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Disney To Close 'Vault' For Good As It Moves Film Library To Streaming Service (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Disney is rapidly preparing to launch its own streaming service, dubbed Disney+, later this year. While the debut date is still unknown, we now know that the service will include the entire Disney movie library shortly after the service launches. According to a report in Polygon, Disney CEO Bob Iger explained the strategy to investors at a meeting in St. Louis, Missouri, pointing at the retirement of Disney's longstanding "vault." "The service... is going to combine what we call library product, movies, and television, with a lot of original product as well, movies and television," Iger said. "And at some point fairly soon after launch, it will house the entire Disney motion picture library, so the movies that you speak of that traditionally have been kept in a 'vault' and brought out basically every few years will be on the service. And then, of course, we're producing a number of original movies and original television shows as well that will be Disney-branded."
The Disney Vault has been a marketing and sales strategy for years. After a film's initial release run, Disney would sequester the title in its vault for a long period of time. That meant that customers who didn't buy a physical copy of the movie immediately would be out of luck until Disney brought it out of the vault as a new edition or a special release run. This strategy allowed Disney to control film sales and drum up anticipation for titles that were coming out of the vault once the company decided the time was right. But it also frustrated customers who ended up paying high prices for copies of movies that were widely unavailable during their vault stints. This exclusivity will be an important factor for Disney as it competes with other streaming giants like Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime Video.
The Disney Vault has been a marketing and sales strategy for years. After a film's initial release run, Disney would sequester the title in its vault for a long period of time. That meant that customers who didn't buy a physical copy of the movie immediately would be out of luck until Disney brought it out of the vault as a new edition or a special release run. This strategy allowed Disney to control film sales and drum up anticipation for titles that were coming out of the vault once the company decided the time was right. But it also frustrated customers who ended up paying high prices for copies of movies that were widely unavailable during their vault stints. This exclusivity will be an important factor for Disney as it competes with other streaming giants like Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime Video.
I look forward to seeing Song of the South on the new Disney streaming service...
NOT.
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But it also frustrated customers who ended up paying high prices for copies of movies that were widely unavailable during their vault stints/
Apparently these people never heard of yard sales or places like the Salvation Army or Goodwill Stores.
If it isn't on Amazon I won't bother.
There's no hidden gems left, the pirates plundered it years ago.
For decades people have have been clamoring for a la carte option during the cable package monopoly era. Cable companies warned why it might not be the dream come true for consumers and they were right. Now we have a la carte and all the negatives that comes with it.
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That was my thought the first time I saw the subject line - but, there's a lot more Disney product than just "Song of the South" that today's audiences would find objectionable. There's a ton of blatantly racist (even for the time) material from WWII as well as other films through the '40s and '50s.
It would be interesting to see how "entire" the library really is.
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I'm confused. Is Disney going to 'close the vault' and stop selling physical media entirely? Or are they going to sell physical media of all their products all the time, since they're available for streaming anyway?
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It's just sad to erase history simply because something is of another time and may offend people now... I think it's more important to show what it was slick, so that we know not to slide backwards...
Would just be nice for any serious Disney fan to really see EVERYTHING they produced at the highest level of quality.
It will be really interesting to see what traction Disney gets with this channel. I think it may do OK just from the base of all the families that love Disney channel and kids movies. But it also seems wrong to stick Deadpool and other more adult Marvel stuff behind this paywall that few fans are going to find worth paying for.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Sad when a company has to resort to artificial scarcity in order to drive sales.
I guess they have run out of ideas because I see they are remaking the same crap over and over again. e.g. Lion King (2019)
Bringing this back on topic -- so if the vault is going to be closed does that mean that everything can now be finally bought as a physical copy instead of being artificially restricted or will the only way to "own" these movies is to pay for a subscription to Disney+ ?
Will be outlawing the sale of "previously enjoyed" VHS/DVD/Blu-rays.
The obligatory extension of copyright date "To Infinity and Beyond"
Editing (or pretending it doesn't exist) anything more offensive than pg-13 from their "vault" .
Direct to streaming crap that people wouldn't pay for any other way.
Unless they plan to completely stop selling Blu-Ray / DVD versions of their movies, this doesn’t impact me in the least. Even if you like Disney movies (and we generally do) - it’s going to be a lot cheaper to buy the physical media, and rip it, for the titles we’re interested in. It’s what I’ve already been doing because buying the disks was already the only reliable way to access what we wanted to see... so why would I want to start paying them more money when I wouldn’t be gaining anything I care about? Do they seriously think a large number of people are waiting to see “Boy Meets World Revisited” or “That’s So Raven: College Daze”?
And I’m sure plenty of people here will be pointing out how easy it is to find stuff on the torrent sites... but face it, those folks are going to be doing that regardless of Disney’s (or anyone else’s) business model.
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For new movies, they are still going to sell physical copies. The are going to stop re-releasing old movies on physical media, like Snow White and The Lion King. The only way to see those is through the streaming service. Or rent it at a library. Or buy a used copy from somewhere.
This is a nice opportunity to by up as many cheap Disney DVDs and BluRay's as possible to sell on E-bay and Amazon at a later date.
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The Disney vault was used to limit access long before you could buy (or miss the opportunity to buy) a copy for home viewing. Originally, if you missed the theatrical release and the movie went in the Disney vault, you would basically have to wait a generation before it would be pulled out for another theatrical run. Young punks today don't realize how good they've got it. <grin>
I have subscriptions with four streaming services now. There is no chance I will sign up for another. I don't have enough time to watch everything now.
If that means not seeing anything that Disney now owns, that is something I can live with. From my limited perspective that would just take them out of the market.
the only movie they ever made that I really like was Lilo & Stitch ("Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw!") which they were pretty hands off on.
They seem to see their fans as sacks of money rather than people. It sucks to be in an adversarial role with the company that owns the stuff you love.
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The President and his cabinet has resigned not the government collapsing.
So you "love it when socialism fails". You must be sick in the head, as you get happy to watch people suffer, because you think "I Must be right!"
But to note there is an election coming up soon, in Finland, so a change in power was going to happen anyways.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Disney owns 60% of Hulu after acquiring Fox - sans Fox News.
Y'all seem to have forgotten The Mouse owns Star Wars too. They have a LOT of brands under their control.
I'm sure their own dedicated streaming service sounds like a good idea to them, but in the end I think it's going to hurt their brand. Just look at what CBS has done to Star Trek by limiting streaming access.
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Streaming is completely logical for Disney. $10/mo for the entire catalog ~= six $25 DVDs/yr, and you're not bothered by physical media.
Hell, my household would only use the Star Wars and Marvel channels, and if you included ALL the episodic animation (SW Rebels, Avengers Assemble, the underrated Lego Star Wars), I could almost see subscribing to it. If they're REALLY smart, they'll throw in ESPN+ for free. Gives Dad a reason to hook it up.
The question is what happens when their IP doesn't even appear on wider content aggregators (NetFlix/Prime/Hulu/Whatever). If half a generation never sees it, and/or finds alternatives (e.g. Amazon's "Just Add Magic"), Disney's position moving foward is unclear.
Here's hoping...
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Perhaps now they'll explain the incoherence of cancelling Daredevil right after its most watched season.
LOL Stupid people be like...I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPS SO SOMEONE PAYS ATTENTION TO ME. I read on the interwebs I should be mad so I am. I'm also peaceful but kill that guy. I've got no life so lemme hit up /. and instigate a few people with my hormonal rage.
NOW all us people have to do when they do this is NOT BUY IT , NOT USE IT, and they wont have a damn thing for sale and they can go turd like the rest of them like cbs
this is about control 100% and you can remove it by not using it
Which is an approach egregiously followed by Disney (up till now) and - most infamously - by DeBeers: diamonds are expensive, not because they are particularly rare (which they are not) but because the lowlifes from DeBeers control the market and the supply. They have thrived on the artificial scarcity that generate and control for over one hundred years now. Talk about greed.
Note: in many countries, they use the phrase "the government has fallen", which simply means an existing coalition is now out of power. In the US, that would have an entirely different and much more serious connotation.
which makes me wonder if/when he loses in 2020 will he leave office?
One wonders if the online library will include one of the most expensive productions ever to air - once. It has never been available in any form since. It was based on the official 9/11 Commission report, but killed after airing because it painted Bill Clinton in an unfavorable light. It is literally the only disney production unavailable.
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It's just a confirmation that the "progressive left" are a bunch of schizophrenic psychopaths who no longer have a foot in reality. I didn't realize how bad it was until election day 2016. Their ability to think rationally is impaired and their only purpose in life to lash out and try to destroy things of value and ruin other people's lives. They simply refuse to believe they have a problem. They have the reasoning ability of a toddler.
xxxxx+, xxxxPlus... it's getting tired.
Spoken like a true Taliban. Or is it ISIS?
Can't lock up something that's already in a torrent. I've got everything you ever released Disney
Disney would release a film, then hold it back for 7 years and then release it again and repeat.
There's an entire new crop of little kids every 7 years who'd never seen the movie.
How off base can /. editors be to miss this?
What's next, asking a musician if a cover of his popular song by a modern popular singer is good or bad. Of course it's good, the original musician gets 50% of the royalties from the cover version.
So many racist films from Disney, no longer hidden away in the vault...
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
I doubt we'll see another copyright term extension bill in the USA before 2024 for several reasons.
- First, Authors Guild actually opposes it, as authors have realized how keeping things out of the public domain causes authors to have to walk on eggshells to avoid infringing third parties' copyrights.
- Second, the 1998 extension was predicated on harmonizing copyright terms to those of the European Union. In its opinion in Eldred v. Ashcroft, the Supreme Court recognized the possibility of "legislative misbehavior" but allowed the 1998 extension through because of harmonization. But no major developed anglophone market has extended the term further than the EU's life plus 70.
- Third, the US Trade Representative doesn't appear interested in extending the U.S. copyright term. The USMCA treaty, which replaced NAFTA at the end of 2018, extended the Canadian term but did not extend the U.S. term.
I mention 2024 because that's when U.S. copyright in "Steamboat Willie", The House on Pooh Corner, and Ravel's "Bolero" expires under current law.
Maybe you should only subscribe to one or two at time and switch them up every few months.
Unless Disney decides to encourage annual subscriptions by jacking up the monthly rate so high that a subscriber can buy 2 months and get 10 free.
There are periodic and limited production runs of movies.
That's it. Stop accepting a stupid marketdroid's false reality.
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I know it's a branding thing but it still hurts my brain every time I see them talk about a Disney streaming service, after the FOX deal they now own a majority share in Hulu. So let's spend all this money then spend more money creating competition for something we just bought.