It's not even the pro-Linux/anti-Microsoft... it's the complete and total duh factor. I thought that anybody above a nuckle dragging caveman could see that this obviously only affects Ms 95+. Pro-linux, anti-microsoft fine, it's the dumbness of the topic that offends me.
I guess I don't like be talked to as if I was a child, it's like having a topic, "Flash... binaries compiled for Solaris won't run on Linux" duh. This topic gives nerds a bad name, I thought the word nerd also had a "not in bottom 5% IQ level" rider attached to it, obviously I was wrong.
It amazes me too that I got moded up, but personally I don't care about moderation; so big whooop drop me to -1.
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I've allways wondered about the $3 CD complaint. What is the big deal if it only costs them a cent to make. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MEDIUM PEOPLE!!! Everything you own could probably be distilled down to an actual manufacturing cost of 1/30th what you paid for it, think about it $150 Nike's cost on $15 to make, how is that different than a CD? Also, you want to complain about getting crappy songs on the CD and "only one is good", then go buy a damn CD single.
What you are paying for is the data on the CD, it's as simple as that. It's just like a backup tape, a DLT 7000 tape may cost $100 but the data on that tape could be actually worth a million dollars if your entire business burns down to the ground and all you've got is that one tape. The tape in itself has very little value, you aren't paying for just a "CD" (heck I chould ship you a few AOL cd's, it that all you care about), you are paying for the MUSIC and that music happens to be on a CD.
If Napster actually did true trading (or giving away) instead of sharing, I would not have any problems with it at all. I buy a mp3, listen to it, and when I'm done with it I put it in a "to be given away folder", when you download it from me,it gets removed from my machine, I don't have a copy of it anymore, win/win. There is still just the one paid for mp3, the music gets shared around, and nobody's bitchin.
This wouldn't be the exact same innocent guy, who tried to blackmail the company into giving him millions of dollars or else I'll release the code and you'll be screwed.
Hmmm that sure sounds like he's the good guy to me. Completely innocent, like an angel....
Since you are picking out a single word out of an entire statement, I thought I would notify you of your assanine statement.
The statement is "our art" note the word OUR, note the absence of the phrases public art, street performers, accessablility projects. Do you have a regex conversion routine in your head so that s/our/public/. It's interesting to note, your assanine statement assuming that all art it PUBLIC. Ever gone to a movie, broadway theater performance, opera, etc. that you had to pay to get in... a hint, that's most likely not public.
Notice the MOCKING LAUGHTER behind you?
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Reading through the posts, pretty much all of the slashdotter's are saying that we need to find a way to stop this... I seem to remember that just the other day about a story on freenet, where pretty much it was that freenet should not be stopped because of freedom of speech, etc. Does anybody else see the irony in this?
I'd bet that the formula of 92.3% could be applied to freenet (or napster, etc.) almost as equally. Most likely 92.3% of the data on freenet WILL be warez, porn, etc.; but this is a good thing because freenet promotes freedom of speech, isn't this the exact same thing? Pretty much what the slashdot crowd is telling the world, as long as it's speech we AGREE with, we will fight tooth and nail, but if it's something that we DON'T agree with heaven help the flurry of attacks, hate mail, childish behavior that is about to follow.
I don't care if you are for or against the pinkertons, but if you support freenet you should be for the freedom of other people to have their say. Sure incorrect information in one has affects magnituds more than the other, but if one boils it down and gets to the heart of the matter they are infact almost the same. You want the freedom of freenet, you should support the freedom of people to anonymously rat. You don't want people to anonymously rat, then you shouldn't support freenet. They both are probably going to have close to the same numbers for valid to invalid data.
Go ahead let your flames go, but I can't stand people standing up for one ideal (when it suits them) and then oppose that same ideal when it might negatively affect them.
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I'm not sure about that Celeron part, they are already shipping with Xeon's & PIII's. For MIPS.. well they are starting to move away from them since they are excellent ships but are not increasing performance numbers as fast as others (Intel).
I do know that there is a port going on right now that works (without X windows that is, way too much proprietery info about graphics required). Check out linux.sgi.com which looks old but get on the mailing list much newer stuff.
You've got a termination problem there, also if your root drive has not been formatted properly your miniroot will hang.
Ahh yes... Networker one of my favorites... I loved this product at my previous job, ease of use, add-on options, allow the secretary to get her own files (without hardly any training: point click, what time period, where do you want it...).
We are currently slamed with EMC's edm sofware... ugly, but it is kinda nice to be able to take a couple of terabytes directly from a box and throw it onto tape without using any host or network resources. At least it's not Alexandria...
ps. The price of Networker is only ~1k which for some shops seem pretty high but it is so damn worth it, ease of installation, GUI for everyone, wonderful multiplatform support: Solaris, Irix, HP, Linux, Windows..., encryption, archiving...
Of course your results may vary, I've had awful experiences with many other products (which shall remain nameless) that others have had great luck with.
Even though I know I shouldn't respond to a troll, I'll do so anyway because so many others get it wrong.
The key to the problem is that you are comparing clustering to SMP, if I can put a 256 proc SGI O2k box out, it's an order of magnitude faster than a clusterd Intel box for most applications. To cover the rest of those applications introduce clustering, both SGI, SUN have clustering software.
So, you take advantage of the extermely fast SMP capability in your Sun or SGI and use the flexibility of clustering.... lets say you combine 5x 256 CPU SGI Origin boxes, and you've got a kickin' option because they only have to go over the EXTERMELY slow network bottleneck when they have to go between 5 machines, instead of going over the EXTREMELY slow network to go between the 1280 single proc Intel machines (or 160 8 way SMP boxes).
I'm not knocking Beowulf (side note Beowulf is NOT an IBM product), it's great for specific applications that need lots of power for low cost. But the ability to have 256 proc's access the same memory at extereme speeds is something that can't be ignored.
Hmmm... wanna rethink that light years statement?
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So you are saying you'd rather have a cap on a per system than sharing the bandwidth when available? That seems even more draconian, if I've got bandwidth that is available, I can't use it I've peaked my bandwidth.
It is NOT useless to determine good & bad packets, if people would play BY THE RULES and leave things at specified ports, etc. instead of making the total bandwidth down to 56k per box, to making the Napster protocol 56k per box.
Instead of going around the rules, try playing by them sometimes it tends to get better results more of the time. I can tell you this much any users that would try to do an "end-run" around any of the rules on my systems would find their access SEVERLY limited (i.e. they get on the things they can do list instead of the things they can't do these things list, they want access to something not on the list they have to sumbit a change request). If users ask first and give me any reasonable reason for changing a rule, etc. I am more than willing to do it.
Last thing, I know more than a few NETWORK ADMINS who would shoot you for saying sysadmin instead of netadmin, and I know some sys admins who are willing to go on the rampage too, for comparing them to the netadmins, me I'm easy going I'd probably just DDOS you.
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Settle down there sparky. HA linux stands for High Availability... The term has been around for many a year, much longer than VA Linux has been.
Now whether or not they should be naming their distro something so generic... like calling a version TCP Linux (because it run tcp networking), is something that is questionable.
I'd have to disagree with you. Linux is not the one that is thwacking SGI around. There marketing dept. is the only one to blame, (and maybe their old CEO who did that Visual PC fiasco...).
Like you I love my Irix, it runs smooth and clean, never crashes on me and it's got all of the power functions that Linux has (and many more) but Linux hasn't got quite gotten down polish yet. But as a SGI supporter I feel embarassed to agree with you, your attitude leaves the same icky taste in my mouth that the Linux zealots leave (or Solaris, Mac, Windows....). If one were to look back in SGI's Irix history there are more than a few skeletons...
Well.. that response was all over the board, calm then wild, then calm....
Anyway, why NOT??? My answer would be, because there would not be a net, if it hadn't been for taxes. Who do you think funded the original DOD/Arpanet? Who (up until recently) paid for maintaining DNS? Who paid to help build the infrastructure for the copper to be put into the ground for data communications around the US?
If all you care about it ME, ME, ME well then go ahead be selfish and build your own road, don't go to a high school or University, grow your own food (government subsidised), and secede for the US and get your own plot of land to be owned exclusively by you forever (of course that doesn't mean you can't be conquered). The US has the LOWEST taxes in the civilized world, try going over to France, Switzerland, Germany, etc. ever heard of 75% tax bracket? I don't like taxes (hell I loathe them) but the amount of good that it does for humanity and for me are worth that small (tiny) amount to pay for my luxury items.
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You are probably the exact same COWARD who whines everytime there is a sgi article. They CAN'T release it for free, they licensed the tech from AT&T and others. If you have a copy of the IDO somewhere and you look at the header files they have copyrights all over them, and they aren't from SGI; hence SGI CAN NOT LEGALLY GIVE THEM TO YOU!!!!
I guess you want sgi to be sued to death by giving out other companies' copyrighted material!!! They are bound by law... oh yeah in your mind I guess that companies should be able to take GPL'd software and make it closed source. I guess you are just a friggin idiot!
I have posted multiple times about getting header files from a linux box then using the compiled gcc (from SGI nontheless) and getting it working just fine. If you aren't able to get it going, I guess that would be because you just aren't smart enough.
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Actually Irix IS the most scalable OS out there, maybe Unicos... but it at least is MUCH more scalable the Solaris. In production today 512 proc SGI Origin 2k running Irix, biggest Solaris 64 proc. Reliable... well that's about as subjective as you can get... for example I've had this experience with SGI's (I'm sure you've had the exact opposite... hence subjective)
I had a Sun certified teacher jaw drop one day. Had a load level of ~300 on a little 2 proc Origin200 doing something like 6k context switch per second spinning it's wheels like hell (poor little abused box), she couldn't believe that box was not completely overwhelmed; it was running just fine one could hardly actually notice that it was being pushed pretty hard. I asked her if she ever saw a Sun box taking that kind of load and remaining that responsive, all she could do was shake her head.
I've not had any bad experiences with Suns either, I believe they could probably go head to head and be a dead heat. Only problem is that SGI marketing sucks big time, you say SGI server and people look dumb founded, no they are not JUST graphic boxes. They have the quickest backplain around, we chose them for that reason we throw around terabytes of data like it was nothing. The really sad part is that SGI is going to get bought up some time in the next 5 years because they can't market squat to anybody... going the way of the Alpha sad really. Damn that got longer than I expected...
The SGI Origin line actually scales to 1024 processors, and that was a what I read a couple of years ago when the line first came out... Only problem is until recently the largest installation was 128 proc, now it's 512; I believe that the Cray link routers weren't able to keep up passing data between nodes fast enough; they increased the capacity by increasing the performance of the interconnects (I believe that's the case anyway, brains fuzzy today). Technically the arch could probably scale up as large as you want, but a bigtime hit occurs when you have to access a node far away; as the interconnects get faster and faster you can build larger and larger archs.
This is a new topic you might want to get on the train away from DeCSS and onto this one. You want to talk about the MPAA go talk about it where it actually is the topic.
One thing I've been trying to wrap my head around lately is, why do people believe they have the right to decompile and start distributing someone else's hard work? It seems to me that the mantra of the opensource movement is free as in freedom not free as in beer; and what these people are doing is reversing that and making it "free as in beer". Haven't people ever thought to work within One thing I've been trying to wrap my head around lately is, why do people believe they have the right to decompile and start distributing someone else's hard work? It seems to me that the mantra of the opensource movement is free as in freedom not free as in beer; and what these people are doing is reversing that and making it "free as in beer". Haven't people ever thought to work within the system... (use your most whiny voice) "oh, but it takes to long", "oh, they didn't want to the first time, so I'm going to make them", "we didn't have it for X platform and I want it now!", "oh, I'm spoiled little brat who can't wait for something".
Forcing a company to release source code really isn't freedom, it sure seems me like strong-arm mafia tactics by snotty brats. Slashdot sure brings itself into a huge fit when a mention of the GPL being violated, now where is our moral outrage that someone is wanting advice on a premeditated violation of someone else's license.
I don't really care if it's legal or not in their home country, I think it's morally wrong to force our opensource ideals onto companies by tactics slashdot would raise holy hell about if the rolls were reversed. If a company doesn't want to release something opensource what right to we have to TAKE AWAY THEIR FREEDOM? I love opensource, I am a firm believer in giving back to the community; but this premeditated stealing of someone else's code I can't agree with.
The biggest problem is that personally they don't have enough time to go through every single email themselves. Heck you even bring it up yourself, you used to get 20+ "cute" messages which you drop to another folder because you don't have time to read them.... Now multiply that 20 by about a thousand and see how much time you would have to do actual work; if you were to have to personally go through each and every one.
Your idea is completly preposterous, I bet that the government would really get something done then... Sorry, Congress can only meet for 30 minutes a year, we have to get back to our email and personally respond to each one. Government would come to a complete and total stand still.
Umm... wait a minute there... who would use it, people who really know computers would NOT use it. How many power users write html in vi or in a GUI editor, now how many grandmothers, etc write in vi (or notepad) compared to the GUI. The gui gets in the way for people who know computers, the gui is meant to help the end user who doesn't know. You can't tell me that if you were to plop your father down in a room by himself (with no help or instruction) in front of a linux text prompt compared to KDE or GNOME or Win98 (assuming he had never seen any of them) that the text prompt would be the one that he prefers as he tries to learn the OS. Most of the world is this way, they get a computer and have to dink around with it; they have no direction as to what they should or should not do. Now do you still think that the "average" user would prefer learning text commands over a GUI?
I understand where you are going with your statements, it would be nice (in theory, until you take a second glance) to have one interface that works with everything and never changes... but of course that would mean that we never would have anything other than a login prompt... not even text menus, heck if we kept it the same we'd still be using punched cards since we won't have to learn that new darn keyboard interface when I can feed a card.
I'm sure they would be willing to pay for their portion of the bandwidth... Of course you would have to start sending a check back to the website for your bit of the bandwidth....
When was the last time you sent a check to slashdot, paying for the bandwidth you are using? Hmm... I guess someone thought that bandwidth only costs the end user; and that websites are free, as in free beer.
No not IP, trademarks and specifically who owns a domain.
I remember (OK fuzzily) lots of posts about how big-X corporation finds out that some fan (or foe) has a similar domain and goes to shut it down. I could go lookup specific examples if you want, but the Sun Java ones (going after coffee shops, etc) is one that pops into my mind, there have been lots of posts on these types of issues.
Whether you are for it or against it, I don't care just put some thought into what your opinion is and then pick a side of the fence don't start acting like hypoctrites changing your opinion when it is an easy way out.
Agree completely, it's really amazing how the Slashdot community bands together against trademarks and then all of the sudden they backpeddle since this is Linux it gets to play by different rules....
I'm thinking I might just have to make a list of every poster on this message pro-trademark lawsuit; so that if they ever bring up a complaint against another company doing it, I will have to remind them how shallow they really are. It's really no wonder companies are warry of Linux, what large is going to take Linux seriously when the people who are advocating it, are showing that they are willing to excuse the same items they are most vocally against when it comes to their beloved Linux.
Not standing behind what ones says is a big peeve of mine, when people start compromising their stated ideals; because they don't feel they should hold certain items to the same rules (because they really like it) shows how shallow they really are.
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It's not even the pro-Linux/anti-Microsoft... it's the complete and total duh factor. I thought that anybody above a nuckle dragging caveman could see that this obviously only affects Ms 95+. Pro-linux, anti-microsoft fine, it's the dumbness of the topic that offends me.
I guess I don't like be talked to as if I was a child, it's like having a topic, "Flash... binaries compiled for Solaris won't run on Linux" duh. This topic gives nerds a bad name, I thought the word nerd also had a "not in bottom 5% IQ level" rider attached to it, obviously I was wrong.
It amazes me too that I got moded up, but personally I don't care about moderation; so big whooop drop me to -1.
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I've allways wondered about the $3 CD complaint. What is the big deal if it only costs them a cent to make. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MEDIUM PEOPLE!!! Everything you own could probably be distilled down to an actual manufacturing cost of 1/30th what you paid for it, think about it $150 Nike's cost on $15 to make, how is that different than a CD? Also, you want to complain about getting crappy songs on the CD and "only one is good", then go buy a damn CD single.
,it gets removed from my machine, I don't have a copy of it anymore, win/win. There is still just the one paid for mp3, the music gets shared around, and nobody's bitchin.
What you are paying for is the data on the CD, it's as simple as that. It's just like a backup tape, a DLT 7000 tape may cost $100 but the data on that tape could be actually worth a million dollars if your entire business burns down to the ground and all you've got is that one tape. The tape in itself has very little value, you aren't paying for just a "CD" (heck I chould ship you a few AOL cd's, it that all you care about), you are paying for the MUSIC and that music happens to be on a CD.
If Napster actually did true trading (or giving away) instead of sharing, I would not have any problems with it at all. I buy a mp3, listen to it, and when I'm done with it I put it in a "to be given away folder", when you download it from me
This wouldn't be the exact same innocent guy, who tried to blackmail the company into giving him millions of dollars or else I'll release the code and you'll be screwed.
Hmmm that sure sounds like he's the good guy to me. Completely innocent, like an angel....
Since you are picking out a single word out of an entire statement, I thought I would notify you of your assanine statement.
The statement is "our art" note the word OUR, note the absence of the phrases public art, street performers, accessablility projects. Do you have a regex conversion routine in your head so that s/our/public/. It's interesting to note, your assanine statement assuming that all art it PUBLIC. Ever gone to a movie, broadway theater performance, opera, etc. that you had to pay to get in... a hint, that's most likely not public.
Notice the MOCKING LAUGHTER behind you?
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Reading through the posts, pretty much all of the slashdotter's are saying that we need to find a way to stop this... I seem to remember that just the other day about a story on freenet, where pretty much it was that freenet should not be stopped because of freedom of speech, etc. Does anybody else see the irony in this?
I'd bet that the formula of 92.3% could be applied to freenet (or napster, etc.) almost as equally. Most likely 92.3% of the data on freenet WILL be warez, porn, etc.; but this is a good thing because freenet promotes freedom of speech, isn't this the exact same thing? Pretty much what the slashdot crowd is telling the world, as long as it's speech we AGREE with, we will fight tooth and nail, but if it's something that we DON'T agree with heaven help the flurry of attacks, hate mail, childish behavior that is about to follow.
I don't care if you are for or against the pinkertons, but if you support freenet you should be for the freedom of other people to have their say. Sure incorrect information in one has affects magnituds more than the other, but if one boils it down and gets to the heart of the matter they are infact almost the same. You want the freedom of freenet, you should support the freedom of people to anonymously rat. You don't want people to anonymously rat, then you shouldn't support freenet. They both are probably going to have close to the same numbers for valid to invalid data.
Go ahead let your flames go, but I can't stand people standing up for one ideal (when it suits them) and then oppose that same ideal when it might negatively affect them.
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I'm not sure about that Celeron part, they are already shipping with Xeon's & PIII's. For MIPS.. well they are starting to move away from them since they are excellent ships but are not increasing performance numbers as fast as others (Intel).
I do know that there is a port going on right now that works (without X windows that is, way too much proprietery info about graphics required). Check out linux.sgi.com which looks old but get on the mailing list much newer stuff.
You've got a termination problem there, also if your root drive has not been formatted properly your miniroot will hang.
Ahh yes... Networker one of my favorites... I loved this product at my previous job, ease of use, add-on options, allow the secretary to get her own files (without hardly any training: point click, what time period, where do you want it...).
We are currently slamed with EMC's edm sofware... ugly, but it is kinda nice to be able to take a couple of terabytes directly from a box and throw it onto tape without using any host or network resources. At least it's not Alexandria...
ps. The price of Networker is only ~1k which for some shops seem pretty high but it is so damn worth it, ease of installation, GUI for everyone, wonderful multiplatform support: Solaris, Irix, HP, Linux, Windows..., encryption, archiving...
Of course your results may vary, I've had awful experiences with many other products (which shall remain nameless) that others have had great luck with.
Even though I know I shouldn't respond to a troll, I'll do so anyway because so many others get it wrong.
The key to the problem is that you are comparing clustering to SMP, if I can put a 256 proc SGI O2k box out, it's an order of magnitude faster than a clusterd Intel box for most applications. To cover the rest of those applications introduce clustering, both SGI, SUN have clustering software.
So, you take advantage of the extermely fast SMP capability in your Sun or SGI and use the flexibility of clustering.... lets say you combine 5x 256 CPU SGI Origin boxes, and you've got a kickin' option because they only have to go over the EXTERMELY slow network bottleneck when they have to go between 5 machines, instead of going over the EXTREMELY slow network to go between the 1280 single proc Intel machines (or 160 8 way SMP boxes).
I'm not knocking Beowulf (side note Beowulf is NOT an IBM product), it's great for specific applications that need lots of power for low cost. But the ability to have 256 proc's access the same memory at extereme speeds is something that can't be ignored.
Hmmm... wanna rethink that light years statement?
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So you are saying you'd rather have a cap on a per system than sharing the bandwidth when available? That seems even more draconian, if I've got bandwidth that is available, I can't use it I've peaked my bandwidth.
It is NOT useless to determine good & bad packets, if people would play BY THE RULES and leave things at specified ports, etc. instead of making the total bandwidth down to 56k per box, to making the Napster protocol 56k per box.
Instead of going around the rules, try playing by them sometimes it tends to get better results more of the time. I can tell you this much any users that would try to do an "end-run" around any of the rules on my systems would find their access SEVERLY limited (i.e. they get on the things they can do list instead of the things they can't do these things list, they want access to something not on the list they have to sumbit a change request). If users ask first and give me any reasonable reason for changing a rule, etc. I am more than willing to do it.
Last thing, I know more than a few NETWORK ADMINS who would shoot you for saying sysadmin instead of netadmin, and I know some sys admins who are willing to go on the rampage too, for comparing them to the netadmins, me I'm easy going I'd probably just DDOS you.
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Nope, Linux IS becoming more and more fragmented.
Couple of quick examples
Motorola HA Linux
Linux Distro for ABIT Hardware (Gentus Linux)
only works on their hardware.
There are a whole lot of others who are making distros that have kernel mods that haven't gotten into Linus's "blessed" kernel.
Settle down there sparky. HA linux stands for High Availability... The term has been around for many a year, much longer than VA Linux has been.
Now whether or not they should be naming their distro something so generic... like calling a version TCP Linux (because it run tcp networking), is something that is questionable.
I'd have to disagree with you. Linux is not the one that is thwacking SGI around. There marketing dept. is the only one to blame, (and maybe their old CEO who did that Visual PC fiasco...).
Like you I love my Irix, it runs smooth and clean, never crashes on me and it's got all of the power functions that Linux has (and many more) but Linux hasn't got quite gotten down polish yet. But as a SGI supporter I feel embarassed to agree with you, your attitude leaves the same icky taste in my mouth that the Linux zealots leave (or Solaris, Mac, Windows....). If one were to look back in SGI's Irix history there are more than a few skeletons...
Well.. that response was all over the board, calm then wild, then calm....
Anyway, why NOT??? My answer would be, because there would not be a net, if it hadn't been for taxes. Who do you think funded the original DOD/Arpanet? Who (up until recently) paid for maintaining DNS? Who paid to help build the infrastructure for the copper to be put into the ground for data communications around the US?
If all you care about it ME, ME, ME well then go ahead be selfish and build your own road, don't go to a high school or University, grow your own food (government subsidised), and secede for the US and get your own plot of land to be owned exclusively by you forever (of course that doesn't mean you can't be conquered). The US has the LOWEST taxes in the civilized world, try going over to France, Switzerland, Germany, etc. ever heard of 75% tax bracket? I don't like taxes (hell I loathe them) but the amount of good that it does for humanity and for me are worth that small (tiny) amount to pay for my luxury items.
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You are probably the exact same COWARD who whines everytime there is a sgi article. They CAN'T release it for free, they licensed the tech from AT&T and others. If you have a copy of the IDO somewhere and you look at the header files they have copyrights all over them, and they aren't from SGI; hence SGI CAN NOT LEGALLY GIVE THEM TO YOU!!!!
I guess you want sgi to be sued to death by giving out other companies' copyrighted material!!! They are bound by law... oh yeah in your mind I guess that companies should be able to take GPL'd software and make it closed source. I guess you are just a friggin idiot!
I have posted multiple times about getting header files from a linux box then using the compiled gcc (from SGI nontheless) and getting it working just fine. If you aren't able to get it going, I guess that would be because you just aren't smart enough.
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Cool only problem is that SGI does it today :) Same Irix 6.5 CD's go for my 1 proc as does the 8, 64, 128, 512...
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Just thought I'd get that little jab in there
Actually Irix IS the most scalable OS out there, maybe Unicos... but it at least is MUCH more scalable the Solaris. In production today 512 proc SGI Origin 2k running Irix, biggest Solaris 64 proc. Reliable... well that's about as subjective as you can get... for example I've had this experience with SGI's (I'm sure you've had the exact opposite... hence subjective)
I had a Sun certified teacher jaw drop one day. Had a load level of ~300 on a little 2 proc Origin200 doing something like 6k context switch per second spinning it's wheels like hell (poor little abused box), she couldn't believe that box was not completely overwhelmed; it was running just fine one could hardly actually notice that it was being pushed pretty hard. I asked her if she ever saw a Sun box taking that kind of load and remaining that responsive, all she could do was shake her head.
I've not had any bad experiences with Suns either, I believe they could probably go head to head and be a dead heat. Only problem is that SGI marketing sucks big time, you say SGI server and people look dumb founded, no they are not JUST graphic boxes. They have the quickest backplain around, we chose them for that reason we throw around terabytes of data like it was nothing. The really sad part is that SGI is going to get bought up some time in the next 5 years because they can't market squat to anybody... going the way of the Alpha sad really. Damn that got longer than I expected...
The SGI Origin line actually scales to 1024 processors, and that was a what I read a couple of years ago when the line first came out... Only problem is until recently the largest installation was 128 proc, now it's 512; I believe that the Cray link routers weren't able to keep up passing data between nodes fast enough; they increased the capacity by increasing the performance of the interconnects (I believe that's the case anyway, brains fuzzy today). Technically the arch could probably scale up as large as you want, but a bigtime hit occurs when you have to access a node far away; as the interconnects get faster and faster you can build larger and larger archs.
ccNUMA rocks
Ummm.....
This is a new topic you might want to get on the train away from DeCSS and onto this one. You want to talk about the MPAA go talk about it where it actually is the topic.
One thing I've been trying to wrap my head around lately is, why do people believe they have the right to decompile and start distributing someone else's hard work? It seems to me that the mantra of the opensource movement is free as in freedom not free as in beer; and what these people are doing is reversing that and making it "free as in beer". Haven't people ever thought to work within One thing I've been trying to wrap my head around lately is, why do people believe they have the right to decompile and start distributing someone else's hard work? It seems to me that the mantra of the opensource movement is free as in freedom not free as in beer; and what these people are doing is reversing that and making it "free as in beer". Haven't people ever thought to work within the system... (use your most whiny voice) "oh, but it takes to long", "oh, they didn't want to the first time, so I'm going to make them", "we didn't have it for X platform and I want it now!", "oh, I'm spoiled little brat who can't wait for something".
Forcing a company to release source code really isn't freedom, it sure seems me like strong-arm mafia tactics by snotty brats. Slashdot sure brings itself into a huge fit when a mention of the GPL being violated, now where is our moral outrage that someone is wanting advice on a premeditated violation of someone else's license.
I don't really care if it's legal or not in their home country, I think it's morally wrong to force our opensource ideals onto companies by tactics slashdot would raise holy hell about if the rolls were reversed. If a company doesn't want to release something opensource what right to we have to TAKE AWAY THEIR FREEDOM? I love opensource, I am a firm believer in giving back to the community; but this premeditated stealing of someone else's code I can't agree with.
The biggest problem is that personally they don't have enough time to go through every single email themselves. Heck you even bring it up yourself, you used to get 20+ "cute" messages which you drop to another folder because you don't have time to read them.... Now multiply that 20 by about a thousand and see how much time you would have to do actual work; if you were to have to personally go through each and every one.
Your idea is completly preposterous, I bet that the government would really get something done then... Sorry, Congress can only meet for 30 minutes a year, we have to get back to our email and personally respond to each one. Government would come to a complete and total stand still.
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Umm... wait a minute there... who would use it, people who really know computers would NOT use it. How many power users write html in vi or in a GUI editor, now how many grandmothers, etc write in vi (or notepad) compared to the GUI. The gui gets in the way for people who know computers, the gui is meant to help the end user who doesn't know. You can't tell me that if you were to plop your father down in a room by himself (with no help or instruction) in front of a linux text prompt compared to KDE or GNOME or Win98 (assuming he had never seen any of them) that the text prompt would be the one that he prefers as he tries to learn the OS. Most of the world is this way, they get a computer and have to dink around with it; they have no direction as to what they should or should not do. Now do you still think that the "average" user would prefer learning text commands over a GUI?
I understand where you are going with your statements, it would be nice (in theory, until you take a second glance) to have one interface that works with everything and never changes... but of course that would mean that we never would have anything other than a login prompt... not even text menus, heck if we kept it the same we'd still be using punched cards since we won't have to learn that new darn keyboard interface when I can feed a card.
I'm sure they would be willing to pay for their portion of the bandwidth... Of course you would have to start sending a check back to the website for your bit of the bandwidth....
When was the last time you sent a check to slashdot, paying for the bandwidth you are using? Hmm... I guess someone thought that bandwidth only costs the end user; and that websites are free, as in free beer.
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Yes Mister Mackey
No not IP, trademarks and specifically who owns a domain.
I remember (OK fuzzily) lots of posts about how big-X corporation finds out that some fan (or foe) has a similar domain and goes to shut it down. I could go lookup specific examples if you want, but the Sun Java ones (going after coffee shops, etc) is one that pops into my mind, there have been lots of posts on these types of issues.
Whether you are for it or against it, I don't care just put some thought into what your opinion is and then pick a side of the fence don't start acting like hypoctrites changing your opinion when it is an easy way out.
Agree completely, it's really amazing how the Slashdot community bands together against trademarks and then all of the sudden they backpeddle since this is Linux it gets to play by different rules....
I'm thinking I might just have to make a list of every poster on this message pro-trademark lawsuit; so that if they ever bring up a complaint against another company doing it, I will have to remind them how shallow they really are. It's really no wonder companies are warry of Linux, what large is going to take Linux seriously when the people who are advocating it, are showing that they are willing to excuse the same items they are most vocally against when it comes to their beloved Linux.
Not standing behind what ones says is a big peeve of mine, when people start compromising their stated ideals; because they don't feel they should hold certain items to the same rules (because they really like it) shows how shallow they really are.
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