Microsoft Cracked
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Microsoft being cracked that (ironically enough) appears on msnbc. Not any of their "Main" sites, but it happens. Its an odd story about a lovesick cracker. Very strange.
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It looks like that, since MS was compromised, that flipz has done a job on some other pages of note - many being military boxen, most on NT :) Here is attrition's "record" on flipz - it includes all the sites he(she?) has compromised and it also has what all of the pages look like. Neat stuff, imo ;)
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I don't think we need to invent terms. Invented labels invariably either 1) don't catch on or 2) become self-parodies. Languages evolve naturaly, when a sufficient portion of the population collectively "decides" that a new term is warrented. Why can't we just say what happened:
A web page was (defaced/altered) by an unauthorized person?
Yeah, it's bland, but it gets the point across without falling into this whole cracker/hacker (f)lamewar again.
That sounds good to me. I was mainly objecting to the term "cracker" being inappropriately used in this context, and trying to suggest an alternative. "defaced" is certainly fine as well.
To get back to the article, I personly find it disheartening that this poor kid (I assume) who's been playing around is worried about being arrested for what amounts to causing someone to take five minutes to restore a backup. Yes, his actions are immature, and yes there's too much of this kind of thing going on, but fuck, the punishment should fit the crime. He deserves detention or summer school, not jail-time.
Definitely - there seems to be a level of paranoia about 12-year-old "superhackers" that makes people think they're a danger to society. The punishment should be the same as punishment for any other sort of vandalism that caused about $2 in damage that's easily fixed. Whatever punishment you'd give to somebody who sprayed shaving cream on your car is what you should give to this kid...
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
Cracking *IS* that bad, and it's a very juvenile mindset to think otherwise.
At what point in time did it come into your tiny little mind that other people in the world should bear the cost of what you do.
Wonder how much our corporate lawyers, plus my overtime, plus the cost of reinstalling the OS on all the boxes, plus the cost of having to delay product releases because we had to divert 12 people to sifting through all the data by hand to verify it's integrity.... boy you know corporate lawyers, Senior SA's, management sure do work pretty cheap these days... ANY defacement and you are into THOUSANDS of dollars in lost time, slipped projects, overtime, customer loyalty, oh.. but that's harmless... *THWACK*
Back in my days I may have gotten freaky on a BBS but I understood that *I* was doing something wrong, and was ready to step up if the ax man ever came, and not make lame ass excuses (lucky for my stupid ass he didn't, damn stupid looking back). But you... you seem to think that it's your god given right to thrash other people's property, things they might have put their heart and soul into and want to walk away claiming it's only something harmless, if you're going to do something stupid at least have enough BALLS to take responsibility.
Stupid ass AC, coward fits you well!
The defaced page is her e. It is a little boring.
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Has anyone else noticed that whenever there's bad new about Microsoft, MSNBC always seems to be the first to report it? Do you suppose that at the first sign of something that might result in bad press, Microsoft immediately gets MSNBC the story, thinking that at the very least, it can use the situations to bolster the network's credibility?
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Hmm. The never-ending hack/crack debate. One the one hand, using "cracked" is obviously inappropriate, since the term already had a meaning in computer security prior to its application in 1984 to people who break into computers. It has, for as long as anybody remembers, described people who break the copy protection of software. This usage far predates the usage cited in the Jargon File (which itself admits to the 1984 date).
On the other hand, the term "hacked" is obviously inappropriate in this case. This system intrusion was merely the work of a script kiddie, it appears, and hence is not any sort of hacking.
We need a verb that means "broken into by a script kiddie," so as to differentiate from "broken into by an intelligent security expert" (which I'll continue to call "hacked") and from "breaking the copy protection of" (which I'll continue to call "cracked."
I personally prefer to use the term "hax0red," which, helpfully, is what they often call it themselves, so it should not be hard to have this term adopted. This differentiates from mature, intelligent people, who use "hacked," to describe their work (whatever that work may be, be it kernel hacking or NT hacking) and the script kiddies who use 3l33t sp33k to describe their work. It also allows "hax0r d00d" to be used as a convenient synonym for "script kiddie."
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
William Henry Gates III, owner of the most successful software publishing business ever, and some say arguably the richest man on earth, startled office workers and the world today when he was found to have been cracked right in his office.
One worker, willing only to speak under conditions of anonymity, described the scene as follows, "He was wearing these terrible blue polyester trousers, bending over his PC fiddling with these wires, when it happened."
Others described it bright like a Halloween moon, with the crack almost down to his O-Ring.
Disturbing co-workers and his wife, Melinda Gates, alike, she is said to have promised to throw out his whole wardrobe today and replaced it with straight cotton. When asked, she had no comment.
Dr. Timmothy Farnsworth, a PhD. in both physics and a proctolgist with over fifteen years researching polyester effects on backsides, had this to say on the matter, "It's a well known fact that polyester drops down past the ass when a subject bends over. At first scientists assumed it was related to a genetic hip deficit trait carried by plumbers, electricians, and other blue collar workers, but now we know that it is in fact caused by the polyester material itself. Though we still don't know why. Current theory holds that polyester carries a special static electrical quotient, which along with a strong anti-anus gravitational repulsion effect, causes trousers to drop no matter who bends over."
Regardless, no official at the Redmond campus is commenting, but we're sure Mr. Gates is as red as his O-Ring after this embarrassing affair.
Worse than an untouchable, when I reincarnate I'll be lucky to return as bacteria.
Possible, but seems very convoluted. Even for Redmond.
=VERY= unlikely. Microsoft are listed as a highly prominent target, and (despite what the article may say) crackers aren't renown for being cowed by the threat of retribution.
This feels more likely. Windows NT is not the paradigm of security. Besides, what is "Microsoft" seems to change with every report. Microsoft's Hotmail has been cracked, as has (I think) MSN. I'm sorry, but it's not exactly the first time Microsoft has had a server cracked.
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I think that this is a perfect example of system administrators not taking the time to install each of the patches that make NT server the most secure platform known to man.
Heh. The ultimate hack will be if someone can gain access to all of the NT servers supposedly controlling BG's big mansion in Seattle.
I can see it now..... "HONEY! THE GARAGE ATE THE BABY!" "WILLIAM!!! I TOLD YOU TO STOP LEAVING YOUR FAVORITE NERD NYMPHOS WEB SITES ON THE 100 INCH SCREEN!!!!" "Dear, I swear....it wasn't me!"
Ah....dreams......