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Russia Limits Operations of Foreign Communications Satellite Operators (zdnet.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from ZDNet: This week, the Russian government has published a document outlining new rules that limit foreign communications satellite operators inside the country. The Russian government will require all foreign communications satellite companies to pass all incoming traffic through a ground gateway station. This means satellite operators won't be able to beam communications directly to customers without going through a ground station first. The Russian government cited an espionage threat of allowing foreign satellite companies to transmit data directly within the country's border, but critics of the Kremlin regime say the new requirement will enable Russian government agencies to intercept any incoming traffic. The new rules, set to enter into effect in six months, will also force all foreign communications satellite companies to obtain a permit from Russian authorities even before operating in the country. The Russian Defense Ministry, the Federal Security Service (FSB), and Federal Protective Service (FSO) will be in charge of reviewing applicants.

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  1. Small d ivans by Ryanrule · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Trying to stop SpaceX. Good luck enforcing this broskis

    1. Re:Small d ivans by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      Nothing new here, Russia has always being trying to legislate itself back into 17th century. Let's see how their economy follows it.

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    2. Re:Small d ivans by Freischutz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nothing new here, Russia has always being trying to legislate itself back into 17th century. Let's see how their economy follows it.

      *YAWN* ... call me when their economy out grows Italy's in size.

    3. Re: Small d ivans by mSparks43 · · Score: 2

      ->What makes you think we are behind?
      What they did to all the systems on the USS Donald Cook and https://www.defensenews.com/ho...

  2. Anyone with the balls to test enforcement? by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It would be interesting to see what they have to stop the signal.

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    1. Re: Anyone with the balls to test enforcement? by swamp_ig · · Score: 2

      Just fantastic stuff if they actually use them. Goodbye low earth orbit, hello Kessler syndrome.

    2. Re:Anyone with the balls to test enforcement? by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

      Sadly, satellite signals are very low level, easy to jam really.
      But in this case people's doors would be kicked in, in the middle of the night, black bags put over people's heads, and dragged to some windowless room where they have unspeakable things done to them. This is Russia we're talking about after all, not much better than PRNK or China.

    3. Re:Anyone with the balls to test enforcement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      ...people's doors would be kicked in, in the middle of the night, black bags put over people's heads, and dragged to some windowless room where they have unspeakable things done to them. This is Russia we're talking about after all...

      Well, golly gee! You can't let the CIA have all the fun, can you? What ever happened to sharing?

    4. Re:Anyone with the balls to test enforcement? by Aighearach · · Score: 3, Informative

      The issue isn't actually with operating the device in Russia.

      The issue is with having paying subscribers that live there.

      A foreigner trying to test the law will just get arrested as a spy for it, they won't "test" shit.

    5. Re:Anyone with the balls to test enforcement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Domestically, I have no idea. Internationally, which is the part I care about, the US is a lot worse.

    6. Re:Anyone with the balls to test enforcement? by cheesybagel · · Score: 2

      I remember a Chechen leader who was using a phone sat. The Russians tuned an air-launched missile to the frequency. You can guess the result.

      But no, I guess it would depend on what happens.

  3. The tighter you grip.. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

    ..the more grains of sand slip through your fingers.
    I really wish someone would end Putin. He's a fucking troublemaker and the world would be better off without him -- and several other people I could name.

    1. Re:The tighter you grip.. by bobbied · · Score: 2

      ..the more grains of sand slip through your fingers. I really wish someone would end Putin. He's a fucking troublemaker and the world would be better off without him -- and several other people I could name.

      This is really about Putin's falling poll numbers. His popularity is falling, so it's time to rattle some swards, ride some horses w/o a shirt and stuff like that. He's got to push the narrative that Russia is relevant and HE'S in charge of the Russian rise to power.

      The glaring truth here is that Russians see their continued decline and Putin's part in that. Putin is getting desperate and now that the "Russian Collusion" from 2016 narrative is dying, he has to do something. So he's looking for ways to bolster his image, his country's short term advantage or ANYTHING that gets him positive attention.

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  4. They have a plan by Required+Snark · · Score: 4, Funny
    They're going to put up a wall to keep the satellites out.

    It's guaranteed to work, just ask Trump.

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  5. The new smuggling by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The new smuggling will bring not drugs, liquor, or other banned physical things, but ungoverned data. There is already lots of this going on in the form of USB sticks with media from the West traded by people in countries with repressive governments, and use of internet proxies to receive data that is restricted by region where intellectual property is a tool of corporate totalitarianism (that means here in the US, folks). The new smuggling will be satellite ground stations providing direct, un-gatewayed access to global communications. Free speech is the crime here.

    1. Re:The new smuggling by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      Actually they do. It's a lot less comprehensive than China's infamous national firewall, and less sophisticated in implimentation, but it does exist. The specifics if implementation are down to the individual ISPs, but they are required by law (since 2012) to block all sites on a blacklist maintained by the Russian government agency Roskomnadzor. Like most such systems, it is officially justified as a required measure for protecting children from harmful material, but the definition of harmful material is broad enough that a lot of sites critical of the Russian government are blocked as well. They've a particular tendency to block any material advocating for gay rights.

      Before getting too harsh though, remember that most countries do have some form of national censorship system now. The US is a notable exception. The existence of a censorship infrastructure itsself is a requirement for widespread political censorship, but is not sufficient in itsself.

  6. How will that work with devices like InReach, GPS? by OnceWas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Much of the reason for satellite communications is to provide communications to locations that are out of reach of ground stations. The InReach devices communicate directly with satellites to trigger a rescue - and communicate - in remote areas. Espionnage 140 characters at a time?

    Bizarre.

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  7. Uplinks are sexier by Invisible+Now · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Look around at all the rooftop dishes in you neighborhood. Which one is beaming or more likely intermittently bursting in a sneaky and sophisticated way a high capacity data uplink? how do you think espionage works? Shortwavew and Morse code? Microfiche hidden in shoe heels? Obviously every terestial Internet data path is being sniffed. And you can bet rural personal uplinks and even dish TV logo-ed urban apartment balcony dishes are suspected of being covert alternatives to all the flash in personal electronics and body cavities as ways to get data back to China, albeit not with the much more useful near real-time capabilities of Earthline VPN feeding covert terrestrial uplink dishes. Why Russia is making a The new regulation law about down links is just theater. Putin Angle-ing for a Netflix board seat?

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  8. Re: Great wall of Russia? by Freischutz · · Score: 2

    ... North Korea's dynastic dictator-baby who literally has dissidents executed with flamethrowers and grenade launchers in public ...

    I'm no fan of North Korea but reports like that should be taken with a grain of salt. The story about Kim's Uncle being executed by a pack of man eating dogs turned out to be a hoax (well, actually, it originated as a satirical post on a Chinese social media network) and a number of other similar stories have turned out to be exaggerated. Like for example the story of general Hyon Yong-chol who was supposedly executed with a quad barrelled 23 mm anti-aircraft gun for “dozing off” at official events. This was later progressively downgraded until Hyon had supposedly been “purged”, but that he might still be alive. The North Korean regime is loathsome but believing every story about them you read in tabloids like the Daily Mail on a slow news day is not necessarily a good idea.

  9. The Democratic People's Republic of Russia by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Russia under Putin has slowly been drifting towards becoming another North Korea. Putin clearly understands that the legitimacy of the Russian government is under question and this is how he wants to control every piece of information flow, so that he and his circle will forever remain in power.