those are all grammatical errors because I didn't proof read my post, half of which are the result of typos. I think you'll find that the norm here at/.
As for OpenSSH, I didn't know Theo worked on it, But I did know OpenSSH and OpenBSD we're related. which explains what I said, also you we're the second person to call me on that, it wasn't necessary, but it reinforced your augments that I am an idiot. You're going out on a limb calling me on things like capitalization, and obviously on purpose misspellings.
recently I've been losing patience with slashdot, and posting garbage. if you look at my history you'll notice many of my posts have been modded down (some way down) after they we're modded up. As you can also see i have the +2 bonus, and am, from time to time a modertor, which means i must have gotten karma at some point.
I'm sick of the slashdot way of karma whoring, so I'm also getting lazy, impatient and bored.. I've been posting stuff just to see how it gets received, not because I believe in what I say, or even care about what I'm talking about.
Am at a point where I don't care about my karma, I don't care if other people don't like what I say, I think I'm turning into what slashdot concedes a troll, and if so, so be it.
Simonyi, Charles (father of hungarian notation), has been working on this for at least the last 4 years, there is a paper on it here.
I got to meet Simonyi a few years ago. The group i was working with got interested in IP, (Intentional Programming) and sent me to go check it out. It seemed really cool, they have so far used it a little in Outlook, but we didn't have any direct need for it.
I was just talked to a friend of mine last night, he's a computer security guy. He told me about how the Public/Private keys we're only used for trading a 2 way cypher, like 3DES, or some other cheaper cypher, once they both new the key for that, they would exchange data old sk00l (if you will).
So I said "huh, so except for a man in the middle attack, or brute force, there's really no attacks", "yup". then i said "So all those exploits on ssh are just coding errors right?", "yup".
so what is this like 4th r00t expliot from ssh? You would really think that people making an app to improve security would be more careful about this. Or maybe they did, and it's one of those new sprintf one's, if I remember from defcon (boy that sucked) there was a common exploit via sprintf's that wasn't widely known until recently... , something to do with %n I think..
Shouldn't Theo have caught this? or is he only concerned with OpenSSH?
At least in IE, at my last job I made a DHTML based text editer, with font selection, bold italics, color selection, etc... it was stupidly easy to do.
He's pleased by the idea, but later, after inspecting Freshmeat's new redesign and deciding he doesn't like it, he puts the idea aside.
I thought this was the most interesting part personally. I don't know one geek that goes through with most anything they say. Some are worse then others, my old roommate (no naming names) had an amazing way of saying "I'm going to do xxx" every day, every day it was different. everyday he wouldn't do anything. If he did actually start on anything he said he was going to do he would stop at the first road block, anything that would cause him to stop and think, solve a problem, he would quite.
his new roommate is AMAZINGLY bad. every single time I saw him we would say "Jon, I have this great Idea! I'm going to do bla bla bla, and it's going to have bla bla bla". then sometimes (if he's serious) about it, he might doodle a diagram of some system overview.. it was always a large complicated system, never a simple (do-able) project.
Another friend, talks in theory a lot, and through ideas around, bat rarely says he's actually going to "do something" unless he means it. if he says he's going to, he'll probably at least give it an honest effort. I can respect that.
Another trend is that all of the three are braggarts, strangely in sync with there ability to lie to themselves. The "AMAZINGLY" bad one has a tenendy to say things like, "This sucks! Wednesday I have to have lunch with the CEO of the company, because my flagship product I'm working on is so important. And then the day after that, I have to have lunch with the CTO of the company!", actually ok, that verbatim.
so is it just me or do most "hackers" talk a lot of smack, and rarely do jack?
Resistance is futile, as much as your stray you'll find yourself coming back, you are only punishing yourself by using a linux, or a unix. Windows is the most used OS for GroupWare, office style apps. The key word here is GroupWare, meaning it's software used for groups. email, word documents, excel spreadsheet and PowerPoint are the bread and butter of every office everywhere.
By resisting, maybe for some bitter against MS when Win95 crashed on your 2 years ago. Or maybe because like so many others you've been caught up this wave of OpenSource(tm), Information wants to be free(tm) fanaticism your only stifling your own productivity, just get stuff done. that is your job, not to be a preacher for a cause on a website you continually goto while at work. (probably on your precise Linux(tm) box.
Hey, I run a FreeBSD machine at home, duel boot Linux etc.. But at work I use Outlook, Word VC++ on Win2k. My office does not run Linux friendly environment. My machine never crashes (and when I say never I mean once a week). My email always goes through, and I have a great webbrowser IE5.5. I have no complaints, does anyone really hate windows for the product? Even if you have to run a Win9x, it's not like your installing new drivers everyday, and sure it'll crash, big deal, you reboot the machine. I'll guarantee you that you'll still be more productive then on a Linux machine; where instead of rebooting your tweaking.so files, and trying to find the right version of something so the beta software your trying to run doesn't break.
Finally you'll go back anyway, Windows IS the best GroupWare product, you'll get frustrated with your Linux world, when you find yourself behind in deadlines, or not even know about them because you couldn't read the MS Word document they we're printed on, and like I said, resistance is futile..
I've seen things like this, most of which we're really sophisticated "love testers". you know those machines in walmarts that tell you if your a "cold fish" or a "love machine". I believe those use a pulse rate, or some type of temperature.. or maybe a random number generator:)
more recently I saw a product hyped up to "read your mind" you placed your finger on something, and was able to move a plane just by "thinking" about it. when in reality you we're subconsciously moving your finger the way you wanted to go, this kind trick is common in other applications.
The use of a neural net however is quite good. neural nets are currently used in speech recognition, and writing recognition. basically you say "here's some data, it means A", "here's some other data, it means B". the neural net will be able to tell the two apart and allow for a good degree of error. this is the jitz of it, I'm not really a student of the field.
so it makes sense to use a neural net for a task of "these muscles patterns mean move left", and so forth. I'm just surprised I didn't hear about that success of such an application till they landed a freakin jet with it! but then again slashdot is eregular about there coverage of things, i imagine cmdrtaco and gang turned down the previous articals leading up to this one.
you know according to linus' our words a large patch like ReiserFS shouldn't have made it in. He didn't want to add and large fixes, or features. just small hacky fixes.
Err. I had to deal with some very bad code for a contract job I had at MS. what I did was
1. Tell my manager about the nasty convoluted code.
2. Told her I could rewrite it, or try to hack what's there.
3. I Told here that in the long run it WOULD need to be rewritten, but then again it was a short term project, and I could probably make what was there work.
She decided that since we we're at feature complete, (about 2 months from shipping) It would be better for me to just hack at it. So I did, it worked out ok, I learned more about what the previous guy was doing and managed to work with it.
Sometimes there's code that no one likes, even the author. I think a lot of people have natural attraction toward rewriting something then learn and deal with what's out there. Personally I didn't care what my managers decision was, It wasn't my call, my job is to write the code for the tasks she gives me. Not to take on big projects that will risk the ship date.
Google that will wind up in an embroiled legal battle, and neither company can claim prior art.
Kind of funny, because google themselfs have patented there method of indexing the web, which probably relies heavly on this "prior" patent for indexing the web.
in googles case i think there patent is valid, there search method really is ingenious.
i'm sure i'm not by now, i actually read the review.
Seems like a sweet book, I own the BSD devil book, while ocasionally i can decypher something out of it, it ususlly makes my head spin. Does anyone know if this book is someone more geared towards a laymon, maybe a guide rather then a reference?
Also i wish they would make a book that was like a "stroll through OS design" cover the differences between OS's, what choices they made, how it effects performance, scaleability, etc.. Linux 2.2 is pretty 0ld sk00l compared to Solaris and FreeBSD.
if the code you want is under a BSD licence you don't have to include the source, but you should give them credit.
if it's GPL'd you need to release the GPL code you are using and any mods to it. also give credit to the author(s).
i would talk to your manager about it, see if there ok with admiting there using someone elses code. if not, look for a 3rd party package you can include, a comercial one.
seems like a simple question. are you "artical submision" whoring?
It would be very possible for a group to modify the public source, and change the way it works, but not change the interface behavior at all. Those allowing millions of people to vote for someone they did not intened to.
The company acknowledged that the primary driver behind the upgrade was competition from other codecs, including Windows Media Audio, that purport to offer equivalent or better sound quality at half the MP3 data rate.
1st off. Windows Media Audio (what a crappy name), does NOT offer 128kbit MP3 quality at 64kbit. it's not even close, and you don't need a kick ass pair of speakers from here to tell the difference. Secoundly this is FUD in response to FUD. There lieing about Microsoft's success and saying "we can do the same thing". it's all a lie.
Now what IS true is that Windows Audio Whatever does offer much better quality at lower bitrate, WAAAYYY better quality. MP3 is really geared for >128kbit, while Windows Audio is really for OggVorbis Monty does talk about how OGG should scale very well to lower bitrates, so don't really expect and new compitition.
The new format is going to be fantastic news for sites like Nullsoft's shoutcast.com , live365.com (which only has 56 and lower streams). Where lower bitrates are very common, and well.. sounds like crap.
Finally this is a good marketing move, For microsoft to say, "We have something better" doesn't mean much, for the guys who made the big #1 success to say "We can a new version, that's better". means a lot. It's like "MP3 II, the return of the codec". that and making it backwards compatible is going to mean instance acceptance.
Also FgH is going to be able to protect it's IP better this time around, maybe not even release a "dist10" (demo source) like they did last time, which spawned LAME, BladeEnc, and every other codec outthere.
Hopefully we all give this the big middle one, and use OggVorbis, unfortantly it's not done, and currently performes like crap.. at least for now. hopefully in the future this will change.
one common misconception is that one can not do object oriented design in C, or any language that isn't approved by the OOP zealots. this is just not true, while it may be more natural to write a good object oriented design in C++, Java or Smalltalk. it can also be done in C or BASIC.
one can create objects in C by creating a structure, then passing that structure to every method that performs on that structure. a common use could be something like this.
If you think about it, its like saying that Microsoft have made $5 billion out of these people, and that these people have lost $5 billion because of Microsoft. Maybe these are exceptionally talented individuals, but surely they should only ask for how much they have actually lost?
in lawsuits like this it's 1,000,000 for actual salary injustness. and 4,990,000,000 in personal (mental, ego, whatever) lose.
The legal justification is that if you "stick it to the corperation" big time, they'll actually change there policy. the jurors (spelling?) will see a large rich corperation that can offord it on one side, and vicumized people on the other, so they might not care how much the penalty is.
Uh, you must mean reverse discrimination right? Clearly there are no absence of blacks in most of the major sports (except for ice hockey). I'm not trying to be a bigot, but in sports I think it's almost detrimental to be white nowadays
I'm a dev, and don't play sports. but from time to time i watch a game of football or basketball (mainly to feel somewhat masculene). It seems that the players will be >= 80% black, but certain roles are almost always white, quaterbacks, are almost always white, coachs seem to be nearly 95% white. owners are probably 100% white.
I don't know if it's hard for a black man to get a job doing one of those roles, for a black man to be an owner of a major sports team he would have to be pretty damm rich, and unfortantly, there arn't to many rich black folks out there.. huh, does this sound racist?, naww, must be my white liberal guilt.
It's very easy to support VBScript, in windows all you do is make IActiveScriptSite object, and create an IActiveScript object from the vbscript.dll. if you can support any script language, then you should be able to support VBScript no problem.
Also Microsoft has been known to license VBScript, the now defunked Chili!Soft licensed it so they could port ASP to *nix. Everyone says Microsoft policy is to "Embrace and Extend" this is true, but sometimes the extensions are worth while, I find VBScript a much easier language then JavaScript. the MS DOM makes a lot more sense then the Netscape DOM, people should support what Microsoft has done, even if the WC3 has gotten around to it.
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As for OpenSSH, I didn't know Theo worked on it, But I did know OpenSSH and OpenBSD we're related. which explains what I said, also you we're the second person to call me on that, it wasn't necessary, but it reinforced your augments that I am an idiot. You're going out on a limb calling me on things like capitalization, and obviously on purpose misspellings.
recently I've been losing patience with slashdot, and posting garbage. if you look at my history you'll notice many of my posts have been modded down (some way down) after they we're modded up. As you can also see i have the +2 bonus, and am, from time to time a modertor, which means i must have gotten karma at some point.
I'm sick of the slashdot way of karma whoring, so I'm also getting lazy, impatient and bored.. I've been posting stuff just to see how it gets received, not because I believe in what I say, or even care about what I'm talking about.
Am at a point where I don't care about my karma, I don't care if other people don't like what I say, I think I'm turning into what slashdot concedes a troll, and if so, so be it.
-Jon
Streamripper
I got to meet Simonyi a few years ago. The group i was working with got interested in IP, (Intentional Programming) and sent me to go check it out. It seemed really cool, they have so far used it a little in Outlook, but we didn't have any direct need for it.
-Jon
Streamripper
What the fuck are people publishing a patch if there's not a fix?
Streamripper
So I said "huh, so except for a man in the middle attack, or brute force, there's really no attacks", "yup". then i said "So all those exploits on ssh are just coding errors right?", "yup".
so what is this like 4th r00t expliot from ssh? You would really think that people making an app to improve security would be more careful about this. Or maybe they did, and it's one of those new sprintf one's, if I remember from defcon (boy that sucked) there was a common exploit via sprintf's that wasn't widely known until recently... , something to do with %n I think..
Shouldn't Theo have caught this? or is he only concerned with OpenSSH?
-Jon
Streamripper
Streamripper
I thought this was the most interesting part personally. I don't know one geek that goes through with most anything they say. Some are worse then others, my old roommate (no naming names) had an amazing way of saying "I'm going to do xxx" every day, every day it was different. everyday he wouldn't do anything. If he did actually start on anything he said he was going to do he would stop at the first road block, anything that would cause him to stop and think, solve a problem, he would quite.
his new roommate is AMAZINGLY bad. every single time I saw him we would say "Jon, I have this great Idea! I'm going to do bla bla bla, and it's going to have bla bla bla". then sometimes (if he's serious) about it, he might doodle a diagram of some system overview.. it was always a large complicated system, never a simple (do-able) project.
Another friend, talks in theory a lot, and through ideas around, bat rarely says he's actually going to "do something" unless he means it. if he says he's going to, he'll probably at least give it an honest effort. I can respect that.
Another trend is that all of the three are braggarts, strangely in sync with there ability to lie to themselves. The "AMAZINGLY" bad one has a tenendy to say things like, "This sucks! Wednesday I have to have lunch with the CEO of the company, because my flagship product I'm working on is so important. And then the day after that, I have to have lunch with the CTO of the company!", actually ok, that verbatim.
so is it just me or do most "hackers" talk a lot of smack, and rarely do jack?
-Jon
Streamripper
Does this mean they'll be assuming responsibility for the 7-11 module on the International Space Station?
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It's not just 7-11, you forgeting about (taxi-drivers, circle-k, and 70% of contract programmers
, a good deal of which work at MS}
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-Jon
}
Streamripper
By resisting, maybe for some bitter against MS when Win95 crashed on your 2 years ago. Or maybe because like so many others you've been caught up this wave of OpenSource(tm), Information wants to be free(tm) fanaticism your only stifling your own productivity, just get stuff done. that is your job, not to be a preacher for a cause on a website you continually goto while at work. (probably on your precise Linux(tm) box.
Hey, I run a FreeBSD machine at home, duel boot Linux etc.. But at work I use Outlook, Word VC++ on Win2k. My office does not run Linux friendly environment. My machine never crashes (and when I say never I mean once a week). My email always goes through, and I have a great webbrowser IE5.5. I have no complaints, does anyone really hate windows for the product? Even if you have to run a Win9x, it's not like your installing new drivers everyday, and sure it'll crash, big deal, you reboot the machine. I'll guarantee you that you'll still be more productive then on a Linux machine; where instead of rebooting your tweaking
Finally you'll go back anyway, Windows IS the best GroupWare product, you'll get frustrated with your Linux world, when you find yourself behind in deadlines, or not even know about them because you couldn't read the MS Word document they we're printed on, and like I said, resistance is futile..
-Jon
Streamripper
more recently I saw a product hyped up to "read your mind" you placed your finger on something, and was able to move a plane just by "thinking" about it. when in reality you we're subconsciously moving your finger the way you wanted to go, this kind trick is common in other applications.
The use of a neural net however is quite good. neural nets are currently used in speech recognition, and writing recognition. basically you say "here's some data, it means A", "here's some other data, it means B". the neural net will be able to tell the two apart and allow for a good degree of error. this is the jitz of it, I'm not really a student of the field.
so it makes sense to use a neural net for a task of "these muscles patterns mean move left", and so forth. I'm just surprised I didn't hear about that success of such an application till they landed a freakin jet with it! but then again slashdot is eregular about there coverage of things, i imagine cmdrtaco and gang turned down the previous articals leading up to this one.
-Jon
Streamripper
but it works, i guess.
-Jon
Streamripper
though i do understand the k3wlness facter of doing it all in linux, with pre alpha software.
-Jon
Streamripper
Another thing is that apparently 2.4 was failing to boot on i386 machines. It had something to do with the CPU's cache not being large enough i belive.
after looking at the change log think this might be it..
Fix UDF writepage() page locking
anyone know for sure?
-Jon
Streamripper
1. Tell my manager about the nasty convoluted code.
2. Told her I could rewrite it, or try to hack what's there.
3. I Told here that in the long run it WOULD need to be rewritten, but then again it was a short term project, and I could probably make what was there work.
She decided that since we we're at feature complete, (about 2 months from shipping) It would be better for me to just hack at it. So I did, it worked out ok, I learned more about what the previous guy was doing and managed to work with it.
Sometimes there's code that no one likes, even the author. I think a lot of people have natural attraction toward rewriting something then learn and deal with what's out there. Personally I didn't care what my managers decision was, It wasn't my call, my job is to write the code for the tasks she gives me. Not to take on big projects that will risk the ship date.
-Jon
Streamripper
Google that will wind up in an embroiled legal battle, and neither company can claim prior art.
Kind of funny, because google themselfs have patented there method of indexing the web, which probably relies heavly on this "prior" patent for indexing the web.
in googles case i think there patent is valid, there search method really is ingenious.
-Jon
Streamripper
buy or appropriate a superior technology [in this case as standard such as MPEG4]
what tech did MS buy to make IE better then netscape?
maybe good coders?
-Jon
Streamripper
Seems like a sweet book, I own the BSD devil book, while ocasionally i can decypher something out of it, it ususlly makes my head spin. Does anyone know if this book is someone more geared towards a laymon, maybe a guide rather then a reference?
Also i wish they would make a book that was like a "stroll through OS design" cover the differences between OS's, what choices they made, how it effects performance, scaleability, etc.. Linux 2.2 is pretty 0ld sk00l compared to Solaris and FreeBSD.
-Jon
Streamripper
if it's GPL'd you need to release the GPL code you are using and any mods to it. also give credit to the author(s).
i would talk to your manager about it, see if there ok with admiting there using someone elses code. if not, look for a 3rd party package you can include, a comercial one.
seems like a simple question. are you "artical submision" whoring?
-Jon
Streamripper
It would be very possible for a group to modify the public source, and change the way it works, but not change the interface behavior at all. Those allowing millions of people to vote for someone they did not intened to.
-Jon
Streamripper
last time i used the winamp plugin for winamp, the playing, changing the volume, anything. would use 100% cpu.
also compression was about 500X slower then LAME.
but i didn't compress tracks enough to see a "major glitch". i ment performance, as in speed. i didn't enconter any bugs.
-Jon
The company acknowledged that the primary driver behind the upgrade was competition from other codecs, including Windows Media Audio, that purport to offer equivalent or better sound quality at half the MP3 data rate.
1st off. Windows Media Audio (what a crappy name), does NOT offer 128kbit MP3 quality at 64kbit. it's not even close, and you don't need a kick ass pair of speakers from here to tell the difference. Secoundly this is FUD in response to FUD. There lieing about Microsoft's success and saying "we can do the same thing". it's all a lie.
Now what IS true is that Windows Audio Whatever does offer much better quality at lower bitrate, WAAAYYY better quality. MP3 is really geared for >128kbit, while Windows Audio is really for OggVorbis Monty does talk about how OGG should scale very well to lower bitrates, so don't really expect and new compitition.
The new format is going to be fantastic news for sites like Nullsoft's shoutcast.com , live365.com (which only has 56 and lower streams). Where lower bitrates are very common, and well.. sounds like crap.
Finally this is a good marketing move, For microsoft to say, "We have something better" doesn't mean much, for the guys who made the big #1 success to say "We can a new version, that's better". means a lot. It's like "MP3 II, the return of the codec". that and making it backwards compatible is going to mean instance acceptance.
Also FgH is going to be able to protect it's IP better this time around, maybe not even release a "dist10" (demo source) like they did last time, which spawned LAME, BladeEnc, and every other codec outthere.
Hopefully we all give this the big middle one, and use OggVorbis, unfortantly it's not done, and currently performes like crap.. at least for now. hopefully in the future this will change.
-Jon
one common misconception is that one can not do object oriented design in C, or any language that isn't approved by the OOP zealots. this is just not true, while it may be more natural to write a good object oriented design in C++, Java or Smalltalk. it can also be done in C or BASIC.
one can create objects in C by creating a structure, then passing that structure to every method that performs on that structure. a common use could be something like this.
struct window_t win;
window_init(&win)
window_draw(&win);
window_destroy(&win);
it is also possible to perform polymorphism and inheritance with function pointers and other techniques.
-Jon
oh well, at least i've wasted plenty of moderators points..
Moderation Totals:Offtopic=1, Troll=1, Redundant=1, Funny=5, Overrated=4, Total=12.
i don't see the redundantcy though.
-Jon
If you think about it, its like saying that Microsoft have made $5 billion out of these people, and that these people have lost $5 billion because of Microsoft. Maybe these are exceptionally talented individuals, but surely they should only ask for how much they have actually lost?
in lawsuits like this it's 1,000,000 for actual salary injustness. and 4,990,000,000 in personal (mental, ego, whatever) lose.
The legal justification is that if you "stick it to the corperation" big time, they'll actually change there policy. the jurors (spelling?) will see a large rich corperation that can offord it on one side, and vicumized people on the other, so they might not care how much the penalty is.
-Jon
Uh, you must mean reverse discrimination right? Clearly there are no absence of blacks in most of the major sports (except for ice hockey). I'm not trying to be a bigot, but in sports I think it's almost detrimental to be white nowadays
I'm a dev, and don't play sports. but from time to time i watch a game of football or basketball (mainly to feel somewhat masculene). It seems that the players will be >= 80% black, but certain roles are almost always white, quaterbacks, are almost always white, coachs seem to be nearly 95% white. owners are probably 100% white.
I don't know if it's hard for a black man to get a job doing one of those roles, for a black man to be an owner of a major sports team he would have to be pretty damm rich, and unfortantly, there arn't to many rich black folks out there.. huh, does this sound racist?, naww, must be my white liberal guilt.
-Jon
It's very easy to support VBScript, in windows all you do is make IActiveScriptSite object, and create an IActiveScript object from the vbscript.dll. if you can support any script language, then you should be able to support VBScript no problem.
Also Microsoft has been known to license VBScript, the now defunked Chili!Soft licensed it so they could port ASP to *nix. Everyone says Microsoft policy is to "Embrace and Extend" this is true, but sometimes the extensions are worth while, I find VBScript a much easier language then JavaScript. the MS DOM makes a lot more sense then the Netscape DOM, people should support what Microsoft has done, even if the WC3 has gotten around to it.
-Jon
btw: i'm not trolling, I believe this