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Deadly Drug-Resistant Fungus Is 'Quietly Spreading Across the Globe' (msn.com)

A drug-resistant fungus called Candida auris "is quietly spreading across the globe," reports the New York Times: Over the last five years, it has hit a neonatal unit in Venezuela, swept through a hospital in Spain, forced a prestigious British medical center to shut down its intensive care unit, and taken root in India, Pakistan and South Africa. Recently C. auris reached New York, New Jersey and Illinois, leading the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to add it to a list of germs deemed "urgent threats...."

In the United States, two million people contract resistant infections annually, and 23,000 die from them, according to the official CDC estimate. That number was based on 2010 figures; more recent estimates from researchers at Washington University School of Medicine put the death toll at 162,000. Worldwide fatalities from resistant infections are estimated at 700,000.... With bacteria and fungi alike, hospitals and local governments are reluctant to disclose outbreaks for fear of being seen as infection hubs.

Even the CDC, under its agreement with states, is not allowed to make public the location or name of hospitals involved in outbreaks. State governments have in many cases declined to publicly share information beyond acknowledging that they have had cases.... [A] hushed panic is playing out in hospitals around the world. Individual institutions and national, state and local governments have been reluctant to publicize outbreaks of resistant infections, arguing there is no point in scaring patients -- or prospective ones.

The Times reports that C. auris targets people with weakened immune systems (including babies and the elderly) -- and that 587 cases of C. auris have already been reported in the U.S., according to the CDC: 309 cases in New York, 104 in New Jersey, and 144 in Illinois. The CDC adds that half the patients who contract C. auris die within 90 days.

It also survived in a room treated for an entire week with aerosolized hydrogen peroxide, according to the Times. "Simply put, fungi, just like bacteria, are evolving defenses to survive modern medicines."

The New York Post adds that "Given the speed at which the inspection spreads, coupled with its resistance to medication, 'the prospect of an endemic or epidemic multidrug-resistant yeast in U.S. healthcare facilities is troubling,' the CDC said in October."

117 comments

  1. Yikes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Hydrogen peroxide isn’t exactly a strong cleanin agent for something that can naturally occur in your body. Maybe look for something a little more deadly

    1. Re:Yikes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, can it resist UV ? These kind of posts always tend to create an atmosphere by omitting a lot of common sense. PANIC , PANIC!! lol DOOOOOM

    2. Re: Yikes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe use some of Microsofts autocomplete AI announced for their developer tool and create trump orange, lets call it a little less powerful than agent orange to attack the fungi that clear snuck through the northern borders.

    3. Re:Yikes by The_Dougster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Really? H2O2 is said to cause cell walls to burst in bacteria and have good antifungal properties. Thats why it provides almost immediate relief for infected teeth. Don't post stuff like this if you have no clue what you're talking about.

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    4. Re:Yikes by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Hydrogen peroxide isn't exactly a strong cleaning agent for something that can naturally occur in your body. Maybe look for something a little more deadly

      Kinda depends on the concentration... At 3% you have what you get at the store, at 80% you have rocket fuel.

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    5. Re:Yikes by piojo · · Score: 1

      Really? H2O2 is said to cause cell walls to burst in bacteria and have good antifungal properties. Thats why it provides almost immediate relief for infected teeth. Don't post stuff like this if you have no clue what you're talking about.

      I don't know much about what it's said to do or who says it, but in the brewing industry, everyone uses something stronger than peroxide. Bleach, chlorine dioxide, and peracetic acid are common. Anionic acid sanitizers and iodophor are faster than peroxide, though not necessarily stronger. Chlorine dioxide and paraformaldehyde were used for anthrax remediation, not peroxide. Am I cherry-picking the data? I don't know of any places peroxide is used, except when the goal is to *not* kill everything, such as in agriculture.

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    6. Re:Yikes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Peroxide is more effect in higher concentrations, but harder to handle safely. The 3% crap you can get at the store doesn't cut it. But if you got some 80% it would be better than anything you listed.

      The problem is if you spilled any of it on your hand the flesh would be gone before you could even get to the sink.

      So, if you really want to absolutely, positively kill everything, high-concentration hydrogen peroxide is definitely the way to go.

  2. Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by DanDD · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Modern medicine and scientific approaches to medicine focus on a pathogen and it's specific cure. The discovery of a pathogen and how to kill it and prevent it's spread probably sparked this paradigm (Louis Pasteur & Rabies), which was reinforced by Koch's Postulates surrounding tuberculosis and anthrax, and cemented by Fleming's discovery of penicillin. This is outlined brilliantly in the book "Microbe Hunters" by Paul de Kruif.

    Now we are discovering that we live in a massively interconnected biological system, and we are playing whack-a-mole. Also, should climate change actually warm things up a bit, I suspect we'll discover all sorts of new breeding grounds for microorganisms that won't play well with us.

    Sadly, it may be required that we re-engineer much more than greenhouse gasses to preserve our concept of a modern society. Humans have significantly changed many aspects of habitats around the globe, which may cause the evolutionary behavior known as Punctuated Equilibrium to create biological changes faster than we can keep up.

    We might want to worry less about losing our job to AI, and start utilizing AI, along with whatever innate intelligence we may think we have, to survive, period.

    Evolution is a tough bitch, and Gaia eats her young, and we may have just given her a new condiment.

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    1. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 Nice post! I almost did a double-take reading it because it reminded me of a well know /. collaborator who lives in San Jose and works in Palo Alto.

    2. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Evolution is a tough bitch, but learning its from it's is a tougher bitch. Kendall is a weaker bitch, hence the lies. Basically there's a bunch of bitches on slashdot.

    3. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come on Chris, we all know it's you trolling Kendall in one of your stupid schemes meant to manipulate /. users opinion and to make us believe that there are evil trolls on /. attacking and accusing innocent users. But no Chris, Kendall doesn't hold any spamming record as you do and you are nuisance not appreciated here. Why don't you leave Kendall alone you sick mind?

    4. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by religionofpeas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So how is holism going to save us ?

    5. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      It won’t, it’s about taking everything with us when we go.

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    6. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by DanDD · · Score: 1, Interesting

      So how is holism going to save us ?

      The same way holism has been allowing humans to develop more interconnected social structures and technologies for many thousands of years:

      First, we don't defecate in our drinking water, it spreads disease.

      Second, we don't procreate with our children or siblings, it causes significant genetic problems that last for generations. Fear not, Rednecks, an occasional kissing cousin might be fine.

      Third, and please try to keep up here, we don't allow psychopathic individuals or organizations to make or enforce policies.

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    7. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by religionofpeas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The three things you mention, we've been doing less in the recent past, compared to "many thousands of years". Doesn't seem to be helping.

    8. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Third, and please try to keep up here, we don't allow psychopathic individuals or organizations to make or enforce policies.

      OY! If only I could give a thousand "Funny" mods for that one!

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    9. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by Archtech · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Third, and please try to keep up here, we don't allow psychopathic individuals or organizations to make or enforce policies.

      Surely you are joking? As far as I can see, the system prevents everyone *except* psychopathic individuals and organizations from making policies.

      Just think of any corporate CxOs you know about, or any senior political leaders.

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    10. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by DanDD · · Score: 1

      Follow the link. I agree with you, we shouldn't be allowing policy to be set as they currently are.

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    11. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A terrific title.

        I am worried at your action conclusion where you say: "...it may be required that we re-engineer much more than greenhouse gases to preserve our concept of a modern society."

      I have a different proposal for you. Suppose we look at changing the velocity of modern society. A 90% reduction in air travel in the next year, and a 50% reduction of all fossil fuel vehicle travel in the next 5 years would greatly slow the spread of this fungus, as well as slow the spread of other biological problems.

      OK, just thinking about this, suppose all the Infrastructure of the Internet was switched according to solar time, as in routers on at sunrise and routers off at sunset. Before the West, Japan used a sidereal solar day of 6 units,and a solar night of 6 units.Would such an operating scheme improve the quality of human thought as transmitted on the Internet?

      While we are slowing things down, how do we change the velocity of money while we preserve the principal?

      So here is what I propose: We slow our society down in the sense of reducing fossil fuel burning and hasty travel, and pay attention to the needs of the people within our society and we also pay attention to preserving the asset and financial structure as the slowdown takes place.

      Now regarding the fear of more unpleasant fungi, well I think every high school and junior college in the USA should have a research protein chemistry lab on site. Like a gas chromatograph and mass spectrometer, gel columns fractionators Ph meter sequencer.

    12. Re:Lacking holism in industrialized medicine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG!

      Evolution is a tough bitch, but learning its from it's is a tougher bitch. Kendall is a weaker bitch

      It does seem rather dumpty-esque. I remember he used to like trying to sic his trolls on other people. He totally believes that some troll collective selected him and will go bother someone else if he can just convince them the other guy is a better punching bag.

      His bullying has nothing to do with his transparent efforts to promote himself, or antagonizing people when they call him out for pasting advertisements.. I'm sorry I used the wrong creimer-ture. People call him out for pastebinning advertisements and then he antagonizes them. Like the time he declared himself to be an internet warrior and that we should all bring it on because his interpretation of the ToS seemed to say that it's perfectly acceptable to advertise random shit in the comments.

  3. In Estonia... by sajavete · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... hospitals suffering from outbreaks post about it in the newspaper and quarantine themselves. Then again, our hospitals don't have to worry about marketing either (shudder).

    1. Re: In Estonia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vladimir, is it you? Or are you Vladimir's sock puppet, The Trump?

      I guess second, due to orthography, but Vladimir does mimetism, so...

    2. Re: In Estonia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because he'll die in prison? What does Trump being a traitor have to do with him being buried under the prison? God damn you inbreds are dumb lol.

    3. Re:In Estonia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Latvia, hospital with potato post about it in newspaper and is quickly overrun with new patients. Elsewhere patients only dream of potato.

    4. Re:In Estonia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In Germany They have some theatres with windows that open to allow fresh air and sunlight. Sunlight kills most bad things.

      In Australai they plan lots of operations back to back , only 8 hours a day to save on nurse costs - so the surgeons have a restriction on operation times - an thus big long waiting lists.

      Like visiting the dentist, the most infectious patients are done last in the day for a deep clean, rather than a wipeover. Now how many hospitals have a rooftop theatre?

      The alternative is closed loop aircond, ducts that preserve spores and spreads them everywhere.

  4. People always want drugs and antibiotics to save t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Maybe we should focus on improving our immune systems by eating healthier and cleaner (read, organic, grass-fed, and definitely non-GMO), avoiding foods we are intolerant of (i.e., ones we're allergic to, test required) and by using vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and herbs instead of barely tested drugs, antibiotics, vaccines, and procedures of questionable effectiveness. Our bodies are made to heal themselves with the right support. You can't have a deficiency of a drug, which likely will give you a nutrient deficiency along with whatever it does or doesn't do. There are also powerful herbs that our bodies have evolved to be symbiotic with and that don't create superbugs but that have both positive effects on our bodies and negative effects on our parasites. There are reams of information and research on herbs and nutrients that provide highly effective methods of prevention and cure for all manner of diseases, even some of the ones caused by modern industry (e.g., insecticides, herbicides, pervasive radiation), but that information is ridiculed, suppressed, and even outlawed in some cases because it comes from nature and can't be patented. Do your own research and don't be intimidated by the medical and pharmaceutical monopolies.

  5. Pharmas ain't doing jack by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We might have a fighting chance against resistant bugs if pharmas did fundamental research on possible cures. But they're much happier putting out endless low-risk, high profit margin respins on aspiring, paracetamol , ibuprofen or prozac.

    Also, they don't have much incentive to create one-off cures. That's why we still don't have an AIDS vaccine or an affordable cure for malaria. Selling litetime drugs is a much more attractive business proposition.

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    1. Re:Pharmas ain't doing jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      from weak chakras too

    2. Re: Pharmas ain't doing jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your proposal, while potentially profitable,is a lot of work. Now suppose we invent a toxic chemical and engineer a bug resistant to everything but that? Spread the bug around, and boom, huge demand for a product we already have.

      Sure it's not quite OxyContin and OxyContin withdrawal treatment money but it's a winner!

    3. Re:Pharmas ain't doing jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah a conspiracy theorist. I think the problem here is thinking there's some regulations on how much a company can sell a cure for. A company can just sell the cure for the same amount it would cost to treat the disease for a lifetime. They set the costs to recover the money they want, but most research is done using government grants, anyway. You know, free money? But it's stupid to think there's one big organization called "Big Pharma" that rules the world's medical community, as it is naive to think developing a cure somehow means a company will make less money. The problem here is one of confirmation bias.

      Any company that develops a cure for HIV or any disease that's as endemic will make that company's stocks soar. No company is going to suppress a cure and risk a different company bringing it to market first. It's stupid to think there's a conspiracy simply because of you don't understand how economics or medicine pricing works. I also saw you use the term "Big Pharma" in another comment in this thread. You do realize medical research just doesn't happen in one country or institution, right? How does "Big Pharma" control what happens at universities, labs, and other countries unrelated to their business? There's no such thing as Big Pharma. The US doesn't control medical research around the world. Even if one company decides to suppress a cure, there are thousands more eager to benefit from their mistake.

      > That's why we still don't have an AIDS vaccine

      You're apparently an expert on HIV, now, too. How would you even know if and when we should have a vaccine or a cure? Have you spent your life studying HIV and trying to develop a cure? How do you know what research is or isn't being done around the world? The fact you called it an "AIDS" vaccine shows what little you know understand. You can't infect people with AIDS. People are infected with HIV. AIDS is a syndrome caused by HIV, and occurs when the virus destroys the immune system to the point the t-cell count reaches a certain threshold. At that point opportunistic diseases can cause active infections and the person is considered to have AIDS. However, not all people infected with HIV get AIDS. Especially with access to modern medicine. So please do not confuse HIV and AIDS. People in industrialized nations rarely progress to AIDS.

      I work in an HIV vaccine trials unit and can tell you there is a ton of research into finding a cure or a vaccine. There's new vaccines being tested now, and many have been tested in the past. There's also research into finding a cure and it's how modern antivirals were discovered. However, once viral replication was completely suppressed, scientists found HIV establishes a latent reservoir that will cause HIV to remerge once the drugs are stopped.

      HIV doesn't have a cure or vaccine yet because it's incredibly difficult to do find one. HIV is highly mutagenic and any vaccine or medication is quickly made useless by mutations. We don't have a cure for HIV yet because the virus establishes a latent reservoir that reactivates when someone stops taking antivirals and causes the infection to re-emerge. But modern medicine has almost cured HIV which used to be a death sentence. Now people with HIV can lead normal lifespans like non-HIV infected persons and can have no risk of infecting others--as long as they have access to modern medicine. Please do not comment on things you know nothing about.

    4. Re:Pharmas ain't doing jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are plenty of ways to deal with resistant bugs:

      1. Just let some people die.
      2. Stop using some of the antibiotics for 5 years. The bugs loose resistance to those. The reintroduce those antibiotics, while pausing some others. Generally, be restrictive in handing out antibiotics since stupid people use them inappropriately. Overuse causes resistance.
      3. Develop new antibiotics, that will work for some years.
      4. Use "resistance blockers", extra drugs that mess with the mechanism bugs uses to survive antibiotics. This has shown impressive results.

  6. Re:People always want drugs and antibiotics to sav by fazig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ah yes, the good old naturalist anti-science post.

    I've got news for dumbasses like you. Vaccines are not like antibiotics or other antimicrobals.
    If you grow a culture of bacteria or fungi in your petri dish and put an appropriate antimicrobal into it, like antibiotics or antifungals, they will kill the cultures.
    If you grow a culture of bacteria or fungi or have viruses in your petri dish and you put an appropriate vaccine into there nothing of consequence happens.

    Why? This is because vaccines work fundamentally different. For vaccines to work a functioning immune system is required in the first place. Only then a vaccine can work by given the immune system an example of a pathogen to prepare against for future encounters. That's the point of vaccines, they improve the immune system.

  7. We won't win by Viol8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the end it'll just be a global case of pathogen whack-a-mole as more and more diseases become resistent to the ever shrinking amount of medicines we have to combat them. When you're talking about fungi, bacteria and viruses that can evolve resistance faster than we can create new drugs to combat them the end game is obvious. Of course in the case of bacteria it could be slowed by farmers not force feeding antibiotics to livestock whether they need it or not.

    I have no idea what the solution is , if there is one, but I suspect in 50 years time the days of taking pills to cure infection may well be over.

    1. Re:We won't win by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 1

      If it gets bad enough we could in theory massively lock down migration, global quarantine. Only goods which can be sterilized and information will be allowed to travel large distances ... not people or animals.

    2. Re:We won't win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drug companies (e.g. Merck)are working to solve the problem, but it's a very difficult problem.

    3. Re:We won't win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aaah, the liberal anti-science formula: apply editorial hysteria to inflate a perceived problem into another excuse to destroy civilization, while automatically rejecting any engineering solutions that more rational people might come up with.

  8. Re:We all came in contact with such a fungus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just can't say his name without getting down modded? Sad. Just fucking sad.

    BTW, His newest video just drop. Something about kidney stones, blood, pus and urine.

  9. well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No need to combat the overpopulation crisis, nature will do it for us.

    1. Re:well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No need to combat the overpopulation crisis, nature will do it for us.

      This is an example of the above. There was a ‘population crisis’ for a few years after WW II, when the surviving troops came home and all started families at the same time. Since then, every country that has industrialized has seen its population growth rapidly decrease. Against all predictions, this includes China and India.

    2. Re: well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their aborting of female infants in the womb will take care of their overpopulation problem.

  10. Ethics in Medicine..? by geekmux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "With bacteria and fungi alike, hospitals and local governments are reluctant to disclose outbreaks for fear of being seen as infection hubs."

    Uh, they're "reluctant"?

    if you have an outbreak in a particular area, then you fucking are an infection hub. Mandatory disclosure for shit like this should be the bare minimum to remove the ethical excuses and help prevent irrational decisions from perpetuating an outbreak.

    And you're going to tell me we simply cannot use the Data here? Forget humans realizing there's an outbreak going on; we should have machines learning and alerting on this as they crawl through our electronic medical record systems all day. Yes, we likely know how fractured medical data warehouses still are, but could still likely be done at the major/regional hospital level that all run the same medical systems.

    Put a few marketing dollars behind it, and you could likely get that data for free by crowd sourcing it. Perhaps voluntary disclosure of symptoms/illnesses in real time from the masses is a way to stay in front of an outbreak in a particular area. Of course, you would also have to validate those claims in some way, otherwise just like everything else crowd-enabled, it risks being abused to distort the truth.

    "Simply put, fungi, just like bacteria, are evolving defenses to survive modern medicines."

    Yeah, or one could peek back at history and consider this particular evolution could have been man-made as well. Stranger things have happened.

    1. Re:Ethics in Medicine..? by The+Evil+Atheist · · Score: 1

      Yeah, or one could peek back at history and consider this particular evolution could have been man-made as well. Stranger things have happened.

      Name five.

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    2. Re: Ethics in Medicine..? by astrofurter · · Score: 1

      "we should have machines learning and alerting on this as they crawl through our electronic medical record systems all day"

      CDC already does this, calling it "disease surveillance". There are several systems in place, however none of them is really comprehensive yet. See for example https://wwwn.cdc.gov/nndss/

    3. Re: Ethics in Medicine..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Your mom
      2. Your uncle
      3. What your uncle did with your neighbor's goats
      4. What you did with you neighbor's goats
      5. The surprisingly large market for videos of you and your uncle raping your neighbor's goats

    4. Re: Ethics in Medicine..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Raping the goats? Have you never heard of implied consent?

  11. At what point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A what point will people admit that intercontinental travel and trade pose serious ecological risks and really need to be better controled. Everything from spreading dangerous pathogens to invasive species hitching rides. I am not saying shut it down but we probably really need to look jet travel and high speed ships and find ways to limit impacts

  12. Re: IT'S THE LYING, YOU TINYDICK NAZI FAGGOT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow! You are so fast Chris. You must be very smart but we already know how you do it because you told us, you clumsy person:

    All you need to do is find a website with a permissive TOS, say, Slashdot, create a Python script to scrape your own comments, sprinkle Amazon affiliate links in various posts, and then re-post past links whenever possible. Won't be long before you start making "coffee money" each month.

    link to your post: https://slashdot.org/comments....

    Back on topic, so? You lie all the time Chris so why would you complain if somebody else did?

  13. Re:The Fake News Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yep, just continue feeding antibiotics as part of their diet to cattle and chicken, the fast profits on agricultural industry is all that matters. No need to limit use of antibiotics on hospitals either, you should just carry on tweeting and watching Fox news.

  14. Re: We all came in contact with such a fungus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First of all you are not funny.

    Second, he/you are more of a mold.

  15. Re:We all came in contact with such a fungus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just drop
    nice crammar chris
    good job

  16. Re:People always want drugs and antibiotics to sav by Ichijo · · Score: 2

    Our bodies are made to heal themselves with the right support.

    I'll believe it when I hear it from a 150 year old person.

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  17. Blame Candida by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is all

  18. Re:We all came in contact with such a fungus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    creimerism ain't too hard
    drop a word, change the tense
    grammar nazis triggered

  19. Re: IT'S THE LYING, YOU TINYDICK NAZI FAGGOT. by Real+Data+Collection · · Score: 0

    This is Chris. The AC you're replying to is not Chris. Thanks for the laugh!

  20. Keep quiet when you have no answers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Typical reaction of something like this, is to keep it hushed up when you don't have a treatment that is effective. Probably shouldn't have handed out anti biotics like candy for decades.

  21. Just the planet trying to correct a parasite issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing to see here fellow parasites.

  22. How Incompetent we are :) by Kuruk · · Score: 1

    I hope medicine picks up its game in the next decade or so.

  23. Science was a false god by DalM · · Score: 0, Troll

    Drug resistant bacteria and fungus
    Climate change
    Artificial intelligence
    Nuclear weapons
    Nuclear meltdowns
    Identity theft

    The list goes on. For every horseman of the apocalypse science has promised to slay, it instead created a whole new one.

    1. Re:Science was a false god by pauljlucas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Science is a method. You're conflating science with technology. They're not the same thing. And very few who understand the scientific method worship it blindly as a god in the same way as the religious worship their gods.

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    2. Re:Science was a false god by iggymanz · · Score: 0

      haha, and you must one of the people that conflate science with the scientific method. Yes, the scientific method is the biggest and most important pillar of science, yet there is scientific work done without it - the business of categorizing and systemic study of reality are also a part of science (look it up). For example, this would include discovering new species or classifying and cataloging stars.

    3. Re:Science was a false god by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      "And very few who understand the scientific method worship it blindly as a god ..."

      "nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

      "... in the same way as the religious worship their gods."

      "Kill them all. For the Lord knows those that are His own."

      Yeah, I think I'll go with Science for $100, Alex, At least in this category you have a chance to change people's minds. Also science isn't a God, it's a method, a procedure. You can (and probably should) get anal over it but unless you suspect / can prove fraud you should take their results and analyze, dissect, object, and run with it and even duplicate it -- show 'em where they're wrong.

      With religion, they're "just right"; The End. Only The Evil One would object to Their Ideas and need to be defeated and silenced to protect The Good Believers. (OT: Why does this also sound like what I hear about SJW activists?)

      It was the ?Catholic Church? who a decade ago was objecting to "The Da Vinci Code" because it might influence the faith of Believers. If a single movie can influence your faith, then you don't have any to start with.

      Also, *I* feel that reincarnation is true, so those viruses and fungi are actually PEOPLE. You're (I'm) talking about killing innocent PEOPLE, you ... you Hitler! Can't we all just get along? ;-)

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  24. Please stop misunderstanding selection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >It also survived in a room treated for an entire week with aerosolized
    >hydrogen peroxide, according to the Times. "Simply put, fungi, just like
    >bacteria, are evolving defenses to survive modern medicines."

    And if 1000000 of people are jumping from a cliff, will they grow wings? It does not work like that. The one (organism) having wings are the one surviving and able to reproduce. That is all there is to it. All is about selection. Evolution is a consequence of selection and selective pressure.

    The fungi's with resistance are the one surviving and reproducing under the selective pressure of fungicide.

  25. Meek by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    The meek shall inherit the earth.

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    1. Re: Meek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The evolved shall inherit the earth.

  26. Re: Exterminate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As long as white trash fuckos like yourself get displaced, Make Humans Brown Again!

  27. Re:Exterminate by belthize · · Score: 0

    I propose a new non-authenticated mode for people to express their views. Call it "Anonymous Stupid Shit Has A Theory"

  28. Quietly spreading??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn, I hate those quiet fungi.

    Give me a noisy fungus any day.

  29. Does it survive UV light? Bleach? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would assume they tried everything.

  30. Nature always bats last by InterGuru · · Score: 1

    We think we are in charge - well we're not!

  31. Re:People always want drugs and antibiotics to sav by MadKeithV · · Score: 1

    Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works?


    Medicine.

  32. Re:People always want drugs and antibiotics to sav by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just because it comes from nature doesn't mean it can't be patented.... aspiring? Derived from willow bark.
    Back in the pre-drug days we had a loooot of dying. The plague killed millions, the Spanish influenza killed millions.. and surprisingly you needed to do more than rub a bit of grass on it and eat non-GMO chicken.

  33. Take off you hoser by Quake1v1 · · Score: 2

    Keep your Candidian fungus in Candida please!

  34. Money talks by spinitch · · Score: 1

    NYT paywalls such a public interest story? The NYT lifts their paywall for elections and other major events. Perhaps share this info , before your audience perishes. Anyway we at least get the headlines and others will run with the story too. Hoping for John Oliver. I will seek other sources to see if there is anything I can do like wave a poster at a wrestling event. Wrestlers susceptible to infectious from sweating and tearing skin on mats not so clean.

    1. Re: Money talks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corporate Progressive fake news journalists have little concern for the public interest. Duh.

  35. Reminds me of by drewsup · · Score: 2

    The X-files S04Ep11 about the fungus ridden migrant worker

  36. Stop practicing medicine by reanjr · · Score: 0

    We have too much medicine being practiced in the world. We're not fighting disease as much as throwing chaos into the system. We start progressing on cancer and then we introduce diabetes. We start whittling away at heart disease and the we give everyone heroin.

    Unless you are in debilitating pain or obviously deteriorating medically, you shouldn't be going to the doctor. None of us should.

    This annual checkup, ridiculous vaccine panel, constant changing dietary recommedation, juice cleanse, organic shopping nonsense is killing us.

    Just chill. You'll be fine. And if you're not fine, take solace in the fact that you can improve the survivability of the species by taking one for the team and letting you genes die out.

  37. slashdot reads zerohedge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coincidence? I think not! https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-06/mysterious-drug-resistant-germ-deemed-urgent-threat-quietly-sweeping-globe?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29

    1. Re:slashdot reads zerohedge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Today would be a good day for you to learn how to properly markup a hyperlink in HTML.

      Mysterious Drug-Resistant Germ Deemed An "Urgent Threat" Is Quietly Sweeping The Globe.

  38. Shhh! It's a secret by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    Go to the hospital, you roll the dice. Good luck...

    Hey! Don't be giving me shit over this comment. This is how they roll. May as well tell you you're on your own. The state exists to protect business!

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  39. Eve answered: The serpent deceived me, and I ate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie.

    Mystery Red of the Great American Eclipse
    It has blood on it!
    ABCNews: Eclipse makes pendulum wander
    Losing my religion
    Sun researchers find strange eclipse reading

  40. Re:People always want drugs and antibiotics to sav by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your post was marked as "Troll" but FWIW I think you legitimately believe what you wrote and that makes you something other than a troll. On behalf of Slashdot, I apologize for that editor's error.

  41. Re:Pharmas ain't doing jack: ORLY? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    Also, they don't have much incentive to create one-off cures. That's why we still don't have an AIDS vaccine or an affordable cure for malaria.

    ORLY?

    I was under the impression that we didn't have a vaccing or cure (affordable or otherwise) because these two pathogens are very hard problems.

    HIV: Like the Black Plague before it, it attacks the immune system directly (via the same target!). Unlike Plague, it works slowly and uses an error-prone replication to mutate VERY rapidly, so an end-stage patient has multiple variants, with what's left of his immune system trying to whack an army of many different types of moles.

    Malaria: Lives and reproduces inside red blood cells, out of reach of the immune system (except when hopping to new ones about once a month). Mature red cells dump their cellular machinery (probably to avoid cancer from the mutagenic environment), so the mechanism cells use to bring signs of internal invaders to the surface runs down. In millions of years of evolution the best mammals could come up with is a genetic bobby trap - sickle cell haemoglobin - which kills about quarter of the kids in order to make 2/3 of the survivors resistant. That being an advantageous tradeoff should also give you an idea of how nasty the bug is.

    --
    Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
  42. And at what point will people talk about ... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1, Insightful

    A what point will people admit that intercontinental travel and trade pose serious ecological risks and really need to be better controled.

    Also: At what point (if any) will we be able to discuss the disease spreading issues of lax border security, without being shut down as "racist hate-mongers" by SJWs?

    The open southern border of the US has now been implicated in the reintroduction of, at least:
      - Measles
      - Drug resistant Tuberculosis
      - Virulent Newcastle Disease
    and I could go on.

    VND is a serious, highly-contagous, viral disease of birds, particularly chickens. (It does occasionally hop to humans, causing eye irritation and/or mild fever, but doesn't propagate.) It has been introduced into the US over the southern border at least three times, apparently in smuggled fighting cocks each time.

    Currently the only solution, once it gets loose in an area, is to kill ALL the chickens in all the flocks, and perform major sterilization on the facilities to wipe out the rather robust virii. (This tends to put egg farmers out of business, because they are paid for the birds themselves, but not the lost egg production from then until the next year, which is as soon as they can get replacement birds.)

    The second time this got loose in California, the state went from the #1 to the #6 egg producer. It's still over a billion-dollar industry so expect similar draconian measures to protect as much of it as possible this time around.

    The third introduction was just a few months back. It's been found in several sites in the LA are, in a showbird in Utah, and a single bird brought to a vet in Redwood City (by someone who moved the bird several times and is NOT cooperating in identifying the movement history of the birtd, or the locations of his other birds). Then (after a couple weeks) an additional outbreak showed up in Arazona.

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    Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
    1. Re: And at what point will people talk about ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liberal are antiamerica and want us real american to suffer with there open boarders!

    2. Re:And at what point will people talk about ... by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      disease spreading issues of lax border security, without being shut down as "racist hate-mongers" by SJWs?

      If we all just emphasize enough with the virus and diseases AS WELL as the illegal immigrants, they'll all start to play nice.

      See -- wasn't that easy?

      --
      If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
    3. Re:And at what point will people talk about ... by sjames · · Score: 1

      Virulent Newcastle Disease

      So you're saying we need a wall to stop those no-good illegal chickens from crossing the border? The chickens tend to be smuggled in through legal ports of entry. It's hard to herd chickens across the desert.

      People bringing in drug resistant TB fly in, It is most prevalent in South Africa and the former Soviet Union (others say China and India rather than South Africa). A wall won't help that either.

      Likewise, since Measles was imported from Israel, Ukraine, and the Philippines, it flew in and a wall wouldn't help. Goof healthcare and free measles vaccines would be more helpful.

      What will help is if we quit wasting time and money on legally questionable cell phone searches, don't start wasting money on a wall, and instead spend it on better searches for smuggled chickens and health screenings.

    4. Re:And at what point will people talk about ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's hard to herd chickens across the desert.

      Easy. Just build a road. Chickens are ALWAYS crossing roads...

    5. Re:And at what point will people talk about ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Chickens are ALWAYS crossing roads...

      Why?

  43. Re:Pharmas ain't doing jack: ORLY? by HiThere · · Score: 2

    It's actually both. It *is* a difficult problem, but the pharma companies are also reluctant to work on cures. They need to recoup the development expenses, and people keep complaining if too much is charged for a dose. So it's much better if you get them dependent, so they don't dare cause you to just withdraw from the market.

    Both effects are well documented. It's not just one. Eliminating either would produce improved results.

    That said, large numbers of companies have invested huge amounts of effort trying to cure or treat altzheimers. Some companies have gone broke doing it. So who pays for the failed attempts? It has to happen.

    Yes, the system is broken. But simple fixes won't work. My thought is the development should be separated from vending into totally separate entities, but then how is the development paid for? And how are the directions for research chosen?

    --

    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  44. Re: IT'S THE LYING, YOU TINYDICK NAZI FAGGOT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, that page doesnâ(TM)t exist

    Nope, you and the ACs are chris. We know your scheme fat boy.

  45. I'm rooting for the fungus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nyuk-nyuk-nyuk

  46. Re:People always want drugs and antibiotics to sav by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Same as naturalist homeopathy.

  47. There's ... by PPH · · Score: 2

    ... a fungus among us.

    --
    Have gnu, will travel.
    1. Re:There's ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A mushroom goes into a bar and sits down to order a drink.

      The bartender walks over and says, ''I'm sorry sir, but we don't serve your kind here.''

      The mushroom sits back and asks, ''Why not? I'm a fun guy (fungi)!"

  48. Re:People always want drugs and antibiotics to sav by dargaud · · Score: 1

    Yes, but has there never been evolution of pathogens around vaccines ? I don't see why that shouldn't be possible. After all, it should only take the one right mutation to get it to be ignored by the host immune system...

    --
    Non-Linux Penguins ?
  49. Fake news. Read your bible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is fake news, spread by the libtard mainstream media in order to promote dangerous vaccines and antibiotics. The reality is that a belief in god protects you from ALL threats and the weak willed liberals ideas of this time do not.

  50. Where's the science? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why aren't they fighting it? I guess they're giving up because they'd rather make treatments that get you hooked on their drugs for life.
    No research into finding a cure anymore, it's not profitable.
    Instead they tell us to take less antibiotics because that'll somehow limit the evolution of these. Bullshit.
    That's like saying don't use bug spray because you're making superbugs.

  51. Re:People always want drugs and antibiotics to sav by anarcobra · · Score: 1

    Have you ever heard of the flu?

  52. Re: Exterminate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you know the poster was white?

  53. Re: Exterminate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fucking Whoosh!

  54. Re:Exterminate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alabama wants its IQ back.

  55. Re:People always want drugs and antibiotics to sav by fazig · · Score: 3, Informative

    Of course there is evolution in pathogens. The common cold and influenza are good examples here. Luckily for us humans, both of these are benign in most cases where humans have a working immune system and take some time to rest.


    The main difference between our immune system and these antimicrobials is that antimicrobials can not adapt.
    These are basically inanimate poisons for the pathogens, which destroy their cell membranes and or otherwise inhibit their ability to reproduce.
    Our immune system however is capable of 'learning', it can adapt to new circumstances.

    The problematic pathogens we are talking about here are microorganisms that generally can exist outside of a host. Microorganisms whose metabolisms are pretty flexible and they can get their energy (food) from various sources.
    Now these kinds of bugs, which can replicate as long as there's food (and water) and some places that weren't sterilized thoroughly enough, are always exposed to the same kind of antagonist.
    And due to their short replication cycles the likelihood of developing a resistance against that particular antagonist is increased.
    This makes the overuse of these antimicrobials concerning, while disinfecting hospital equipment or hospital space in general, when doctors prescribe unnecessary antibiotics for things like inflamed throats because colds or flus (which are caused by viruses), when livestock is unnecessarily fed antibiotics and so forth.


    When it comes vaccines you can think of it this way: Pathogens will enter in the human body no matter what.
    Strengthening the hosts natural immune responses does reduce the time frame in which they can mutate inside a host.
    It also reduces the time frame during which the host may infect other hosts.
    Hypothetically a super bug could emerge here as well, we should not deny this possibility. For example if a host was constantly exposed to a significant enough external supply of these pathogens, this may be a plausible scenario.

    The big question would be if we're artificially speeding up that evolution with vaccination like with the overuse of antimicrobials or not.
    Fortunately empirical evidence with cases like polio or small pox support the assumption that pathogens don't fare as well against a vaccinated adaptive immune system than against these 'static' antimicrobials.

  56. They say ozone kills mold by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Does it kill fungus if you "fumigate" the room/building?

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  57. Re:Exterminate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I propose a new non-authenticated mode for people to express their views. Call it "Anonymous Stupid Shit Has A Theory"

    If you're so superior, why don't you post your REAL NAME and HOME ADDRESS.

    Otherwise, you're just an anonymous cunt with a user ID.

    Hopefully you will soon get a dose of candida auris up your faggot ass and die.

  58. Re: Exterminate by baristabrian · · Score: 0

    Says just another AC.

    ~ Brian Ansorge
          P. O. Box 11062
          Hilo, Hawaii 96721

    (Iâ(TM)m homeless, hence the PO Box)

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    -- "I'm not in a hurry; I'm in Hawaii." The Homeless Guy