CFP2000

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Posted by michael on Monday December 20, 1999 @04:54PM from the register-now dept.

The advance program for the Computers, Freedom, and Privacy Conference is now available. The conference is in early April, in Toronto, Canada. They are also offering scholarships for full-time students - deadline January 31 - this is an excellent opportunity to attend one of the most important internet conferences.

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What are these things like? by Gray · 1999-12-20 20:20 · Score: 1

I've never gone to a privacy con before.. Trade shows(both sides of the booth), hacker cons, but never an academic thing like this.. It's tempting to fork over the bucks just to see Neal Stephenson..Basically, I'm wondering if there is fun to be had beyond sitting around listening to speakers.. What's the enviroment like? (festive, somber, alcoholic, etc)..
1. Re:What are these things like? by Anonymous Coward · 1999-12-21 02:16 · Score: 0
  
  See Bruce Sterling's write up of CFP1 at http://lonestar.texas.net/~dub/crack4i.html and other writeups at http://www.research.att.com/~lorrie/pubs/cfp.html and http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/DV/Notes CFP99.html
Good Location. NOT! by Static242 · 1999-12-20 20:39 · Score: 1

Who picked the location?! Some watchdog agency for abuse of liberites! I have an idea lets have liberites conference. Then we will hype it up. Finally get the all the liberals on our bandwagon. Then hold it as FAR away from the average American as possible! (evil laugh in the background) Who thinks of these things?! I guess they figure if you don't have the $$$ and/or time to go there you are not worth hearing from. Either that, or they feel you are to backwater to know educate so why bother.

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1. Re:Good Location. NOT! by lonely · 1999-12-20 20:55 · Score: 1
  
  Erm not everybody in the world is American. Perhaps it is good that it is not in America.... less pressure from big business and the holy right.
2. Re:Good Location. NOT! by lonely · 1999-12-20 20:55 · Score: 1
  
  Erm not everybody in the world is American. Perhaps it is good that it is not in America.... less pressure from big business and the holy right.
  
  (Sorry flamebit, but in bad mood)
3. Re:Good Location. NOT! by Static242 · 1999-12-20 21:19 · Score: 1
  
  I am in now way trying to preach is should be in Armerica or Argentia... I would just like conventions to be more CENTRALLY located. There was no mention of a string of conventions... just one. I am glad a few people can attend, it is the masses I was wondering about.
  
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  The wages of sin are unreported and back taxes are hell to pay.
4. Re:Good Location. NOT! by MrGrieves · 1999-12-20 21:34 · Score: 1
  
  Well, it's really not that far from many major East-coast (U.S.) cities. Why, it's just a hop, skip and a jump from Buffalo, NY ;-) Granted, it'd be a full days' drive away for me (Chicago), but it's just a (roughly) 2-hour flight away. Since air travel is relatively cheap, geographic location seems somewhat secondary, really. It's not like it's in Antarctica or something... Plus, I think it's a good thing to have the conference in a country that seems to have (relatively) progressive views on and polcies about security issues. While I'm not an expert on Canadian law, I'll bet it's better than the U.S. :-p
  
  -Chris
5. Re:Good Location. NOT! by Anonymous Coward · 1999-12-20 22:32 · Score: 0
  
  Ah yes, quite right you are!
  Winnipeg would is more centrally located.
6. Re:Good Location. NOT! by Anonymous Coward · 1999-12-20 23:45 · Score: 0
  
  Yep. You could drive there from Buffalo in a couple of hours. Toronto's a nice city, a good one to have a conference in (IMHO).
  
  And to (sort of) answer you, yes Canada tends to be more progressive than the US. With regard to technology, as well as simpler things like drinking ages (in Ontario, it's 19) and other, um, entertainments :)
They forgot a table tag. by Jason+Skomorowski · 1999-12-20 20:59 · Score: 2

It appears they forgot a table tag on the from.
A functioning copy appears at:
http://hyperion.cc.uregin a.ca/~skomoroj/student-form.html
Student Application Form by {*} · 1999-12-20 21:00 · Score: 1

I can't see it! Is there a bug?
1. Re:Student Application Form by oblom · 1999-12-20 21:14 · Score: 1
  
  It wouldn't hurt if people used HTML checker before uploading web pages. Just because IE4.0 renders invalid HTML as if nothing happened, doesn't mean that it's right.
  
  The author obviously forgot to close the outermost table with </TD></TR></TABLE>
Off Topic, but a real pet peeve by twakar · 1999-12-20 21:59 · Score: 1

I apologize in advance for this, but I would like an answer. Why is it that Americans almost always refer to Canadian cities in City/Country format. I never hear New York, U.S., or Dallas, U.S. Why say Toronto, Canada. It's Toronto, Ontario, as in Los Angeles, California. Again I apologize for this, but it's been driving me up and the bend for years. Canada has 10 Provinces and 3 Territories, a lot less than 50, and not that hard to remember. Toronto is a large city of 5 million (including surrounding area). I doubt anyone that reads slashdot does not that it is Canada.

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1. Re:Off Topic, but a real pet peeve by Anonymous Coward · 1999-12-20 22:58 · Score: 0
  
  1. Like it or not, Canada is a much less significant country than the U.S. In fact, the population of Canada is LESS than the population of California. 2. America is made up of sovereign states not provinces. Thus, Boston, Massachusetts has been around for a lot longer than Boston, U.S.A. Moreover, states in America have much more political significance than Canadian provinces. 3. Because of the above, there are many overlapping names. Does Newark, U.S.A. mean Newark, Delaware or Newark, New Jersey? Portland Maine or Portland Oregon? Lexington Mass or Lexington Kentucky? Note that these are not obscure towns but significant cities with large populations. 4. Like it or not, the U.S. is the center of western culture.
2. Re:Off Topic, but a real pet peeve by 0xdeadbeef · 1999-12-20 23:15 · Score: 1
  
  2. America is made up of sovereign states not provinces.
  
  heheh, I'd say Canadian provinces are more sovereign than any US state. At least they let Quebec vote on independance. People here have hissy fits because Alaska wants to legalize pot, and Montana wants to do away with speed limits.
  
  4. Like it or not, the U.S. is the center of western culture.
  
  Kind of like Virginia is the center of the internet, no?
weak justification for city/country format by tipjar+administrator · 1999-12-21 02:54 · Score: 1

Torono gets called "toronto, canada" to keep
the idiots among us (you know, the new hires
at the GW2K helpdesk who transfer calls from
new mexico to the international line) from thinking that Ontario is one of the untied states.
student ? by serialk · 1999-12-21 11:05 · Score: 1

why cant students email their app ?
"Pet Peeve" or "How To Get Your Submission Posted" by RainBrot · 1999-12-21 14:17 · Score: 1

If you're disinterested in my reasons for thinking the Canada pet peeve is petty, you might want to skip to the "***" section below, where I actually get back on topic.

Since US press will often refer to major US cities without specifying states, I assume your complaint with specifying city/country in the case of Canadian cities is that the US press uses the US as a default country when specifying location.

Is that really it? Seems weak.

As far as your point regarding Americans not taking the time to learn Canada's thirteen provinces... Canada is just another country in the world. Sure, it's on the same continent as the US, but do you know all the provinces (or whatever) of Mexico? I doubt it.

For whatever reason, the States are well-known all over the world. I don't think the same can be said for many other countries.

Further, US people aren't even aware of their own states. Asking them to memorize your provinces (and why shouldn't every country demand the same?) is absurd.

Further still, does the Canadian press list city, province, AND country every time a Canadian location is specified? I doubt it. Does the Canadian press ever simply specify major Canadian cities, omitting the province? I suspect so.

I really think you need to find a better source of stress. (Clearly you're searching.)

*** Here's where the on-topic stuff starts ***

Now I want to voice a pet peeve of my own.

I keep getting the feeling that the obviously biased and uninformed opinions expressed by slashdot "reporters" are not accidental. I think they're manipulating the readers (that's YOU), because they know that controversy creates interest.

By selecting biased/uninformed submissions like this one in which "karma vs Dogma" was indignant about what he/she believes are inflated expense claims relating to cracking, slashdot is hoping to spawn a lot of great free commentary from qualified professionals. As has been pointed out repeatedly, just about any IT professional understands that incident response involves much more than restoring a couple files from a backup.

I don't think I need to go into further detail on this particular article, since other people have already done a fine job, but I think it's clear that one way to get an article posted on slashdot is to submit something obviously wrong about something controversial.