That is entirely dependent upon what is done with the photographs.
The photographs of coffins returning to Andrews AFB that were used as a statement of fact are not insulting. But, if those same pictures were used in an editorial or opinion article as a prop for the argument, they would be insulting to the dead and their families. And then, why stop just with coffins. There are more amputees than dead, why not have them all photographed and published, and then routinely run follow up stories on their progress, if it helps prove the producer's political point?
I do not like how political the news media, in any mode of transfer, is in the U.S. So, while seeing pictures of all the coffins would help "bring home" the true cost of war, I would not want the dead used by a political party. While we may not agree with their mission, they do deserve to be treated with honor and respect, not as a tool for votes.
Mix sex, science, and religion together and get some quick emotional responses, but not well thought ones.
The issue is that an STD (sex) that may result in cervical cancer has a vaccine (science) that the state government is mandating, possibly influenced by campaign contributions by the manufacturer (politics).
For those who are scientific, you should recognize that sexual abstinence results in the lowest risk of STDs and unplanned pregnancies. No matter how many drugs you use, nothing will beat not being exposed, so attacking those who believe in the most conservative, economical, and environmentally friendly method of prevention is foolish.
Next in line, we have the condom. Simple, cheap, easy to use unless you're too drunk, and helps prevent multiple STDs and pregnancy. Now, we have vaccine for HPV. Which STD will be next for a mandatory vaccine? Or maybe, we could just realize that we can not eat our cake and still have it on the table (hey, ya ate it).
Sorry, I missed this when moderating. To the moderators that hit this negatively, "Troll" is not deserved when you disagree with someone's opinion. It is "a newsgroup post that is deliberately incorrect, intended to provoke readers". It is possible to mod up someone with whom you disagree. Its called respect.
A good point, but civilized society is far from perfect. Wealth, primarily monetary, and authority, backed by laws (who makes those large campaign contributions to get those law made again?), are recognized by the civilized society as symbols of dominance in place of physical strength. We have merely substituted the noble class with the political class. While the overall quality of life has increased, the governing rules have not changed.
But, this is all off the topic of this thread. Without regard to the source of the threat, do not look weak, and do be prepared to fight viciously whatever threatens. Those who choose to use their status to suppress others rarely like a real fight (legal, financial, or physical), a fight that they have a chance at loosing.
I think most of the comments could be summarized as "Metric for anything scientific, Imperial for anything analog". When you want accuracy, use Metric. When you want quick and easy to approximate mentally, Imperial
You brought up one of the reasons for keeping the Imperial measurements. If you're on a long road trip, you often want to know how long to the next destination (assume you don't have GPS). 60 MPH = 1 Mile/minute. Until we make a change to our measurement of time (100 minute hours,10 or 100 hour days?), metric will be incomplete.
Metric is great for anything scientific, but when building/measuring quickly and roughly, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, and 1/32 are easy to portion/measure
As for people in the U.S.A understanding metric, we do, just as people immigrating from metric using countries come to understand Imperial. The numeric values placed are relative. Whether the number for temperature is 60 or 140, that's when the soles on footwear start to melt, and most will agree, its hot
The voters in CA did try to limit state funded benefits to illegal immigrants. This was done by 59% of the voters approving Proposition 187 in 1994. This was first stopped in the courts shortly after approval by a restraining order. It finally died in 1998 when Gray Davis, who opposed Prop 187 in 1994, was elected governor.
In short, it was rule by U.S. District Court Judge Mariana Pfaelzer the the federal government was responsible to determine if a person was present illegally in the U.S.A. Since the local authorties were not permitted to determine an applicant's immigration status, there were no grounds to refuse beneifts, and things remained just at they were before 1994. The taxpayers of California are stuck with paying the benefits.
Back on topic, most immigrants, legal or illegal, that I have met, regardless of hemisphere or nation of birth, have been MOTIVATED. They want to succeed, however they measure success. How does this fits with Prop 187/illegals receiving more benefits than they are contributing? If you knew that by moving 300 miles North your family's living condition (food, water, housing, education) would be greatly increased, would you try? While there are risks in relocating, the potential benefits are great.
I actually like this idea. The only problem is that the companies involved might decide that a area of research is likely to fall under eminent domain, and then avoid that area entirely. Fear of litigation supposedly already threatens "innovation" http://www.sickoflawsuits.org/content/problem/friv olous.cfm
Maybe the solution is to prevent drug companies from being publicly traded, or some other way to make their board less likely to view things with earnings per share in mind.
I take "geeky" in this context to mean "uses electronic devices frequently", like a PC, mobile phone, or game console. Just because they use "tech" devices does not mean they understand how they actually work.
A calculator is an example. Many are taught how to use one, but have no concept of the math involved. An example that would include people in earlier generations is how to calculate a square root, without a calculator.
Overall, the percentage of people who critically analyze the information they receive is no different from one generation to the next.
Actually, most users are stupid. If the message box asked for confirmaton that they would like to eat boiled dog, they would hit Yes.
Windows, for the worse, is the OS of the uneducated, "just give it to me now and easy", masses.
No. If Japan had a nuclear bomb in 1941, they would have used it first, their military believing that they were clever enough to pull off a pre-emptive stike.
TrendMicro's product works well with Windows Vista, including the software firewall. I suspect this is more about who controls what, rather than what software will run on Vista.
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As I recall, "To fill up basketballs"
That is entirely dependent upon what is done with the photographs.
The photographs of coffins returning to Andrews AFB that were used as a statement of fact are not insulting. But, if those same pictures were used in an editorial or opinion article as a prop for the argument, they would be insulting to the dead and their families. And then, why stop just with coffins. There are more amputees than dead, why not have them all photographed and published, and then routinely run follow up stories on their progress, if it helps prove the producer's political point?
I do not like how political the news media, in any mode of transfer, is in the U.S. So, while seeing pictures of all the coffins would help "bring home" the true cost of war, I would not want the dead used by a political party. While we may not agree with their mission, they do deserve to be treated with honor and respect, not as a tool for votes.
Mix sex, science, and religion together and get some quick emotional responses, but not well thought ones.
The issue is that an STD (sex) that may result in cervical cancer has a vaccine (science) that the state government is mandating, possibly influenced by campaign contributions by the manufacturer (politics).
For those who are scientific, you should recognize that sexual abstinence results in the lowest risk of STDs and unplanned pregnancies. No matter how many drugs you use, nothing will beat not being exposed, so attacking those who believe in the most conservative, economical, and environmentally friendly method of prevention is foolish.
Next in line, we have the condom. Simple, cheap, easy to use unless you're too drunk, and helps prevent multiple STDs and pregnancy. Now, we have vaccine for HPV. Which STD will be next for a mandatory vaccine? Or maybe, we could just realize that we can not eat our cake and still have it on the table (hey, ya ate it).
Sorry, I missed this when moderating. To the moderators that hit this negatively, "Troll" is not deserved when you disagree with someone's opinion. It is "a newsgroup post that is deliberately incorrect, intended to provoke readers". It is possible to mod up someone with whom you disagree. Its called respect.
A good point, but civilized society is far from perfect. Wealth, primarily monetary, and authority, backed by laws (who makes those large campaign contributions to get those law made again?), are recognized by the civilized society as symbols of dominance in place of physical strength. We have merely substituted the noble class with the political class. While the overall quality of life has increased, the governing rules have not changed.
But, this is all off the topic of this thread. Without regard to the source of the threat, do not look weak, and do be prepared to fight viciously whatever threatens. Those who choose to use their status to suppress others rarely like a real fight (legal, financial, or physical), a fight that they have a chance at loosing.
Dude! I could not agree more.
This deserves a higher moderation.
I think most of the comments could be summarized as "Metric for anything scientific, Imperial for anything analog". When you want accuracy, use Metric. When you want quick and easy to approximate mentally, Imperial
You brought up one of the reasons for keeping the Imperial measurements. If you're on a long road trip, you often want to know how long to the next destination (assume you don't have GPS). 60 MPH = 1 Mile/minute. Until we make a change to our measurement of time (100 minute hours,10 or 100 hour days?), metric will be incomplete.
Metric is great for anything scientific, but when building/measuring quickly and roughly, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, and 1/32 are easy to portion/measure
As for people in the U.S.A understanding metric, we do, just as people immigrating from metric using countries come to understand Imperial. The numeric values placed are relative. Whether the number for temperature is 60 or 140, that's when the soles on footwear start to melt, and most will agree, its hot
The voters in CA did try to limit state funded benefits to illegal immigrants. This was done by 59% of the voters approving Proposition 187 in 1994. This was first stopped in the courts shortly after approval by a restraining order. It finally died in 1998 when Gray Davis, who opposed Prop 187 in 1994, was elected governor.
In short, it was rule by U.S. District Court Judge Mariana Pfaelzer the the federal government was responsible to determine if a person was present illegally in the U.S.A. Since the local authorties were not permitted to determine an applicant's immigration status, there were no grounds to refuse beneifts, and things remained just at they were before 1994. The taxpayers of California are stuck with paying the benefits.
Back on topic, most immigrants, legal or illegal, that I have met, regardless of hemisphere or nation of birth, have been MOTIVATED. They want to succeed, however they measure success. How does this fits with Prop 187/illegals receiving more benefits than they are contributing? If you knew that by moving 300 miles North your family's living condition (food, water, housing, education) would be greatly increased, would you try? While there are risks in relocating, the potential benefits are great.
Top Google hits for "california proposition 187"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposition_187/ http://www.ssbb.com/article1.html/ http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/03/19/prop.187 /
I actually like this idea. The only problem is that the companies involved might decide that a area of research is likely to fall under eminent domain, and then avoid that area entirely. Fear of litigation supposedly already threatens "innovation" http://www.sickoflawsuits.org/content/problem/friv olous.cfm
Maybe the solution is to prevent drug companies from being publicly traded, or some other way to make their board less likely to view things with earnings per share in mind.
Yes, analog does sometimes trump digital for accuracy.
I take "geeky" in this context to mean "uses electronic devices frequently", like a PC, mobile phone, or game console. Just because they use "tech" devices does not mean they understand how they actually work. A calculator is an example. Many are taught how to use one, but have no concept of the math involved. An example that would include people in earlier generations is how to calculate a square root, without a calculator. Overall, the percentage of people who critically analyze the information they receive is no different from one generation to the next.
Sad that you posted anonymously. This is the correct definition.
Actually, most users are stupid. If the message box asked for confirmaton that they would like to eat boiled dog, they would hit Yes. Windows, for the worse, is the OS of the uneducated, "just give it to me now and easy", masses.
No. If Japan had a nuclear bomb in 1941, they would have used it first, their military believing that they were clever enough to pull off a pre-emptive stike.
TrendMicro's product works well with Windows Vista, including the software firewall. I suspect this is more about who controls what, rather than what software will run on Vista.