Got me, but first off you'll have to think of is as "platform group" and "apps groups". No so much OS groups. It would be very useful if the public could still get IE for free with Windows, also media player and well.. notepad and friends. OS's these days are expected to have apps. Look at any Linux distro, they don't come in a big box that says "Linux Kernel 2.2.14", they say "Redhat" and "Turbo" and come with lots (and lots and lots) of apps.
If you considered all the software that is "bundled" with most linux distros then you could put Office/BackOffice and Money all in the OS platform.
But that's not going to happen.
There are some groups that don't fit into either whichever way you look at it. MS Press and MS Hardware aren't even software companies, should they be in the OS or applications group? Maybe it would just be easyier to have one company do Win2k, WinMe and WinCE. And another company just does the rest.
But then you're back to. "what software comes with the OS?"
I don't think the government really thought about this, and if they did I don't think they really understood it. The break up is one of the stupid ways to "fix" Microsoft. I like the idea of opening API's, or Open Source.
The ruling is so idiotic that it may be the reason Microsoft wins the appeal (if they do). They will have a good case for "this isn't really possible, you'll need to think of something else".
. I think this was an incredible learning experience for John Romero
Gee isn't that a nice way to say "sorry you suck, loser?"
From what I've heard around the grape vine (aka stuck in traffic with my roommate). Romero is the wana-bee elite coder that Carmak is. Romero has a very posh office, he enjoys starbucks and power lunches. While Carmak actually produced shit. He was busy making people believe he produced shit.
The way is works at any job I've been at is the general impression of how much work you actually do is about 80% BS and about 20% real work,. Or maybe 90/10. ether case I have a feeling Romero is a craft master at the > percentage and just plain talent-less at real work. Maybe he saw this as a way to prove to people he doesn't suck shit.
Ya, I noticed that too. I also didn't notice any hard drives on the list. What do all these babies boot off CD-ROMS? I wouldn't think so because I don't remember any of those on the list either.
I could be completely wrong here, however it does seem that Sony is essentially letting other manufactures create playstation 2 clones. If I am correct I'm my interpretation, it would lead to a much larger playstation market.
It would be interesting if the playstation became a standard, then it would be up to implementers to create better faster versions. It could change the way the console market works forever.
I could also see graphic cards implementing playstation tech, imagine being able to play all games from your PC, very cool.
Imagine a scheme whereby artists get this choice: each artist generates a public/private key pair. They 'sign' each of their tracks on each of their CDs: encrypting the name of the song, the name of the artist, and information on how/when the song can be distributed, in some agreed format. One flag might be 'no Napster-style distribution'.
MP3 ripping software will support a new standard, wherein the signature for each track is tagged onto the MP3 that's ripped from a CD.
Not a bad idea, I also think the audio watermark is pretty clever. But no matter which way you slice it you can still make copies of it. There are two simple fact that allows this.
A. Anything you can hear you can record. B. Anything you can record will have an open free standard that doesn't have copyright protection.
I swear to god if something like this ever becomes a problem I will write a program that removes any copyright protection from the track, and if necessary converts it to a open format.
It seems to be the highlight feature of modern GUI's. Win2k, WinMe, X, and OS X can all do it. I wouldn't be surprised of QNX and BeOS can on the ball to implement the virtually useless "wow" feature.
Well one thing I predict that all audio and video media will travel over the net. I'm hoping that within 5 to 10 years I will be able to order 30 episodes of the Simpons and instantly have a simpons marathon.
I also see the emergence of server's in every home. Being able to log into your home machine from work or travel will be a common operation. The World Wide Web will continue to evolve, and all common applications like spreadsheet and word proccesors will operate in some ultra-modern HTML.
Phones of course, will be over the net. I doubt they will be able to still charge for "long distance".
I run a NetShow server on a win98 box and it constantly at runs 100 percent processor usage (not to mention crashing all the time). If anyone's ever run a shoutcast stream with winamp/dsp you will know that compressing audio to 128kbit in real time is a also major hit.
One reason it uses so many cycles is due to the amount of data being processed. For instance about 1 minute of raw PCM audio is 8 megs, Compressing 8 megs in a lzw compression isn't even trivial. Compressions like MPEG-4 with audio, at high resolutions is quite a chunk of data to give to the processor.
Another hit is "Variable Streams Casts". For instance NetShow offers the ability to dish out one stream that ranges from 2k a second to 10k a second. To offer variable qualities of data it has to compress to different ranges in parallel.
My concern with this Linux machine is the only viable software for audio+video streaming is Real Networks. Real in my option is worse then Microsoft in the "evil" department. They charge ludicrous licensing fees and harbor one of the most obnoxious marketing departments I have ever seen.
There are Open Source alternatives to Real, but from what I can tell they do not compare in quality, or availability.
I haven't bought CD's since i was 14 (i'm 22 now). I listen to music all the time, usually mom-and-pop stations on shoutcast. Personally i can't stand the music that's played (over and over again) on the radio.
The music stations form shoutcast (icecast and live365) have REAL music. Music I actually really enjoy. Classical, Downtemo, Trance and Jazz. They probably don't play any of this kind of music in the major media because most people don't like it, or it could be because the majority don't like it. When your playing the same some for 10 million people, you may as well go for something most people can tolerate.
I think Lisa Simpson said it best "You'll never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator".
I can't imagine with Judge actually uses the Internet. I know what I'm about to say is prejudice, but i think I'm right none the less. The Judge is an educated man, probably over 40 and doesn't know a whole lot about how the Internet, or web sites work. it's human nature to distrust and be wary of things we do not understand. So i completely agree that this is a double edged sword.
This ruling probably won't amount to much in the ong term, but has been seen as a token of how the Internet and the world wide web at one point was not simply considered another media for information.
Perhaps this is intended only as a proof-of-concept, but a spatula-wielding arm is an extremely overcomplicated way of producing hamburgers and pancakes. Much cheaper (but admittedly less impressive) custom 'hamburger' or 'pancake' machines could accomplish the same work at several orders of magnitude less cost.
I agree, I think that this is mainly a "for show" example; it is not really practical in a cost efficient manor. Burger kind of example has some type of griller. It's a large open oven/open flame grill with a conveyer belt. Raw burger meat goes in one end "home style grilled burgers come out the other".
But I don't thing a custom machine could make a whole "meal". For instance to satisfy the requirements for a happy meal one must grill the hamburger, lay on the lettuce, tomato, onions, prepare the buns and of course special sauce. The minimum wage robot needs to all this, and of course serve it with a smile.
Another impracticality of this prototype is that while McDonalds has their standards and methods for preparing there food, Burger Kind and Wendy's would have another standard. If a company were really serious about selling this robochef it would need to be flexible and versatile enough to do all of these things in whichever way the restaurant expected it.
So I agree that we will not be seeing this one armed machine cook up and fast food any time soon. Perhaps with the advent of the new "rubber muscle" we will see enough development in robotics to really do something this advanced.
i don't know why i'm so pulled into this, but here's my stats on how often things seem to crash. btw: at my apartment i am currently running Win2k, Win98, Suse Linux and FreeBSD 3.4
OS's Win2k: At work1: twice, due to some soundcard driver fucking up. work2: all the freakin time, it's some hardware issue.
Win98: a lot, i'm running a netshow server on one. about every 2 days i get a message about my soundcard driver bailing out. system is really slow. but nothing helps until a reboot.
Linux: i think once, but i can't remeber why.
FreeBSD: i few times while i was fucking around with trying to get some CD Burner working:
Microsoft Apps: Office apps: nothing i can remember, but i don't use them much.
Visual Studio: InterDev, VB and VC++ die all the time. about twice a week
Explorer: (this is the shell for windows people). about once a week explorer dies. this doens't lose any data, i just have to restart it so it's not a biggy.
IE: i dono, 4 times a week. but i use it about 12 hours a day.
some reasons people may think NT/Win2k is unstable. NT can get into a very bad state when an app has gone south. this doesn't happen much, but you will know when windows are drawing and responding veeeery sloooowly. if you are patient enough to kill the bad app, things will go back to normal.
Also explorer does die a lot. this is the shell (i.e. the desktop, and startbar). this is no bigy as you can bring up the task manager and restart explorer. think of it as X crashing.
do i think *nix's are more stable then NT's? hell yes. do i think they are unstable usless OS's? hell no. my work enviorment is Win2k and FreeBSD. i use Win2k as my desktop and telnet into my *nix machines to do anything. I've used KDE, Gnome, Blackbox, etc.. and IMHO they are all slow, unreliable and inmature in comparsion to the Windows GUI.
Thank you Bill Gates, for giving me an extra 5 fps, packaged with the extra 5 BSODs per day
funny yes, but BSOD referses to something that happens in NT, so this has nothing to do with DOS.
why do people strech the truth with the worst most outdated parts of windows and call that "Windowz". when comparing linux to windows you always find./'s comparing windows 95 to a version of linux that will be ready in two years.
I think the key issue here is that these games are dead. All the people who worked on them have left to another group or company. The company may not even have that division anymore. The game no longer sees a profit, it merely exists as a few awards in the hallway trophy cabinet, the original packaged version in the company library, and as some legal papers in the attorneys office.
The attorneys are the only one's paid to even care about the game anymore. So of course you'll find an inane thought process around the freedom of dead games, because Attorneys, in general. Are evil.
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I'm really sick of people focusing on VBScript as some kind of token of Microsoft Evil(tm). The thing about this Trojan is it could have been done on any system, VBScript or not. Lets look at what is does.
1. Get's sent as an attachment: 2. User executes an attachment (big mistake). 3. Attachment does bad stuff.
Basically it's program that does bad stuff. Well shit, any program could do some pretty nasty things if it wanted to. You could write a little sh or perl script to mail all your friends with some little attachment, then wipe anything with a+rw perms, and hell a lot of the newer linux user's might even run it.
This program has got so well propagated due to the generally low computer literacy of Windows users. All my friends (who are geeks), we're not so foolish as to run this attachment, nor did they run programs like "fun.com", from some kids "3l33e3e" web site. It's just the law of the land.
so sega is providing ROM's over the internet and charging for it? huh, i wonder how long it will take to find a way to just save the information perminantly to yer disk.
unless they really thought this out. it'll be cracked by some japanese kid by morning.
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Got me, but first off you'll have to think of is as "platform group" and "apps groups". No so much OS groups. It would be very useful if the public could still get IE for free with Windows, also media player and well.. notepad and friends. OS's these days are expected to have apps. Look at any Linux distro, they don't come in a big box that says "Linux Kernel 2.2.14", they say "Redhat" and "Turbo" and come with lots (and lots and lots) of apps.
If you considered all the software that is "bundled" with most linux distros then you could put Office/BackOffice and Money all in the OS platform.
But that's not going to happen.
There are some groups that don't fit into either whichever way you look at it. MS Press and MS Hardware aren't even software companies, should they be in the OS or applications group? Maybe it would just be easyier to have one company do Win2k, WinMe and WinCE. And another company just does the rest.
But then you're back to. "what software comes with the OS?"
I don't think the government really thought about this, and if they did I don't think they really understood it. The break up is one of the stupid ways to "fix" Microsoft. I like the idea of opening API's, or Open Source.
The ruling is so idiotic that it may be the reason Microsoft wins the appeal (if they do). They will have a good case for "this isn't really possible, you'll need to think of something else".
-Jon
-Jon
Gee isn't that a nice way to say "sorry you suck, loser?"
From what I've heard around the grape vine (aka stuck in traffic with my roommate). Romero is the wana-bee elite coder that Carmak is. Romero has a very posh office, he enjoys starbucks and power lunches. While Carmak actually produced shit. He was busy making people believe he produced shit.
The way is works at any job I've been at is the general impression of how much work you actually do is about 80% BS and about 20% real work,. Or maybe 90/10. ether case I have a feeling Romero is a craft master at the > percentage and just plain talent-less at real work. Maybe he saw this as a way to prove to people he doesn't suck shit.
Looks like it was a pretty big mistake.
-Jon
Damm that sheit be scandalous
Ya, I noticed that too. I also didn't notice any hard drives on the list. What do all these babies boot off CD-ROMS? I wouldn't think so because I don't remember any of those on the list either.
Damm dis shit be scandalous.
-Jon
I could be completely wrong here, however it does seem that Sony is essentially letting other manufactures create playstation 2 clones. If I am correct I'm my interpretation, it would lead to a much larger playstation market.
It would be interesting if the playstation became a standard, then it would be up to implementers to create better faster versions. It could change the way the console market works forever.
I could also see graphic cards implementing playstation tech, imagine being able to play all games from your PC, very cool.
-Jon
it's for MS Research, and can be found here
MP3 ripping software will support a new standard, wherein the signature for each track is tagged onto the MP3 that's ripped from a CD.
Not a bad idea, I also think the audio watermark is pretty clever. But no matter which way you slice it you can still make copies of it. There are two simple fact that allows this.
A. Anything you can hear you can record.
B. Anything you can record will have an open free standard that doesn't have copyright protection.
I swear to god if something like this ever becomes a problem I will write a program that removes any copyright protection from the track, and if necessary converts it to a open format.
-Jon
It seems to be the highlight feature of modern GUI's. Win2k, WinMe, X, and OS X can all do it. I wouldn't be surprised of QNX and BeOS can on the ball to implement the virtually useless "wow" feature.
-Jon
it's at my page www.bigfreakinserver.com
-Jon
Well one thing I predict that all audio and video media will travel over the net. I'm hoping that within 5 to 10 years I will be able to order 30 episodes of the Simpons and instantly have a simpons marathon.
I also see the emergence of server's in every home. Being able to log into your home machine from work or travel will be a common operation. The World Wide Web will continue to evolve, and all common applications like spreadsheet and word proccesors will operate in some ultra-modern HTML.
Phones of course, will be over the net. I doubt they will be able to still charge for "long distance".
-Jon
I run a NetShow server on a win98 box and it constantly at runs 100 percent processor usage (not to mention crashing all the time). If anyone's ever run a shoutcast stream with winamp/dsp you will know that compressing audio to 128kbit in real time is a also major hit.
One reason it uses so many cycles is due to the amount of data being processed. For instance about 1 minute of raw PCM audio is 8 megs, Compressing 8 megs in a lzw compression isn't even trivial. Compressions like MPEG-4 with audio, at high resolutions is quite a chunk of data to give to the processor.
Another hit is "Variable Streams Casts". For instance NetShow offers the ability to dish out one stream that ranges from 2k a second to 10k a second. To offer variable qualities of data it has to compress to different ranges in parallel.
My concern with this Linux machine is the only viable software for audio+video streaming is Real Networks. Real in my option is worse then Microsoft in the "evil" department. They charge ludicrous licensing fees and harbor one of the most obnoxious marketing departments I have ever seen.
There are Open Source alternatives to Real, but from what I can tell they do not compare in quality, or availability.
-Jon
I haven't bought CD's since i was 14 (i'm 22 now). I listen to music all the time, usually mom-and-pop stations on shoutcast. Personally i can't stand the music that's played (over and over again) on the radio.
The music stations form shoutcast (icecast and live365) have REAL music. Music I actually really enjoy. Classical, Downtemo, Trance and Jazz. They probably don't play any of this kind of music in the major media because most people don't like it, or it could be because the majority don't like it. When your playing the same some for 10 million people, you may as well go for something most people can tolerate.
I think Lisa Simpson said it best "You'll never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator".
-Jon
I can't imagine with Judge actually uses the Internet. I know what I'm about to say is prejudice, but i think I'm right none the less. The Judge is an educated man, probably over 40 and doesn't know a whole lot about how the Internet, or web sites work. it's human nature to distrust and be wary of things we do not understand. So i completely agree that this is a double edged sword.
This ruling probably won't amount to much in the ong term, but has been seen as a token of how the Internet and the world wide web at one point was not simply considered another media for information.
-Jon
I agree, I think that this is mainly a "for show" example; it is not really practical in a cost efficient manor. Burger kind of example has some type of griller. It's a large open oven/open flame grill with a conveyer belt. Raw burger meat goes in one end "home style grilled burgers come out the other".
But I don't thing a custom machine could make a whole "meal". For instance to satisfy the requirements for a happy meal one must grill the hamburger, lay on the lettuce, tomato, onions, prepare the buns and of course special sauce. The minimum wage robot needs to all this, and of course serve it with a smile.
Another impracticality of this prototype is that while McDonalds has their standards and methods for preparing there food, Burger Kind and Wendy's would have another standard. If a company were really serious about selling this robochef it would need to be flexible and versatile enough to do all of these things in whichever way the restaurant expected it.
So I agree that we will not be seeing this one armed machine cook up and fast food any time soon. Perhaps with the advent of the new "rubber muscle" we will see enough development in robotics to really do something this advanced.
-Jon
i don't know why i'm so pulled into this, but here's my stats on how often things seem to crash. btw: at my apartment i am currently running Win2k, Win98, Suse Linux and FreeBSD 3.4
OS's
Win2k:
At work1: twice, due to some soundcard driver fucking up.
work2: all the freakin time, it's some hardware issue.
Win98: a lot, i'm running a netshow server on one. about every 2 days i get a message about my soundcard driver bailing out. system is really slow. but nothing helps until a reboot.
Linux: i think once, but i can't remeber why.
FreeBSD: i few times while i was fucking around with trying to get some CD Burner working:
Microsoft Apps:
Office apps: nothing i can remember, but i don't use them much.
Visual Studio: InterDev, VB and VC++ die all the time. about twice a week
Explorer: (this is the shell for windows people). about once a week explorer dies. this doens't lose any data, i just have to restart it so it's not a biggy.
IE: i dono, 4 times a week. but i use it about 12 hours a day.
some reasons people may think NT/Win2k is unstable. NT can get into a very bad state when an app has gone south. this doesn't happen much, but you will know when windows are drawing and responding veeeery sloooowly. if you are patient enough to kill the bad app, things will go back to normal.
Also explorer does die a lot. this is the shell (i.e. the desktop, and startbar). this is no bigy as you can bring up the task manager and restart explorer. think of it as X crashing.
do i think *nix's are more stable then NT's? hell yes. do i think they are unstable usless OS's? hell no. my work enviorment is Win2k and FreeBSD. i use Win2k as my desktop and telnet into my *nix machines to do anything. I've used KDE, Gnome, Blackbox, etc.. and IMHO they are all slow, unreliable and inmature in comparsion to the Windows GUI.
-Jon
umm.. 98 and Me are.
Thank you Bill Gates, for giving me an extra 5 fps, packaged with the extra 5 BSODs per day
funny yes, but BSOD referses to something that happens in NT, so this has nothing to do with DOS.
why do people strech the truth with the worst most outdated parts of windows and call that "Windowz". when comparing linux to windows you always find ./'s comparing windows 95 to a version of linux that will be ready in two years.
it's just plain silly
-Jon
I think the key issue here is that these games are dead. All the people who worked on them have left to another group or company. The company may not even have that division anymore. The game no longer sees a profit, it merely exists as a few awards in the hallway trophy cabinet, the original packaged version in the company library, and as some legal papers in the attorneys office.
The attorneys are the only one's paid to even care about the game anymore. So of course you'll find an inane thought process around the freedom of dead games, because Attorneys, in general. Are evil.
My 2c
-Jon
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I'm really sick of people focusing on VBScript as some kind of token of Microsoft Evil(tm). The thing about this Trojan is it could have been done on any system, VBScript or not. Lets look at what is does.
1. Get's sent as an attachment:
2. User executes an attachment (big mistake).
3. Attachment does bad stuff.
Basically it's program that does bad stuff. Well shit, any program could do some pretty nasty things if it wanted to. You could write a little sh or perl script to mail all your friends with some little attachment, then wipe anything with a+rw perms, and hell a lot of the newer linux user's might even run it.
This program has got so well propagated due to the generally low computer literacy of Windows users. All my friends (who are geeks), we're not so foolish as to run this attachment, nor did they run programs like "fun.com", from some kids "3l33e3e" web site. It's just the law of the land.
-Jon
They're are different standards of ASCII for Unix and MS products. Unix uses a CR for a new line. MS uses CRLF.
Notepad is the simplest possible text editor for windows, so what it doesn't handle this. Wordpad, Word, and IE all handle it fine.
-Jon
It's a documented limit. not a bug.
and under NT/Win2k the limit is 4 gigs. i would say that is enough.
-Jon
it's is a nifty idea to romantisize freeBSD however, as it is currently lurking in the shadows of linux celebraty.
-Jon
so sega is providing ROM's over the internet and charging for it? huh, i wonder how long it will take to find a way to just save the information perminantly to yer disk.
unless they really thought this out. it'll be cracked by some japanese kid by morning.
-Jon