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KDE 1.1.2 is out
Title says all. KDE 1.1.2 is out for the masses. Press release is here. Please use the Mirrors . (note: ftp.kde.org doesn't have the files yet, but ftp.de.kde.org. have it). Go get it. Try the themes and the new (and very colourful) icons, and enjoy. Update: Currently, it's available only as a .tar.gz, and .tar.bz2, and for Debian (Sparc & Intel). No binaries for most of the distributions yet. (RedHat - please make it faster this time - hint!)
That's exactly what I was thinking. Claiming your desktop is superior because it's the de facto standard is obviously something Microsoft does quite well. At least Microsoft has something to back that up - they are the de facto standard desktop, with millions of users. KDE most likely doesn't even have a million users, so it's not a de facto standard anything.
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For those of you using E without following the development, the next release is supposed to have support for KDE hints. It's currently in a feature-freeze so it should hopefully be out soon.
I think it's high time that KDE be a little more configurable. It would be nice if the KDE folks could work on the next release to integrate E - which is really the only real reason anyone runs gnome :) That and the whole silly license thing. But seriously, KDE's installation needs to ask some more questions - and so does redhat's installation of kde. Like do you want kpilot & lots of k apps that just eat memory over the defaults - like konsole/xterm?
The ability to configure is really what people want.
Joseph Elwell.
I don't know what you mean; I've got a 64MB machine here, and although I don't run Caldera (too corporate for me) I do run Linux + X + KDE. And here's the part where I set the record straight:
1) KDE is a bit large; but the installation of KDE doesn't take up THAT much space, binary-wise. I don't know the exact numbers but last time I checked it was close to 30MB; you are correct. But it's an entire user environment, with MANY utilities. We can't compare it to Windows because a) windows is at 4.1 (or so they claim) and b) KDE is already better than it, despite being at 1.1.2. When I say better, I mean that it has more apps, it's more stable, and it looks cooler. What else matters? Oh, and it's a helluva lot faster than Win98 on this machine at least (overclocked Celeron300A).
2) Linux takes up less than a meg. The kernel fits onto a friggin' floppy! It's not that large, really; the source code to it is, but on my system at least the entire kernel (once compiled and made into a binary) which is 2.2.6, is less than a meg. How large is the Win9x one? I don't know offhand; some figures would be nice though.
3) yes, X is large, but when I downloaded version 3.3.4 (yup, downloaded it over a 56K... crazy me) it was about 30M (still compressed). I don't know how large it was when uncompressed, because I didn't bother to check, but I'll bet that the source code was pretty large too. But the binaries! That's what this is really about in the case you've made. The binaries for X are not that large, really; and it doesn't take up that many resources on my machine. I can run X and three Konsoles, all compiling different software, and my machine doesn't even break a sweat. (God bless Linux.) Personally, I run Blackbox with KDE stuff (the panel and the FM) because I notice the speed! differences. BB is FAST, man. And perty, too.
Well, just more of my $0.02.
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to yourThey had 1.1.2 days ago. There are also binary KDE 2.0 snapshots available there.
Even though I'm currently using the Redhat dist, I still prefer to install the majority of my software from the sources. I like the additional control I get, and to be honest, I'm not all that thrilled with Redhat's package manager (Even though the update feature usually works, I find myself uninstalling the old RPM's first anyway, or I tend to get undefined behaviour, and I don't have these problems when I compile).
Compiling lets me provide further optimization for my platform (using PGCC, for example), and with apps like KDE and Gnome, every little bit helps to keep them running as fast as possible.
On another note, Kdevelop (a quite cool IDE) isn't included in 1.1.2 (although it had been considered), since the Kdevelop folks don't think it's quite ready. While a few might be disappointed by this, it is an example of one of the core OSS philosophies, that if it isn't ready, it won't be included, and IMHO, that's a very good thing. For those who want to try it (and don't know where to find it) http://www.kdevelop.org.
I am currently using the 1.1 beta, and it is very good, only a few rough edges. It will be an outstanding addition to KDE when the developers think it's ready.
Nunc Tutus Exitus Computarus.
Mandrakes new version 6.1 (currently called cassini to be called Helios) is in beta testing and has RPM's for KDE 1.1.2 available. Just head over to http://www.linux-mandrake.com and check it out. I've been using it for about two weeks and it's a vast improvement.
I'm sorry, I'm to tired to be witty at the moment so this message will have to do.
I've never used KDE and I've used GNOME very litttle, but I'm interested in the subject of component models. I was an OS/2 user and the WPS had a truly object oriented backend, that worked with SOM (a CORBA ORB!). Then OpenDoc showed up as the next big promise. The feature list was impressive. It was cool, it as CORBA based, it promised todestroy the concept of "application" as we know it (everything was going to be a component).
Enough for an introduction =). What are the directions KDE and GNOME are taking about these things? Are they just targeting a pseudo document oriented desktop as the one included in that OS we all know? I remember having read that Bonobo is based on OLE 2.. is that true? is KOM/OpenParts cool? It would be very interesting to have these things replied, at least for me.... bye! =)