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Apple Announces 10.5-inch iPad Air and Refreshed iPad Mini (engadget.com)

Ahead of a planned event next week, Apple today unveiled two new iPads. From a report: The new, larger, 10.5-inch iPad Air will arrive with a 70 percent performance boost compared to its predecessor, thanks to the company's A12 Bionic chip with Apple's Neural Engine. That'll be useful alongside the now 20-percent larger display -- which is compatible with the first-gen Apple Pencil too.

A new iPad Mini has been a long time coming. The 7.9-inch option will, barring screen size, match the Air on specs. The screen is also 25 percent brighter versus old iPad minis, and will also support Apple Pencil -- the tiniest model to do so. Both new iPads have a laminated display that brings the surface glass and screen closer together to improve visibility -- and making them at least a little more desirable than Apple's entry-level iPad. Neither has FaceID built-in, it seems. Look, there's that Home button.
The new iPad mini starts at $399 for the Wi-Fi model and $529 for the variant that includes cellular support. The new iPad Air starts at $499 for Wi-Fi, and $629 for Wi-Fi and cellular model.

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  1. Meh by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    I've still got an Air 2 that works fine for the light web-browsing and Netflix watching that it gets used for, and I think a lot of people are in the same situation as I am here. At least Apple has moved past putting 32 GB (or even 16 GB) on the base models. 64 GB feels like a sufficient amount for loading it up with stuff when going on a trip and not having to worry about the lack of space.

    1. Re:Meh by fluffernutter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I was shopping for a tablet I'd get the most storage for the least price. Usually that means not buying an Apple product.

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    2. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When I go shopping for a tablet, I'd get the one that is still supported 2 years out. Usually that means buying an Apple product.

    3. Re:Meh by tepples · · Score: 1

      If I was shopping for a tablet I'd get the most storage for the least price.

      A tablet that does not run the applications for which you bought a tablet isn't useful no matter how much storage you buy. Many paid phone and tablet apps and games are iOS-first if not iOS-only. If you just want storage and don't care about apps, you could always buy a USB flash drive.

    4. Re:Meh by fluffernutter · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I mean, technically if you're paying $200 more for an iPad so you can use one app that doesn't work on Android, you're paying $200 for that app.

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    5. Re:Meh by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      There are many games available for Android.

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    6. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Unsophisticated and non-discriminating users such as yourself are well-served by 3rd tier tablets from the shopping network.

    7. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It is a trusted device. Do you use public computers that are likely loaded with viruses to log on to your bank accounts and such? A device that is relatively free of 0-days and is something that only you can use is quite valuable when travelling.

    8. Re: Meh by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I've never had a hack so I'm not going to worry about it until it happens.

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    9. Re: Meh by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      That risk is way overblown.

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    10. Re: Meh by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      I drive to my bank and talk to a teller.

      When I want to carry a lot of content around, I can use a little wallet of microSD cards if I wish.

      Have fun with your eyeCloud. You're safe, Apple is watching and will protect.

    11. Re:Meh by guacamole · · Score: 1

      The question, why you need so much storage on a tablet? I mean, I understand the time when tablets and phones came with 16GB of storage, and that was a pain, always. But now 32-64GB base storage is now standard even on cheap throwaway Amazon Fire HD10. One hour of Prime Netflix HD stream compresses to something like less than 1GB. So even on a tablet or phone with only 32GB of storage I can download enough shows to last a long transatlantic flight. The 64GB version of iPad will pretty much end this discussion for the vast majority of owners.

  2. Headphone jack by psergiu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And both of them still have the headphone jack.

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    1. Re:Headphone jack by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      are they still stuck with a proprietary charging port or they moved on to USB-C ?

    2. Re:Headphone jack by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

      What? But cables aren't good for anything! Totally obsolete. I love the sound of Bluetooth compression.

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    3. Re:Headphone jack by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      More room.

      The primary reason to get rid of the headphone jack on phones, is because the amount of empty space it takes up, which could be used for something else, or allow for enough space for battery expansion, and prevent explosions (Note 7).

      The iPad as more room to engineer around, so adding a headphone jack is less of an engineering trick.

      Could Apple design a phone with a headphone jack... Sure, but other then angering a bunch of people who wouldn't buy Apple anyways most people don't use headphones too much with their phone anyways, many of the ones who do, use the headphones included in the box, or just use the dongle, and keep their external phones plugged in.
      Sue I will get a hundreds of people who say they were Apple users until this switch... But really I am more willing to bet that you wanted to get off Apple anyways and you had an excuse.

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    4. Re:Headphone jack by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Except they ruled that out in tests where they take the phone apart.

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    5. Re:Headphone jack by geekmux · · Score: 1

      And both of them still have the headphone jack.

      Sadly, the demand to make iPhones toilet-water-proof far exceeded the need for headphone jacks.

      I'm guessing there are a lot fewer iPads regularly hovering over water.

    6. Re:Headphone jack by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      I love the sound of Bluetooth compression.

      Sorry, all I heard was, "lov Blutoth compreson".

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    7. Re: Headphone jack by Solandri · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Apple didn't use the space saved by removing the headphone jack for anything. They just filled the space with a plastic insert. (The barometric reason Apple fed people is B.S. spouted by marketing doing damage control. You don't need a space to measure barometric pressure. You just need air since it'll all be at the same pressure, and there's plenty of air inside the rest of the iPhone.)

    8. Re:Headphone jack by irving47 · · Score: 1

      > I'm guessing there are a lot fewer iPads regularly hovering over water.

      That's what the hydrophobic coating is for.

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    9. Re:Headphone jack by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      More room.

      The primary reason to get rid of the headphone jack on phones, is because the amount of empty space it takes up, which could be used for something else, or allow for enough space for battery expansion, and prevent explosions (Note 7).

      I guess that's why a solitary hardware hacker was able to put a headphone jack in the iPhone 7... Because there was all that empty space in the non-headphone-equipped iPhone. The lack of a headphone jack has nothing to do with batteries or explosions or other stuff, it's about pushing sales of Bluetooth headphones - Airpods and Beats, specifically.

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    10. Re:Headphone jack by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Too bad that Apple couldn't do what Lil' Wayne and Samsung did...

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  3. Get your act together, Tim Apple! by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    Apple under Jobs introduced different and interesting products. Apple under Cook seems to produce nothing but iterations, gradual updates of old stuff. They're boring now.

    1. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by bob4u2c · · Score: 1

      YES, 5 new shows! Ground breaking!

      Honestly though, I'm pretty sure each major network cancels more shows than that after just the first episode airs.

      I'm not saying people won't buy into it, Apple seems to have a knack for being the trendy thing to have even when there is no need for it. These minor upgrades however are slowly chipping away at that image. I guess when your stake on the next big thing is 5 new TV shows, you are pretty much out of ideas. How long will it be before we start seeing retro products again, like the clear iMacs with clear zip drives?

      As for a more powerful, bigger screen, larger storage capacity, and brighter display gadget; well take your pick. Most of which can be had for under $200, so even if it won't run the latest thing in a year or two, you can buy a new one and still come out ahead. Currently I'm rocking a $120 tablet with 10" display, and a 200Gig micro SD card loaded with enough movies and shows to keep me occupied for weeks.

    2. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by Daralantan · · Score: 1

      Soon they will harness their Courage(TM) and release new models of the iPad and iPhone that have removed the next big thing...... The screen! Purchase this metal sheet with nothing more than a glowing apple on it! The iSlab.

    3. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by gtall · · Score: 1

      I be happy for another iteration of a cheese grater Mac tower. Instead all we get is this tat.

    4. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by guacamole · · Score: 1

      Which is a proof that the iSomething market has reached a level of good maturity a long time ago. If it wasn't for battery issues, I'd still be fine with using either iPhone 6S or Samsung Galaxy S5 both from something like four years ago. Having more than 16GB of storage would be nice, but besides that, those old iPhones and iPads would be perfect or acceptable to most users.

  4. Re:10.5 inches is too small by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    Too small?!? That's not what my wife said!

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  5. Re:10.5 inches is too small by cellocgw · · Score: 1

    Too small?!? That's not what my wife said!

    Yeah but she also said she wants it to last a little longer.

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  6. That's the iPad Pro by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    are they still stuck with a proprietary charging port or they moved on to USB-C ?

    The iPad Pro uses USB-C, so if that is a requirement you have a solution already. Nothing wrong with more consumer oriented gear that will not have much attached over a lifetime of the product using different ports.

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    1. Re:That's the iPad Pro by fred6666 · · Score: 2

      The USB-C might be not so useful though. If you can't connect a mouse, a USB drive, a printer who gives a shit then?

      The main advantage of standard connectors is to be able to use the same cable to charge different devices. You can charge a Macbook, an iPad Pro, an Android cell phone over USB-C but for some lame excuses, you need another cable to charge your new iPad.

  7. Re:10.5 inches is too small by EvilSS · · Score: 1

    You should have bought a Dell then! Dell used to sell a 18.4 inch "tablet" PC. I almost bought it just for the utter ridiculousness of it.

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  8. 10.5"? - are MS app costs still affected by size? by SomePoorSchmuck · · Score: 1

    At one time - this has been a couple years - you could only get free MS productivity apps on screens SMALLER than 10.1".
    If your tablet was larger than that, you had to pay for a consumer Office365 license because MS considered your device equivalent to a full desktop/laptop.

    Is this still in effect or has MS given that up?

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  9. You can connect USB-C devices by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    If you can't connect a mouse, a USB drive, a printer who gives a shit then?

    The people who can attach USB-C hubs, for video output or SD card attachment or keyboards or other USB-C devices...

    Some things may not work at the moment, like USB-C drives, but eventually they will (there's already at least one external drive maker that has an app that can connect to an external drive they make).

    The advantages are being able to use the same adaptors for things like video across a laptop and the iPad....

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    1. Re:You can connect USB-C devices by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I try to avoid buying USB-C devices because so many devices use regular USB-A. My most regular use for a flash drive is to transfer video to my TV; so maybe when TVs start getting USB-C then the devices will make more sense but right now USB-A is cheaper and more useful. It sucks to use a dongle all the time but thats what you get when you buy Apple.

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    2. Re:You can connect USB-C devices by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Ok so does AirPlay work with my brother in law's TV? I think it's an LG.

      I thought not.

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  10. Re:More toys by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    I wonder if some proprietary Solaris fork would still be viable (w/ "community edition").

    It depends on what you are running. Just like Macs were only ever commercially useful for DTP or music because of the software available, Solaris has only ever been useful in certain industries. To be fair, through most of history it's been useful for more than Macs have, but today there are few if any commercial applications being distributed for Solaris x86.

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  11. That's not really true by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    So most iOS apps, will not be made to handle the newest models

    I find that something like 90% of iOS apps handle new features within a year or so - like FaceID or the Files app.

    because for one it needs to support on the lower power phones, and just change the screen display (to save on re-coding)

    That is totally wrong, there are a lot of ways to easily provide for more complex UI on the iPad without much coding at all.

    On top of that there are a number of very powerful iPad only apps...

    These are low power devices and are limited in what they can do.

    That is also wrong, the latest iPad Pro models are FASTER at browsing large 16-bit TIFF files than many desktops.

    At this point they are extremely powerful and not that limited, with what limits there are fading away over time...

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  12. Re:OMG, who cares? by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    Yes because apple is totally secure

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  13. Other options for men ... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    The 7.9-inch option will, barring screen size, match the Air on specs.

    And there's also a 7.9" model for men that's labeled 10.5" ...

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  14. Re:Let's say someone wanted a 10-in android tablet by Solandri · · Score: 1

    Samsung is pretty much the only Android tablet maker taking the large tablet form factor seriously. Their top-of-the-line model (Tab S4) is probably overpriced for most people's tastes. Their low-end model (Tab A 10.5, latest mode was released last year) is decent for the price, but most will probably find it lacking. They're scheduled to release a new mid-tier model (Tab S5e) in the next few months, that looks like it'll be a promising in-between tablet.

    Google pretty much stopped supporting tablet features in Android, so stock Android on a large tablet is not that great an experience. Like using a giant phone. Tablet makers have had to make their own modifications to Android to take advantage of the larger screen space (e.g. running multiple apps side-by-side).

  15. Re:OMG, who cares? by gtall · · Score: 1

    Wow, did you think that up all by yourself? I'll bet you feel better now...try the little pink pills next time.

  16. Re:Let's say someone wanted a 10-in android tablet by Maltheus · · Score: 1

    Yeah, when I discovered this, and the fact that Lineage isn't even supported on any of the Samsung tablets available for sale, I finally gave up and switched over to Apple.

    I never thought I would do that because I prefer having more control, but Google has no follow through on anything they release. If you like an app or feature, it probably won't be around in a couple of years. And trying to keep an Android tablet updated is a nightmare. I've pretty much given up on Google for anything but search, and even that's not as good as it once was.

  17. Re: Will never happen by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

    Party like it's 1999 dude!

  18. Re: OVER BLOWN by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

    Microsoft get so much shit about the security flaws in Windows and yet they support their software for 10 years or more. Suggesting that you might want Android updates for more than 18 months and the fanboys act like you're insane.

  19. Re:10.5 inches is too small by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    Yes, Apple battery time has always been very disappointing to her...

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  20. Product line COOK'd by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 1

    Dunno if handheld computing is front and center at Apple any longer.

    Visited Apple Store and couldn't visibly see that Apple's line of iPads has advanced. Every one of the iPads looks like they did 4 years ago. Except now a 12" iPad looks small. WTF?

    No where was an iPad Mini on display.

    Effectively, Tim Cook has obfuscated consumer's ability to compare, contrast and plot a roadmap forward with handheld desktop portables and desktop portables .vs. wired desktop computing.

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    1. Re:Product line COOK'd by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      There's a reason there's a Genius there to help you. There's no need for you to compare anything, just walk in, and the Genius will tell you what you have to buy and you're set!

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  21. Re:Let's say someone wanted a 10-in android tablet by guacamole · · Score: 1

    Google pretty much stopped supporting tablet features in Android, so stock Android on a large tablet is not that great an experience. Like using a giant phone. Tablet makers have had to make their own modifications to Android to take advantage of the larger screen space (e.g. running multiple apps side-by-side).

    I highly disagree with this statement. Most tablet users use their tablets for 4-5 tasks that are specially well suited for tablet application, such as streaming apps, book readers, web browsers, note taking, and maybe one more task. That's why I use my tablet for, and I never felt my tablet to be a "big phone". It is true there are many crappy apps on App Store that are not optimized for tablet UI. But guess what, over 90% of Android App store apps are such crap that I wouldn't put them even on a phone, and I really don't care whether they have a tablet optimized UI.

  22. But no stereo sound on iPad Mini by guacamole · · Score: 1

    The iPad Mini does not have stereo sound in landscape mode, which makes it crap for video streaming apps. All the sound is firing from the left or right of the screen. What a waste. One of the reasons I am sticking with Android tablets because almost all of them support stereo sound in landscape mode.

    Heck, I even would access a MONO sound if the speaker was placed in the center of the screen, but the way Apple iPad/Mini does it is just stupid.