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Mike Pence Tells NASA To Accelerate Human Missions To the Moon 'By Any Means Necessary' (theverge.com)

Today at the fifth meeting of the National Space Council, Vice President Mike Pence said the Trump administration is committed to sending humans back to the Moon by 2024, four years earlier than NASA's previous target of 2028. The Verge reports: Pence, speaking at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, noted that the administration will meet this goal "by any means necessary." He called on NASA to adopt new policies and argued that the space agency would need to embrace "a new mindset that begins with setting bold goals and staying on schedule." To do that, he said the administration may consider ditching some of NASA's current contractors -- which are currently developing new vehicles to take humans into deep space -- and using commercially developed rockets instead. "If commercial rockets are the only way to get American astronauts to the Moon in the next five years, then commercial rockets it will be," said Pence. "Urgency must be our watch word."

However, Pence offered few clear recommendations and changes that would help to accelerate NASA's return, apart from potentially switching rockets and contractors. "It was rhetoric about 'by all means possible' and 'we'll provide the resources necessary' and 'leadership is essential,'" John Logsdon, a space policy expert at George Washington University, tells The Verge. "I mean, they're all good words. But the devil's in the details."

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  1. Wait, what? by Aighearach · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Setting bold goals and staying on schedule.

    So I guess, they sacrifice safety.

    1. Re:Wait, what? by phayes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, Hopefully what they will be abandoning is the hugely expensive launcher and capsule that senator Shelby Has been forcing NASA to use as a means of shoveling tens of billions of pork to his constituants. If NASA were able to at last abandon the go-nowhere jobs programs called SLS & Orion — and if they used an equivalent amount of funding, missions to the moon would indeed be possible.

      The problem is Shelbly.

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    2. Re:Wait, what? by nucrash · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Senator Shelby isn't alone. There is a reason why the Space Shuttle was built from parts from 49 states. There is a reason why SLS and Orion likely have a similar distribution of vendors.

      Our government loves to espouse their hate of socialism but when finding ways to create jobs back in their states or districts, they gladly distribute military and other large programs across the US.

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    3. Re:Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not. Socialism would be the government going into the rocket-building business to achieve its space goals, nationalizing the aerospace industry.

      This guy just has an allergic reaction (like most right-wingers) to anything paid for with taxpayer dollars.

  2. Show me the Money! by neoRUR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, show me how its all going to be paid for, and most of it will be contracted out.
    I'm all for going to Mars and sending someone there.
    Pushing people to develop new technologies or think differently will help drive innovation.
    But don't cut current programs and funding just because someone wants to get to Mars in their term.

  3. Get your ass to.. by MrKaos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mars^H^H^HMoon^H^H^H^HMars^H^H^HMoon

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  4. "By any means necessary" - impossible by bradley13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That means two things, neither of which is going to happen:

    - Increased risk, including a likelihood of deaths.

    - Reducing Congressional oversight, so they can't micromanage NASA's budget and force NASA to hand out pork to the "right" Congressional districts.

    Realistically, it would probably also require a third thing: firing the NASA bureaucracy that has grown up in service of Pournelle's Iron Law.

    So, no. Not going to happen. NASA as it exists today is not capable of doing this job.

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  5. Why? by DogDude · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We have millions of Americans who still cannot afford to go to the doctor, who cannot afford education, who cannot afford housing, and this asshat thinks we need to send people to the moon to do what, exactly?

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  6. Why 2024? by netlag1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is Pence so hot to get to the moon asap? What could possibly be scheduled for 2024 that the vice president would want some great publicity for?

  7. Young Earth Creationist pushing for Moon by 2024 by nucrash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's right, Mike Pence, the young Earth creationist, wants us to go to the Moon by 2024. This is a man who doesn't understand science or history of us getting to the Moon. He doesn't understand money either because NASA had 5% of the budget at that time. Currently NASA has what, half a percent of the budget?

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  8. Re:Any means necessary? by thereddaikon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Defensive? No. But its hard not to be annoyed when all of the news agencies and half the internet have been screaming about a conspiracy theory for two years. At this point you're starting to sound like flat earthers.