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NYT Reporter 'Ditched My Phone and Unbroke My Brain' (msn.com)

"It's an unnerving sensation, being alone with your thoughts in the year 2019," writes New York Times technology columnist Kevin Roose, in an article shared by DogDude. "I don't love referring to what we have as an 'addiction.' That seems too sterile and clinical to describe what's happening to our brains in the smartphone era." We might someday evolve the correct biological hardware to live in harmony with portable supercomputers that satisfy our every need and connect us to infinite amounts of stimulation. But for most of us, it hasn't happened yet... [S]ometime last year, I crossed the invisible line into problem territory. My symptoms were all the typical ones: I found myself incapable of reading books, watching full-length movies or having long uninterrupted conversations. Social media made me angry and anxious, and even the digital spaces I once found soothing (group texts, podcasts, YouTube k-holes) weren't helping...

Mostly, I became aware of how profoundly uncomfortable I am with stillness. For years, I've used my phone every time I've had a spare moment in an elevator or a boring meeting. I listen to podcasts and write emails on the subway. I watch YouTube videos while folding laundry. I even use an app to pretend to meditate. If I was going to repair my brain, I needed to practice doing nothing.

Another science journalist helped him through "phone rehab," and "now, the physical world excites me, too -- the one that has room for boredom, idle hands and space for thinking." After a final 48 hour digital detox, "I also felt twinges of anger -- at myself, for missing out on this feeling of restorative boredom for so many years; at the engineers in Silicon Valley who spend their days profitably exploiting our cognitive weaknesses; at the entire phone-industrial complex that has convinced us that a six-inch glass-and-steel rectangle is the ideal conduit for worldly experiences...

"Steve Jobs wasn't exaggerating when he described the iPhone as a kind of magical object, and it's truly wild that in the span of a few years, we've managed to turn these amazing talismanic tools into stress-inducing albatrosses. It's as if scientists had invented a pill that gave us the ability to fly, only to find out that it also gave us dementia."

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  1. Someday... by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We might someday evolve the correct biological hardware to live in harmony with portable supercomputers that satisfy our every need and connect us to infinite amounts of stimulation. But for most of us, it hasn't happened yet...

    For others of us, it happened a long time ago. I grew up computing, I met my first girlfriend in a BBS chat way way back in 1993 or so, and the internets are my happy place. Maybe that's the difference?

    [S]ometime last year, I crossed the invisible line into problem territory. My symptoms were all the typical ones: I found myself incapable of reading books, watching full-length movies or having long uninterrupted conversations.

    I find I can still do all of those things happily, but the people around me can't manage any of them. And I'm plugged in more or less constantly.

    Social media made me angry and anxious, and even the digital spaces I once found soothing (group texts, podcasts, YouTube k-holes) weren't helping...

    You're using them wrong. Stop watching stuff that pisses you off.

    I put a rubber band around the device, for example, and changed my lock screen to one that showed three questions to ask myself every time I unlocked my phone: âoeWhat for? Why now? What else?â

    That would drive me nuts. My memory has always been craptacular, and I'd forget what I wanted to look up while I was thinking about "what else".

    How about just selectively omitting the outrage porn that seems to be the big problem for most people? Drop Vice first, bunch of sensationalist wankers. Gawker used to be the big problem, but then HULKAMANIA RULED.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    1. Re:Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah its weird, I grew up connected, early 90s AOL and was hooked immediately. I've been over social media for nearly a decade. I rarely log in, maybe 3 or 4 times a year. Youtube on the otherhand has DESTROYED TV for me. But im not really sure thats a bad thing. I watch tech, wood working and car stuff. I was able to change my clutch purely from Youtube, I feel like its an evolution of media. Going back to TV is like going back to dialup.

    2. Re:Someday... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 0

      I suspect this is a real problem, but specific to New York Times reporters and their ilk.

    3. Re:Someday... by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We might someday evolve the correct biological hardware to live in harmony with portable supercomputers that satisfy our every need and connect us to infinite amounts of stimulation. But for most of us, it hasn't happened yet...

      For others of us, it happened a long time ago. I grew up computing, I met my first girlfriend in a BBS chat way way back in 1993 or so, and the internets are my happy place. Maybe that's the difference?

      I've spent.... well, a considerable amount of time in front of a computer, on the Internet and on my smartphone. When I first got my smartphone I got more or less addicted to Angry Birds, like if there was ever a dull moment I was on my phone. I don't like being bored, but never being bored brought my tolerance down to nothing. Like if a movie or a conversation had a dull moment, I'd want to pick up my phone and fill it with something. It was almost like inflicting on yourself an attention deficit disorder, even though I've never had one in the past.

      Truth is, the only reason society accepts that is that automation has pretty much eliminated all the extremely routine tasks. I remember making firewood with my dad, it was pretty much the same over and over - fell a tree, cut it into segments, break down those segments into sticks of firewood. Over and over and over again. It was productive, but it was never exciting. It used to be totally legitimate work, here's an axe so swing it to chop firewood. Chop. Chop. Chop. Chop. We had a gas driven chopper but it was still like do this 1000x. And it was somehow okay, today I'd die from boredom.

      --
      Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
    4. Re:Someday... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Social media made me angry and anxious, and even the digital spaces I once found soothing (group texts, podcasts, YouTube k-holes) weren't helping...

      You're using them wrong. Stop watching stuff that pisses you off.

      This is my personal bias, obviously, but - I think when people talk about being "addicted to their cell phones" they are really talking about being addicted to the constant feedback loop of social media. It can even happen here on Slashdot... ever find yourself checking your comments multiple times, looking to see if you've gotten any new replies?

      I'm not consistent about it, but I do try to limit my time spent with social technology. I gave up Facebook a number of years ago when it became obvious that 1) Zuckerberg is basically an evil manipulative person, and 2) the constant, shallow social sharing wasn't really keeping me in touch with people in any meaningful way. I use Twitter only sporadically, and mainly as a consumer of sports news. Honestly, the one that's giving me the most trouble is right here on this website... I'm here more than I probably should be, but I also think Slashdot is fairly benign - and I do occasionally learn something here.

      --
      #DeleteChrome
    5. Re:Someday... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It can even happen here on Slashdot... ever find yourself checking your comments multiple times, looking to see if you've gotten any new replies?

      Hell yes, I've been doing it today. But then, I've been doing laundry, and being interrupted repeatedly in other ways as well. I can't concentrate on anything important, so I'm Slashdotting, among other things.

      I'm here more than I probably should be, but I also think Slashdot is fairly benign - and I do occasionally learn something here.

      Yep, every so often, you find a gemstone between your toes while you march through the field of cow pies. I actually learn a lot on Facebook these days, but it's a function of which groups I spend my time in. I also do a lot of teaching, which doesn't make me any money, but does generate goodwill — and makes the world a better place. I could choose to spend all my Fb time getting pissed off, but that's not how I choose to use it.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    6. Re: Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I have done the same thing, even though it wasn't until much later (2005 ish) that I first got online.

      I do it because I really can't stand the ads on TV any more. To watch an hour long show, it feels like I am forced to watch 30 minutes or more of commercials. That has destroyed people's ability to focus more than anything else. And having cut back to almost not watching TV at all, I have noticed that I simply lack the endurance to sit through so much crap. It has to be built up to in order for people not to notice it and once they stop building up their tolerance and it goes back to normal, it becomes jarring to watch.

      I watch movie channels and PBS stuff but that's it. Everything else I either stream online or watch on YouTube or Twitch. I lost the tolerance to physically or mentally endure it elsewhere.

    7. Re: Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When I did stuff like that, my mind wandered and I could imagine all kinds of stuff. The more free time I had, the more imaginative I became and the less bored.

      I couldn't imagine being in a world where imagination was lost and constant stimulation from outside stuff was required to stave off boredom. Who has the energy for that?

    8. Re:Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell no I don't check my comments. I'm a fucking coward! lol

      And Fuckerberg isn't even allowed on my network, much less my phone or life.

      It's all just a bunch of losers who can't manage a tool. They suck at life. It's not the phone's fault anymore than alcoholism is the fault of beer companies.

    9. Re:Someday... by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      First rule of internet chat: never turn on message notifications.

      Maybe they replied, maybe they didn't. Who cares? If I have time when I'm clicking on it, I'll click on it. If not, not.

    10. Re: Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DVR what you want to watch and skip the commercials.

    11. Re: Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not going to bother with it. Once I stopped watching stuff, I realized how how unimportant it was.

      I can't imagine watching more than a few hours of TV a day anymore. And that includes sports. Too many ads and too little genuinely interesting stuff to want to sit and watch ads through. Plenty of other things for me to do than be a couch potato.

    12. Re: Someday... by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Bad troll. No points awarded.

    13. Re:Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fear is that you'd die from boredom, but if you would actually do that, you might find it to be liberating.
      Of course I don't know you, but in general I think it's mostly just the _fear_ of the emptiness, while in reality there are things to be found in there. Even though you might first have to fight some things you usually avoid before you get there.

    14. Re:Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now Gizmondo Media is the new Gawker, running pandering sites like Jezebel Lifehacker and Jalopy

    15. Re: Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This reporter is a total moron, its you that has a real fn problem. I dont know many people who spend every second on device in someone elses life that they cant get time to think for themselves. No duh its an nyt reporter, how am i not a bit surprised at the epic mind rot.

    16. Re: Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watching TV for a few hours a day IS being a couch potato.

    17. Re:Someday... by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      Stop watching stuff that pisses you off.

      Pretty sure you hit it right there.

      I've been plugged in since the late 80s and on my device for many hours a day. Was never interested in Social Media stuff but had a Facebook login from back in the day. I would log in once every couple months and add any "friends" that found me.

      About a year ago I suddenly found that I was logging into Facebook several times a day to read political stuff that showed up on my feed. I started to get more agitated in general and got sucked into various FB political arguments that no one was ever going to win.

      After six months of this, I deleted the Facebook app from my phone and stopped going to the website. I regained my calm quite quickly.

      FB really does tend to amplify the grief and frustration that people feel in real life. I haven't deleted my Facebook account yet, but I've only logged in once this year so far.

      --
      Help! I'm a slashdot refugee.
    18. Re:Someday... by ZorinLynx · · Score: 1

      I've tried telling people this; stop reading things that piss you off, etc. and they turn it around saying that it's important to remain informed politically because we are in dire times.

      While that may be true, there's a difference between remaining informed and constantly seeing the information every waking hour until you get angry and it adds stress to your life. There's very little any of us can do about politics, so there's no point in upsetting ourselves about it.

      I've found a happy medium, staying informed but not making it my life, and it works for me. The sad thing is some of my friends are still all-in so it's hard to follow them online without being exposed to that stuff 24/7. It feels like choosing between being at peace and staying in touch with friends.

    19. Re:Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do occasionally learn something here.

      You're doing something wrong then.

    20. Re:Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Notifications are useful, but I generally turn off the sound and vibration for pretty much all of them. They can wait until I choose to look at them, rather than have them interrupt what I'm doing.

    21. Re:Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Started with MUDs at college, so innocent, broke 3 days without sleep while playing Diablo with friends.
      What one should learn is our human limitations and that at some point you need to discriminate, that means NO, choosing hiking over sitting at a chair 24 hours.
      There've been deaths over this, so one MUST learn this one way or another..

      Take up yoga. Hiking. Think. Enjoy nature. Drink some fresh water. Clean your lungs. Meditate. Read books. Talk to diverse people. Expand your mind and connect with life. You can still pursue your interests at a PC.

      Just don't be a zombie.

    22. Re:Someday... by epine · · Score: 1

      How about just selectively omitting the outrage porn that seems to be the big problem for most people?

      Spectacular algorithm. If you know that drinking three pints and three whiskey shooters per day makes you feel unwell, try drinking four pints and two whiskey shooters (do you really think that spooling some yellow police tape around the outrage-porn crop circle would result in less total consumption?)

      And if that's not enough, I'm sure you'll propose getting rid of another whiskey shooter. (To also be replaced by another pint of beer.) This could even work: someone might actually feel somewhat better drinking six pints, instead of three and three. Possibly even enough better to blithely continue consuming six pints a day for another three years.

      Algorithmic manta:

      If at first you break the camel's back, try first removing the heaviest straw. Iterate until camel's back bends horrifically, but without any ghastly snapping sounds.

      ———

      I once tried Twitter for a month. And I enjoyed it a tiny bit, when I was following three people. But as soon as I started following ten people—all people who are serious thinkers—the hurly-burly randomness of my feed started to make my brain hurt. Then I found out that Twitter offers no controls to keep like-with-like, and so I immediately dumped it with extreme prejudice.

      As I see it, rage porn is a side show. The actual problem is excessive context switching. Research shows (almost without exception) that everyone suffers under excess context switching, though some people have done this for so long, they no longer even knows what it feels like to have those other gears working again: insensate like a chronic alcoholic, for whom less hungover seems like fantastic progress—so long as it doesn't involve less drunk.

    23. Re:Someday... by mjwx · · Score: 1

      We might someday evolve the correct biological hardware to live in harmony with portable supercomputers that satisfy our every need and connect us to infinite amounts of stimulation. But for most of us, it hasn't happened yet...

      For others of us, it happened a long time ago. I grew up computing, I met my first girlfriend in a BBS chat way way back in 1993 or so, and the internets are my happy place. Maybe that's the difference?

      [S]ometime last year, I crossed the invisible line into problem territory. My symptoms were all the typical ones: I found myself incapable of reading books, watching full-length movies or having long uninterrupted conversations.

      I find I can still do all of those things happily, but the people around me can't manage any of them. And I'm plugged in more or less constantly.

      Social media made me angry and anxious, and even the digital spaces I once found soothing (group texts, podcasts, YouTube k-holes) weren't helping...

      You're using them wrong. Stop watching stuff that pisses you off.

      This, a thousand times this.

      Not in the history of public media have we ever had so much control over what we do and do not see.

      It's not like the bad old days where you could accidentally be exposed to things because they were broadcast, in the 90's you didn't have any control if Rikki Lake or Peirs Morgan came onto your television set. That decision was made by someone else and if it pissed you off you couldn't change it. Because TV pissed me off so much I stopped watching it. With the internet, content comes to you, you decide what you watch, you customise your feeds. Everything is within your power, right up to and including using local mods and extensions to customise the code that you display(I.E. an adblock, blocking ads).

      So please let me correct the headline:
      NYT reporter seeks to get his name recognised by failing to understand technology and printing absolute bollocks.

      Kevin Roose, your brain is even more broken because you have refused to learn.

      --
      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
    24. Re: Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it? For several years in my life, my weekends consisted of spending 8-10 hours out and about during the day, with a few hours of TV when I was home.

      And by "out and about", I mean walking 20 km. Each day. That's hard to reconcile with being a couch potato.

    25. Re: Someday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was it uphill, both ways? Btw, we all loved the piece on you in The Onion.

      How do you ask if someone doesn't watch TV?
      You don't. They'll tell you.

  2. Happy medium... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

    Happy medium ... keep the phone as a communication device, ditch the data plan. Meaning that "going online" is no longer effortless -- outside of your usual spaces (work, school, home), you have to make an effort to seek out public WiFi and connect to it.

    1. Re:Happy medium... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Added bonus, it's CHEAP to just have voice/text. Like $10-20 per month, not $50-70.

    2. Re: Happy medium... by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      I only pay $35 with no contract for voice with enough data that I have never hit the cap. I think it's 5gb.

    3. Re: Happy medium... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      $15-20 and deliberately turning off data (see parent post) is better for this situation.

    4. Re:Happy medium... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      keep the data plan, phone is useful tool sometimes. happy medium, just turn the ring/alert volume off and read a book or do exercise.

    5. Re:Happy medium... by Octorian · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately most communication done on a phone pretty much requires the data plan.
      Okay, with the exception of non-VOIP voice (which many don't like doing anymore) and SMS (which only Americans w/o foreign friends/relatives think is good... everyone else in the world uses some sort of data-based messaging solution).

    6. Re:Happy medium... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      ... which all work over wifi as well.

    7. Re: Happy medium... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In India: Costs $2 per month for unlimited talk and texts with 1.5 GB data per DAY, before throttling.

    8. Re: Happy medium... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posting as AC as modded a comment (as funny) on this thread.

      But... I pay Oz$249 a year for my phone plan (and I own my phone).

      https://www.aldimobile.com.au/...

      80 gigs plus the 50+ gigs that I rolled over from the previous year, seems pretty generous to me.
      Unlimited talk and text within Godzone.

      If you have Aldi in your country, it might be worth checking if they offer phone plans?

      DethLok

    9. Re: Happy medium... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here in a civilized Communist county, I pay $14/mo for 60GB of 4G data. It's fast, reliable, and has great coverage.

      Maybe, just maybe, the phone carrier cartel are ripping you off... just maybe.

    10. Re:Happy medium... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I have no problem with the data-plan. Main uses: Access my calendar (read only), occasionally check my email, like 3-4 times a day and use the phone as a hot-spot for my laptop. I also carry old-fashioned paper and that is what I used to make notes in meetings.

      The online-junkies are really doing it to themselves. Time for them to grow up.

      --
      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    11. Re: Happy medium... by bn-7bc · · Score: 1

      just for a bit of context, what country is that,I need to look up the median icome to see if that is actually as hheap as il looks compareed to plams here in Norway, I suspect it might be

  3. like... omg... this is just -SO- brave of him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He did what? He put his phone away?

    and then WROTE ABOUT IT?

    cutting edge journalism

  4. Hard for some, not for others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For me, my phone literally only serve as a way to help pass time when I literally have nothing better to do and I'm out of the house. And even there, all I do with it is just read novels. I tried getting into a few games over the years, never could get into it. I'd play maybe a few hours in the first day or two, and then never touch it again. I don't understand people who spend all their time playing craptastic mobile games... or spend hours and hours watching youtube/netflix on their tiny screen instead of using a large TV/monitor.

    1. Re: Hard for some, not for others by illiac_1962 · · Score: 1

      They hate thier boring bullshit jobs and have no aspirations or enriching hobbies. Don't hate on em, they living lives of quiet desperation.

  5. Stockholm Syndrome by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 2

    I can already predict the defensive hue and cry against this reporter's message.

    1. Re:Stockholm Syndrome by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or, maybe some of us just see the phone as a useful tool, and aren't enslaved by the damned thing.

      Seriously, how many "I'm abandoning x technology/platform/company" have we read about in the past few months? Is 2019's theme going to be tech reporters telling us how they unplugged because they don't have the mental fortitude to say "no" to whatever they're breathlessly consuming at the expense of their well-being?

      --
      Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
    2. Re:Stockholm Syndrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The people you're reading about actually have developed the mental fortitude required – that's why they were able to self-identify a behavioral problem and fix it. It's usually written up as a warning to the people who don't.

  6. "Portable supercomputers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bitch it's a facebook appliance. A $250 laptop is five times the "computer" your phone is.

    1. Re:"Portable supercomputers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Call me with your nonexistent phone once your laptop has 24 hours of battery life.

    2. Re: "Portable supercomputers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Call my from your laptop when you find a phone that _actually_ gets 24 hours of battery life.

    3. Re: "Portable supercomputers" by illiac_1962 · · Score: 1

      My phone goes for days. Sony Experia unlocked. Best phone I have had since my Nokia 920 Windows phone.

  7. Right, the engineers by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

    at the engineers in Silicon Valley who spend their days profitably exploiting our cognitive weaknesses

    If they were that good at that, I bet the 'socially awkward nerd' stereotype would have reversed itself a decade ago. It's not the engineers you have to worry about.

    1. Re:Right, the engineers by Solandri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      TFA author suffers from an issue which I've seen afflict a lot of the Millennial generation - blaming everyone and everything for their problems except themselves. He blames social media, the phone, the engineers who built it, etc.

      The problem is you. Lots of us manage balanced lives using our electronic gadgets without being obsessively dependent on them. I forgot to bring my phone with me to work and shopping yesterday, and didn't have access to it until about 8pm. It was a little inconvenient, but no big deal. If you're unable to do that and are going into what are basically withdrawal symptoms when you disconnect, *you* have a problem. And the first step to recovery is admitting that you have a problem. Only after you've identified the true source of your problem, is recovery possible. As long as you keep blaming other people and other things instead of yourself, you won't be addressing the true cause of the problem, so you'll never be able to resolve it.

    2. Re:Right, the engineers by dcw3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly. Do you carry your phone around when you're at home? Is it always by your side? If so, you are the problem...not the phone.

      --
      Just another day in Paradise
    3. Re:Right, the engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean did you read the article? It literally starts with "My name is Kevin, and I have a phone problem." The whole article is the author owning the problem as his own. The anger thing was a phase while he was going through withdrawl.
      But also, just because you aren't addicted to prescription pain killers would you say there there isn't a problem with opioid abuse in the US? Is everything down to personal responsibility or is it maybe possible that some products have been designed or marketed irresponsibly?

    4. Re:Right, the engineers by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Exactly. Do you carry your phone around when you're at home? Is it always by your side? If so, you are the problem...not the phone.

      ^^^^This this this.

      That's always been kind of a secret litmus test for me- does a person carry their phone on them everywhere all the time, even at home? Is it always always always in reach?

      If so, that tells me something about them, and it's almost never a positive thing.

      --
      Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
    5. Re:Right, the engineers by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Could not agree more. And anyways, it is not "the engineers", it would be marketing people and designers.

      --
      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    6. Re: Right, the engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The "socially awkward nerd" stereotype is very much liked by the media because it's profitable, but real engineers are actually very good socially-wise. They're fun to hang around with, they have many interests and enjoy sports and social life. Real nerds are a nightmare: self-centered, obsessed, asocial and loud with a chip on their shoulder the size of mount Everest. Those lovable goofy geniuses you see on TV are just a fantasy.

    7. Re:Right, the engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So basically drug addicts have a problem (I concur) so we shouldn't blame the drug makers for making the drugs available (I disagree)?

    8. Re:Right, the engineers by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      When am I supposed to leave it at home according to you? When I'm out doing stuff, like running errands or riding my bike, I'm not using social networking. But I may still want to use the GPS function, or take a photo, and I can't do that if I don't bring it with me. Slashdot can wait until I get home, unless I find myself sitting around the car dealership while I'm waiting for service, in which case I might as well slashbot.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    9. Re:Right, the engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd say it's at least also the doctors or the medical financing structures.
      You have an issue and go to a doctor you trust to help you, he gives you addictive crap while it's not necessary. Boom, now you have two issues. Thanks doctor!
      It might get in the way of US' free speech for people + corporations are people principles, but I believe that here in Netherlands it's illegal for drug makers to advertise, and to bribe doctors. That way doctors have no incentive to do something else than they are supposed to do.
      Then drug makers can make whatever they want, but the decision to use what they make, is more based on the actual benefits, instead of manipulation by advertising/bribes.

    10. Re:Right, the engineers by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      I don't see what you're complaining about, other than just using this as an opportunity to whine about the damn kids these days. The author identified what was causing them issues and took steps to address it. Oh, look:

      [S]ometime last year, I crossed the invisible line into problem territory

      Admitted he has a problem.

      I've used my phone every time I've had a spare moment in an elevator or a boring meeting. I listen to podcasts and write emails on the subway. I watch YouTube videos while folding laundry. I even use an app to pretend to meditate.

      Identified the issue causing it

      Catherine encouraged me to set up mental speed bumps so that I would be forced to think for a second before engaging with my phone. I put a rubber band around the device, for example, and changed my lock screen to one that showed three questions to ask myself every time I unlocked my phone: âoeWhat for? Why now? What else?â

      And took steps to address it.

      It's not a huge conspiracy, but Facebook, twitter and others absolutely try to get you to spend as much time as possible on their platforms, because you're profit to them.

    11. Re:Right, the engineers by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      When am I supposed to leave it at home according to you?

      We weren't talking about leaving it at home- just the opposite.

      We were specifically discussing people that can't put the phone down at home, carrying it around with them from room to room while they presumably do other things, but who are still constantly fiddling with their phone at the same time. Pretty much the exact opposite of what you asked above.

      When I go out I take my phone with me (always), but when I'm at home it just sits on a counter, I don't carry it around with me at home.

      --
      Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
    12. Re:Right, the engineers by apoc.famine · · Score: 2

      Yep. I'm always blown away by people who lie awake in bed messing around on their phone until they pass out way too late, only to wake up and lie there messing around on their phone until they're late getting up too. (See the twitter in chief for a great example.)

      If your phone and social media is the first and last thing you see every day while in bed, yeah, you personally have a god damn problem.

      And if adults have this issue, their kids likely have no chance. If you can't put your phone down for any length of time, there's no way you'll be able to get your kids to. You're teaching them that the imaginary online world is far more important than the real world around them.

      --
      Velociraptor = Distiraptor / Timeraptor
    13. Re: Right, the engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. The issue wasn't the phone, the phone was just the medium.
      Yes, removing it helped him get his shit together, but he still hasn't addressed the fundamental personality issues which allowed "the phone" to consume his life.

    14. Re:Right, the engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great speech, but it turns out that a whole lot more of America than your favorite punching bag generation is going to need to admit that it has a problem. Hordes of retired folks on Facebook do the same thing, to the point of arguing for hours with strangers for sport at 3am. It's endemic.

    15. Re:Right, the engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks." – Mark Zuckerberg, the guy who originally engineered Facebook after making a hot or not site to rate his classmates, using pilfered images without anyone's consent. Yeah, okay, sure, the software folks are fine.

    16. Re: Right, the engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how would one do that? It sounds like you're more interested in laying moral blame.

    17. Re:Right, the engineers by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I carry mine in my shirt pocket, and normally do wear a shirt. Technically, that's not at my side, but it's easily available. I'm also perfectly capable of ignoring it.

      Of course, if I'm reading a book, it's quite likely to be through the Nook app on my phone. (I've had too many problems with the eInk Nooks.) Let's see, reading books is good, using a phone is bad....

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    18. Re:Right, the engineers by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      If I have a phone problem, it'll just have to wait in line with my other problems. I've got a fairly impressive list of problems by now.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    19. Re:Right, the engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're teaching them that the imaginary online world is far more important than the real world around them.

      Plot twist: it's the same world.

    20. Re: Right, the engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In drinkypoo's defense, he got distracted by a notification from his phone while he was trying to hateread yours. So it isn't his fault he is dead ducking wrong. Again.

    21. Re: Right, the engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know. There are a lot of "Sheldons" on this site for example. Just minus the girlfriend, good hygiene and smarts.

  8. Maybe it's you by raind · · Score: 1

    And not your phone? It should be just a tool?

    --
    Get up!
  9. You're doing it wrong by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

    I even use an app to pretend to meditate. If I was going to repair my brain, I needed to practice doing nothing.

    Practicing doing nothing is, well, a part of actually meditating. So:

    • an app is available that *simulates* something you were actually supposed to be doing
    • you used it as a *substitute* for that thing, and couldn't figure out that it wasn't helping
    • ...
    • and you report for the New York Times?
  10. Self-focus unaffected by Kohath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are all NYT reporters this full of themselves? Or is this particular person just pretending because it makes for a more dramatic essay?

    1. Re:Self-focus unaffected by Octorian · · Score: 1

      Every few weeks it seems like some reporter somewhere was assigned the task of ditching some specific ubiquitous tech thing for a week or two, and then writing an inspirational article about their experience. After which they probably resume using it and go about their normal lives.

    2. Re:Self-focus unaffected by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      He got us to look...that's his job. More revenue for the rag.

      --
      Just another day in Paradise
    3. Re:Self-focus unaffected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Are all NYT reporters this full of themselves?

      Well, there was one who invented all their stories for I think a year or something, so... yeah.

    4. Re:Self-focus unaffected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are all NYT reporters this full of themselves? Or is this particular person just pretending because it makes for a more dramatic essay?

      You don't have to be full of yourself to write $50 clickbait articles, but it helps if you write in such a way that readers who are full of themselves relate to it.

    5. Re:Self-focus unaffected by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, yes they are. Look at this interview with an NYT journalist and Joe Rogan. She is so full of herself and 100% convinced she is *right about everything*. She is used to being in an echo chamber and is badly affected by Rogan asking her questions about what she believes. She smears Tulsi Gabbard for being a Russian sycohpant, and then can't tell us what a sycophant is.

      I love how she thinks Tulsi's stance on gay rights as an indoctrinated teenager, prior to her political career, is somehow pertinent, but Hillary's anti-gay and racist positions, in office, as a grown-ass politician, for most of her adult life, are somehow unfair to bring up.ï

      The NYT journalist uses words without knowing what they mean, and she is in an influential position at the New York Times. This explains a lot.

      --
      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    6. Re:Self-focus unaffected by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      When I was a kid they'd do the same thing, but they had to wear a blindfold for a month to go without their eyes. Then they'd take it off, and go about their normal lives.

      Sometimes wags would question it, but they'll only shame you for being small-minded if you go that route.

    7. Re: Self-focus unaffected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try reading The Guardian, if you want to start yelling at your phone. "Snowflake Journalism"... not my words.

    8. Re:Self-focus unaffected by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      No, usually they're made into editors if they're smug enough.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0...

      --
      -Styopa
    9. Re: Self-focus unaffected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do right wing nutjobs and other division spewing hypocrites always try to show conflict about nuanced differences in the center/left as if their guy wasn't setting fire to the room while we discuss the advantages of fire extinguishers vs over head sprinklers?

      I swear, it is like someone not liking Batman for breaking the law by punching criminals, and saying that is why they vote for the Joker. As if that guy isn't breaking the same laws, along with other laws, and just straight up murdering people with laughing gas? Reasonable people should vote to replace Gordon and Dent, not for the narcissistic sociopath in bad makeup and a fancy suit...

  11. Try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try to print that article and see how really bad it is.

  12. weak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from the summary: "I also felt twinges of anger -- at myself, for missing out on this feeling of restorative boredom for so many years; at the engineers in Silicon Valley who spend their days profitably exploiting our cognitive weaknesses..."

    You're weak and in more ways than cognitively. Don't blame engineers or others for your weakness.

  13. Sounds like by Berkyjay · · Score: 1

    Someone with a serious lack of self control who wants to blame their devices rather than themselves.

    1. Re:Sounds like by Memnos · · Score: 1

      There's an app for that.

      --
      I don't trust atoms -- they make up stuff.
    2. Re:Sounds like by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Well, is addiction a disease, or a choice? The situation clearly begins with choices.

    3. Re:Sounds like by Berkyjay · · Score: 1

      I'm not personally convinced that he has an addiction. I'd classify it more as a neurosis than a disease. Chemical dependencies are closer to diseases, which is why the medical community prefers to label addictions as a disease. But I feel that addiction gets over and misused these days and this is one instance of that. This dude just needs a bit of therapy and a good vacation. Not a lifetime of struggle.

    4. Re:Sounds like by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      And yet, nobody has any citations, because the experiment is still running.

      Personally, I'm just glad that I refused in the first place because "No way in hell you need my phone's ID just to connect to a web service! No, no, and no!"

      The zombies are no longer human. They used to be human. Blaming them doesn't actually mean that they can change back. Maybe some can. I'm not convinced.

    5. Re:Sounds like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the dopamine and other associated chemicals coming up from the experience of getting a "like" or "friend" or initiating a "righteous" ban via mob rule on social media, maybe the chemical dependency is invisible.

      Not to say that it has nothing to do with free will, but some people have been shown to be more genetically susceptible to addiction behaviour and chemical dependency in various studies.

      This may be no different.

    6. Re:Sounds like by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Most of us have limited self-control, and compensate for it in various ways. If I make something less available, it isn't the something's fault; it's because I don't want the temptation.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  14. Trumptards like Dogdude are losing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Notice since the midterms there's suddenly a cry from the right that we need to all just get along, be bipartisan, understand each others' viewpoints, etc? Trumptards, like Dogdoo, are losing and they know it. Now they're all crying about the kids and social media and how we need to "detox". Bullpussy! Social media is where all the dissenting and unapproved news is coming from. They want you to go outside into the "real" world so they can feed you the offical "correct" news from their ads, their newspapers, their radio, and their TV. They want don't want you to know what's really going on. They're losing the battle for the young voters and they know their days are numbered. You didn't hear this shit from the right when they had all the power. They didn't 2 turtle shits what you cared about, they did whatever the fuck they wanted. Now they can't and they're throwing a shit fit and trying to broker false peace. Fuck em.

    CRY MOAR TRUMPTARDS!

    1. Re:Trumptards like Dogdude are losing by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 0

      Trump Derangement. Textbook example. You're defining reality according to your mourning of Clinton and the DNC machine's defeat. Keep on keeping on, I guess.

    2. Re:Trumptards like Dogdude are losing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OP AC here: You DID NOT in any way, shape, form, or fashion explain or justify what the republican party is doing. Somehow it is my fault that the GOP has been a bunch of stalemating assholes because the Democrats have some bullshit thing you made up called TDS. Yeah, sure, that makes perfect fucking sense. So your idea is that because I somehow am still pissed about Clinton losing, it has made the republicans be assholes. THEY choose what they want to do, not me. Personal responsibility. Ever heard of it? I know there's a group of people in this country pontificating on it daily but I just can't remember who that is...

      Please continue. Your tears sustain me.

  15. Re: NYT reporter blames phone instead of TDS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trustin Timber on YouTube. Professional photographer. Travelled the world. Met tons of powerful, intelligent, beuatiful people. And many more who were not.

    Gave it up to live in a tree farm in Canada who now builds his own stuff.

    And there are many, many, manyyy more like him.

    Social media and devices used to connect people to them were set up, knowingly or not, with drug dealing networks business models. To get introduced to it is free, then after a time you are charged for it. The "ideal" path is to get you addicted to it so that when you are charged for it, you won't stop using it. The trick is to obfuscate its addiction and/or downplay it and to take efforts to continually update its addictive elements so that a tolerance doesn't build up.

    Younger people who have grown up experiencing social media tend to have one of two approaches to it. It is either not a problem at all (narcissist stage/playground) or it is incredibly scummy but necessary as most of the rest of society utilizes and idolizes it and the amount of money people can make off it.

    Old people tend to ignor it as they don't usually fully appreciate what it is. See a Twitch stream of a girl in Russia playing a video game. It's harmless they think. They don't know that that girl is likely a part of a group that are all forced to live together and sleep paired up in rooms. A modern version or prostitution completel with male pimp/handler overseeing all the girls streaming video. And from there, when viewership drops, they get get shuffled into actual prostititution, complete with introduced drug problems.

    The Russian (or whoever, it is just as likely in the US) girl is a part of a "legitimate" side of organised crime. The goal is to get money, IDs, addiction to the product.

  16. No, it's not by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

    "It's an unnerving sensation, being alone with your thoughts in the year 2019," writes New York Times technology columnist Kevin RooseM

    No, it's not...unless you don't have a brain that can amuse or entertain itself.

    --
    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
    1. Re:No, it's not by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I for one can still worry about whether there's something wrong with me whether I'm playing with my phone or not. Perhaps some people can't multitask. I'm not saying I do it well, mind you. I might only be able to be half as disturbed my by thoughts as usual, but that's plenty to work up a good head of self-loathing.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    2. Re:No, it's not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hope you know how to defuse that self-loathing somewhat. Using computers is one way, but sometimes it isn't enough.

      Exercise helps me so long as I've worked up a bit of a sweat. Didn't think it would really make any difference, trying to exercise felt pointless, but I was wrong. It's a good way of sneaking up from behind on those crappy feelings and breaking up the way typical depression works. (IANAP, but self-loathing isn't fun IME.)

    3. Re:No, it's not by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I like exercise, but since I crushed my toe it's hard to do anything but bike, and it's been mad rainy of late. Hmm, and I need new pedals, I should look into that. Broke one riding with a cam walker on.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    4. Re:No, it's not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Same AC) Honestly sorry to hear that. Biking is awesome. :)

  17. Re: NYT reporter blames phone instead of TDS? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Old people tend to ignor it as they don't usually fully appreciate what it is.

    Or maybe we see it for exactly what it is, which explains our lack of interest.

    By and large I see social media as a relatively uninteresting, shallow, and not very well done. Honestly, I just don't see the point. (??)

    However, if that's your thing, I say bravo to you and carry on. Whatever floats your boat.

    --
    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
  18. HOT BREAKING NEWS! by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Breaking News: Guy goes without his phone for a while, doesn't actually die; film at 11.

    Oh wait, he already uploaded it to Twitter, Youtube and Instagram, never mind.

    --
    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
  19. I am not trapped in here with you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are trapped in here with me!

  20. NYT Reporter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brain is not going to recover no many how many phones they lose. Reporters and the like are a vile species.

  21. Zomg by TimMD909 · · Score: 1

    This story is so amazing, It'll be hard to put my phone down. Wonder how things will work out? Will the author of the article ever know? I'd send a postcard, but that seems too much... What to do...

  22. It's not you by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    " I found myself incapable of reading books, watching full-length movies or having long uninterrupted conversation"

    It's not you, it's the movies that suck.

    1. Re:It's not you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>_ " I found myself incapable of reading books, watching full-length movies or having long uninterrupted conversation"

      This is my family in the last 50 years and without phones. Maybe TV had something to do with that, but the main reason might be work; and an opinion that contemplation is loss of time (as opposed to Aristotle's view of idleness{*} as necessary).

      >_ It's not you, it's the movies that suck.

      Maybe if you check "awards" which elect ONE best foreign movie... but there are good movies being made all over the world. You don't even need to understand the original language, thanks to automatic transliteration and translation.

      {*} English is lacking in that most of the words describing "not being busy" carry a negative connotation (like "sloth" etc.). Not being busy also means "being available", "responsive", "free to think" and a lot of other positive senses. That is what has been called "cultural glasses" and one of the main reasons one should strive to read a writer's works in its original form or via a more neutral middle language (like e.g. Esperanto). Of course, this is a major problem in automatic translations.
      Also, it follows, assuming such Linguistic influence is on the table (the Sapir-Whorf "hypothesis"), everyone should learn a second language -- preferably with opposing concepts -- to widen the scope of ideas.

  23. Re: NYT reporter blames phone instead of TDS? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    "By and large I see social media as a relatively uninteresting, shallow, and not very well done."

    So, exactly like most face to face interaction!

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  24. Welcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome to the club! There's room for more, come on in!

  25. Smartphone doesn't dream of wild Bunny Girl. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > NYT Reporter: How I Ditched My Phone ... ... and met a wild Bunny Girl senpai.

    Now I can kind of understand the unexpected success of AoButa anime, which answered real-life problems that modern young people struggle with. Smartphone throw shown at 1m24s:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1PWA11Ec3E

  26. Re: NYT reporter blames phone instead of TDS? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

    "By and large I see social media as a relatively uninteresting, shallow, and not very well done."

    So, exactly like most face to face interaction!

    I suppose my definition could apply to me as well, at least according to my first wife.

    --
    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
  27. wrong - not 6 inch by bingoUV · · Score: 1

    Actually 4.5 inch glass-and-steel rectangle is the ideal conduit for worldly experiences. 4 inch is too small, 5 inch too big.

    How did this advocate of the wrong screen size even get on /. ?

    --
    Bingo Dictionary - Pragmatist, n. A myopic idealist.
  28. Learning from Gawker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They learned a lot while reading Gawker I guess, this is the style of writing on most clickbait sites. Asserting a viewpoint as if you're the first one to ever think that, acting like you're a shining knight by witnessing to those who read and scolding those who would not heed your gospel.

  29. It doesn't surprise me the least ... by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    ... that Kevin Rose has this problem. He's a fairly successful silicon valley founder and investor and as such is used to solving problems by taking action. The problem he describes however was being unable to chill the f*ck out. Strong measures such as ditching your smartphone are a good way to get closer to that goal.

    One of his buddies is the author Tim Ferriss (4-hour Workweek, etc.). Just the other week I listened to the Tim Ferriss Show Podcast were he interviews Greg McKeown and listen in to a roughly 2 hour podcast that turns into something of a coaching/therapy session for Ferriss. Very interesting. These types have a psychological condition that most of us nerds have but only roughly 10 times as much.

    Since I'm trying to advance my career I'm treading slightly in similar territory and find that one of the big problems with doing everything at once, all the time, has to do with overinflating ones own importance. A trap a founder like Kevin Rose or a super-successful author and self-marketeer as Tim Ferriss probably fall into on a daily basis.

    Conclusion:
    I totally get decomissioning a smartphone. Whenever an update is due, I always also consider going back to a robust and cheap feature phone that - on the plus side - doesn't need recharging all the time - and a Filofax and be done with it. The critical communication I need done can be done once or twice a day from whatever computing device is at hand, I really don't need a smartphone to survive. Maps and directions, work-related chat and zero-fuss linked calender and todolists do keep me with the smartphone camp though, as the convenience is a huge difference. And I feel that I can handle my addiction. To an extent that it's not an overwhelming problem that is.

    My 2 cents.

    --
    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  30. I ditched the NYT by srichard25 · · Score: 2

    Funny, because I ditched the NYT and it "Unbroke my brain".

  31. SteveJobs strove to create... by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 1

    objects people could love. Jonathan Ivie understood why people find a thing imitably attractive; by design.

    SteveJobs hated his cell phone. It had a keyboard whose keys would malfunction and break. Its screen was too small to read. It required buying a new cell phone to get the latest feature. Steve Jobs hated features. Features were an artifact leftover from the automobile industry. He thought features were a bullshit way to treat customers; a leftover from the industrial age. Built in software, he could design a phone without the marketing feature gimmicks industrialists sold. People would love a phone that was all screen, love it if buttons didn't break and had features that came "for free"; as in free beer - a software update. He expected it to be his sandbox, until developers convinced him they could make applications for Apple's iPhone. SteveJobs ever the businessman thought apps might be like songs people buy on iTunes. Pivot. AppStore gave people what they needed, smartphone apps in waves of utility. It wasn't intended to give them what they wanted – iTunes was; AppStore was its clone.

    SteveJobs understood that success was a function of under stating promises and exceeding expectations. Once apps became better written, the AppsStore literally had " an app for that" - anything you wanted. The best became extensions of our lives enabling time shift efficiency, remote presence and geometric progressions of power and influence. The iPhone was exceeding all expectation.

    People feed on memes, the state of culture has become this state-of-the-art competitive meme driven marketplace that without smartphone enhancement people would literally be lost, at a loss or lose out completely in business, social and professional life. Memes are addictive, they feed on our insecurities, promise us what we want and succeed beyond expectations. So the cycle continues...

  32. Intent of design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These devices and services are designed to keep people captive. It's entirely intentional and this goes way back in this series of toys we have. I've also suffered from these side effects. I can barely watch a TV program without checking my damn phone, it's bothersome. I need to practice more "me" time, and it's not as easy as you might think.

  33. Re: NYT reporter blames phone instead of TDS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    First of all, "social media" only exists to collect data so it can be sold to advertisers. Second, the designers od "social media" sites deliberately design them to be as addictive as possible...the more that you use these data mining sites, the more data that they can collect...and the more $$$$$$$$$$ that they can make!

    Third, "smart" phone addiction is a real thing, and it doesn't depend on the "social media" data mining sites. A while back, I had a room mate move out suddenly, and some friends were kind enough to rent me a room until I could find another place that I could afford. I ended up staying with these people for a little more than a year. And I saw "smart" phone addiction first hand! These people were using their phones every minute that they weren't doing something else...literally! In some cases they would put off things that needed done so that they could be on the internet on their phones. They did not even put their phones down to use the toilet! They became anxious if their phone battery was running low, and there was no place immediately available to charge it! They installed new outlets in their home that have built in USB charging ports! They all now have power banks (as they are called), basically a battery pack that can be plugged into a phone to run/charge it.

    And what were they doing on their phones? Usually watching Youtube videos, Netflix, or playing online games.

  34. I'm not a Trumptard by DogDude · · Score: 0

    I think that Trump is a treasonous, stupid, nasty, piece of shit human. You're confused, AC, whoever you are.

    --
    I don't respond to AC's.
  35. More entirely predictable commentary by doom · · Score: 1

    It's nice to see the slashdot crowd chiming in with another round of entirely predictable commentary.

    • Some people just can't handle it, if only you were a brilliantly well-adjusted genius like myself you would never have these problems. Only addicts have trouble with addiction, so just don't be one. See, easy!
    • Technology goooood. Technology always goooood. No need to worry about anything.
      • And forget about that "regulation" idea. Government always the problem.
    • The New York Times? If this were really a problem it'd be on zdnet. Or medium.
  36. It IS addiction by TJHook3r · · Score: 1

    I only realised I had a problem when two hour films that were not about superheroes became impossible to watch. After the gateway drug that was online news, I discovered the heroin of Reddit and the the hundreds of inane but amusing daily updates. Judging by the percentage of original comments on sites like Reddit (and here) I see that I'm not alone. The opportunity to communicate at any time of day is pretty compelling but actual brain stimulation is negligible!

  37. Unlimited data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you want to cure your "phone addiction," just downgrade your plan from unlimited data to something more restrictive.
    You'd be surprised how little importance all these distractions have once they start costing you real money to use.

    I use my phone to check the weather, look up bus schedules, occasionally check e-mail or texts of the "arriving soon" nature, and a few other useful things, but all the other bandwidth-sucking distractions are out.

  38. \o/ by easyTree · · Score: 1

    Ditched My Phone and Unbroke My Brain'

    Posted from my iPhone

  39. Re: NYT reporter blames phone instead of TDS? by mjwx · · Score: 1

    Old people tend to ignor it as they don't usually fully appreciate what it is.

    Or maybe we see it for exactly what it is, which explains our lack of interest.

    No, you dont.

    I know plenty of old people who have adapted, embraced modern technology and ideas... OTOH there are always those who just don't want to change, rejecting new ideas and technologies. The latter group are the ones left behind, fortunately the former are more numerous.

    By and large I see social media as a relatively uninteresting, shallow, and not very well done.

    RIKKI RIKKI RIKKI RIKKI.... Ugh.. I can still remember that bollocks from 20 fucking years ago.

    What you have described is popular culture. It's always been shallow, uninteresting and never very well done (or even medium rare). Seriously, go and watch some Rikki Lake from the 90's and tell me that was better, more interesting, less shallow.

    The difference is now I can choose not to be subjected to it, the tables have turned on broadcasters who used to decide what we could and couldn't watch.

    --
    Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
  40. Winter Soldier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm reminded of the quote:
    "Well, things aren't so bad. Food's a lot better; we used to boil everything. No polio is good. Internet, so helpful. I've been reading that a lot trying to catch up."

    It's like "there is two internets" (tensing and pluralization intentional). A large number of people think that WEB is the whole internet and it's where you go to share information. Sharing information, in this case, is reading other peoples opinions and sharing yours . . . disproportionately. Taking a good hard look at Facebook, it reads like a discussion forum got turned on it's head and it's impossible to get any straight chain of thought. It's also a thousand times easier to be ignored, feel rejected than, say, IRC.

    Then there's the rest of us. I (finally) like how the telematics integrate with with my car (aftermarket stereo setup), I can find the name of a tune or show that I have stuck in my head in a matter of minutes, vs asking everyone I know over a week or two, and it allows me to safely get/send direct data to someone else while driving.

    It's all about expectations.

  41. Deranged maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump Derangement is beyond imaginary, it's extreme IRONY to the point of upsetting intelligent informed educated people .... trolling them into an emotional response (and likely a healthy venting of negative emotion) which is then cited as an example of them being the emotionally unstable person... adding to the IRONY.

    Sadly, trying to explain the irony to people who do not see it is a lot like trying to explain to a cult member that their in a cult. (yes, it's a poor analogy because it's hardly an analogy at all.)

  42. Re: NYT reporter blames phone instead of TDS? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    I know plenty of old people who have adapted, embraced modern technology and ideas...

    Yes, like me. I'm a pretty techy guy and I use it daily. I'm in a tech field doing tech stuff. When I go home there's lots of fun tech stuff to play with (for example, I just got a 3D printer and I'm in the process of tricking it out).

    But here's the thing: tech doesn't rule my life, and I don't start to shake if I can't find my phone or if the battery is low. I don't fondle my phone 24/7 like a lot of people do.

    There's a difference between embracing technology and giving it blowjobs.

    --
    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
  43. A duck is not a duck 101 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OP AC here: Not confused at all. I read your posts. Walk like a duck, quack like a duck, but you're not a duck, you're a libertarian. You know what that means right? Libertarians are such selfish pricks they can't even get along with each other. Your posts (in many articles) indicate you support the majority of the repub platform. You certainly won't claim to be liberal, and I know you think Democratic Socialists are just Commies. Your only "excuse" might be that you aren't even from the US, though I recall differently. Be aware I'm not talking about this singular article. I'm talking about anything you've posted through the years here. We don't forget what a person's UID is when we go to bed and we know what you're up to; I stated that in my OP.