not only did it immediately crash my computer (for the first time in about a month), but my computer now seems to be running much slower...
don't use win98. try NT or win2k.
Just another piece of evidence that proves open source programming doesn't work aww, that's not fair. slashdot is %100 percent open source and i can read your post, can't i?
-Jon
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from my old animation days. it's about 60fps, but since animation is perceived at around 12 people use different tricks. for instance.
movies: 24fps tv: 30fps cartoons/animation: drawn a at 12fps, then doubled. sometimes at 24fps, depends on the scene.
ya know i was talking to one of the guys who worked on ASP from Microsoft, originally it was going to be called "Active Server Scripts". but the acronym, "ASS" lead to a slight change.
meta-data as in title streaming for shoutcast/icecast streams has nothing to do with the mp3 format. it's part of the sc-audio format.
this is all that happens... telnet shoutcast.server:8000 GET / HTTP/1.0
Icy-Bla Bla bla icy-My stream yada yada icy-MetaInterval: 8192
[data] and then every 8192 bytes it adds meta data on top of the mp3.
i haven't looked at the new tech yet. but if they haven't provided a inet streaming protocol, it and it's a frame based format you should be able to do that exact same thing that shoutcast does.
well my roomates been all over BeOS sence the free download thing. one thing we've all noticed is how insanly FAST it is. i could be talking out my ass, but it seems that sence it's a micro-kernel design parts of you computer can be very slow while others are hella fast.
for instance i'll copy over 80megs from one partition to another and won't even notice it. on FreeBSD/Linux/NT i very much notice it. top does as well.
also the API's are very clean. programming in Be is like working with MFC minus the crack. it's really nice.
i don't understand, it's not Apr 1st anymore. this is like saying "Linux For Windows" is out. also there is no link to any information. just a download.
actually NT is designed by the main dude from VMS, and from what i hear NT is pretty close to VMS in design.
maybe the reason the major OS's are so similar is that fact that it's incredibly complicated. i own a copy of "BSD Design and Implementation", the book makes my head spin every 2 sentences. not a lot of people have to time and resources to come up with anything better.
there are small projects though, if you check out yahoo.com OS section you'll see well over 30 OS's. some are very cool. like real-time OS's, true fault tolerance, Mach based OS's, etc...
as for the main topic, i thought id mention that WinCE supports versions of IIS and SQL 7. the reason being that a web interface is nifty for embedded systems.
You're right. It should be punished for so completely obliterating competition that no other products existed to compare it to.
the only product in question in netscape crappy ass browser. VisiCalc lost to Lotus 123, Lotus 123 lost to Excel, WordStar lost to WordPerfect, word perfect lost to Word. etc.. etc... etc... and anyone who looks at netscape vs. IE objectively cant tell you that IE kicks the shit out of netscape anyday. it's a damm fine browser.
And one more note: why open up the Windows source code? Oh, I don't know. Interoperability, put a stop to the extend-and-embrace tactics, proprietary standards, and higher costs as a result of needing to work around that?
another post covered this topic quite well, so i'll just reiterate what he said. remember when netscape went open source? about 2 days of downloading and then everyone realized it was WAY to complicated to make any cool changes. and what else happened with netscape, basically the same old guys kept on designing it. who would design the new open source windows? probably Microsoft, and i'm sure you don't want that. opening standards i can agree with, but the let microsoft deal with there source code.
from what I understand the lawyers killed the personal aviation market due to lawsuits. a friend from work who is very serious about flying tells me that a law(s) have passed that make this much more difficult.
you do have to wonder if something like this (no pun intended) takes off. will we really see the end of these law suits?
True, but realize Chili!Soft ASP is for businesses, specifically the price tag is for ISP's. companies that blow that much for Solaris brand RAM. Or Windows Proxy Server (so not worth it)
It's not for linux hobbyists. Maybe with this buyout things will change. I hope they do.
From about Oct-Dec I worked at Chili!Soft. it's on the first floor of a sad little office complex in Bellevue/WA. Upstairs is Drugstore.com and in the building across is SGI, or at least some part of it.
The only food for 2 miles is a little deli in the building across the way., the place is literally the size of my bedroom and constantly has huge lines. But the food is good.
Oh also there was a service called "Roma Deli" (or something like that) that would stop by everyday around 12pm, all it was is this hot 20 something chick with a ice-cooler. The sandwiches we're overpriced and usually under par. Also the marketing guys would constantly hit on her.
I only worked there for about 2 months because the project I was under was this "rebel group" the CTO (and founder) was putting together. After about 5 weeks we find out he's leaving, apparently the CEO thought we're weren't getting any VC money because of him. And our most of group gets laid off.
This really blew for two new hires that just came on, one from Canada who left his family for the job, not to mention a gig with Coral. It didn't matter for me, for one I hated my job, and second I was on contract.
The IT "group" is this 20 something linux guy. There are some VERY smart people there. At one time we had a "brain puzzle" thing on the white board. Questions that really kill people at interviews, these guys got it FAST. Very smart.
The sad thing is the management just blew. I remember the first company meeting. Basically the CEO said, "ok, we have lots of money, but we need to start making some if we want some more.. so what we're going to do is become a "solutions provider, really give added-value benefit to the ISP virtual market, etc.. etc...". the next meeting it was more like. "ok, we have about enough money for another month. So what we're going to do is push for the linux ASP and try to get some "channel partners" with redhat and other distros".
I don't know what happened after that. But it seemed like a bunch of people we're jumping ship, the moral was pretty low. it seems like it's a good example of bad management killing good ideas and talent.
aye, too true my friend. most of the time people blame the moderators for being one sided and closed minded about MS issues. but just to blame are the people behind./ the people who choose what is it we see, and what we think about, the people who post headlines that outright slam anything Microsoft.
it's not just Microsoft though, it's anything not linux slashdot IS basically the linux church of the Internet. and as in any cult/religion outsiders are not welcome to preach foreign gospel
my roommate talked has been talking to 'Tag' from nullsoft recently. the current attitude is that this piece of software is really going to shake things up. not that I've looked into it that much, after all the site is down. but here's what I've heard second hand.
practically un-stoppable. ITG and edu's can't just block ports to stop this baby. not just mp3's but basically anything. I just downloaded the alpha and noticed the following default extensions.mp3;mp2;mp1;mpg;vqf;avi;mpeg;wav;mod;vo c;it;xm;s3m;stm;wma;mov;asf;zip;rar.
wow..
so it's basically like napster except it will have some type of web of servers connected so it won't have the centralized problem that napster does. someone clear this point up for me.
what will also be interesting to see if this really fly's., I mean this really isn't anything new. back in the days I used to download a bunch of funny stuff off BBS's. now you can get lucky with USEnet, IRC and hotline. but the really success comes from the number of people using it. none of the mentioned have really worked due to popularity. the main reason napster does so well is that there are so many people, so more people get on, like eBay, or shoutcast. it feeds on itself.
Actually, that would be better worded as "The Microsoft world didn't see a true 32 bit OS until NT came out". There were a lot of true 32 bit OSes out before NT, even on the x86 (SCO UNIX, Microport UNIX, Interactive UNIX, etc). On non-x86
this is so discussion is so lame.. *sigh*...
SCO Unix was XENIX, which was a Microsoft Product.
Assuming that 'gates law' of memory expansion holds, this means in another 6 to 8 years, consumer-end computers will ship with 2 to 4GB of RAM, and high-end servers will need at least 16GB of RAM. A 64-bit processor can map thousands of terabytes, (1.84e7) effectively eliminating the 'memory limit' barrier.
Gates law? I thought that was a sarcastic blow at MS for making software that requires twice the RAM every year. I think what the author meant was "Mores Law".
is any account I think 64 bits will bring on a new wonder full world of memory mapped file systems, 4 hours of DVD quality porn cached to RAM, and yet another excuse to buy a bigger badder "faster" computer.
well shit. me my roommate and 4 rocket scientists tried getting that thing playing nice with NT for about 12 hours with no go. maybe with a weak sauce Win98 network it would play nice. but the FAQ for NT/Samba is a freaky weird land, and defiantly not a no-brainer.
I've been on the net since the best web browser was lynx, I've never run a virus protection and (guess what) I've never got a virus.
now like you I am moderately careful, i don't run anything called "runme.com", etc.. but then again I do run piece of shit VB apps from time to time:)
my friend works over at symantec. he says most of the viruses come from three guys. no-one is knows where they get their virus from. and for all I know they write the things.
all I'm saying is that virii are not that big of a deal. now Trojan horses thats something to worry about. back in the 0ld sk00l da ys when I was leaning C I used to run a BBS off WWIV, it was a pseudo-open-source deal where if you registered you could get the source (for about 80 bucks). anyway. the night before the grand 4.xx release me and my friend put in a backdoor to give us super user access. zipped up the puppy and uploaded it to all the major warez sites that carried the WWIV source.
most people didn't use it, but one site. a hak0r site called l0pht (no affiliation, I believe) DID. and I actually got in.
I don't know how easy it would be for someone to do something like this to say.. wuftp. but the possibility is obviously out there.
The GNU General Public License (GPL); The GNU Library or `Lesser' Public License (LGPL); The BSD license; The MIT license (sometimes called called the `X Consortium license'); The Artistic license;
are bad links to./
if anyone wants to mail me them i'll be happy to keep a list on my site. www.bigfreakinserver.com
it should be about the same as a dreamcast. they're both running CE.
realize that while CE is not insanely stable it's not DOS either. I can handle programs crashing and is not all that unstable itself. not to say a game CAN'T crash it, I'm sure it wouldn't be that challenging. I just don't think it'll be an issue.
First off, BSD needs more then anything a bigger more involved community. I'm an avid BSD user and am rather disgusted that the./ posts are so low.
when./ posts a.00000000001 upgrade to the freaking linux kernel you sheep come out droves.
bahh, now with some comments.
At first much of the BSDI codebase will remain proprietary. It will only be freed as it is integrated with FreeBSD. There are some parts of the codebase that cannot be freed because the code was written under a contract that does not permit disclosure.
this bugs me, in practical terms I don't mind working with closed source, however. as an ideological bastard. i really feel like I'm getting bend over.
. Providing those kind of value-adds for FreeBSD on a commercial basis would be a win-win scenario for everyone, I think, and that's just one possible avenue of exploration.
say what market boy? win-win?.. value-adds. Jezzus. I'm really starting to smell something fishy here. maybe FreeBSD on a commercial basis really means it won't be free anymore.
I hope I'm just being paranoid. but I don't trust corporate america, I have a feeling they may try to close the doors a bit to make sure the money river heads in their direction.
it seems whenever anyone talks to much about "what should we call it", like bands or people doing software projects they're really thinking about their interview with Lary King, not making great software.
call me an asshole, it's just something i've noticed. i say less bullshit, more code.
it seems to me Microsoft may very well soon try to infect linux much how is has with Java.
they could as the artical suggested come out with a very clean user friendly distro and port Office to that. i would guess this port would have some VERY Microsoft(tm) only features.
then they could get people NEEDING microsoft/Linux and start manipulating to there control. for instance RedHat is quite a big player right now. many people make.rpm's. this is a bitch for me as i run FreeBSD and debian. not impossible. but a bitch.
you get my mom workin with this super easy linux microsoft put out and she won't want to fuck with it, she doesn't care.
now mind you, i don't think it'll happen. but i wouldn't at all be suprised to know that the big cheases at microsoft arn't thinking about it.
i can't say anything, but i have a strong feeling that microsoft will be playing around with some small opensource deals VERY soon.
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not only did it immediately crash my computer (for the first time in about a month), but my computer now seems to be running much slower...
don't use win98. try NT or win2k.
Just another piece of evidence that proves open source programming doesn't work aww, that's not fair. slashdot is %100 percent open source and i can read your post, can't i?
-Jon
from my old animation days. it's about 60fps, but since animation is perceived at around 12 people use different tricks. for instance.
movies: 24fps
tv: 30fps
cartoons/animation: drawn a at 12fps, then doubled. sometimes at 24fps, depends on the scene.
-Jon
LOL,
ya know i was talking to one of the guys who worked on ASP from Microsoft, originally it was going to be called "Active Server Scripts". but the acronym, "ASS" lead to a slight change.
-Jon
meta-data as in title streaming for shoutcast/icecast streams has nothing to do with the mp3 format. it's part of the sc-audio format.
this is all that happens...
telnet shoutcast.server:8000
GET / HTTP/1.0
Icy-Bla Bla bla
icy-My stream yada yada
icy-MetaInterval: 8192
[data]
and then every 8192 bytes it adds meta data on top of the mp3.
i haven't looked at the new tech yet. but if they haven't provided a inet streaming protocol, it and it's a frame based format you should be able to do that exact same thing that shoutcast does.
-Jon
mp3_check does not work for a large majority of mp3 files. use mp3check (no _) instead.
-Jon
well my roomates been all over BeOS sence the free download thing. one thing we've all noticed is how insanly FAST it is. i could be talking out my ass, but it seems that sence it's a micro-kernel design parts of you computer can be very slow while others are hella fast.
for instance i'll copy over 80megs from one partition to another and won't even notice it. on FreeBSD/Linux/NT i very much notice it. top does as well.
also the API's are very clean. programming in Be is like working with MFC minus the crack. it's really nice.
-Jon
i don't understand, it's not Apr 1st anymore. this is like saying "Linux For Windows" is out. also there is no link to any information. just a download.
someone clue me in.
-Jon
actually NT is designed by the main dude from VMS, and from what i hear NT is pretty close to VMS in design.
maybe the reason the major OS's are so similar is that fact that it's incredibly complicated. i own a copy of "BSD Design and Implementation", the book makes my head spin every 2 sentences. not a lot of people have to time and resources to come up with anything better.
there are small projects though, if you check out yahoo.com OS section you'll see well over 30 OS's. some are very cool. like real-time OS's, true fault tolerance, Mach based OS's, etc...
as for the main topic, i thought id mention that WinCE supports versions of IIS and SQL 7. the reason being that a web interface is nifty for embedded systems.
-Jon
You're right. It should be punished for so completely obliterating competition that no other products existed to compare it to.
the only product in question in netscape crappy ass browser. VisiCalc lost to Lotus 123, Lotus 123 lost to Excel, WordStar lost to WordPerfect, word perfect lost to Word. etc.. etc... etc... and anyone who looks at netscape vs. IE objectively cant tell you that IE kicks the shit out of netscape anyday. it's a damm fine browser.
And one more note: why open up the Windows source code?
Oh, I don't know. Interoperability, put a stop to the extend-and-embrace tactics, proprietary standards, and higher costs as a result of needing to work around that?
another post covered this topic quite well, so i'll just reiterate what he said. remember when netscape went open source? about 2 days of downloading and then everyone realized it was WAY to complicated to make any cool changes. and what else happened with netscape, basically the same old guys kept on designing it. who would design the new open source windows? probably Microsoft, and i'm sure you don't want that. opening standards i can agree with, but the let microsoft deal with there source code.
-Jon
from what I understand the lawyers killed the personal aviation market due to lawsuits. a friend from work who is very serious about flying tells me that a law(s) have passed that make this much more difficult.
you do have to wonder if something like this (no pun intended) takes off. will we really see the end of these law suits?
-Jon
True, but realize Chili!Soft ASP is for businesses, specifically the price tag is for ISP's. companies that blow that much for Solaris brand RAM. Or Windows Proxy Server (so not worth it)
It's not for linux hobbyists. Maybe with this buyout things will change. I hope they do.
-Jon
Well that depends on how you want to play with the numbers J
..
According to netcraft the
"Web Server Usage Ranked by Percentage of Top 100 Shopping Sites" you get.
IIS/ASP = 52%
Netscape = 22%
Apache = 21%
Other = 5%.
got this out of the last MicroNews, Microsoft's internal rag.
From about Oct-Dec I worked at Chili!Soft. it's on the first floor of a sad little office complex in Bellevue/WA. Upstairs is Drugstore.com and in the building across is SGI, or at least some part of it.
The only food for 2 miles is a little deli in the building across the way., the place is literally the size of my bedroom and constantly has huge lines. But the food is good.
Oh also there was a service called "Roma Deli" (or something like that) that would stop by everyday around 12pm, all it was is this hot 20 something chick with a ice-cooler. The sandwiches we're overpriced and usually under par. Also the marketing guys would constantly hit on her.
I only worked there for about 2 months because the project I was under was this "rebel group" the CTO (and founder) was putting together. After about 5 weeks we find out he's leaving, apparently the CEO thought we're weren't getting any VC money because of him. And our most of group gets laid off.
This really blew for two new hires that just came on, one from Canada who left his family for the job, not to mention a gig with Coral. It didn't matter for me, for one I hated my job, and second I was on contract.
The IT "group" is this 20 something linux guy. There are some VERY smart people there. At one time we had a "brain puzzle" thing on the white board. Questions that really kill people at interviews, these guys got it FAST. Very smart.
The sad thing is the management just blew. I remember the first company meeting. Basically the CEO said, "ok, we have lots of money, but we need to start making some if we want some more.. so what we're going to do is become a "solutions provider, really give added-value benefit to the ISP virtual market, etc.. etc...". the next meeting it was more like. "ok, we have about enough money for another month. So what we're going to do is push for the linux ASP and try to get some "channel partners" with redhat and other distros".
I don't know what happened after that. But it seemed like a bunch of people we're jumping ship, the moral was pretty low. it seems like it's a good example of bad management killing good ideas and talent.
-Jon
aye, too true my friend. most of the time people blame the moderators for being one sided and closed minded about MS issues. but just to blame are the people behind ./ the people who choose what is it we see, and what we think about, the people who post headlines that outright slam anything Microsoft.
it's not just Microsoft though, it's anything not linux slashdot IS basically the linux church of the Internet. and as in any cult/religion outsiders are not welcome to preach foreign gospel
-Jon
No, lets play Thermonuclear Warfare
WHAT SIDE DO YOU WANT TO PLAY?
1) LINUX ZEALOTS
2) BSD ZEALOTS
3) TROLLS
---> 3
VERY WELL THEN, I WILL PLAY 1) LINUX ZEALOTS
FIRST POST!!!!!
BSD SUCKS!!!!!
LINUX RULZE!
MICRO$~FT SUCKS!
FIRST POST!!!!!
BSD SUCKS!!!!!
LINUX RULZE!
MICRO$~FT SUCKS!
FIRST POST!!!!!
BSD SUCKS!!!!!
LINUX RULZE!
MICRO$~FT SUCKS!
my roommate talked has been talking to 'Tag' from nullsoft recently. the current attitude is that this piece of software is really going to shake things up. not that I've looked into it that much, after all the site is down. but here's what I've heard second hand.
o c;it;xm;s3m;stm;wma;mov;asf;zip;rar.
practically un-stoppable. ITG and edu's can't just block ports to stop this baby.
not just mp3's but basically anything. I just downloaded the alpha and noticed the following default extensions.mp3;mp2;mp1;mpg;vqf;avi;mpeg;wav;mod;v
wow..
so it's basically like napster except it will have some type of web of servers connected so it won't have the centralized problem that napster does. someone clear this point up for me.
what will also be interesting to see if this really fly's., I mean this really isn't anything new. back in the days I used to download a bunch of funny stuff off BBS's. now you can get lucky with USEnet, IRC and hotline. but the really success comes from the number of people using it. none of the mentioned have really worked due to popularity. the main reason napster does so well is that there are so many people, so more people get on, like eBay, or shoutcast. it feeds on itself.
-Jon
this is so discussion is so lame.. *sigh* ...
SCO Unix was XENIX, which was a Microsoft Product.
-Jon
Gates law? I thought that was a sarcastic blow at MS for making software that requires twice the RAM every year. I think what the author meant was "Mores Law".
is any account I think 64 bits will bring on a new wonder full world of memory mapped file systems, 4 hours of DVD quality porn cached to RAM, and yet another excuse to buy a bigger badder "faster" computer.
-Jon
what got me was the "samba is a no-brainer".
well shit. me my roommate and 4 rocket scientists tried getting that thing playing nice with NT for about 12 hours with no go. maybe with a weak sauce Win98 network it would play nice. but the FAQ for NT/Samba is a freaky weird land, and defiantly not a no-brainer.
I've been on the net since the best web browser was lynx, I've never run a virus protection and (guess what) I've never got a virus.
:)
now like you I am moderately careful, i don't run anything called "runme.com", etc.. but then again I do run piece of shit VB apps from time to time
my friend works over at symantec. he says most of the viruses come from three guys. no-one is knows where they get their virus from.
and for all I know they write the things.
all I'm saying is that virii are not that big of a deal. now Trojan horses thats something to worry about. back in the 0ld sk00l da
ys when I was leaning C I used to run a BBS off WWIV, it was a pseudo-open-source deal where if you registered you could get the source (for about 80 bucks). anyway. the night before the grand 4.xx release me and my friend put in a backdoor to give us super user access. zipped up the puppy and uploaded it to all the major warez sites that carried the WWIV source.
most people didn't use it, but one site. a hak0r site called l0pht (no affiliation, I believe) DID. and I actually got in.
I don't know how easy it would be for someone to do something like this to say.. wuftp. but the possibility is obviously out there.
-Jon
The GNU General Public License (GPL);
The GNU Library or `Lesser' Public License (LGPL);
The BSD license;
The MIT license (sometimes called called the `X Consortium license');
The Artistic license;
are bad links to ./
if anyone wants to mail me them i'll be happy to keep a list on my site. www.bigfreakinserver.com
-Jon
it should be about the same as a dreamcast. they're both running CE.
realize that while CE is not insanely stable it's not DOS either. I can handle programs crashing and is not all that unstable itself. not to say a game CAN'T crash it, I'm sure it wouldn't be that challenging. I just don't think it'll be an issue.
and btw, I've never seen a Dreamcast crash.
-Jon
when ./ posts a .00000000001 upgrade to the freaking linux kernel you sheep come out droves.
bahh, now with some comments.
At first much of the BSDI codebase will remain proprietary. It will only be freed as it is integrated with FreeBSD. There are some parts of the codebase that cannot be freed because the code was written under a contract that does not permit disclosure.
this bugs me, in practical terms I don't mind working with closed source, however. as an ideological bastard. i really feel like I'm getting bend over.
. Providing those kind of value-adds for FreeBSD on a commercial basis would be a win-win scenario for everyone, I think, and that's just one possible avenue of exploration.
say what market boy? win-win?.. value-adds. Jezzus. I'm really starting to smell something fishy here. maybe FreeBSD on a commercial basis really means it won't be free anymore.
I hope I'm just being paranoid. but I don't trust corporate america, I have a feeling they may try to close the doors a bit to make sure the money river heads in their direction.
-Jon
it seems whenever anyone talks to much about "what should we call it", like bands or people doing software projects they're really thinking about their interview with Lary King, not making great software.
call me an asshole, it's just something i've noticed. i say less bullshit, more code.
-Jon
it seems to me Microsoft may very well soon try to infect linux much how is has with Java.
.rpm's. this is a bitch for me as i run FreeBSD and debian. not impossible. but a bitch.
they could as the artical suggested come out with a very clean user friendly distro and port Office to that. i would guess this port would have some VERY Microsoft(tm) only features.
then they could get people NEEDING microsoft/Linux and start manipulating to there control. for instance RedHat is quite a big player right now. many people make
you get my mom workin with this super easy linux microsoft put out and she won't want to fuck with it, she doesn't care.
now mind you, i don't think it'll happen. but i wouldn't at all be suprised to know that the big cheases at microsoft arn't thinking about it.
i can't say anything, but i have a strong feeling that microsoft will be playing around with some small opensource deals VERY soon.
-Jon