, Word, Windows, etc.) over the years I am hesitant to give up what I have become familiar with if I can avoid it.
Who's parliament?
Years ago I discussed with some OpenOffice developers telling them that OpenOffice required to have a modern look. They told me "we don't need Ribbon"... since when making look cool means to copy Microsoft's Ribbon? OpenOffice developers were very limited to have the same features of MS Office, but they never understood what "making it look cool" really means.
I'm grateful to the LiberOffice folks. They're been the "Office-but-better" suite on my computers for a while now, and I'm very happy with it.
If you use LIbreOffice (like I do), you should go donate if you can (like I do) and/or contribute to improvements if you're capable (I am not).
You are welcome on my lawn.
more auto playz please! More scripts please!
In LibreOffice 6.2, the "Tabbed" interface is now available for Writer, Calc, Impress, and Draw, and is considered sufficiently stable to be a default option. This interface mimics the oft-maligned "Ribbon interface" in Office 2007.
Obligatory "you were supposed to destroy them, not join them" post.
At least the classic view still exists and is the default.
I know it's meant as a joke,
but I build LO from live sources every week.
I actually even pay something. But only as a donation.
From Wikipedia:
Parliament is a funk band formed in the late 1960s by George Clinton as part of his Parliament-Funkadelic collective. Less rock-oriented than its sister act Funkadelic, Parliament drew on science-fiction and outlandish performances in their work.
I'm going to put a hold on LibreOffice updates until I get around to loading it up in a VM for testing,
Why would you do that if you weren't doing it before?
I'm all for feature and security updates but after having to deal with all the UI "improvements" in the UI's of various application (Firefox, Word, Windows, etc.) over the years I am hesitant to give up what I have become familiar with if I can avoid it.
You didn't read the summary. They didn't change the interface. They merely gave an alternative option that is NOT the default. The default is approximately unchanged. Some people like or at least are used to the current Microsoft interface so why not have an option to make those people comfortable? It won't be what I use but if it works for someone else then that is fine. My user interface preferences do not have to be universally shared.
an enhancement and if I can not go back to classic. I will stick with old versions or find a new choice.
;)
Just my 2 cents
Just last week we were talking about why people don't update their programs. Changing the UI was a biggie. LibreOffice Draw changed it's UI a year or two back, took me an hour or two to figure out where things went and, when I did, I preferred the old UI.
Ditto ribbons. I've been using them for several years now, still don't like them, much prefer the older way of doing things.
LibreOffice does what I need it to do, as they're changing the UI again I doubt I'll ever update it again.
So, is it up to Word 0.8b now?
The world has lots of volunteers for all kinds of 'worthy causes'. If people want to donate their own time and/or money to something that they feel passionate about, then good on them! But I really wonder about all the users out there who complain when someone chooses to make changes that they do not like. It is free software! The people building it do not get paid to make it do what YOU want. They work on features that they think are fun, not ones that necessarily add value for you. You are not a customer, but rather a recipient of someone else's largesse. Take it or leave it.
.. you still have a pig.
New interfaces but no screenshots. Sheesh!
On high-DPI screens, the icons were so tiny, the interface became unusable.
Granted, high-DPI is already idiotic itself, as it only wastes energy to display things you can't see anyway.
But if you're suffering from having to use such a screen, trust me, you do want scalable icons.
I still think Lotus SmartSuite's InfoBox had the best interface, and everything else is just a half-assed clone of it. (Especially because they don't even highlight which settings were changed from the base template class.) The only change it needed, was to spread the tabs into a sidebar, once the screens became big enough to allow it.
The ribbon interface was especially stupid, since the "sidebar" was placed at the top! On wide screens! And because there was no logic between the UI visuals and the controls to change them via keyboard.
Many years ago, I was using Microsoft Word. I wrote something for more than 3 hours. I then discovered that Microsoft Word was not able to load that file! Yow!
I was able to load the file in LibreOffice. Since then, I don't use Microsoft Word.
I would love to roll Libre out to our company, but it still can’t open up 10 year old word or excel docs without screwing up the formatting.
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Is it still written in Java instead of native C/C++?
Because if it is still in Java it is a no go.
As in rudimentary data structures? You have a sequence of slides (aha! A linked list!) in Impress, drag to reorder them (change a few pointers), they inexplicably vanish (pointers incorrectly updated) and what few slides are still in the list are now in the wrong order (Free bonus: Memory corruption!), then Impress crashes two minutes later and you lose hours of work because its inept automatic save system doesn't actually automatically save anything. Meanwhile, PowerPoint and Google Slides actually work fine for the same task while Impress is busy falling all over itself on the most basic functionality.
Can't fix stupid except to replace the entire LibreOffice team with intelligent devs who have a clue. Actually, scratch that. Replace both the team AND the product. Neither are worth salvaging.
Good developers realize that correct functionality and stability come FIRST. Then, maybe, if there are no open issues to triage in the issue tracker, work on breaking the app with visualization enhancements. But good developers also realize that making such changes will likely break things and are therefore not eager to make them.
LibreOffice should modify its tie for OpenJDK instead of Oracle's Java (that requires fee for users and enterprises).
And embedding support of WebP to this LibreOffice makes the documents smaller.
The biggest thing for me is that they are working on the animations. Which is big because right now animations is the number one horrid thing in LibreOffice. If they can fix this aspect then the office suite will be instantly tons more usable.
We tried using Libre Base in combination with PostgreSQL for a company that wants Access like functionality but the data in PostgreSQL db's. The goal is to have the data not scattered on shares but on maintained servers.
It seemed OK, but as soon as you have created tables with Libre Base, you can't edit the tables anymore using Libre Base. When this works we may try again.
I use it everyday it came down the pipeline for the Linux desktop yesterday version 4.2.8.2. My dad who lives hundreds of miles away also uses it every day although I do not know what for. He uses Windows 7 pro and LibreOffice 6.1, his mind is not what it used to be and he is stubborn and opens all those e-mail micro-viruses, almost on a daily basis so it is lucky he is not using Microsoft office.
I cannot get him to use a almost useless Linux desktop, because he does not like change and can get very annoyed if you attempt to alter things.
LibreOffice, has become very politically correct I do not like to see "the team gay Italians, and 70% women" quota. What happened to just being people.
I like LibreOffice, but I do not care to know about the people behind it.
People please just be people. You slogan wearing isolationists are going to be sad old slogans if you do not learn to be people.
From Wikipedia
Parliament is an American brand of cigarettes, currently owned and manufactured by Philip Morris USA in the United States and Philip Morris International outside of the United States. Wikipedia
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
I just updated to 6.1.4 yesterday, to patch a security flaw. Later in the same day they have a new major release? Bah.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
I use lots of comments in my spreadsheets, and the comment indicator in Calc is blocking some of the cell content. I'm sticking to v4.3.7.2, the last version with a less intrusive comment indicator.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91415
I am generally annoyed with gratuitous icon changes - but in this case it seems like they (mostly) maintained recognizability, while improving legibility, which should be especially nice for those who choose to use smaller icon sizes. Can't tell you how annoyed I get about projects that go for the monochrome icon b.s. - icons are important functional components that must be easy to recognize, and they remove one of the most dramatic differentiating features for an arguable improvement in aesthetics?
You can say that again. Prime example of the moment being Blender, a massive, popular open source graphics app with hundreds of icons, no less. They are re-designing their icons in black and white designs for their major new version that is expected to make a big splash on this market segment, and it's caused pretty big arguments...
https://blenderartists.org/t/n...
KDE's desktop can be fully scaled and uses only vector graphics since KDE 4. I’m pretty sure others do it too nowadays.
The reason bitmap icons aren't scaled is because traditionally, they were so small, that they weren't like images that you could just scale, but stylized pixel art pictograms that would be ruined by any resampling. (Which is why SCUMMVM uses those amazing upscalring filters.)
And it just never got changed, especially in the Windows world.
Microsoft Office doesn't offer the compatibility its proponents claim. I've seen a lot of documents that don't render the same way across successive versions of Microsoft Office, so forward compatibility is shot. Microsoft Office 365 won't load and render all of the documents Microsoft Office 2016 (with all updates) will generate, so compatibility across current versions is not there either. Word also isn't designed for large documents; I never would have advised using Microsoft Word to begin this documentation project, but I wasn't asked when the project began so now the question is what to do with this huge document that doesn't work as it should on Microsoft's OS (either Windows 7 or 10) running Microsoft's word processor with all of Microsoft's updates applied.
A few weeks ago a Word user generated a multi-hundred page document with Word from Microsoft Office 2016 and she was stuck with choosing between watching Word 2016/32-bit crash relatively slowly when editing the document (so she had some time to make a few edits and then watch the app die), Word 2016/64-bit crash more quickly, or Word/Office365 render the document so far away from anything reasonable it wasn't worth using. LibreOffice Writer also didn't render the document perfectly, but it did not crash so it was wiser to spend time fixing the lack of fidelity there and continue using LibreOffice than not knowing when the entire app would die and take the last edits after the most recent save with it.
So I'm not convinced that even within Microsoft their programmers have written code to properly support even the currently-supported variants of Word documents. I have found this to be true across every version of Microsoft Office, this is not news to me. When considering the cost of Microsoft Office365, consider how much it will cost you to lose fidelity of documents even within Microsoft's proprietary software. I believe that cost is too high: I wouldn't trust any document I cared about to a program that locked me into their way of doing things. There's just too much at risk on top of the awful anti-user problems facing all proprietary software users.
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