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Ban Fortnite, Says Prince Harry (gamespot.com)

Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, is calling for the ban of popular battle royale game "Fortnite." The prominent member of the British royal family visited a YMCA in West London and spoke to mental health experts about addictive games and social media, saying that the latter is more addictive than drugs or alcohol. From a report: "[Fortnite] shouldn't be allowed," he said. "Where is the benefit of having it in your household? It's created to addict, an addiction to keep you in front of a computer for as long as possible. It's so irresponsible. It's like waiting for the damage to be done and kids turning up on your doorsteps and families being broken down." He also suggested that social media is "more addictive than alcohol and drugs." Further reading: Fortnite Creator Sees Epic Games Becoming as Big as Facebook, Google; and 'Fortnite' May be a Virtual Game, But It's Having Real-life, Dangerous Effects.

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  1. Translation by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Funny

    Get back to work peasants. These castles aren't going to build themselves.

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    1. Re:Translation by Pseudonym · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Teenagers should be breaking into their grandmother's liquor cabinet and stealing gin like we did."

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    2. Re: Translation by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously, spend more time with your kids, stop neglecting them, play Fortnite with them.

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    3. Re:Translation by Tyr07 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Pretty much.

      Social media is more dangerous to the people in power than drugs and alcohol, is more like it. That information age is really upsetting them.

  2. Ban royalty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's an outdated concept, a relic from when we we're uncivilized.
    It has done more damage than drugs or alcohol.

    1. Re: Ban royalty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's absolutely not true that the monarchy is a net gain for UK plc. To make that claim you have to assume that, to pick one example , no-one would visit Windsor Castle if we abolished the monarchy. Just like no-one ever visits the Palace of Versailles anymore.

      It's royalist propaganda. The second claim is no better, since it's so vague it makes no actual sense.

  3. Those who live in glass houses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's a prince and he's the one complaining about other people being in fantasy land?

  4. well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I didn't vote for him

  5. Obligatory Monty Python by bit+trollent · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am your King!

    I didn't know we had a king...

    I thought we were an autonomous collective..

  6. Better Idea by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ban people from having kiddos if they're not up to the task of actually being a parent.

    If you NEED the Government to step in to keep your kids from playing a game, you are doing it wrong on multiple levels.

  7. The nanny state by fermion · · Score: 3, Insightful
    From the point of view of a king, there is great reason to micromanage the peasants.

    However, the nanny state has proven to have limited success. There will always be losers who can't manage their time or their impulses, and society will always have to deal with these people the best they can. Be it pot, or gambling, or video games, it all comes down to who has the coping mechanisms to succeed in the world, and who is going to waste their lives doing whatever the current cool thing is, in this case Fortnite.

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  8. Re:Then what by lactose99 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yep, no problem there.

    You'll play Pong and you'll LIKE IT!

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  9. lets just try this one out. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    drug deaths per year in the UK: 247 in 2015 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34...

    alcohol deaths per year in the UK: 5,843 deaths in 2017 https://www.independent.co.uk/...

    number of kids having died from the fortnight dance: none.

    *the total count of entitled celebrity pseudo-rulers riding the coat-tails of an increasingly wasteful and arrogant theatrical monarchy into the apocalypse of Brexit remains uncounted, yet is at least 1.

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  10. Re:Come on, more addictive than drugs? by Reaper9889 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think it is plausible that free to play games, where the goal of creating them is more or less to get people addicted (so they buy more stuff), could be more addictive than drugs or alcohol, where the goal is to give plusure. I am not sure if we are there yet, but in principle I could see that happening.

    The important difference between free to play games on one side and drugs and alcohol on the other is that the cost to the individual is much lower. The cost is mainly in terms of time spend on it that could be spend more productively for the games (and lets face it, most everybody waste quite a bit of their time on things), where for drugs and alcohol it futher includes the persons health and that they can easier lead to crimes (because you need to spend much more money on getting a fix and crime is consided an easy way to get money, correctly or otherwise). It also means that it would be harder to ban, because while drugs and alcohol has negative effects on society outside the individual, the negative effects are more exclusively focused on the individual for games.

  11. Re:Ban rock music by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ban rock music
    And dungeons and dragons while you're at it

    And the waltz! And pool halls - that starts with "P" and that rhymes with "T" and that stands for trouble! And hemp - oh, wait, we did that one.

    And most importantly - Blame Canada!

    There's always a moral panic over something. People seem to like them. After all, it can't be bad parenting, it must be something else making my teen act like a teenager.

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  12. Ban the Monarchy! by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fortnite is FAR less of an economic drain for the U.K. than the continued waste of having a pointless "Royal Family" monarchy that doesn't even serve a real political purpose anymore!

    But that said? I gave Fortnite a try and the game held my interest for no more than an hour or two. I know they keep downloading regular updates to it, so it's possible if I got in the mood to play again, I'd enjoy another hour or so of game-play in it? But I already paid to purchase PUBG first, when it was all the rage -- and played it a bit until I got bored with it. So Fortnite *really* just felt like another PUBG after that.

    I see no reason it's any more addictive than any other online game? It just depends what an individual finds the most entertaining and compelling to play, and how much free time they have to invest in gaming. Sure, many kids or teens get hooked on video games and spend too much time on them. But the same parents who gripe about such things are often seen spending too much of their own time at casinos, gambling, or doing other things we could say are "bad for you" and should be banned. In the end, it's simply part of being human.

  13. Re:Then what by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    First they ban fortnights, then what? Weeks? Months? Years?

  14. Fortnite is deliberately designed to be addictive by Lanthanide · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fortnite actually is deliberately designed to be addictive. Tencent bought 40% of Epic games back in 2013 with the explicit intention of making addictive games such as Fortnite that could wring as much money out of players as possible. In 2018 Fortnite brought in $2.4 BILLION in revenue, for a game that is ostensibly "free to play".

    4 prominent employees including Cliff Bleszinski left Epic after the merger due to Tencent's involvement in the company, their plans for monetization of games or both.

    This video covers the general structure and psychological manipulations that the game uses to get kids to keep playing and keep spending money and also talks about the 'in-game concert' that Slashdot had a story about last week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  15. Re:Ban fun things that I don't like by Lanthanide · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Says the guy who has enough free time on his hands to go visit addiction services and see what problems they are dealing with in society, and who has a platform he can use to talk about the problems he has seen with his own eyes.

  16. Re:Oh jeez... by youngone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They have as many propaganda issues as America...

    They have the same propaganda issues as America, largely due to the owners of the propaganda organs being the same people.

  17. You're going at it the wrong way by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Trump and the bulk of our government are all members of Royalty. We just don't call them that, but they got where they got because of enormous amounts of money and connections given to them by their parents; e.g. hereditary. Also they consistently argue that they're ordained by God (e.g. prosperity gospel); e.g. divine right of kings.

    A ruling class by any name would oppress as much.

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  18. Everything old is new... by hiroshimarrow · · Score: 4, Informative

    20 Years ago...

    "[Everquest] shouldn't be allowed," he said. "Where is the benefit of having it in your household? It's created to addict, an addiction to keep you in front of a computer for as long as possible. It's so irresponsible. It's like waiting for the damage to be done and kids turning up on your doorsteps and families being broken down." He also suggested that social media is "more addictive than alcohol and drugs."

  19. Re: Come on, more addictive than drugs? by mcl630 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actually you can't get the full gameplay experience without paying money.

    If you don't buy a skin, then your player's appearance randomly changes between matches.

    If you don't pay money, then you stop getting rewards once you reach level 62 in a season, you also get FAR fewer rewards over that time - if you pay money, you get at least 1 reward every single level up to 62 and then beyond to 100. If you don't pay money, you get a reward every 2-3 levels up to 62 and then nothing afterwards.

    There are challenges that you need to complete any 4 of in order to earn extra experience to level up. You can only complete 3 if you don't pay money.

    None of the things you mention affects "gameplay experience" at all. You're talking about purely cosmetic skins/items, leveling up to unlock purely cosmetic items, and challenges to level up quicker to unlock purely cosmetic items. The game plays exactly the same whether you've spent $0, $20, or $500 on skins and/or battle passes.