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Red Hat Distro Code-Naming Scheme?

mozart in mirrorshades asks: "Okay, I know that there is a naming convention that is used by RedHat for the distro code-names. I asked some Redhat guys at the Atlanta Linux Showcase (hey Rob!) how the names were linked and they refused to tell me. Apparently there's a link between each pair of names (eg: Cartman(RH6.1) and Lorax(RH6.2?) are both cartoon characters?). Could someone please shed some light on this so I can put an end to my quest?"

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  1. Lorax... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welp,

    I did what you should have done - I went to my favourite search engine and entered "LORAX" into the text field box.

    It came up with a bunch of (dissimilar) entries, but there were two distinct themes:

    Environmentalism, and Dr. Seuss.

    So I'd guess that (since Cartman is a cartoon) that Lorax refers to the Dr. Suess character.

  2. history by cabbey · · Score: 3

    6.1 = cartman
    6.0 = hedwig
    5.2 = apollo
    5.1 = manhattan
    5.0 = hurricane
    4.2 = biltmore
    4.1 = vanderbilt
    4.0 = colgate
    (not too sure about the number for these last two)
    3.1? = the holloween release
    3.0? = the mothers' day release

    these seem to have a pattern within a release... 6.x are cartoon figures (Marc Ewing is marc@elmer-fudd.redhat.com and marc@tweety.redhat.com)
    5.x were WWII fighter planes (Elliot Lee is sopwith@redhat.com) (also drinks)
    4.x were industrialists? (also universities)
    3.x were holidays

    I'm sure there are more patterns not only in here, but also in the mapping of beta name to release name.

    1. Re:history by The+Iconoclast · · Score: 3

      You forgot 5.9 = Starbuck. Starbuck and Apollo were buddies in Battlestar Gallactica!!! Woo Hoo!!

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    2. Re:history by dhackett · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure about the rationales for the other
      names, but RHL 6.0's distribution, named Hedwig
      is named after Harry Potter's owl (his "familiar")
      in "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone",
      which is presently sitting at #3 on the New York
      Times best seller list. I know because I'm reading it to my 8-year old, and I'm adminstering
      a web site for the Dawson College Computer Science
      Department that runs RHL 6.0 on a server called
      obelix.dawsoncollege.qc.ca, named after the character Obelix in the Asterix series by Goscinny
      and Uderzo (very popular in French-speaking
      Quebec).

    3. Re:history by ShadowDragon · · Score: 3

      Right.. I remember asking a friend inside Redhat where exactly 5.9 was hidden and he told me /starbuck and then we got on the topic of the names.. first I though coffee... ;) then he mentioned that 5.x releases were in reference to stuff in Battlestar Gallactica

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    4. Re:history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, the two other Harry Potter books, which were at 1 and 2 last I checked... oh, and Asterix totally rocks; my elementary school library (was it really that long ago?) had them in translation, and I'd love to be able to find them again...

    5. Re:history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when was the Manhattan a WWII fighter plane?

    6. Re:history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4.0 versions were named after breweries.

      -CrazyLion (sorry posting as AC but I'm away from my computer and don't remember my password)

    7. Re:history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's deeper than that even. I think that each name links to each other name. And not just by category. The rumor is that Marc Ewing and another Red Hat founder were at a bar and over a few drinks they came up with SEVERAL names all linked.

      This is what I've put together so far:

      Picasso -> Rembrandt = both painters;
      Rembrandt -> Colgate = toothpastes;
      Colgate -> Vanderbilt = womens' colleges;
      Vanderbilt -> Biltmore = both famous hotels in NY;
      ...
      Apollo -> Starbuck = Battlestar Galactica
      characters;
      Starbuck -> Hedwig = Figure Skating Champions;
      Hedwig -> Lorax = Dr. Seuss Characters;
      Lorax -> Cartman = ??? not sure... probably something more specific than cartoons though...

      -Chris

    8. Re:history by EricWright · · Score: 1

      Heard a rumor that both Lorax and Cartman are names of Word macro viruses...

      Also, Vandy isn't a women's college (see http://www.vanderbilt/edu/facts ). It's nearly 50-50 male/female.

    9. Re:history by whuppy · · Score: 1

      lorax->cartman=cartman bulldozed the rainforest
      manhattan->apollo=two gargantuan projects: the Bomb and the moon shot
      hurricane->manhattan=I dunno, the British WW2 fighter and the Bomb? I doubt it . . .

      (Are we sure Hedwig isn't a reference to Hedwig and the Angry Inch, a "rock musical"?)

      BTW, if you like this sort of puzzle, the Onion's "Cultural Idiocy" quiz may be right up your alley.

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    10. Re:history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >hurricane->manhattan=I dunno, the British WW2 fighter and the Bomb? I doubt it . . .

      Visit the bars a bit more and you'll find that these are drinks...

    11. Re:history by dgreene423 · · Score: 1

      Vanderbilt is a co-ed private university in Nashville, TN. Biltmore Estate is the name of a Vanderbilt family home (castle is more like it) in Ashville, NC. That's the link between those two.

    12. Re:history by James+Youngman · · Score: 1

      There was also Rembrandt. Your numbering of the early versions should also include 3.0.3 and 2.1.

      I can't spot a name for version 2.1 ("Red hat Commercial Linux").

    13. Re:history by rodman · · Score: 1

      loed asterix and obelix, not sure if its german based, but i got a dearth of the books when i was in germany 7 yrs ago-my host family lived near a book factory, and the father of the family worked there, so i got many for free....very good, fun book-even made video game based on it

    14. Re:history by rodman · · Score: 1

      colgate is also a coed school for proof-nba center adonal foyl graduated from colgate

    15. Re:history by Sesse · · Score: 1

      If you like Asterix, there are multiple full-length movies (drawn) about them, and there's even a `real-life' version. Not sure in which countries they exist.

      Of course, this is very off-topic anyway... (But what about Debian?)

      /* Steinar */

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  3. Re:Lorax (a bit offtopic) by Jimithing+DMB · · Score: 1

    Environmentalism and Dr. Seuss are not distinct themes.

    The Lorax was a Dr. Seuss character who builds a factory that makes something out of some type of plant. The Lorax eventually exhausts the natural resources (the plant) and emits too much smog, etc.

    It is a very good story, you should (re)read it sometime. One of my professors read it in class to show an example of allegory.

    If you are interested in similar stories, you can try something like Gulliver's Travels (wonder if Yahoo got its name from the book, or if they just didn't spell "Yee-haw" correctly).

    dave.

  4. Connection! by jesdynf · · Score: 1

    So, the question is, what is the connection between cartoons, fighter planes, industrialists, and holidays?

    I'd have to say Snoopy. Or maybe Mel Blanc.

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  5. Re:Lorax (a bit offtopic) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't read it recently, but IIRC, you have it backwards. The Lorax is the little fuzzy dude who lives in the trees and keeps trying to stop the guys who come and start chopping them down, making th smog, etc. They (the bad guys) ignore him (the Lorax), until the trees (and the birds, and the multi-colored otter-like creatures, and so on) are all gone, at which point the bad guys realize the error of their ways, but it's too late for the Lorax, who leaves to find somewhere without evil people living there.

    Hope this helps.

  6. You are right by Jimithing+DMB · · Score: 1

    Yeah, you are right, thanks. Been like a year since I was in that english class.

    Imagine.. an AC who knows stuff ;)
    Thanks again,
    Dave.

  7. Yahoo! by Ender_Stonebender · · Score: 1

    Yahoo stands for "Yet Another Highly Overrated Oracle." Or so a friend of mine claims, at least.

    -Ender

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    1. Re:Yahoo! by osu-neko · · Score: 1
      Hehe! Cute.

      For the record, it's "Yet Another Hierarchically Organized Oracle".

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    2. Re:Yahoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My girlfriend told me it's:

      You Always Have Other Options.

  8. Picasso, Rembrandt = painters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welp, Perhaps, I assumed you would read/understand my post before you replied. I too went to my favorite search engine and searched for Lorax. The point of the post is that there are links between _all_ of the names that RedHat uses. Not just the Lorax -> Cartman link (hint: it was an example). I'm looking for information about the remaining links. However, thanks for taking the time to berate my post with some nonsensical advice about what I _should_ have done. Save us both time, next time, and if you're not going to post something productive, don't post. Chris

    1. Re:Picasso, Rembrandt = painters by Ghengis · · Score: 1

      Hypocrite. Talk of saving time whilst wasting it doing the same thing you were complaining about...

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  9. Re:Lorax (a bit offtopic) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    NO, NO, NO...the Once-ler was the factory magnate. His plant produced Thneeds, which are things all people need. The Lorax was the pikachu-looking creature who spoke for the trees.

    Environmentalism and Dr. Seuss may be distinct, but "The Lorax" is sure about environmentalism. I mean, who speaks for the trees, for the trees have no voice. The environmentalists, of course. I propose a new nickname for them, Loraxes...er, is that pluralized correctly? Loraxii, Loraii, Loraxen?

  10. What we've come to so far by meni · · Score: 1

    O.K, so to sum things up, the versions of RedHat are:
    6.2 = lorax
    6.1 = cartman
    6.0 = hedwig
    5.9 = starbuck
    5.2 = apollo
    5.1 = manhattan
    5.0 = hurricane
    4.2 = biltmore
    4.1 = vanderbilt
    4.0 = colgate

    And the connections we've come to so far are:
    4.0 -> 4.1 - Colgate, Vanderbilt = Womens' colleges
    4.1 -> 4.2 - Vanderbilt, Biltmore = Famous hotels in NY
    4.2 -> 5.0 - Biltmore, Hurricane = (?)
    5.0 -> 5.1 - Hurricane, Manhattan = Alcoholic beverages
    5.1 -> 5.2 - Manhattan, Apollo = The two projects: the a-bomb and the moon landing
    5.2 -> 5.9 - Apollo, Starbuck = Battlestar Galactica characters
    5.9 -> 6.0 - Starbuck, Hedwig = Figure skating champions
    6.0 -> 6.2 - Hedwig, Lorax = Dr. Seuss characters
    6.1 -> 6.2 - Cartman, Lorax = The cartoon connection?

    1. Re:What we've come to so far by James+Youngman · · Score: 1

      I thought that Vanderbilt and Biltmore were both large houses in New England...

    2. Re:What we've come to so far by anj · · Score: 1

      The Biltmore is a mansion in western North Carolina (not too far from RH's offices). It's been used as a setting for a lot of "rich houses" in movies... the last I recall is "Richie Rich".

  11. Biltmore by neric · · Score: 1

    The Biltmore is also one of the best and most famous resorts in located in Phoenix. There are also some not so famous Biltmore hotels, not part of the orignal Biltmore chain and not nearly as nice.

  12. Moby Dick (anti-trancendentalism) by Diggety_Dank · · Score: 1

    Wasn't starbuck a character in moby dick?

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  13. Re:Lorax (a bit offtopic) by OrigamiSlayer · · Score: 1
    Onceler (sp?) was the one making factories to make Thneeds. The Lorax tried to stop him and save the enviornment. This is the book they banned (or tried to) in logging communities because kids were coming home and telling daddy to stop killing trees.

    Lorax book
    Lorax video

    Origami Slayer

  14. Cartman Lorax by jakari · · Score: 1

    Well, one of Cartman's catch phrases is/was:
    "It's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippie crap!"

    And the Lorax's line was:
    "I am the Lorax; I speak for the trees."

    Hmm.

  15. good one by whuppy · · Score: 1

    Too many martinis on my part.

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