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Amazon Is Working On Hot Air Balloon Drone That Approaches Homes Silently (slashgear.com)

Amazon has been granted a patent that describes an "unmanned aerial vehicle with inflatable membrane" that would allow it to approach homes silently. The UAV "would have a balloon hidden inside the chasis," reports Slashgear. "That could be inflated using compressed gas, via a tank or chamber also carried on the drone. When the UAV roamed into an area where noise levels needed to be cut -- such as the delivery location, Amazon suggests -- the balloon could be inflated." From the report: In the process it would mean that the traditional drone propellers would have less work to do, since the UAV's buoyancy would be taken care of by the balloon. All the motors would be required for is general positioning. Amazon doesn't envisage flying the drone like a miniature zeppelin, however. Instead, the balloon system would be used to raise and lower the UAV to and from the delivery location. In that way it could help reduce the noise -- and energy -- involved in achieving a cruising altitude, whereupon the balloon would be deflated and gathered back into its dock.

The drone would proceed to the delivery destination, and then the balloon would be reinflated. That could be used to then gently lower the aircraft to the ground, to leave behind its package. Of course, having an inflating balloon near a system of fast-spinning propellers seems like a recipe for disaster, and so part of Amazon's patent outlines the retracting mechanism by which the two elements would be kept apart. The whole thing would be handled by an onboard autopilot, with the balloon reeled back into the storage area. The drone could either return the gas used for inflation to the compression chamber, or allow it to escape. Indeed, another possibility that Amazon suggests is a completely detachable balloon. That, the patent describes, might then float away, or biodegrade, rather than being reused.

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  1. Creeper by Aighearach · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bezos, come on, don't be a creeper.

    1. Re:Creeper by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Because then he wouldn't make any money based on differences between buying and selling price?

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    2. Re:Creeper by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I do not think you successfully translated the word "creeper."

    3. Re:Creeper by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      The drone comes with a built in camera and microphone and will hang around your bedroom window for a few minutes before delivery, peeking in through the curtains.

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    4. Re:Creeper by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      Well of course.
      How else could it send push ads for nicer drapes and bedsheets
      without judging the cheap WalMart crap you have now?

  2. Patent is not "work" by Moblaster · · Score: 1

    An interesting bit of trivia but why is this news? Companies like Amazon files thousands of patents annually. Most of them never make it into production. It doesn't mean they are "working" on it at all. In fact the idea seems largely impractical on many levels and is probably more defensive than real.

    1. Re:Patent is not "work" by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 2

      It might be news because the blimp drones have been out of stock on ThinkGeek for about a decade now. This means that the prior art is a bit old. This patent should never have been granted.

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    2. Re:Patent is not "work" by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      The patent office doesn't work that way anymore. Everything is granted now, provided the necessary paperwork has been done. Any issues of a patent being valid or not is now decided after the fact in a lawsuit.

  3. Patented... by wolfheart111 · · Score: 1

    Ya, you'll find knockoffs in a a week,,,

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  4. Re:Silent Drone: Dual-Use Technology by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    The machine gun is only for non Amazon Prime members.

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  5. Hot Air Balloon Drone Approaches Homes Silently by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 3, Funny

    They're getting all ready for their Ninja Express Deliveries. They can do in-home deliveries without ever being seen by the cameras. Great for those special deliveries that you don't want the neighbors to know anything about.

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  6. Looks like this patent granted one day late... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

    (n/t)

  7. Steampunk anybody? by prefec2 · · Score: 1

    These people have too much money to play with ideas which are not really scalable and have a ton of issues which are not fixable. For example, wind. Airships and blimps had massive issues in the past. To use hot air does not remove these issues instead it is increasing them, as you need an even bigger balloon to lift the same mass and you need to constantly heat the shit up. It makes more sense to extend the capacity of mass transit in cities to be able to use it for the transport of goods. In a multi-modal transport setup, this is much more efficient. Yes, this means less cars in cities.

    1. Re:Steampunk anybody? by Freischutz · · Score: 3, Funny

      These people have too much money to play with ideas which are not really scalable and have a ton of issues which are not fixable.

      That sounds like a description of the Pentagon.

    2. Re:Steampunk anybody? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Yup. Plus, while this isn't the idea in TFA, some of Amazon's other airship/drone ideas are really... creepy?

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    3. Re:Steampunk anybody? by Livius · · Score: 1

      That sounds like a description of the Pentagon.

      Who also have an interest in drones that can approach homes silently.

  8. Where does the poster get "hot air" from by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The patent says

    ... a compressed gas chamber configured to contain a gas that is lighter than air; an inflatable membrane configured to be inflated with gas from the compressed gas chamber; ...

    this is obviously not a hot air baloon

    1. Re:Where does the poster get "hot air" from by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The patent actually says hydrogen or helium for the lighter than air gas. What a great way to deplete our helium stores, or alternately make very loud explosions possible in our neighborhoods.

  9. Amazon, silent but deadly! by Just+A+Gigolo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Their new slogan,

  10. Hydrogen is a good alternative by thesjaakspoiler · · Score: 1

    Sure Jeff will have a patent somewhere that deals with them drones turning into a fireworks show occasionally...

  11. Physics still says no by feedayeen · · Score: 4, Informative

    A cubic meter of air at standard atmospheric conditions (0C, 1ATM) has a mass of 1.3Kg. If you had a perfect vacuum and somehow the walls were negligible yet able to stand that pressure, a balloon 1 meter in each side would only be able to carry a handful of tubes of toothpaste which are about 0.2Kg each, yet the craft would be the size of a doorway.

    1. Re:Physics still says no by fgouget · · Score: 3, Informative

      Where does it say they are using standard air for it?

      Hint: Archimedes' principle.

    2. Re:Physics still says no by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      You’re thinking backwards. OP is saying that if you somehow managed to achieve a perfect vacuum in the balloon (i.e. the ideal hypothetical condition), it’d still only displace such-and-such air, meaning it could only achieve that much buoyancy. Having established the best case buoyancy possible, filling the balloon with anything more than a vacuum will merely add weight that will then count against that buoyancy, thus reducing your cargo limit.

      That said, I don’t see the problem that the OP sees. Who says the balloon can’t be the size of a doorway or MUCH bigger? If you’re dropping a package off at a designated landing site that’s open to the sky in a person’s yard, which is what Amazon has been suggesting all along, the balloon can be practically the size of the entire yard.

    3. Re:Physics still says no by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Heck, just parachute it out of a plane at 30,000 feet. It will still be about as accurate as Amazon's van deliveries, at least if the giant pile of random free crap that I've gotten over the years is any indication. (BTW, anybody want a pair of women's exercise shorts?)

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    4. Re:Physics still says no by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      If you are looking for about a 10lb (~5kg) carrying capacity, you're talking about a 10 cubic meter balloon, accounting for the fact it's not a vacuum inside, and it needs to be carrying all the winches, drone parts, navigation stuff, and communication parts. (Taking the GP's estimates from above and tweaking them.)

      That means you're looking at a cube that's about 2m (6 feet) on a side. Or a tube that's like 5m (15 feet) long.

      It's one thing for package thieves to drive around looking for unattended packages. It's a much different thing to notify them of a delivery using a car-sized balloon with the amazon logo on it floating high over a neighborhood.

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    5. Re:Physics still says no by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      It's one thing for package thieves to drive around looking for unattended packages. It's a much different thing to notify them of a delivery using a car-sized balloon with the amazon logo on it floating high over a neighborhood.

      This sort of thinking bothers me, because it suggests X won't work because X has a problem, without regard for the fact that the current situation is FAR worse.

      As things stand now, thieves don't need to spot the delivery vehicles or see them making their deliveries in order to steal their packages. They don't need to enter private areas or loiter in ways that would make them obvious to observant neighbors. They don't even need to have any special knowledge or awareness, since any given neighborhood will be ripe for the picking in the early-to-mid afternoon, before people start getting home from work. A thief can be in and out of a neighborhood in a matter of minutes, potentially hitting multiple neighborhoods a day for dozens or hundreds of packages.

      Contrast that with Amazon's drones, which are intended to land in back yards as much as possible:
      - Any given delivery nets the thief just one package, so the payoff is far lower
      - If the thief doesn't observe the actual delivery, they can't easily locate the (back yard) package later, so it's safe
      - Even if the thief knows where the delivery happened, grabbing packages from back yards is far more conspicuous than a casual walk-by
      - The balloon only gets deployed at low altitudes (i.e. below the roofline if you're a few houses away), so thieves will have to already be in the proximity of the delivery in order to observe it, thus limiting the scope of their operations and making them more conspicuous
      - Deliveries don't arrive on a schedule and can come in from any heading, so observing the delivery will require hours of loitering in a neighborhood while continuously scanning the sky, making them significantly more conspicuous while also requiring a lot more work

      Or, in short, it's a lot more work for a lot less payoff. Even if they were to do it in front yards, the fact that the deliveries would be coming in constantly throughout the day means that if you wanted more than one package, you'd have to swing through the neighborhood multiple times a day rather than being able to do a quick drive-by-and-grab. Doing something like that is almost certain to get you caught quickly.

  12. They just need better drivers by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    Forget the pie-in-the-sky delivery drones. Amazon needs to hire better drivers and more of them. Their drivers don't seem to be in any kind of hurry. I'd be happy if they'd hire drivers who could read! Right now I would rank them just a tad below FedEx drivers, but nowhere near as good as UPS drivers.

    All delivery drones (of any kind) will do is make it easier for porch pirates to know which houses are getting the deliveries. Arrrr, matey, follow that drone!

  13. patent by sad_ · · Score: 3, Funny

    it's just one of many patents, until i actually see this drone in action, i consider this patent to be nothing more then a bag of hot air.

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    1. Re:patent by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Companies make a business out of creating randomized patents. The patent creators probably have zero interest in them becoming an actual product. Many companies give out bonuses for filing patents, or worse, create patent quotas for some departments. Seriously I've been somewhere that had a goal for X patents per quarter even for software or firmware. So, churn, churn, churn, and come up with stupid ideas to keep the execs happy.

  14. Hindenburg did that years ago by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Hindenburg did that years ago

  15. Been there, done that by bromoseltzer · · Score: 1

    Tom Swift did it all around 1912. http://tomswiftaeroship.blogsp...

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  16. All it takes... by Wolfrider · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...is one kid with a BB gun or a slingshot, and BAM your delivery is pwn3d. Thank God for Amazon lockers and UPS store deliveries.

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    1. Re:All it takes... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      ...is one kid with a BB gun or a slingshot, and BAM your delivery is pwn3d. Thank God for Amazon lockers and UPS store deliveries.

      It also takes one unarmed kid (or armed kid) a few seconds of noticing your package on your doorstep to steal your package. If kids are going to be causing crimes, the easiest part is after the package is delivered- yet, in most cases that doesn't seem to be a problem.

      Human crime has actually not been a big problem to Amazon deliveries most places and probably will continue not to be... ... there are many holes in this idea, but kids shooting balloons probably isn't one of the more probable ones to cause a lot of problems.

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    2. Re:All it takes... by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      Or a gust of wind and a tree, or some power lines....

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  17. How The Fuck by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 2

    Can someone get a patent on something invented over a hundred years ago? This is ridiculous.
    Runs off to file patent for wheels.

    1. Re:How The Fuck by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Can someone get a patent on something invented over a hundred years ago? This is ridiculous.

      Runs off to file patent for wheels.

      The patent isn't on a hot air balloon, it's on a drone that can adapt to use balloons AND make deliveries.

      Not sure if that deserves a patent, but if it doesn't it's probably more falling under "obvious use" than "prior design". I can't think of any prior use of a convertable delivery drone that inflates balloons on demand when approaching destination.

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    2. Re:How The Fuck by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      If there was not t-shirt involved then why bother?

  18. Shortage of Helium? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hopefully they won't be using helium and then releasing that into the atmosphere since it is becoming rare.

    1. Re:Shortage of Helium? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Hopefully they won't be using helium and then releasing that into the atmosphere since it is becoming rare.

      Motivation for space industry; helium is abundent up there.

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  19. V1 Buzz Bombs by PPH · · Score: 2

    ... went quiet just before they struck their target as well. People said that if you could hear them, you were OK. When you heard the motor cut out, take cover.

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  20. It sounds so ... sinister when you put it that way ....

  21. Re:Silent Drone: Dual-Use Technology by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    The machine gun is only for non Amazon Prime members.

    Amazon Prime members will have access to control the drones that have Primed weapons.

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  22. Re:All this ? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

    All this stuff to deliver my $5 USB cable ???

    Sure it's delivering $5 cable, but it might notice your lawn isn't very green, so suggest fertilizer. It can see you having sex in your bedroom so might suggest curtains on sale. Peaking in through your windows it might see a Roku box and suggest you "upgrade" to the latest Fire Stick instead.

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  23. Would you allow aircraft in your neighborhood? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    "In fact the idea seems largely impractical on many levels..."

    Mod parent up.

    Would you allow aircraft in your neighborhood? Drones can be DANGEROUS!

  24. Silent...but Deadly ?! (SBD) by ripvlan · · Score: 1

    Depends upon how large the item is that this balloon carries. However, if something goes wrong it could be a real stinker.

  25. Re:Wasting Helium.... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    Where are they going to find enough politicians to power the fleet?

  26. What could possibly go wrong? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    News flash: China hacks Amazon air squadrons in unprovoked attack on major American cities, millions killed.

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  27. Reuben Garrett Lucius Goldberg by nsaspook · · Score: 1

    Would be proud.

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