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Aibo Gets Competition: NEC's R100

gupg writes "NEC has a new personal robot in "incubation"; the FAQ says that it's a prototype developed in their research labs. The web page is really amateurish and the robot doesn't look too aesthetically pleasing, but it seems to be much smarter than the AIBO. Looks like they are trying to add a court jester to your house who will switch TV channels, check email and do small-talk with you. Only problem is that the battery lasts for about 1.5-2 hours and recharging takes 2-3 hours. " Believe me, after sharing an office with Rob's Aibo, there's a lot of ground to cover before we've got digital pets.

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  1. It must be stable... by coreman · · Score: 2

    Because "Weebles wobble but they don't fall down"

    If you're not going to fund the appearance group, I think the design is elegantly simple.

  2. R2D2? by doomy · · Score: 2

    Does that look like a distant relative of our favorit robot? Maybe after a few revisions R100 might as well become the adam of R2D2.

    Now some interesting things you can do to with R100..

    Train it to recoginze your pets.. dogs and cats.. Rover and Tom (ok forget the cat)

    Now program R100 to control the doggy. Have fixed times for doggy to eat, take a dump, roll over and play dead, play ball and so on.

    Oh R200 comes with weather proof industrial quality tires and is certified as the first robot driver. So it can take your dog for a walk (And scoop up the poop afterwards).

    speculations are endless......
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  3. I'll probably have to get a new one quite often. by jeroenb · · Score: 2
    The How does it work? page suggests it'll move around on it's own and suggest to do stuff when it gets bored (sort of)

    I can just see my girlfriend coming home and the R100 going: "Hi, how about you and me having some fun together?"

  4. dunno by unhooked · · Score: 3

    It's shaped a little too much like a football,
    I'm afraid I couldn't resist the urge to punt the
    thing the first time it bluescreened.

    1. Re:dunno by plunge · · Score: 2

      My ferrets bluescreen once and awhile... probably because of low memory warnings. :)
      Which brings up an interesting point- namely, real pets can be incredible pains in the neck, but you still love them. My ferrets spend every waking hour looking for things to knock over, chew on, sleep in, and most importantly- stealing all my socks and hinding them under my dresser. And I love em for it regardless, though I groan every time they do something stupid (which is constantly).
      But would consumers put up with such behavior from a purchased robotic pet? And if they wouldn't, what kind of relationship would people have with a robot that never did anything bad or rascally, like a real pet would? Is this a robotic double standard?

  5. Battery Life by warmcat · · Score: 2

    On the battery life issue, I saw a small battery-powered 'robot vacuum cleaner' on the BBC's Tomorrow's World a couple of years ago, which learnt the topology of the room, but most importantly, the location of the power sockets. When it's ''low power'' light came on, it went directly to the power socket and recharged itself. That seemed to me to be the single most important breakthrough in robotics for the last few decades :)

    Now they just need to get it to have a second battery on charge and just swap them when its battery gets low and battery capacity will cease to matter much.

    1. Re:Battery Life by Syberghost · · Score: 2

      This battery life issue is important; unless they can at least reverse those numbers (I.E., 3 hour battery life and 1.5 hour recharge) the product is screwed.

      However, if they can do that, and then make the recharge station into some cute little doggy pillow that RoboFido goes and "curls up in", they will have the killer e-pet.

      I personally would love to have a little daggit that turns the TV to Dragonball Z right before it comes on, then barks at me to tell me to get off the freakin' web and go watch my show. I don't think I'm alone in this.


      NEC, Sony, everybody else, pay attention here:

      They need to look like four-legged critters, but they don't need fur. You could make a generic design that is user-selectable as to whether it barks or meows, and that'll be good enough for folks, but a little biped-appearing humanoid will freak people out. Make it four legs or it won't sell.

      They need to be able to do useful things, which means they need accurate internal clocks, and either infrared or RF data capabilities. If the thing has an IP address and speaks 802.11 you'll sell a jillion of 'em, but that's not stricly necessary for them to sell.

      It's OK if some functions are added if you have a PC for them to talk to, but they better be pretty damn functional without it, and you better make those API's public. Open Source developers will help your sales, and it does *NOT* hurt you if your competition could theoretically make interoperable epets. If you think so, you should get out of the PC business because that's how it works.

      Batteries should last long enough for RoboFido to make it around town on the family shopping trip, and RoboFido should go and lie down in his recharge station looking cute from time to time to recharge all on his own. He should never die on me without warning.

      RoboFido does not need to understand English, but he does need to learn my voice and distinguish me from other humans.

  6. PENGUINS!!! by flyneye · · Score: 2

    i noticed that one of the proposed color schemes
    is penguin-like.we who are interested should
    write them and show an interest in this scheme
    being put into production as well as linux versions of the software.

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  7. Ruxpin Redux by Effugas · · Score: 2

    So, AIBO's not the wonderdog, eh? I should have figured.

    Oh, how I remember growing up, being about as close to Mini-Geek as humanly possible, and drooling over...Teddy Ruxpin.

    For those lucky enough to have been spared the technological disappointment I was forced to experience, little Teddy was a bear with a motor in his mouth...and I swear to you, this bear could TALK! Oh, my poor little Coco 2, with its EARS system, had voice synthesis that sounded so machine like(and yet, here I am 15 years later, and things aren't all that much better)...

    But Teddy was almost...human! Wow! And it responded to the lucky kids that got to play with it!

    Of course, Teddy *was* human--just a tape recorder in the back, with the mouth playing the role as VU meter. It wasn't responsive. It had no voice recognition. It was just a dumb bear.

    There's true genius in the small number of AIBOs being built. Put out a million AIBOs, and everyone discovers it's nowhere near as magical as we'd like to think. Put out 2500, and most of us remain deluded by the myth.

    Yours Truly,

    Dan Kaminsky
    DoxPara Research
    http://www.doxpara.com

  8. TOO cool! by bvmcg · · Score: 2

    With a bit of black paint and some very minor modifications, that thing could REALLY look like a little penguin. :>

  9. Pretty devoid of technical info.... by Fross · · Score: 2

    Well, the first thing that strikes would be the "personability" of the thing... and of course as a geek what's the first thing you want to know? how it works, of course.

    the site is rather devoid of real technical data (onboard processor and storage? how does it interface with the "offboard" pc? what sort of stuff does that pc do?)

    really, this looks unfortunately little more than a very expensive teddy ruxpin shaped in a pokemon style. the few technical specifications there are imply it can only recognize 100 phrases (most, if not all of which, i bet, are preprogrammed, such as turn the tv channel, fetch the remote, read me my email etc) in other words, its functionality is predetermined, with little to no capability for expansion (its 300 output phrases must be similarly preprogrammed)

    ah well, so it's going to be eye candy. so at least, is it going to look good? check out:

    http://www.incx.nec.co.jp/robot/english/idea-e/i dea02a.htm

    the shimizu one looks based on the imac, and the ultraman and uri-chan ones are cool. you could always buy a "feature expansion pack" (aka a box of crayons) i suppose :)

    what intrigues me is its reported "data transfer" capability... one would assume the pc does most of the work and simply transmits it to the bot (as in the emails, for instance), however, what really grabbed my attention was it's supposed ability to display video for you - is it going to have some high-speed wireless connection, and a box attached to the scart input on the tv that receives its input? that would rock. but would also explain why its battery life is pitiful.

    in the end, i think, this is pandering towards the "AI" perceptions of the masses, who can still be amazed by a 'echo "who are you?"; read $idiot; echo "hi, " + $idiot;', turning its head to "listen" to people, and so forth. the idea of offloading the computation onto a remote box is brilliant, and should be the way forward, imho, but i think these manufacturers have to get their priorities right.

    to that end, someone has to come up with a cool robot with some proper semantic responses, learning capabilities and usefulness, then show the public it can be done. any takers?

    Fross :)

  10. Ugly robots and kiddie pages by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2

    The poster wrote something aobut how amatuerish the web page is and how unpleasant looking the lil' critter is.

    Lay off the drugs or at least start sharing them. This is one of the nicer webpages I've come across in a while. Wonderful use of nicely drawn comic strips, very soft colors which are easy to look at, and simple text. Its seems pointed towards children though with its simplicity, which makes you wonder who the target demographic really is.

    As far as the robot goes, yeah its ugly until someone paints him black and attaches a beak and flippers to it and calls it Tux. Then slashdotters will come a runnin'.

  11. Re:Real progress will be made... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2

    I was gonna write a little story about a future where most of your paycheck goes towards an android fund and after a few short years you retire and an android with your name and a DMV-type picture of your face gets your old job.

    You spend the rest of your days living off its salary and loving life, doing all those things you wish you could do but are stuck at work. Oh course this isn't for everyone. Some people stay at their jobs for work they love, while there's people who have little to no interests and are bland boring specimins who deserve to work all day in an office full of robots like themselves.

  12. If... by Graymalkin · · Score: 2

    the designers of the Aibo and the R100 are anything like me they'd program in special commands that would make the robot do silly stuff like kill the neighbors or spit acid. Who would want a non-lethal robot? They have the sensors, all they need now are the weaponry.

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