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Pawee wrote in to
note that GNOME has appeared
over at Download.com.
Interesting new mirror I guess. Wonder what other open source
stuff will pop up now.
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KDE is already there too. complete.
KDE was there first. Btw, why is GNOME listed as 700k only?
LyX depends on XForms (non-free) library
KDE depends on Qt (non-free) library.
Call me stupid but I still don't understand why
LyX is included in Debian CDs why KDE is not.
Of course, I don't mind compiling KDE from the
beginning, but am I smelling some discrimination here ?
Just some thought.
Debian doesn't support Desktop Environments - neither GuhNOME nor Kool DE. It's all in the text consoles, baby. =)
I must say, I am rather happy with GNOME 1.0 right now.
:)
Earlier today, I went to gnome.org, and followed the download/install directions to the letter for RedHat 5.2, and it installed/worked flawlessly.
The only comment I have was that it was quite a bit of un-necessary work. A nicely packaged, single tarball with a simple shell script (or something) with all the pertinant libs and packages and such would have been much better and much easier.
I.E. ftp down a file. Untar it, and run the "./install" script (or somesuch) and have it do all the rote work for you.
That is the one thing I will give FreeBSD over any of the Linux distributions - package/port management there is the best I've seen yet, and very simple too. My only problem is that the CDs don't hold 'em all.
Wait a minute, don't Debian developers ask for clarification of license for most other software packages? Why didn't they do that this time? What all the KDE code that is LGPL'ed or Artistic?
That page's "dowload now" is just a link to
gnome.org -- Right? If anybody knows different, then please explain.
I feel so smart - I never even considered believing thisone :)
TUCOWS (the biggest software download site in the world) adopted Linux back in January.. download.com is doing nothing new. Linuxberg is even in their "TUCOWSish" format so you can find stuff easy
Download.com shows that Gnome 1.0 is 'free', I realize that that word connotation does no justice to all the dev work that has been put into Gnome. I'm running gnome-core-1.0.3-12 w/ a Linux 2.2.2 kernel. Runnin' real sweet.
But they're just linking to the GNOME homepage.
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Open mind, insert foot.
...assuming, of course, that they keep their mirror up-to-date. ftp.gnome.org is always swamped, and the newest packages that I'm trying to get are not on the mirrors.
Posted by Nino the Mind Boggler:
Oh, for dumb. They don't HAVE any of the Gnome stuff actually AT download.com. They're linking to gnome.org.
Well, at least they're mentioning it.
saw it on there...a link from cnet's linux page (although a bit outdated..lists v1.0.2).
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If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed...
I think there already are some. At least I hope there are because I've installed them on several people's computers. :-) [ I personally use CVS ] I think they're at
deb http://www.debian.org/~jules/gnome-stage-2 unstable main
for potato, you need to change that to gnome-stage-slink for slink.
Daniel
Hurry up and jump on the individualist bandwagon!
As a point, these Debian packages are still under serious development. They're in a separate staging area (a) to resolve version skew and (b) because the developers believe that things aren't stable/bug-free/well-packaged enough to put into the unstable distribution. As much as I'd like to have a working GNOME setup again, I'm waiting until the packages actually get released.
Lyx license is GPL with a special provision for linking with XForms.
KDE uses many GPL'd programs and would need the permission of every author whose code they used to be able to give this permission. Without that permission, it would be illegal to distribute KDE linked against QT. Hopefully, we will have a KDE linked against QT2.0 soon, and these problems will go away.
Try http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome- stage-2/ or try http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome- stage-slink for the potato and slink distros, respectively.
These locations are apt-able for easy installation. Make sure and read the README!
Because of the large number of authors for KDE (as opposed to Lyx) is was impossible/impractical to get special permission from each contributing author (as would be necessary for it to link with QT). Remember, slink was frozen way back in November.
It will probably be included in potato assuming that this special permission is obtained, or a QT2.0 version is released in time for a potato freeze.
But, just because it is impossible for us to distribute it officially does not mean that debs are not available. Many Debian developers use KDE. Just to to #debian on irc.openprojects.net and ask for the location of the debs if you are interested (I don't know the location offhand).
I'd put them together myself, except that I don't know beans about it, and I think I'll restrict myself to fixing mailman+exim in Debian and my hacked xfstt (which does `unixquotes' correctly) first. Learning how to maintain a Debian package by starting with Gnome 1.0 is not the right way. ^_^
--jon. Postel is dead. May we all mourn his, and our, loss.
It doesn't look like download.com is hosting GNOME or KDE.
All I could find were links to the respective Web sites.
And som has KDE. Wonder what more Linux stuff they have hidden there...
--The knowledge that you are an idiot, is what distinguishes you from one.
I had a very similar experience--fortunately, I picked up the rpms and Glint'd it into existence. However, the KDE 1.1 has a very schweet install script that GNOME would do well to check out. For now, then, my bet's with KDE. Each to his own, though.
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Release date
April 1, 1999
Approx. download time
2 min. at 28.8 kbps
At least download.com has a since of humour:)
Well, I guess that may be right if it doesn't include glib,gtk+,imlib (and various graphics libs), and ORBit. No too mention gnome-core and etc needed for the complete enviroment.
Yes, I like GNOME,
Reklaw
The search effects the results.
Isn't sunsite becoming a download.com mirror?
this would at least mean that they would have a decent selection of links to non-windoze s/w building up.
Looks like CNet is going to start mirroring ZDNets "coverage" of Linux ... expect more Linux help and ... can't wait to ...
articles by "expert" Linux users
see the FUD