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Fiber Optic World Records Broken

Thousands of miles of existing fiber still lie dark, but as schnucki writes, "Bell Laboratories believe they have broken two world records in the use of optical fibres to transmit information." They sent 160 gigabits/sec on one wavelength, and then in a separate experiment sent 1,022 separate wavelengths down one fiber. You do the math. Check it out.

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  1. Stability? by nevets · · Score: 3

    I'm just curious what the error rate is. Can you send that much data without loosing a few bits. I'm impressed with the numbers regardless, but if you have a 50% error rate is that good? Also if you loose one bit per byte, can you clam anything? Did they only count the good bits sent?

    Also, what is the speed to transfer the light signals to electrical. I don't have (or have I ever heard of) an optical computer, would be nice though ;). If you send 160 Gb/s (20 GB/s), can you convert that to electrical data without making a bottleneck. I'm not an expert in this area, but I'm curious to know.

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  2. the big news by Haven · · Score: 3

    I think the most impacting news is that optic "router". That is going to have the biggest effect. We dont' need 160gb/s if it has to be converted into an electronic signal everytime it switches fiber lines.

  3. Sampling rates, digital, and misc cool stuff by Signal+11 · · Score: 5
    Just incase you guys didn't know - the reason fiber optic can go so fast is because it transmits analog signals. That means you can layer several hundred harmonics on a single frequency and create a very complex waveform. The trick is in the decoding - converting it to digital. That's where all the sample-rate jazz comes into play.

    This isn't really revolutionary new technology.. we've known about stuff like this for awhile. There's a nearly infinite number of ways to encode frequencies, and stack things onto each other.

    I find myself wanting of the ability to insert IMG tags here. :( In short, picture a sine wave. Now along the slope of one, picture another sine wave attached to it. And so on. I suspect they're doing something like that. Actually, TVs do something like this - it's how the sync pulses and whatnot work. Very facinating technology. Also very old by today's standard, but still very useful.



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    1. Re:Sampling rates, digital, and misc cool stuff by tzanger · · Score: 3

      not unlike modems except on a phone line there is a very limited number of sine waves that can be fit and there amplitude and frequency are quite limited...early modems were 110 bps, then 300 then faster...the max speed of the medium never changed (POTS are limited to 33,600 bps) only the encoding techniques changed ...

      Not quite...

      Modern modems use QAM to send data, not discrete sine waves. If I'm not mistaken "raw" sine waves haven't been used since 300 baud modems... You know the ones where you had the switch to select originate or answer. :-)

      POTS is limited to 2400 baud. You achieve everything faster by encoding more than one bit per "transition" or baud. Modems these days aren't. They are "just" DSPs which don't actually modulate based on a carrier, rather just output what is necessary to achive the symbol.

      Picture a graph centered at the origin. x is phase and y is amplitude. You don't just have +1 and -1. you have (if I'm not mistaken) 6 or 8 levels along each axis. you can choose any of those phases with any of those amplitudes. Essentially you end up with 64 or 256 possibilities per symbol. (I'm pretty sure it's 256)...

      Anyway what I'm trying to describe is a constellation pattern... They're usually illustrated like this:


      . . . . | . . . .
      . . . . | . . . .
      . . . . | . . . .
      . . . . | . . . .
      --------+--------
      . . . . | . . . .
      . . . . | . . . .
      . . . . | . . . .
      . . . . | . . . .


      Each dot represents a possible symbol. You can only spit out 2400 symbols per second over POTS but you can send multiple bits per symbol, or baud, giving you speeds faster than 2400bps.

      The 56k limit on POTS has its roots in how T1s are actually set up and transmitted. T1s are actually transmitted as 193-bit-long frames, 8000 times per second. One of those bits is required to keep frame sync, leaving a payload of 192 bits per frame, giving you 1.536mbps. T1s originally carred voice, sent as 8-bit PCM data. Twelve 193-bit-long frames are logically grouped together and called a super frame. The 6th and 12th frame in the larger super frame had 1 bit used for frame sync as usual, but then instead of the remaining 192 bits being used as 24 8-bit channels, 24 7-bit channels were sent, with the LSB used for line status for each channel (busy, off-hook, etc.). This loss of the LSB every 6 frames wasn't very noticable for voice, but over data it just isn't cool. ESF is similar to SF but 24 193-bit frames were grouped instead of 12 so that 4 bits of framing could be used instead of just 2, on the 6th, 12th, 18th and 24th frame. AFAIK those extra two bits weren't ever really used, they just duplicated the info in the original 2 line status bits.

      Since every 6 frames you're missing a bit and it's not possible for the modem to know which frames will be missing the bit, the modem only relies on the 7 bits being clean. So now you've got 7 bits sent 8000 times a second for 56000bps instead of the theoretical 64000bps per channel over a 'clean' T1 channel.

      This concludes your lesson. If you want to know more, just email me. Hopefully this isn't too far off topic, but it *is* some history about how POTS works with digital transmission. :-)

  4. Re:Using *one* laser by dej05093 · · Score: 3

    If you have a really short pulse length of e.g.
    10 fs (= 10^-14 s!) the spectral range of this
    puls covers the whole visual spectrum. If you
    pick out a small range of this spectrum using
    a grating you will enlarge the length of the
    pulse (if you have a pulse with a length of one
    ns you can't determine the frequency of this
    pulse with a higher precision than one GHz and
    vice versa).
    With fibre gratings you might be able to pick
    out a large number of different spectral ranges
    which can then be modulated individually before
    they are once again combined and put into the
    fibre. With 1550 nm wavelength the required spectral range should be at least about +- 100 nm!
    for a data bandwidth of 20 TBits/s

    Nevertheless it is really amasing!

  5. Someone flunked Fourier analysis by Tau+Zero · · Score: 4
    Vary the single wavelength's amplitude (intensity) alone, and it's still single frequency while carrying data too.
    I see you never studied for a ham radio license or anything else of the sort.

    Varying the intensity of a light source creates "sidebands", the same as it does for RF. These "sidebands" are wavelengths slightly longer and shorter than the "carrier". What you see as an amplitude variation is really the interference of the carrier and the sidebands, as they slip in (high amplitude) and out (low amplitude) of phase over time. If you have a carrier frequency of F and a modulation frequency of M, you'll create sidebands at F+M and F-M. If you have really good filters you can suppress one of the sidebands and still carry all the information, and if you have really good frequency references as well you can ditch the carrier and only bother sending one sideband (you can use the frequency reference at the receiving end to supply the "carrier" for demodulation); this is how SSB radios work.

    What does this mean for optical fiber? It limits how close together your "colors" can be based on how fast each one is modulated. The sidebands get farther and farther from the carrier as the modulation gets faster, and if the sidebands start clashing you get crosstalk and data errors.
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  6. Re:speed of light == c only in a vacuum! by Otto · · Score: 3

    The speed of light through any medium is less than the speed of light in a vacuum. Sometimes light can be made to travel through a medium faster than it's natural rate. This results in a nifty "light shockwave" which I believe is called cherenkov radiation.

    Yep. You can see some cool pics of this effect at http://www.nuc.umr.edu/Reactor/Reactor.ht ml, along with a pretty good explanation of how. It's pretty neat the way it actually happens..

    Furthermore, the light in a fiber actually zig-zags down the fiber channel and does not travel straight down it. This also reduces the signal's speed from c.

    Actually it increases the distance of travel which gives an appearent speed difference from c, which is just as good as slowing it down. :-)



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  7. Re:Fibre Optics vs speed of light. by Mr+Z · · Score: 3
    I'm curious, can the speed of light be measured in Gb/s?

    *sigh* People keep getting rate of propogation confused with rate of transfer. This is latency vs. bandwidth folks.

    For instance, consider the ancient communication method consisting of two people atop hills signalling with lanterns and shades. The latency is really low because the light propogates at near 3e8 m/s in air. The bandwidth sucks. Now consider a freight-train loaded to the gills with DVD-ROMs. The bandwidth is enormous, but the latency sucks.

    The speed of light governs how quickly a packet of data gets from point A to point B. Bandwidth measures the total number of packets of data that you can send from point A to point B at a given time. The two are different, unless you somehow treat each photon as its own packet of data, and we're not there yet.

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  8. Paying for it three times. Also standards. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3
    We need to run fiber to every home in the nation with gov't footing a large chunk of the bill (otherwise no one would do it).

    We'll run fiber to the homes shortly, if something isn't developed soon that's even better. (Take a look at the recent Scientific American articles on the current candidates.)

    Individual fibers to the home are a lot of bux. But a multiwavelengh fiber to the neighborhood and a passive wavelength divider (think prisim) and a bunch of short fibers to the house look like a good cost-tradeoff.

    But having the government pay for it means you get to pay for whichever solution they chose at least three times - once for the install, twice more for the administrators. And the government will chose the wrong one. And the government won't even chose the best price/performance combo for the data rate they do chose.

    Sure the government built the Interstates (kinda). And then they installed a 55 MPH speed limit - city, prarie, or deserted desert. Let them wire your home (or your kid's school) and they'll do it badly, expensively, and use it as a wedge to control the content.

    The fact that I can plug in a *crank* telephone (not pushbutton, not rotary,... a crank phone) from 189x and *still* use it to make and receive calls on POTS lines should say something about the state of telephone tech in supposed advanced nations like the US.

    Actually, it says more about good standards lasting a long time. Just like the Roman's choice of wheel spacing affecting cars, trains, and spacecraft components (that are shipped on trains) to this day.

    The POTS standard is about getting audio from the switch in the city to the houses in the city and to the farms around it. The last mile of the audio part of that job hasn't changed materially since Bell and Strowager. A cheap low-tech solution does it, so why pay a bunch of bux to replace it with something that doesn't interact? Especially when doing so creates an administrative nightmare for no advantage.

    Data is now hitting the wall on the capacity of the infrastructure designed for voice, so you need to replace part or all of it to go beyond.

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