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Watch Web's first "Open Company"?
soulhuntre wrote to us about thirty-days.com. They're running an odd little experiment-trying to open a company, and make the whole thing "open". As he says:
We are telling the whole world what's going on, you can call us, watch us via our webcam and ask us anything you want.
Live or die, we have 29 days and counting to secure an investor.
" They've got the phone numbers, the real business plan-it's sort of like Jennicam for B-school graduates. Or the Real World gone tragically wrong. Update: 08/03 12:58 by CT : for those of you who haven't caught on, this site is really stupid. Stop emailing me to complain- we shared it because we thought it was stupid.
I am tired of seeing people whine, bitch, and complain about what does or does not belong on Slashdot. Frankly, I think you people do not belong on Slashdot. Shut the fuck up already.
Whether something belongs here or not is not for you to say. It is for Hemos, and CmdrTaco and JonKatz (yep, even Katz) and the people that run the site to say.
Have you nothing better to do with your pathetic little lives than to whine about the content of a NEWS site? Whether or not you think this (or any other story) is "Stuff that matters" is not the point. The point is that you are not the only one reading this site! If a story doesn't interest you, ignore it. Do not waste everyone's time bitching about how it shouldn't have been here in the first place. If the signal to noise ratio becomes too low, in your opinion, then are a quite free to stop reading Slashdot, setup your own site, turn to TV, become a crazy guy in the forest who likes to mail explosives to people, whatever.
The best way to exercise freedom of speech is to know when to speak and when to shutup. So shutup!
/me calms down
/me grabs a water hose
/me waits for the inevitable flames..
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
How does stuff like this make it here?
Where as I wrote a week ago, suggesting that my project get listed, as I am in process of throwing together an AirPort system on a PC laptop to see if it works with the Lucent drivers and external booster antenna....If it doesnt work for me, atleast others will know that way.....
anyways, the site is at www.qwlsoft.com/wireless/airpor t/airport.htm
-Dan Guisinger
www.atacomm.com - The Leader in VoIP Product Distributi
celebrities? pah.
i'm a celebrity too.
and sometimes the press go too far. can't a boy continue the past forgotten legacy of The Red Hot Chilli Peppers down mainstreet in peace?
-Docvert converts MSWord to OpenDocument, clean HTML
For christ's sake, they can't even spell "amateur" correctly. These people claim to be professionals? And it's not even like professional naughty-website-designer is that tough a profession to master. Why do these people need startup capital to build an amateur not-really-quite-porn-more-BDSM website when everyone else just does it in their spare time?
Take this off slashdot, please.
This is NOT News for Nerds.
two words: fat chicks
one word: moron
This will probably get moderated down as "redundant" or something, but that was one of the funniest things I have read on Slashdot.
Actually Here and Now has gotten investors, and is also being considered for acquisition by several competing Internet video companies.
I have to agree- definitely a laugher. The subject was just too ripe, though.
"The electric light is pure information"
-- jimmycarter
Hmmm. "Soulhuntre." Could that possibly be the same "Soulhuntre" who Lisa and Shannon say served as their "Daddy" for a time and who wrote the bittersweet essay on training submissives on the-estate.com ?/
Well, now let's see. The writer of the piece lives at "the estate," as well as their primary "talent" and web designers. Gosh, a fully functioning goth-BDSM website team? Kleiner-Perkins and Sequoia Capital are going to be beating down some doors in the New Jersey area!
this is a porno scam...
seen this before, before the internet.
In LA in the forties and fifties, there were a series of scams from a set of "adult" magazines that set up ads that were little more than cheap ways to overcome the postal legalities.
This is the same thing.
"sweet little things"????!!! what crap!
open source does not mean open scam.
wouldve been more interesting if you had already got the parts and got em working. duh. parts in the mail are not very interesting...neither is "the check is in the mail" or "win2k r00lz" anymore.
4 minutes.. that took not long at all.. :-)
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Especially if it's slashdot.
From http://www.thirty-days.com/content/faq/index.html :
h tml
[ignore the obvious grammatical error for a second]
"We spend some time debating how much of our journey we are going to expose - and we rededicated ourselves to the idea of letting you see everything. If you don't know - you can't help right?"
From http://www.thirty-days.com/content/theplan/index.
"The details of [the company's primary asset] are themselves proprietary..." [followed by lots of buzzword blather]
Anyone see any contradictions here? But at least they're planning a site dedicated to amateur porn...I'm so glad, we really NEED more of those sites around.
Anybody who gives these guys 50 cents, let alone $50,000, needs to lay off the crack pipe.
3V3RY 1 W4NT5 T0 C B1FF G3T N3KK1D 2. BUT 1 D0N'T D0 1T. 1 H4V3 MY D1GN1TY && S3LF-R35P3CT!!!!!!!!!!!11
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ALL HA1L B1FF, TH3 M05T 3L33T D00D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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:WQ
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ALL HA1L B1FF, TH3 M05T 31337 D00D!!!!!1
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You can't just throw the word open into something and make it worthwhile (or Slashdot material).
Indeed, you cannot. However, apparently, this time, somebody thought it was worthwhile (odd notion, I must say). I'm thinking the thirty days deadline also had something to do with it.
"Hurry honey! We're almost too late!"
Insert mind here.
i think it's just some guys using their psychologically maladjusted girlfreinds to make some money and gain a bit of cyber-fame.
01101100 01101001 01101110 01110101 01111000 01110010 01110101 01101100 01100101 01110011
Well, the link to the submitter, "soulhuntre", is the same as the link to the sight. So either the html got crossed, or someone forgot to check for the "blatant self-promotion" flags when the story was submitted.
--sugarman--
Who knows, these guys may actually have something substantial?
I wouldn't have said that, except by the time I bothered looking at the site, on several spots they've added comments about they're working hard now to revise their information as a result of comments made by the slashdot community
So, I wonder...now that I've made comments about their comments, perhaps they'll make comments regarding my comments about their comments?
Not that my comments actually have any more substance than their website does.
Anyway, just thought that a lot of the naysayers could perhaps benefit from a second look at the site.
Ferix
arvind rulez
I laughed at that post more than I had all last week! I really cannot believe Rob hasn't looked at all the links for this lot before whacking (Oer!) them up as a headliner. Ah well, I suppose this is one way of passing a boring tech support shift, and I could always check back in 20 days to see if a) the web cam is fixed, or b) they're naked or whatever :-)
// Hmm, another variant of IE/W9x/NT to add to the "integrated MS value proposition"
You have to admit, this stuff is pretty humorous. I usually don't go after sites listed here because of the slashdot effect, but this one caught my eye. Maybe I just enjoy watching people (other than myself) make fools of themselves....
Question No. 1 from a VC will be:
"Why is your site useful?"
And your answer is?
(What is the smily for extreme scarcasm?)
--
Its just a group of pay-per-click losers, attempting to justify their pathetic perversion with a quick dollar by designing a few stupid porno-sites. Sometimes I start wondering if we should have a screening process to keep morons like this off the net.
I'm glad I popped over and read the Slashdot comments before I checked the site out. A porn site, even one disguised, is not a good site to look at from work. And here I thought Slashdot wouldn't hand me blind links. *sigh* Would it have been tough to mention it was lame smut (as opposed to good smut, eh) when the disclaimer was posted that said "yes, we knew it was a bad site"? At least some kind of "This isn't exactly office-friendly" warning, perhaps.
Those of us in offices with curious cow orkers and large monitors would indeed thank you, Rob.
This happened to be one of the funniest things I've read in a long time. As I am a long time patron of any number of totally skeezy p0rn sites, including such notables as Danni's, and Enslaved.com, I couldn't help laughing how they tried to compare themselves to some of the truly great names in B&D, and failed so patethically.
I wonder if they could even afford a breath mint from Suze Randall, let alone her services. Maybe she'll do pro-bono work.
But I doubt she'd have an easy time, primping up too Joisey Girls. Who knows, maybe they'll clean up pretty well.
"When we started making money directly from the web, about 3 years ago in addition to the consulting we have been doing for more than a decade, we found a mature and complete business model in the adult web that did not exist in the mainstream."
So they've been making a ton of money and don't have $50K to put into their business? What have they been doing with the money they're making? Spending it all on girls?
This really seems like a publicity ploy.
Cheers,
KenB
--
test
This media gimmick should flash out so fast on the news cycle that it will make Rob Toup's 95 phenom "Babes of the Web" seem like it lasted an eternity. Hopefully they can nab at least 15 suckers, if the birthing rate for them remains constant to Barnam's era.
This is ridiculous. How in the world could this ever work?
I wonder if there was a business plan for creating the business plan...
is this just another gimmick for an adult site?
I was chuckling at some of the links for the
employees. Fairly obvious what kind of business
they're trying to start. Nothing new there.
-fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
Of several people...
picked to live in a cubicle...
and have their lives taped.
...THIRTY DAYS. *New Joisey*
Heh.
In reality, 'thirty-days' is probably the amount of time they're planning to spend online before taking it all and going public.
Sigh.
Reminds me of some of the South Sea Bubble companies. "Trust me, we'll make money from the riches of the Americas\\\\\\\\Internet."
If you play the slots at Reno, you might as well go for this, it's of the same quality of investment.
Will in Seattle
"Watch us succeed... watch us fail"
The nice thing about the internet though, is that there are plenty of people who are willing to give out advice for free. Why not take advantage of it?
I am a little confused about starting an internet company that is based on starting an internet company.... uhhh, good luck i guess.
Does anyone want to do my taxes for free?
:)
Oops, my mistake. Most of those are domain names they have available.o lio.html
Their portfolio is at
http://www.virtualchemy.com/old/portfolio/portf
I remember seeing something almost exactly like this before called hereandnow.com. They wanted someone to invest in them and support them but what they don't understand is people don't want to sit there and talk with them. They want to watch people get naked. Plain and simple. Its kinda funny how they wonder why no one is investing in them.
How can they expect anyone to invest in a company that doesn't even have a business plan? Are they expecting us to come up with a business for them?
Yeah, we can watch them. But watch them do what, exactly?
I think this would be really neat had there been an actual business created already.
And what's with all the references to the girls? Are they talking about the girls on the web cam? I certainly hope they aren't the only company assets...
-Lisa
The 'up to the minute' web-cam image is 4 days old. There goes investor credibility. They can't deliver on their own marketting ploy. If their advertizing gimick fails to advertize, how can they produce anything?
And as for producing 'content', well... This is either a business school term project gone awry (a bunch of overly enthusiastic co-eds) or we'll be looking at 'NY/NJ models investing all of their ass-ets'.
Shazam! It's a sham, it's is a sham.
-- What you do today will cost you a day of your life.
The team has a long history in the adult web market, we maintain several sites currently for our parent firm and for clients. We have and continue to handle
design, programming and technical support for many of these sites.
Our experience does not stop on one side of the camera - Lisa and Shannon have are both celebrities in their own right as the stars of girl2.
We would like to put that experience, and our contacts in the industry, to work on a site we call "Sweet Young Things". This domain currently operates as a
free website, generating revenue from sponsorship programs and advertising partnerships. It is our intention to turn that site into an amateur website,
featuring some truly amazing local models.
While there is a considerable number of activity in this market, it is clear from our experience as insiders in this industry that there is still room for a successful
website that has a quality standard and the ability and desire to maintain it. While revenue details are of course proprietary our experience shows that this
site will reach break-even in less than sixty days and provide a growing and dependable revenue stream for us.
There are ancillary benefits to this. Our team needs experience working with third party models, including the issues involved in high production value photo
shoots and the associated problems. The experience gained on this will be invaluable when the time comes for photographic work to be done in support of
PA.
Well, it is true that the few internet sites that actually *ARE* making money right now are the adult sites. But aren't there enough?
Is this supposed to be "Porn for the Intellectual"???
Whatever... I do not think I will be a fan.
Oh, how nice, another company trying to ride the IPO wave with a stupid gimmick that hasn't been tried yet.
/.
Hmmm, what have they done so far?
*clicks link*
whoa!
amature-webcams.com
centerfold-webcams.com
find-webcams.com
hardcore-webcams.com
lesbian-webcams.com
pornstar-webcams.com
teen-webcams.com
teen-movies.com
supermodel-online.com
supermodel-photos.com
pornstars-online.com
amateurs-online.com
bondage-photos.com
buycgi.com
centerfolds-online.com
fetish-photos.com
find-amateurs.com
gowebcams.com
sweetyoungthings.com
daddys-girls.com
prettylittlethings.com
Well, that's quite a list. I'm so pleased that the antics of a team of morons who make pedophilic-sounding web sites merit mention on
Does this sound like a new UPN sequel to anyone else?
VO:"You're about to be let in on the best-kept secret America has to date. We've developed a machine that'll let you work on nothing and get paid for the next....
Thirty Days!"
Cameos by Charo, the Gabors, The Kennedy's, and various other people who got famous and rich through no fault of their own.
What a failure of imagination. Clearly the cash flow a young company needs is best provided by running an adult-content site on the side.
Behold the New Economy in all its majestic glory.
This appears to be an elaborate scheme to get advertising. Think about. Bleh! =)
Database Administrator wanted for exciting opportunity with hot new internet startup.
www.thirty-days.com seeks talented, unihibited, young, attractive, female DBA to join our team.
The ideal canidate for this job will have at least 3 years experience in the following:
Duties will include:
Benefits include:
Salary dependent on experience, breast size.
Don't wait, join today!
--Shoeboy
Sad, but interesting way of getting attention and they'll certainly get their fare share- how many of us from Slashdot have already checked it out??
p0rn nothing more, nothing less...
"The electric light is pure information"
-- jimmycarter
title sez it all
"Oh, I hope he doesn't give us halyatchkies," said Heinrich.
hmm..
Then they can make some money.
Tatsumi looks pretty cute.
Why on earth did this thing get any publicity on
/. in the first place ?
Nothing more to be said!
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Lose the SGI Bring back the CUBE!!
This looks like something Jon Katz would write; some new way of making porn available over the Internet.C'mon, they don't even pretend to be for real. If they did, they would at least say right out that they expect to make money because they do porn. Plus they guy who sent the story is affiliated to the venture. Personally, I think Slashdot should avoid giving advertising to pornographers.
I hope they go to jail for wasting all of our time looking at their stupid little web page. This makes me sick, you know I bet if they put out an IPO theyd all be millionaires, internet companies can be soooo lame.
I can't believe slashdot linked this obvious attempt get traffic, the site is outdated, theres barely anything there, the webcam is old, what a poor ploy. This is no worse than linking to poopsex.com, at least you don't have to wait 30 days to get the shit.
Come one, come all watch the greatest show on earth: adult models trying to run an internet startup... Thrill as they begins to subsist entirely on pop-tarts and Mountain Dew... Wank as they attempt to work around their clueless PM... Cheer as they start sleeping in their cubes... Drool as they try to justify hardware upgrades to management... Gaze awestruck as they take up chain smoking... Lose interest when they start to look like your coworkers.
--Shoeboy
that has such obvious grammatical errors (unless it's slashdot!)
From the FAQ page:
Q.
Are you people for real?
A.
Absolutely. Your welcome to see for yourself by watching us on the office webcam. You can even call us on the phone if you really want to or fax us or send us mail. All
the information you need is on the contact page.
-- First post (by a female living in a state that begins with M and does not end in a vowel with a birthday that falls
I think this site is a ploy to get more publicity for their company.
Think about it: Now they will have scores of Slashdot readers visiting their site and reading about their projects. Notice they ask you to tell your friends.
They make their primary project secret but entice you with promises that it will appeal to science-fiction and role playing audiences and that it may include CD-ROMs, comic books, movies, and the like. People will keep logging in (they hope) to see if any additional information is posted about this project. This builds up excitement in anticipation of their launch.
You have to admit, it's creative.
The DMCA--for corporations, the best copyright law money can buy.
...a porn site on the internet! Who would have ever thought of that?
"I like booty so big you can stand a drink and an alarm clock on it." - Sinbad
Sorry, this whole thing just FEELS sleazy. A site dedicated to start-up voyerism? When did that become a fetish?
And I DO mean fetish. Their primary emphasis seems to be developing adult web sites. This just sounds like ourfirsttime.com with an "internet start-up" angle. Pretty blatant buzzword cash-in.
How long until their webcam starts "accidently" capturing late-night trysts between co-workers.
Worst of all, the two most prominent links on the index page are Slashdot and User Friendly. I don't think either site has much to gain by being linked from this site, but it sure makes it look like a publicity trade.
Gotta go. I feel a sudden urge to wash my hands.
Visit thiry-day.com today be they are hot-word compliant! This is one of the few web sites where a plan brings "open" and "prioritary" together as one! And what makes them open? They have a webcam that updates at the "real-time" speed of every 60 seconds! Something tells me they won't be providing a lasting defination of "open" or "real-time" when compared with companies like Netscape/Mozilla or QNX.
I don't know how much money was used to start-up the company but at least I know that withen the last 60 seconds that ICQ #18793285 was sitting at a keyboard! And... after all... isn't knowing that what really counts?
Porn of course. No other business has been so successful on the Internet than the online sleeze vendors. God bless the Internet baby. ;-)
Can we get them to take off their clothes?
Come on, if you're reading this, get undressed! Then we can talk about an investment...
This is kinda funny, I still don't see the point of this site exactly? Are they just making some "internet company" that designs "adult" websites, or was that their previous attempt? Shouldn't they finish the site before putting it online? Oh well, I guess it's a semi-commendable effort at getting into people's wallets.
:)
All in all, I'll donate $5 if I get any one or more of these rewards (that they listed):
a big hug from the girls (why not
web-hosting (whoohoo, i always wanted a shell on a porn site)
homemade lasagna (we love lasagna)
stock options (stock is good, specially on porn sites)
free T-shirt (depends on what is ON the t-shirt)
good pizza (we love pizza)
a little money (yeah 100%+ of what I gave them would be fine)
free CD-ROM (of what? porn? warez? or a blank cd?)
I dunno, I guess we'll find out exactly what this thing is about when they re-write their "business plan"
[root@chef ron]# whois virtualchemy
Virtualchemy Inc. AMATURE-WEBCAMS.COM
Virtualchemy Inc. LUCID-VISIONS.COM
Virtualchemy Inc. THE-ESTATE.COM
Virtualchemy Inc. KIMIKO-DREAMS.COM
Virtualchemy Inc. TEEN-WEBCAMS.COM
Virtualchemy Inc. REAL-THINGZ.COM
Welcome to The Estate. We are a training facility, located in the NYC metropolitan area, for submissive men and women dedicated to the idea of service-orientated submission. We work with both uncollared and collared submissives as long as
they wish to improve themselves.
hurt me....
Pork is not a verb
If you think this is the stupidest thing that's ever been on Slashdot, you've obviously never read Katz's bit about the sex-bots...
What is this cheese? Jennie CAM with no nudity? Crap, pure and utter bunk bullshit.
Did he buy the drugs from someone who was selling them to raise money for an internet startup?
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
hahaha they registered ninety-days.com just in case 30 days dosent give them enough time
Something for them to list on the "not to do"s later on. :)
-- Stargazer
where the daily operations are open and controlled by the users. Simply having the people open to public (pubic) view is not open at all. It's simply voyeristic.
Two-bit shiesters come a dime a dozen on the internet. When will we work together to achieve the collaboration capabilites the internet offers. O ya, we are...
This is the stupidest thing that I have ever seen on Slashdot. You can't just throw the word open into something and make it worthwhile (or Slashdot material). These are N guys in some city that make porn sites, who cares.
frankly, I expect more from slashdot. This site doesn't really seem to be breaking any ground. Frankly, it's about as interesting, as reading about TransMeta. It's a company that's doing something, that they don't really want to talk about. The only gimmick, is that they are broadcasting "live" shots of the office on the net. Big whoop.
/., is apparently involved with one of the primaries. So it's not like someone other than themselves thought they were doing anything cool, or innovative.
And as a bit of truth-in-advertising, the person that referred the site to
Howabout screening the postings a little guys.
"Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs." P.J. O'Rourke