So you think the people who grow your food, build the things you buy and deliver them to your door... Those are the people you insult, degrade, and cast out?
Your pathetic and ignorant ass is alive because those people allow you to eat some of the food they grow. Cut them off, and you'll starve in a week.
Pretty much the same could be said about the immigrants (legal or illegal) and the Chinese and Mexicans that those people in the rural areas like to complain about...
Europeans will travel to Amsterdam, and Thailand, and so on but nobody wants to go to Germany..
Well, I'm living in Berlin, but I guess all the British and Spanish and French people I thought I see on the streets every day are just in my head, right?
Fun fact: The laws in question here have been pretty much unchanged in 60 years. And Germany had 60+ years of (relative) peace. If you look at the history of Germany and western Europe, you will see that 60 years of peace is almost unheard of.
The current laws in Germany are not perfect. But they are based on the experiences we Germans made in the 100+ years leading up to the formation of our current state. Everything we learned from the horrors of the Third Reich, the deficiencies of the Weimar Republic, the imperialism of the German Empire and further back. And the result is not perfect, but better than everything we had before.
Germany's banning of even discussing Nazism is foolish at best.
How about you first learn what exactly is banned in Germany before you judge? Discussing Nazism is NOT forbidden. Forbidden is glorifying the Nazis and the Third Reich or denying facts like the existence of concentration camps or that the Holocaust happened.
A more honest way would be to admit that Germany is embarrassed by its past and so it tries to whitewash history and pretend that Hitler, and everything associated with him, never existed. What better way to do that than prohibit anyone from talking about it.
Except that's not what happens. Talking about Hitler and the Third Reich is not forbidden. Students learn about it in history class. There are exhibits in museums, at sites of former concentration camps, books are written, films are shot, and more.
What's forbidden is GLORIFYING what Hitler and the Nazis did. Or denying that the Holocaust happened.
Once the paper leave the manufacturing plant, the paper manufacturers don't have any control over what happens with their paper. But Facebook can control what messages are distributed using their services. And they do: They are fast to remove anything they consider erotic by the somewhat prude US standards, but they lag when it comes to complying with actual laws of the countries they are active in.
You consider $79 cheap? A replacement battery for a phones usually costs something like $10-$20. Replacing a battery should take maybe 10 minutes on a phone that is not especially designed to make replacing the battery hard. So you're paying more than $60 for 10 minutes of work. That's not cheap.
Or appointing governments to run countries that are not elected by the people.
Can you give an actual, real-world example for the EU appointing some country's government?
The fact that most pro-EU remain voters after the referendum reacted with predictable "well that vote didn't count" or "let's have a do over!" should have come as no surprise to anyone.
Yeah... except that the petition for a do-over was opened by a pro-Leave voter and opened BEFORE the referendum. But why should facts matter, right?
If everyone wanted that a majority of the population would not have voted to leave.
Um... you're assuming that everyone was fully informed and aware of all the consequences while voting. But we heard enough voices of people who voted leave and then started to realize what benefits they're getting from the EU that they might lose. People change their mind all the time.
EU memebership benefitted some aspects of society in the UK, but impacted a lot of people negatively. It's really good for the rich and powerful though so you don't often hear about the rest of it.
Cornwall are the rich and powerful? The farmes who need the subsidies are rich and powerful? The scientists that may loose funding are rich and powerful?
In the meantime we've just been getting on with it, the sky has yet to fall, the sun still rises most morning and dogs and cats have yet to work out their interpersonal issues.
You are aware that the UK has yet to leave the EU, right? The real problems will arise once the connections are severed and the UK has to stand on it's own.
You're lying to yourself if you think than one single country can negotiate better trade deals than a block of 28 countries. When negotiating it matters how powerful you are compared to the other party, and the EU is stronger than the UK on it's own.
And regarding your other points: We'll see about 'membership fees' and controlling immigration when you are going to ask to get access to the EU market. You can't have the benefits without the obligations. If you believe the BS that Farage and Johnson promised then I feel sorry for you.
I take it that you like people you never voted for or have heard of in a foreign country (Belgium in this case) decide what you have to do, too?
There are the same old lies again.. The British public did elect people into the European Parliament. They did not elect the commissioners, just as they did not elect the British foreign secretary (or whatever it's called), because you usually don't elect people in the administration.
Before the British complain about the supposedly undemocratic EU, they should clean their own house and get rid of the House of Lords, who's members are not elected but appointed.
Hillary at least knows her Libya from Lithuania. Slovenia from Slovakia. Belgium from Brussels (hint: one is a city, the other a state). And she understands the concepts of working with others (say: NATO) and the value of compromises.
Trump would be drunk on power. Couple that with his believes that he is a good business man and knows how to do shit, when politics are in fact a lot different than business, and the world could be in deep trouble.
So let's see, where does the UK make most of it's trade? Exactly: With other EU countries. Now after the Brexit, the UK would have to negotiate new trade deals with the EU. This will take years, as the EU will have no reasson to give the UK any preferential deals. The UK could go the route Norway has taken, but that would mean aggreeing to rules that the EU has set, without any chance to influence the making of said rules.
I find it interesting that many of the posts here that try to defend Appelbaum and point out that the accusations come from anonymous sources were written by Anonymous Cowards...
Seriously, there is no way that this is anything other than an orchestrated take down of the TOR project since they can't eliminate it technically nor in the courts.
And 'they' managed to get three people working on TOR, including a senior member of the team, to take TOR down!
Is your post a case of 'I just ignore the information that doesn't support my conspiracy theory', or do you really believe that everyone working at TOR except Appelbaum is working for the enemy?
Things like two factor auth (user still uses stupid password, but also needs token given by smart-phone app, or recieved by 2nd channel)
[snip]
But no, companies still continue to recommend "secure" passwords. (Which can still be mitigiated using a decent password manager).
Fun fact: TeamViewer supports TFA for several years now. But if people don't use it and instead reuse the same passwords for TV as for other services...
"outside their borders"? Google provides lots of services for EU residents.
"your lil countries"? The EU has some 500 million citizen, compared to the US' 350 or so million. The shareholders would kill Googles executives if they decided to leave the second biggest market.
These laws apply to companies that do business in the EU or with EU residents. If you do business in a different country, you have to follow that countries laws. There's nothing strange about this.
The difference is that the EU doesn't try to impose its laws on other countries. Just on companies that do business within the EU. (And only for the data related to these transactions. As far as I know the laws don't affect what Facebook and Google do with the data they collect from US residents.)
This isn't just about two terrorists. Once Apple complied and build the tools necessary, the tool can and will be used elsewhere.
And what the LEOs don't understand or willfully ignore, is that if a backdoor exists, pretty much everybody can use it. If Apple creates this modified firmware for the US government, other governments around the world will demand access, too. And sooner or later, this firmware will get in the hand of non-government actors with criminal intend, too.
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So you think the people who grow your food, build the things you buy and deliver them to your door ... Those are the people you insult, degrade, and cast out?
Your pathetic and ignorant ass is alive because those people allow you to eat some of the food they grow. Cut them off, and you'll starve in a week.
Pretty much the same could be said about the immigrants (legal or illegal) and the Chinese and Mexicans that those people in the rural areas like to complain about...
Zero protests against Obama? Count again.
Europeans will travel to Amsterdam, and Thailand, and so on but nobody wants to go to Germany..
Well, I'm living in Berlin, but I guess all the British and Spanish and French people I thought I see on the streets every day are just in my head, right?
Fun fact: The laws in question here have been pretty much unchanged in 60 years.
And Germany had 60+ years of (relative) peace. If you look at the history of Germany and western Europe, you will see that 60 years of peace is almost unheard of.
The current laws in Germany are not perfect. But they are based on the experiences we Germans made in the 100+ years leading up to the formation of our current state. Everything we learned from the horrors of the Third Reich, the deficiencies of the Weimar Republic, the imperialism of the German Empire and further back.
And the result is not perfect, but better than everything we had before.
Germany's banning of even discussing Nazism is foolish at best.
How about you first learn what exactly is banned in Germany before you judge?
Discussing Nazism is NOT forbidden. Forbidden is glorifying the Nazis and the Third Reich or denying facts like the existence of concentration camps or that the Holocaust happened.
A more honest way would be to admit that Germany is embarrassed by its past and so it tries to whitewash history and pretend that Hitler, and everything associated with him, never existed. What better way to do that than prohibit anyone from talking about it.
Except that's not what happens. Talking about Hitler and the Third Reich is not forbidden. Students learn about it in history class. There are exhibits in museums, at sites of former concentration camps, books are written, films are shot, and more.
What's forbidden is GLORIFYING what Hitler and the Nazis did. Or denying that the Holocaust happened.
No, thats not equal.
Once the paper leave the manufacturing plant, the paper manufacturers don't have any control over what happens with their paper.
But Facebook can control what messages are distributed using their services. And they do: They are fast to remove anything they consider erotic by the somewhat prude US standards, but they lag when it comes to complying with actual laws of the countries they are active in.
To be fair: Only one of the two earns their money by writing.
You consider $79 cheap?
A replacement battery for a phones usually costs something like $10-$20. Replacing a battery should take maybe 10 minutes on a phone that is not especially designed to make replacing the battery hard. So you're paying more than $60 for 10 minutes of work. That's not cheap.
Or appointing governments to run countries that are not elected by the people.
Can you give an actual, real-world example for the EU appointing some country's government?
The fact that most pro-EU remain voters after the referendum reacted with predictable "well that vote didn't count" or "let's have a do over!" should have come as no surprise to anyone.
Yeah... except that the petition for a do-over was opened by a pro-Leave voter and opened BEFORE the referendum.
But why should facts matter, right?
If everyone wanted that a majority of the population would not have voted to leave.
Um... you're assuming that everyone was fully informed and aware of all the consequences while voting.
But we heard enough voices of people who voted leave and then started to realize what benefits they're getting from the EU that they might lose.
People change their mind all the time.
EU memebership benefitted some aspects of society in the UK, but impacted a lot of people negatively. It's really good for the rich and powerful though so you don't often hear about the rest of it.
Cornwall are the rich and powerful?
The farmes who need the subsidies are rich and powerful?
The scientists that may loose funding are rich and powerful?
You are certainly -ful of something...
In the meantime we've just been getting on with it, the sky has yet to fall, the sun still rises most morning and dogs and cats have yet to work out their interpersonal issues.
You are aware that the UK has yet to leave the EU, right?
The real problems will arise once the connections are severed and the UK has to stand on it's own.
3) To negotiate better-than-average trade deals
You're lying to yourself if you think than one single country can negotiate better trade deals than a block of 28 countries. When negotiating it matters how powerful you are compared to the other party, and the EU is stronger than the UK on it's own.
And regarding your other points: We'll see about 'membership fees' and controlling immigration when you are going to ask to get access to the EU market. You can't have the benefits without the obligations. If you believe the BS that Farage and Johnson promised then I feel sorry for you.
I take it that you like people you never voted for or have heard of in a foreign country (Belgium in this case) decide what you have to do, too?
There are the same old lies again..
The British public did elect people into the European Parliament.
They did not elect the commissioners, just as they did not elect the British foreign secretary (or whatever it's called), because you usually don't elect people in the administration.
Before the British complain about the supposedly undemocratic EU, they should clean their own house and get rid of the House of Lords, who's members are not elected but appointed.
Come on... he's American, so he clearly knows better than the police in a backwater country like Austria!
Hillary at least knows her Libya from Lithuania. Slovenia from Slovakia. Belgium from Brussels (hint: one is a city, the other a state). And she understands the concepts of working with others (say: NATO) and the value of compromises.
Trump would be drunk on power. Couple that with his believes that he is a good business man and knows how to do shit, when politics are in fact a lot different than business, and the world could be in deep trouble.
Europe??
In the EU, the EU or its collections of institutions is often referred to as "Europe".
This is a bit like people in the US saying 'America' when they mean 'the US'.
So let's see, where does the UK make most of it's trade? Exactly: With other EU countries.
Now after the Brexit, the UK would have to negotiate new trade deals with the EU. This will take years, as the EU will have no reasson to give the UK any preferential deals.
The UK could go the route Norway has taken, but that would mean aggreeing to rules that the EU has set, without any chance to influence the making of said rules.
I find it interesting that many of the posts here that try to defend Appelbaum and point out that the accusations come from anonymous sources were written by Anonymous Cowards...
Seriously, there is no way that this is anything other than an orchestrated take down of the TOR project since they can't eliminate it technically nor in the courts.
And 'they' managed to get three people working on TOR, including a senior member of the team, to take TOR down!
Is your post a case of 'I just ignore the information that doesn't support my conspiracy theory', or do you really believe that everyone working at TOR except Appelbaum is working for the enemy?
Things like two factor auth (user still uses stupid password, but also needs token given by smart-phone app, or recieved by 2nd channel)
[snip]
But no, companies still continue to recommend "secure" passwords.
(Which can still be mitigiated using a decent password manager).
Fun fact: TeamViewer supports TFA for several years now.
But if people don't use it and instead reuse the same passwords for TV as for other services...
3GS, 4S, 6S... yeah, totally different :)
"outside their borders"? Google provides lots of services for EU residents.
"your lil countries"? The EU has some 500 million citizen, compared to the US' 350 or so million.
The shareholders would kill Googles executives if they decided to leave the second biggest market.
These laws apply to companies that do business in the EU or with EU residents. If you do business in a different country, you have to follow that countries laws.
There's nothing strange about this.
The difference is that the EU doesn't try to impose its laws on other countries. Just on companies that do business within the EU. (And only for the data related to these transactions. As far as I know the laws don't affect what Facebook and Google do with the data they collect from US residents.)
Commercial is not the same as for profit.
This isn't just about two terrorists.
Once Apple complied and build the tools necessary, the tool can and will be used elsewhere.
And what the LEOs don't understand or willfully ignore, is that if a backdoor exists, pretty much everybody can use it. If Apple creates this modified firmware for the US government, other governments around the world will demand access, too. And sooner or later, this firmware will get in the hand of non-government actors with criminal intend, too.