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DES III starts Today (Upgrade Those Clients!)

David Hallowell writes " The DES III Contest is starting today at 5pm (GMT). Members of the distributed.net RC5 teams should make sure they download the latest client as they contain optimised code and a faster switchover to the DES contest. The DES contest will last for a maximum of 56 hours and the $10,000 prize will only be available if it is cracked within 24 hours. After that the prizes are on a sliding scale until it reaches 56 hours after which there's no prize."

32 comments

  1. Starts in 1 hour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For those of you who don't speak GMT, the contest starts in approximately 1 hour (as of the time of this post) Get yer client!

  2. Any Clue What Deep Crack Runs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you guys have any idea what OS the Deep Crack machine runs? It would be a waste to run anything other than Linux (Hopefully Unix at least)... :-)

  3. Any Clue What Deep Crack Runs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AFAICR a custom system controlled by a Linux-Box. Check their Website.

  4. So, when does it actually start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's talking about a universal update at 1715 GMT. Is that when it really starts?

  5. it started! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Identifier: DES-Challenge-III
    Cipher: DES
    Start: January 18, 1999 9:00 AM PST
    Prize: -
    Key:
    IV: da 4b be f1 6b 6e 98 3d
    Plaintext:

    Ciphertext:

    bd 0d de 91 99 60 b8 8a 47 9c b1 5c 23 7b 81 18 99 05
    45 bc de 82 01 ab 53 4d 6f 1c b4 30 63 3c ee cd 96 2e
    07 c6 e6 95 99 9c 96 46 5a 95 70 02 02 70 98 bd 41 c2
    88 a9 f0 2f 8b e5 48 20 d2 a8 a0 6b bf 93 de 89 f6 e2
    52 fd 8a 25 eb d0 7d 96 83 ee a4 2d c8 8d 1b 71

  6. Error: FTP/HTTP server hosed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arrgh! The ftp/http server is Slashdotted!

    Anybody got a mirror?
    (linux glibc2-mt)

  7. Mirror (linux only) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just put up a small mirror since ftp.distributed.net seems to be very busy.
    You can find some of the linux-x86-versions
    (libc5/glibc2, mt or no-mt) at

    http://home.student.utwente.nl/w.k.havinga

    Idaho - Being to stupid to remember his password ;)

  8. Another mirror for linux clients by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here is another mirror for multithreaded linux clients (glibc and libc5):
    ftp://nucleus.med.upatras.gr/pub/des/

  9. Where is deep crack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to: http://www.distributed.net/des/proxyinfo.html
    deep crack/ EEF has yet to submit blocks? Maybe they just do it at the end...
    Anyone know if it is actually working?

    A cracking summary is at http://www.rsa.com/conf99/des/

    While according to the first link:

    At the current Distributed.Net rate of 95.31 Gkeys/sec, we are doing
    15338608 blocks a day.
    Current as of Mon Jan 18 20:40:03 1999 GMT

  10. EFF already one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    the EFF already cracked it.

  11. Impressive responses. by Eric+S.+Smith · · Score: 1

    I'm impressed with the quality of responses to this question. Where are the legions of flamers who'd have posted stuff like "ITS a DEADICADED MaCHINE STUUPID! There shuld be LISENSES REQIRED to post to ./!!!!"? And, more importantly, how do we keep said legions from returning?

    Excuse me while I bask in civilization for a bit.

  12. So, when does it actually start by whoop · · Score: 1

    My personal proxy was able to pull DES packets down, but my clients don't seem to want to start them. They were giving that same message about 1715, but that just hit and now they say something like:

    [Jan 18 17:15:00 UTC] Buffer update scheduled in 7 minutes 52 seconds

    Go figure...

  13. Sliding scale by drwiii · · Score: 1

    It's a shame that the reward diminishes as the contest progresses.. Oh well. As long as we overtake the Mac team I'll be happy.

  14. Hosed server, mirrors anyone? by Jordy · · Score: 1

    You'd think they'd provide clients more than a few hours before they start doing this, especially when their server is so overloaded you can't even connect.

    Anyone got a mirror?

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  15. hyper macs on distributed.net? by deno · · Score: 1
    Something weird happened with the OS-statystics on the distributed.net.
    The "total number of blocks cracked by Mac clients" has jumped from 321536935 to 1174254928 in only nine days (Jan 5th to Jan 14)!

    To be clearer: 1174254928/321536935 = 3.65..!

    The best thing is that I have e-mailed some of the distributed.net people (nugget first, later also dbaker,moose and silby) to ask what's going on. Imagine what have they answered? Nothing.

    Am I the only one who doesn't like this?
  16. Sliding scale by Phil+Gregory · · Score: 2

    This contest ought to be finished before we have a chance to look at the stats. (Although maybe Nugget'll post the stats after the fact.) The dimishing reward provides a nice incentive to get the contest done quickly. (And shows everyone just how weak DES is.) Distributed.net's stated purpose is "to serve as a gathering point for research and projects related to distributed processing." I'd say that reworking the clients to handle a rapid changeover to a new contest took a lot of thinking and programming.


    --Phil (Can't wait until v3. With source available, I might be able to run it at work.)

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  17. Use the proxies! by John+Zero · · Score: 1

    As distributed.net's server is hosed, you'd better try a proxy...

    Like: jp-proxy.gildea.net

    That goes like: rc5des -a jp-proxy.gildea.net and you're off for good! It's much faster...

  18. The definative answer: Linux by Nugget94M · · Score: 1
    The cracking boards themselves aren't smart enough to be considered as running an "OS". They simply receive keyspace/contest parameter directives and crack away. The "controlling" machine is, indeed, running Linux. This is different from the DES-II-2 contest where the controlling machine was a Windows box.

  19. proxy... by Frederic54 · · Score: 1

    since a month maybe, my client have LOT of difficulties to connect to a proxy to fetch/flush whatever rc5/des-test it is... i have a lot of bad request or bad thinggy...
    if you look the stats page you'll see at the end that there's glitches!
    des-iii will be "cracked" by hardware in some hours anyway
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  20. Any Clue What Deep Crack Runs? by Joe+Decker · · Score: 2

    Almost certainly nothing approaching a
    big-ol' multiuser system. A system like
    that, you'd probably either write everything
    from top to bottom yourself, or use some
    sort of standard RTOS. My money is on the
    former, but I don't know for sure.

  21. EFF already one. by Joe+Decker · · Score: 2

    Pretty impressive that they did this before
    the problem was actually released. :-)

    You're probably confusing this with the
    contest six months ago. Check the RSA web
    site for more details.

  22. probably 30 hours more by datazone · · Score: 1

    at the current rate, if it is possible for the DES to be cracked within the next 30 hours. depending that the numbers don't start to go down, and that they get a slow but steady increase in users to compensate for the few users who will start to drop out...

    lets see if my prediction is right...

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  23. Mirror Here by Drew+M. · · Score: 1

    Only got the Linux glibc2-mt, have fun.
    Jeez, I hope I'm not doing anything illigal by distributing this myself.....
    Oh well Download Here

  24. Mirror here by Drew+M. · · Score: 1

    Only got mt-glibc2, have fun
    Jeez, I hope I'm not doing anything illigal by distributing this....
    Oh well Download Here

  25. So, when does it actually start by Yath · · Score: 1

    My client grabbed a DES block at 17:17, finished it, sent it back to the server, and promptly went back to working on RC5.. go figure.

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  26. AMD K6-2 300 / Win98 system lockup with DES client by Latrell+Sprewell · · Score: 1

    Ugh, the new DES clients with MMX bitslicing locks up my AMD K6-2 300 / Win98 system hard. I have to use the older clients (build 421 Win32) that use the ByrdDES core. Unfortunately, this is 3x slower than the MMX-bitslicing code!
    (Oh well, I'm done with my pity party.) ;)

  27. Flipping server errors... by JerkBoB · · Score: 1
    "The world's fastest computer," eh? Well, apparently their database server is "unable to handle the load" today.

    Trying to join the slashdot team and keep getting server errors when I try to do anything other than view static html pages.

    *grumble*

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    Unless it's down, or slow, or fails to POST!
  28. Any Clue What Deep Crack Runs? by Icy · · Score: 1

    From http://www.cryptography.com/des/index.html:

    When a search unit finds a potential match, it stops until the the controlling computer (a PC running Windows 95 or Linux) retrieves the key and restarts that search unit.

  29. Hosed server, mirrors anyone? by Icy · · Score: 1

    They have been there for a few days

  30. Error: FTP/HTTP server hosed by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    Does anybody have the solaris/ultrasparc client?
    I can't connect to distributed.net (/. effect)

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  31. Any Clue What Deep Crack Runs? by purple · · Score: 2

    I'm willing to bet it's a custom operating system. Why port Linux to custom hardware that serves one purpose, and one purpose alone: Take a whole lot of keys, and crack crack crack.

    Sure, linux has some great multitasking features, and it's very diverse. But it really isn't very powerful when it comes to multiprocessor support, nor do they really need task swapping...

    They said it was all "controlled" by a PC, though. I would imagine that that's a unix box... I can't imagine EFF running Windows :)

    I'm doing my part, 4 PIIs cracking in the office. I'll try to load up some more in the next hour.

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  32. How to join slashdot by NaTaS777 · · Score: 1

    So how does one join the slashdot team with the new clients?
    Natas
    http://natas.startx.org

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