Mega HTML Periodic Table

Calcbert sent us a link to one of the best browser stress tests I've seen in awhile. Lucent has a Periodic Table of the Elements online that makes the tables in Slashdot seem nice and minimal. How does Gecko take on that beast? Maybe more important is the fact that I now know what Ununbium is. I thought it was a radioactive card game. Ooo knew? (god it must be late, my jokes actually worse than usual. Didn't know that was possible) Here's another one that has more data, but it doesn't have quitethe same stress testing potential. But now I know the half life of Ununbium too.

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hmm

[xyster]

Because of the complexity of this page, certain browsers may not display it correctly. Your browser does not
support client-side scripts and is most likely insufficient for viewing this page.
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hm..lets see..have ns 4.5 under 2.2.1?

i need an external program for a table? wtf?

I wish to start no flame wars

[jandrese]

Hmm, renders just fine on my SGI O2 with Netscape 4.5. Of course I can't run IE natively (and it takes FOREVER to render under Softwindows, but that is not IE's fault (I think)).

I wish to start no flame wars

[John Campbell]

Hmm... that's odd. It's nice and fast and looks fine on Netscape 3.01 under XF86 3.3 and Linux 2.2.1, and on a machine that falls far short of the minimum requirements for even running Win98, at that...

NS 3.04 under winblows works fine with the page

[Frandsen]

> Because of the complexity of this page, certain
> browsers may not display it correctly. Your
> browser, Netscape Navigator version 3.04, is
> sufficient for viewing this page.

It sure is. :)

If this is news then...

[BadlandZ]

Man, if this is news for nerds, what does that make me? Considering I must have found at least 50 periodic tables on the web over two years ago and bookmarked all of them...if this is news for nerds, and it's just hitting slashdot now, I must be like a mega-nerd (now I am depressed).

I must admit, these are rather "tame" tables...compared to some of the more elabrated Java ones I have seen...Uh...Try a search engine ;-) I'm going to settle for my Periodic Table coffee mug, cause I can take it with me and I don't have a laptop with wireless... (what I really need is to find one of those places that sells "vi help" coffee mugs...I need another periodic table like I need a ___)

Stress test?

[red_dragon]

I viewed both pages with NS4.05 under NT running on a P5/233, and they displayed almost instantly. Freshmeat is a much bigger load for the browser than that table.

Same here

[marcus]

Running on slackware 3.0+(sort of, lots of updates since 3.0 was installed)...Netscape 4.05 cruises right along. No problems on the periodic tables(all fast and clean), no problems with /. or FM either. Plays on-line realtime java games just fine(try battlefield at bonus.com). The usual method for browsing /. is to open-link-in-new-window with center button click and read on from there. Some threads and branches and replies produce dozens of windows. It all works fast and proper with no problems at all.

I must admit that it flunks the layout test at the mozilla site, but it doesn't crash.

Uptime record 132 days was recently halted for hardware re-arrangement :-( I use this box to build online database applications using apache/perl/mod-perl/mysql/postgresql/jdbc and the online shopping package called minivend. It also functions as email server for my family so it's not exactly just sitting there idle all day either.

slashdotted already???

[Rendus]

Both sites are fine on my end.

Yep, Slashdotted already!

[Ken Broadfoot]

I could not get it either...

Looking forward to it though.

forget that...

[Ken Broadfoot]

That is a nice site!

8th grade project no less?

Uhm, that site's not so complex

[Tumbleweed]

The HTML is perfectly fine - there's a fair amount of data there, sure, but no big deal. This is, of course, in contract to the HTML spit out by Slashdot, which I'm betting isn't even valid HTML. I can't tell, of course, because the thing is formatted so badly I can't even read it. :(

web design

[dumptruck]

lucent: "setting the standard in web design"

thats some standard that they got going there

isn;t lucent a different company?

hmm

[QueenFrag]

as did HotJava1.1.5, with blackdown's jdk1.1.7v1a

Weird coincidence

[Nemesys]

I had just been memorising Tom Lehrer's chemical elements song when this story came up!

ok, answer THIS!

[CtrlAltDel]

that site came up juuuuust fine under ns4.5

yet freshmeat crashes me CONSTANTLY...figure *THAT* one out!

Periodic table with more *pow* and *zap*

[soward]

It may not give your browser the same workload, but if you're into this chemical sort of geekdom, check out:

http://www.uky.edu/~holler/periodic/periodic.htm l

christ

[malus]

i dumped the source into hs4, it puked... tables rule.

not that i like m$, but...

[pen]

being very bored, i once tried a simple test. i made a little html file with 10 layers of nested tables. netscape took about a minute to load it, and stopped at 7 layers. ie loaded it in a few seconds and loaded all 10 layers correctly. surprisingly, as far as i remember, opera performed quite well.

ironically, i also like ie better when reading slashdot, since netscape stubbornly forgets to save the place i leave a page at, so i keep having to scroll down. for everything else, netscape is better tho.

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Looks fine with KFM

[Midnight Coder]

KFM from KDE 1.1 works fine.

I am becoming more and more convinced there is no point replacing it with Gecko.

Anyone tried KFM III?

Speaking of web browsers and tests and such...

[Zontar The Mindless]

Dear AC:

Gecko IS a BFD. It's the biggest BFD to hit the Web since the original Mosaic. You see all those little standards thingies at w3c.org? Well, Gecko supports all of them, and it's only a friggin' alpha.

BTW, your remark "It takes getting sold to AOL..." is WAAAAYYYY offbase. Gecko was standards-compliant before the sale was even a gleam in Steve Case's eye.

If you had any idea of what the hell you were talking about, you wouldn't be posting FUD as an AC, now would ya?

Didn't think so.

Zontar

(somewhere in tenn.)

Plays some sour notes w/ Opera tho'

[Grell]

Might look good to Netscape (which the page said I was using.. not :) But that little beauty sure reams Opera a new one when you scroll around on the page.

Anyone else notice how the Opera browser seems to have problems w/ images?


~Grell

For those of you without hope, we have rooms with color TV, cable and air conditioning.

I wish to start no flame wars

[Mooset]

But, I just thought that I would point out that Internet Explorer 4.72.3110 under Windows 98 handles this test quickly and flawlessly, while Netscape 4.07 under XFree 3.3.2 and Linux 2.2.1 creeps along forever and produces barely passing results...

*Crawling into the flame proof suit...

A third table...

[afniv]

Here's a thrid periodic table at:
http://ww w.shef.ac.uk/chemistry/web-elements/nofr-key/perio dic-table.html

This site includes MUCH information on electron configuration, physical properties, history, and much more. What's interesting are the humorous cartoons and .au files to educate the correct pronounciation of the element name.


~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
"We could be happy if the air was as pure as the beer"

That's mostly Javascript,

[Axe]

...not HTML - it is not the same, is it? (sorry, I am rather dumb in this area)

I prefer this site...

[Jess]

http://www.dne.bnl.gov/CoN/index.html

reading in user agent

[jonbrewer]

It is just a stupid javascript that can't tell what your browser is. Kind of like reading in user agent with a cgi. Maybe you are reporting something other than 4.5.

you are so right.

[jonbrewer]

IE 4.0 is a great browser.

I do a lot of my work (Intranet) with CSS now, and Netscape never fails to piss me off with its miserable non-compliance to standards that have been around since 1996. Especially in how it renders tables, and forgets inherited properties. Yuck.

loading time

[Space]

I tried netscape 4.5 and mozilla in Win32 and neither choaked on the page. Loaded in about the same time.

forget that...

[Artemis]

I have to say I do like chemicalelements.com's table more, but both are still useful tools.

My site contains 100% GPL'd source code :)

Torture???

[Compuser]

This page, AFAICT, contained a puny javascript
and an HTML table. What's so difficult to render?

Looks fine without JavaScript

[crow]

It looks just fine with Netscape 3.04 with Java Script turned off. With Netscape 2.02, I expect it would look funny as that doesn't support background colors for tables or cells.

JavaScript: More evil than Microsoft

What's the big deal?

[Straker Skunk]

This thing loaded up in less than a second. Scrolls smooth and nice too. This is stress?

(for Netscape 4.08, anyway. BTW, that is some pretty nifty-looking HTML)

IMO, if you really want to load down a browser, go to freshmeat. I love how NS chokes up for ~5 seconds "thinking" over the page. Or better yet, load up any page (dern if I could remember one now) that has a multi-column full-width table with 500+ rows. Use your thumbwheel, too. Doth I hear a hard drive page? :-)

forget that...

[lucifel]

not to be a prick but that was orginially linked above... at least on mine...

Torture... I think so... Oops. Html formatting

[Anonymous Shepherd]

If I tried to do this in raw html, I would say there would be six cells in each elemental cell...
AAB
AAC
DDDDDD
EEEEEE

And outside each cell are blank border cells...
ABBBBBBC
DE
DE
DE
FGGGGGGH
In order to create the outlines...
Not to mention the legend, groups, captions, and the rare earths...
It is a very convoluted, but relatively pure, html.
If they had a frame on the right, they could have forgone the javascript entirely, as well as included some more info(like valency, radioactivity, reactivity, etc...)
AS

forget that...

[kneel]

There's a much better periodic table, chemicalelements.com, that my good buddy Yinon created. Check it out.

but..

[kneel]

I believe Yinon was only sixteen...

So there...