Posted by
CmdrTaco
on from the isn't-that-interesting dept.
Pawee wrote in to
note that GNOME has appeared
over at Download.com.
Interesting new mirror I guess. Wonder what other open source
stuff will pop up now.
No, the KDE DOWNLOAD.COM page you reference is just a link to a KDE FTP site, just like the GNOME one is just a link to the GNOME web site.
I fail to see the point of listing either project alongside such systems as "Biggy 3.5" a program to modify your Windows cursor.
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Open mind, insert foot.
It might help if they did a mirror
by
Gleef
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But they're just linking to the GNOME homepage.
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Open mind, insert foot.
Perhaps this will help...
by
HoserHead
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...assuming, of course, that they keep their mirror up-to-date. ftp.gnome.org is always swamped, and the newest packages that I'm trying to get are not on the mirrors.
They're just linking to gnome.org
by
gavinhall
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Posted by Nino the Mind Boggler:
Oh, for dumb. They don't HAVE any of the Gnome stuff actually AT download.com. They're linking to gnome.org.
I think there already are some. At least I hope there are because I've installed them on several people's computers.:-) [ I personally use CVS ] I think they're at deb http://www.debian.org/~jules/gnome-stage-2 unstable main for potato, you need to change that to gnome-stage-slink for slink.
Daniel
-- Hurry up and jump on the individualist bandwagon!
As a point, these Debian packages are still under serious development. They're in a separate staging area (a) to resolve version skew and (b) because the developers believe that things aren't stable/bug-free/well-packaged enough to put into the unstable distribution. As much as I'd like to have a working GNOME setup again, I'm waiting until the packages actually get released.
Off topic: Why KDE is not included in Debian ?
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mitch
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Lyx license is GPL with a special provision for linking with XForms.
KDE uses many GPL'd programs and would need the permission of every author whose code they used to be able to give this permission. Without that permission, it would be illegal to distribute KDE linked against QT. Hopefully, we will have a KDE linked against QT2.0 soon, and these problems will go away.
Try http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome- stage-2/ or try http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome- stage-slink for the potato and slink distros, respectively.
These locations are apt-able for easy installation. Make sure and read the README!
Off topic: Why KDE is not included in Debian ?
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mitch
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Because of the large number of authors for KDE (as opposed to Lyx) is was impossible/impractical to get special permission from each contributing author (as would be necessary for it to link with QT). Remember, slink was frozen way back in November.
It will probably be included in potato assuming that this special permission is obtained, or a QT2.0 version is released in time for a potato freeze.
But, just because it is impossible for us to distribute it officially does not mean that debs are not available. Many Debian developers use KDE. Just to to #debian on irc.openprojects.net and ask for the location of the debs if you are interested (I don't know the location offhand).
I wonder when the Debian packages for Gnome will come out.
I'd put them together myself, except that I don't know beans about it, and I think I'll restrict myself to fixing mailman+exim in Debian and my hacked xfstt (which does `unixquotes' correctly) first. Learning how to maintain a Debian package by starting with Gnome 1.0 is not the right way. ^_^
-- --jon. Postel is dead. May we all mourn his, and our, loss.
And som has KDE. Wonder what more Linux stuff they have hidden there...
-- --The knowledge that you are an idiot, is what distinguishes you from one.
GNOME Install || KDE install
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Resident+Geek
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I had a very similar experience--fortunately, I picked up the rpms and Glint'd it into existence. However, the KDE 1.1 has a very schweet install script that GNOME would do well to check out. For now, then, my bet's with KDE. Each to his own, though.
-- Fighting the War on the War on Drugs.
http://smokedot.org/
At least download.com has a since of humour:) Well, I guess that may be right if it doesn't include glib,gtk+,imlib (and various graphics libs), and ORBit. No too mention gnome-core and etc needed for the complete enviroment.
this would at least mean that they would have a decent selection of links to non-windoze s/w building up.
CNet jumping on the bandwagon....
by
reaper20
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Looks like CNet is going to start mirroring ZDNets "coverage" of Linux... expect more Linux help and articles by "expert" Linux users... can't wait to see the FUD...
No, the KDE DOWNLOAD.COM page you reference is just a link to a KDE FTP site, just like the GNOME one is just a link to the GNOME web site.
I fail to see the point of listing either project alongside such systems as "Biggy 3.5" a program to modify your Windows cursor.
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Open mind, insert foot.
But they're just linking to the GNOME homepage.
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Open mind, insert foot.
...assuming, of course, that they keep their mirror up-to-date. ftp.gnome.org is always swamped, and the newest packages that I'm trying to get are not on the mirrors.
Posted by Nino the Mind Boggler:
Oh, for dumb. They don't HAVE any of the Gnome stuff actually AT download.com. They're linking to gnome.org.
Well, at least they're mentioning it.
saw it on there...a link from cnet's linux page (although a bit outdated..lists v1.0.2).
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If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed...
I think there already are some. At least I hope there are because I've installed them on several people's computers. :-) [ I personally use CVS ] I think they're at
deb http://www.debian.org/~jules/gnome-stage-2 unstable main
for potato, you need to change that to gnome-stage-slink for slink.
Daniel
Hurry up and jump on the individualist bandwagon!
As a point, these Debian packages are still under serious development. They're in a separate staging area (a) to resolve version skew and (b) because the developers believe that things aren't stable/bug-free/well-packaged enough to put into the unstable distribution. As much as I'd like to have a working GNOME setup again, I'm waiting until the packages actually get released.
Lyx license is GPL with a special provision for linking with XForms.
KDE uses many GPL'd programs and would need the permission of every author whose code they used to be able to give this permission. Without that permission, it would be illegal to distribute KDE linked against QT. Hopefully, we will have a KDE linked against QT2.0 soon, and these problems will go away.
Try http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome- stage-2/ or try http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome- stage-slink for the potato and slink distros, respectively.
These locations are apt-able for easy installation. Make sure and read the README!
Because of the large number of authors for KDE (as opposed to Lyx) is was impossible/impractical to get special permission from each contributing author (as would be necessary for it to link with QT). Remember, slink was frozen way back in November.
It will probably be included in potato assuming that this special permission is obtained, or a QT2.0 version is released in time for a potato freeze.
But, just because it is impossible for us to distribute it officially does not mean that debs are not available. Many Debian developers use KDE. Just to to #debian on irc.openprojects.net and ask for the location of the debs if you are interested (I don't know the location offhand).
I'd put them together myself, except that I don't know beans about it, and I think I'll restrict myself to fixing mailman+exim in Debian and my hacked xfstt (which does `unixquotes' correctly) first. Learning how to maintain a Debian package by starting with Gnome 1.0 is not the right way. ^_^
--jon. Postel is dead. May we all mourn his, and our, loss.
It doesn't look like download.com is hosting GNOME or KDE.
All I could find were links to the respective Web sites.
And som has KDE. Wonder what more Linux stuff they have hidden there...
--The knowledge that you are an idiot, is what distinguishes you from one.
I had a very similar experience--fortunately, I picked up the rpms and Glint'd it into existence. However, the KDE 1.1 has a very schweet install script that GNOME would do well to check out. For now, then, my bet's with KDE. Each to his own, though.
Fighting the War on the War on Drugs.
http://smokedot.org/
Release date
April 1, 1999
Approx. download time
2 min. at 28.8 kbps
At least download.com has a since of humour:)
Well, I guess that may be right if it doesn't include glib,gtk+,imlib (and various graphics libs), and ORBit. No too mention gnome-core and etc needed for the complete enviroment.
Yes, I like GNOME,
Reklaw
The search effects the results.
Isn't sunsite becoming a download.com mirror?
this would at least mean that they would have a decent selection of links to non-windoze s/w building up.
Looks like CNet is going to start mirroring ZDNets "coverage" of Linux ... expect more Linux help and ... can't wait to ...
articles by "expert" Linux users
see the FUD