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OpenGL on Newton
tomaasz@iol.cz writes "there
is now full opengl on the newton PDA! cool. will q3a work
on that thing? no? so what is it good for? aaah, I see,
screensavers...
read all about it on opengl.org"
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If only someone would port Linux to the greatest PDA ever! Well, it's a StrongARM, so it's basically ported already. Someone make it work!
Hi, My name is...what, my name is....
Another pointless post, JUST LIKE THIS ARTICLE.
Um, what the hell are you talking about?
I thought Apple cancelled that toy.
They did. But that doesn't mean people threw them out.
You are a pointless human, now go and dig your own grave and die.
Yet you took the time to write that, and make a
comment on this "pointless article".
You morons are a real piece of work.
Big fucking deal.
(another newton-underground reader I see)
It was ONLY a year ago the Newton was Steved.
Too bad Steve Jobs Ego is so big and petty.
NI 2.X actually worked. And the 2X00 was fast enuf to do the job. The Newton Inc. group had a palm-sized Newton.....all gone.
For now, Jobs has to re-convince the world that Apple isn't filled with clueless strokes, and that the new handheld won't be Steved too...
Q: How many Newtons does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Three. One to awea asdflkj zxgkllkg gak askl bl;kjh;lkjb lklkdjgf
This joke still cracks me up!
the only way i could express what i feel now is by saying, wow.
Well, actually, i dont feel anything even remotely like "wow". i think maybe "huh?" would describe things better.
How about this: forget newton. when are we gonna see some opengl on, say, a mac?
How about this: forget newton. when are we gonna see some opengl on, say, a mac?
never!
oh, wait, that's not true. I already have opengl on my mac. my bad.
Rather than porting ANY Open Source OS to a company that is ANTI Open Source or to a dead platform, why not support the projects to port to LIVE hardware?
Psion 5 port of Linux is a good example of live hardware.
But the Newton hardware kicks ass, plus it's already ported to StrongARM. Psion sucks.
I bet you could make a bitchin' Beowulf cluster with a few of those...
No, no, it's funnier the original way:
How many Newtons does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Foux. There to axe lemons, own gravy soup.
Cool, now I'll know that my PDA of choice is obsolete in 3D...
Try that with winCE.
Sounds true enought to me. After all, they're solid-state.
Damn! Had the Newton not been nixed, I would have gotten one instead of my Palm III! I'll have to watch my bro' play with it on his Newt. instead. Rock on, Apple!
I just dl'ed it and loaded it up. Wow! Just...wow.
Steveing the Newt has to rank near the top of the list of 'Apple's Most Boneheaded Moves'. Fwiw, the Newton Inc folks were into openness - probably one of the reasons Steve axed them (Also, fyi, most of the dev support and many of the r&d newt people are working for Palm now).
Also fyi, the NewtOS 2.x *does* support color - even though the screens on the devices that shipped were just 4-bit grey-scale. With a PCMCIA VGA adapter (there are a couple with the appropriate drivers/sw) you can display full color images with a Newt - I know a couple sales/mkting types that use such a setup to present their presentations. making notes in real time on slides with their newts while walking around the front of the room talking - *very* slick.
Sorry about posting as an AC, I managed to misplace/forget my nick/pwd.
jeff@primordialsoft.com
From what I understand (from sources previously very 'close' to the Newton team) the Newton was 'Steved' because Apple tried to spin it off (Before Steve... the team *loved* this) and then reabsorbed it a couple months later (After Steve), at which time more than half of the team, including just about everybody who was a prime mover, spontaneously quit. No Newton team = no more Newton.
Sad, but not a boneheaded product-killing move... more like a boneheaded reversal of a decent decision, coupled with not bothering to ask anyone what they thought of the situation. Sorta typical Steve.
There are several replacement handwriting
schemes for the PalmOS platform. Most are
implemented as HackMaster hacks.
As for the original Graffiti, I thought at the
time it was a bit weird, and I'd give it 15
minutes of my time. 10 minutes later, I was
picking up speed, and I haven't looked back since!
You can always pick "Keyboard" from the menu
anyway, to pop-up a virtual keyboard, and there's
even replacements for that (which are supposed
to improve productivity)
>> Rather than porting ANY Open Source OS to a company that is ANTI Open Source or to a dead
:)
>>platform, why not support the projects to port to LIVE hardware?
Well, there are lots of ports of great software to "dead" platforms, thats what keeps em alive... and no one ports anything to "a company that is ANTI Open Source...", just to its products, which provides value ONLY to the user, not the company (in this case Apple/Newton Inc.).
Why not just support any such ambitious projects? I have owned several Newtons, still carry my favorite of the bunch, a clear-case 110, an ancient beast yet it still provides me pleasurable use daily, and aside from the lack of backlighting and a little more heft (which is actually good, it feels solid when Im drawing on it), is WAY better than the Palm III I also carry. The Palm III is great for its compact size, but Ive never gotten used to its Graffiti and it always suprised me that their designs are so clunky (squared edges, awkard and everchanging serial port interface) and the stylus' so flimsy.
Hey, ever seen a web server running on a newton? nhttp i think its called... all those articles a while back about mini web servers gave me a good chuckle as id seen tiny devices (WITH LCD and powersupply) server pages long before
Binary Boy
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
-- Derek Bok,
Anti-OSS? Not so much as you might think...
Consider this: Apple makes MkLinux, an Open-Source variant of Linux based on the Mach microkernel, which is also Open-Source. I also ask you to notice that the last developer seeds of OSX Server included the source for the entire command-line layer; it included source from all three of the Open-SOurce BSD variants and was quite up-to-date.
Does Apple make proprietary products? Yes; I don't know of a software company which makes products for anything other than Linux that doesn't. Are they anti-OSS? No. What are they, then? I don't think there's a term. Perhaps "proprietary but OSS-friendly" fits?
This one actually happened, however, which makes it even funnier.
Some college professor had just bought himself a Newton and was proudly showing it off to his class. He was demonstrating the handwriting recognition, and he went into the "How do I..." box to fill in the box with something ("translate," I think it was).
The Newton's translation: "bite me."
Honsetly, I do think that it's better than having to learn a new style of writing; however good that might be it still isn't intuitive, and therefore can never be "good enough." I do hope someday the Pilots will get real handwriting recognition, therefore; they're great machines (frankly I want one myself) but the machine should be made to accomodate the person, not the reverse.
Anyone else get the feeling this 'story' isn't true?
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Well, the Newton is dead, and the Newton doesn't
have color display.
What is the OpenGL for?
I think it has no meaning.
Excerpt from the source of the web page:
:)
:)
:)
;)
OpenGL is a registered trademark of Silcon Graphics Incorporated.
To get more information about OpenGL, visit thier website at www.OpenGL.org
Thier website is not on yer server
I hope this is just a misspelled error
On the other hand it's not very nice to create a page, and immediately advertise it on slashdot.. Maybe you should wait someone else to recognize your creation and request that it's published here
Flame ON
Look at the link.. :) look at where it's pointing.. :)
Visit the webpage, and tri to click on the very same link at the very bottom..
If using Lynx - then sorry...
;)
OpenGL is a registered trademark of Silcon Graphics Incorporated.
To get more information about OpenGL, visit thier website at www.OpenGL.org
hmmm...
Interesting.. I guess it's running on the 2000 line of newtons, I'll be very suprised if it also runs on the "lesser" newts and the emate, but you never know...
though I guess this is not going to be the next big trend in PDA software.. (especialy since newton was "steved") it is cool, kudos to the coder.
Eitan.
Could this be considered for a spot on the "Top Ten signs of Apocoplyse" list?
"However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation."
What the h--- is a Beowulf cluster? It's just that is the second time I've heard this and it sounds cool. Sorry about posting it about the Newton... Just thought ignorance should follow suit. And if a spade doesn't look like a club, feel free to hit me with one of them.