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Police Officers In Berlin Had To Break Up Fight Between Supporters of Two Rival YouTubers (bbc.com)
More than 100 police officers were deployed to break up a mass brawl reportedly organized by two rival YouTube stars in Berlin. The BBC reports: The fight broke out on Thursday evening on Alexanderplatz square in the German capital, police said, adding that nine people were arrested. More than 400 people had gathered after two social media influencers reportedly urged their fans to join a face-off. As tensions escalated, a large melee involving around 50 people erupted. Officers used pepper spray and tear gas after attempts to disperse the crowds with loudspeakers failed. As police intervened, clashes spilled over in a nearby subway, where rocks picked up from railway lines were reportedly thrown. The YouTubers who reportedly started this mess are named "Thatsbekir" and "Bahar Al Amood," both of which denied that they were at fault for the brawl in social media posts.
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Depends on your definition of European. Both of the YouTubers are middle eastern in origin (a Turk and an Arab) so it looks like that whole "bring in 1 million refugees" plan has succeeded in enriching Germany with some foreign culture.
"Imagine a world in which generations of human beings come to believe that certain films were made by God or that specific software was coded by him. Imagine a future in which millions of our descendants murder each other over rival interpretations of Star Wars or Linux VS Windows. Could anything - anything - be more ridiculous? And yet, this would be no more ridiculous than the world we are living in." - Sam Harris, author of The End of Faith and Letter to a Christian Nation
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Exactly. The MSM rhetoric is perfectly calibrated to be soft enough to prevent activism or rioting, yet hard enough to ensure the people stay divided and easy to manipulate in their voting patterns. Someone once said here that the Democratic and Republican parties are just taking turns raping the USA, and I posit that that's an intentionally worked-out agreement rather than an accident. Notice, for example, how few laws get rolled back once the other party is in power, even controversial ones whose rollback is a plank of someone's campaign.
The above is US-centric because that's what I know, although I also know the BBC's "exactly two sides to an issue" tendency helps enforce that.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
Yea, Berlin is a damn shitshow. Crime, gangs, laughing-stock education-wise, far-left local government and a giant money drain the rest of the country has to pay for.
There's a meme in German: "Ach, Berlin". Kind of like "Florida man" but instead of individuals doing dumb shit it's a whole city.
Couldn't the police have sat back and livestreamed this bunch of idiots beating each other up on Youtube?
While I like poking fun at YT morons, in this case it's just a case of "standard thing happens + Internet = Breaking News!!!!". There have been youth gangs in Berlin beating each other up about nothing much for at least a hundred years, and in fact it's calmed down a lot since the 1920s when there were literal street battles with people being killed in the fighting, e.g. KPD vs. SA. So this is business as usual, but only the addition of the Internet makes it newsworthy.
Social media has a lot to answer for, but in this case it's a red herring.
None of this woosy pushing and shoving they do today.
5 Insightful my ass. Grow the fuck up: There's no "global conspiracy" by what you call the "MSM" to control the population for some sort of social and economic order. There's one thing, and one thing only that motivates mainstream media: Their own personal profit. Period.
Hollywood and mainstream media are businesses. They produce the content they do for one reason only: Because it's what we demand. We don't give a flying fuck about what "real, ordinary people have to go through in the real world". We want gore, we want drama, we want sex and we want sports. And that's exactly what they give us, because that's how you make money doing business.
Everybody's always trying to find someone else to put the blame on for the world going to shit: The jews, the muslims, the immigrants, the "elite", the media, ect etc. They're all too cowardly to look in the mirror. We are a ruined, degenerate species. And if we don't wise up, gather the courage to look at ourselves for what we truly are, and collectively get our shit together real soon, we'll end-up like all other mistakes of nature ended-up: Extinct.
Did you somehow conveniently "overlook" all the Germans im there? (INB4 no true Scotsman)
You obviously don't understand how cultural enrichment works.
It's as if you're pointing to a bunch of ISIS fighters and yelling "But look, they have some white American-looking guys in there! And they married a bunch of chicks from England!"
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If the goal is to make money, then how do you explain that the "MSM" are becoming less and less profitable? How do you explain that they are slowly replaced with alternative media? How do you explain that a generic YouTuber with almost no means and doing some generic political commentaries can get more views than news channels from the "MSM"?
I live in Quebec. I'm on the right. There are no "MSM" here for me. No "MSM" wants to sell me anything. They view me either as an undesirable customer or, at best, as someone who must be manipulated into their ideology. One of the three important written media here (La Presse) now must rely on government subsidies to survive. Instead of changing their editorial content in order to offer what people want, they decided to stay true to their ideology and risk bankruptcy.
The reality is the "MSM", like many parts of Western societies, have become infected with this leftist ideologies. They now care more about promoting their "moral values" than making money, or even telling the truth. The "get woke, go broke" certainly applies to the "MSM".
Anyway, your part about looking in the mirror was funny. How about you start doing it yourself?
Who I blame is actual Mainstream Media who for many decades have deliberately - and profitably - ignored and censored what real, ordinary people have to go through in the real world. All in the name of social cohesion and economic stability.
Your premise is backwards. Newspapers don't profit from social cohesion and economic stability, newspapers profit from outrage and fear. This is where we get the term "yellow journalism," and the Spanish American war is sometimes credited as a war we fought for the sake of newspaper profits. This is debated, but the newspapers did profit from that war.
Let's consider: where did you get the idea that the "Mainstream Media" was doing this? Was it from the "non-Mainstream Media"? They are also out to make a profit, and like everyone else they profit from outrage and fear.
The mainstream media is not motivated by profit. Most of them don't make money any more. Now they are the mouthpieces of billionaires like Carlos Slim (New York Times) or Jeff Bezos (Washington Post). It turns out what "we" demand is incisive, detailed content that takes time to examine the issues. Have you seen the Joe Rogan show? The segments are 2-3 hours and he has millions of viewers. His recent triumph was with Tim Pool tearing the Twitter CEO and his media lapdog a new asshole for their obvious political bias. It was awesome. And your idea that our political and media establishment don't aspire to a world order is utterly false.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
I am willing to believe what you say about the political leanings of newspapers, but I don't see how that contradicts what I said or how it relates to what the parent said. Political leanings weren't really a factor.
Parties are always happy that the other party installs a law they themselves don't dare to do.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
In a country of law aka "free government under the law", nope.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
What's interesting is how well some immigrants integrate and how well some don't. In the US, I've run into a lot of 2nd generation Latinos that are so suburban middle class you'd think they were immigrants from the 19th century, not the 1970s.
It might have something to do with racial appearance, a lot of Latinos are very Caucasian in terms of racial appearance and can often be confused with Italians, Greeks or Jews. But I think some of it is cultural -- for all the anti-Mexican hysteria, Mexican culture more or less is European.
Integration as modern liberals envision doesn't exist. We can't have parallel societies as in the past any more, because democracy and the welfare system pushes us together and into competition for the club of government to beat each other with. So now there can be only assimilation or strife.
Either they submit to us, or we submit to them ... there is no middle road. Demographics seem to point to us submitting to them, the future does not look white/bright.
I grew up in Detroit, where we had Hamtramck, which had the largest Polish population of any city outside Poland. We had Greektown, we and other enclaves of German, Arab, and other groups. While they often worked or went to school together, they went home to their little clique neighborhoods.
When I moved to the DC area, I saw a much more integrated city, but to this day we have pockets of Korean, Vietnamese and a few other ethnicities.
Americans that I worked with in Germany and Korea did the same...while we would often partake in some of the national festivities, we'd normally stick together.
I think you can only assimilate just so much and then you want some of what you grew up with, which is why you see that difference with the 2nd generations.
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If the goal is to make money, then how do you explain that the "MSM" are becoming less and less profitable? How do you explain that they are slowly replaced with alternative media? How do you explain that a generic YouTuber with almost no means and doing some generic political commentaries can get more views than news channels from the "MSM"?
One of the dumbest questions ever asked on /. The MSM doesn't control the internet, and the same way that Sears and KMart didn't. The same way that the big real estate companies are quivering in their boots over Zillow and Redfin. Because the internet has changed their business model, and the competition is driving down their profits.
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Most of them don't make money any more
That's a load of crap and you know it. Sure they're profit margins have dropped since the internet changed the whole business model. But WaPo and NYT have always been liberal news havens since long before Bezos. WaPo even does critical stories about him.
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If a nobody with a webcam can compete with a professional news organization, then it's obvious the professional news organization is not doing its job anymore. That's the problem with the majority of news media. It's not that there is this big bad Internet thing that allows competition, it's that they don't do their job anymore.
It's not "a nobody". It's literally billions of cameras.
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You should either look up the definition of the word "literally" or you should learn take two seconds to read back what you wrote before clicking on the "Submit" button.
Anyway, the fact is the majority of news media have lost so much credibility that a lot of people now think the information from a random nobody is as good as the one from professional news organizations. Journalism was once seen as a noble profession, now it is seen by many as mostly worthless.