And what are we seeking to prove? That there's no God or something?
With these articles on/. that typically seems to be the case. Of course I still haven't heard a decent answer on exactly how existance of life on other planets disproves God . ..
The fact that PBS is sinking to the level of regular TV and airing 'Yet-Another-Reality-Series' or that it will probably work.
Are the scientists going to get voted off? Will they make alliances with each other and scheme to get the other scientists? Will they have to cook rats over their Bunson Burners?
Questions, questions.
Re:Only 7 ammendments left in the Bill of Rights
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And do you think it would be any different if Gore were in charge? Come on! It's hard to blame Republicans when the Dems also voted for the Patriot Act and the Dems are going to reach a resolution (backed by Bush) on Iraq.
The things that you cite that are taking away admendments, the Patriot Act, the War on Terror and the War on Drugs are all very much bi-partesen issues. Complain about elected officials who voted for this because things wouldn't be much different if Bush wasn't in charge and the Dems had the Whitehouse. They all want power, and none of them probably care that much about you. The "current administration" is going to go away in 2 - 6 years. I doubt that will change much.
Why is it that no one understands that there is no way that an invalidation of the GPL would allow anyone to steal any code?
They could if its ruled that you can't give code away and keep a copyright. It's a very gray issue and I admit I don't understand all that much about it but it seems possible that a court could just as easily rule that GPL software is now in the public domain.
I under stand his point I just think that name changing is confusing rather than helping the issue. And if someone doesn't understand what 'GNU' means in the first place it isn't going to stop them from trying to use NDAs etc.
And [OT] The sig is a link to a webcomic that I do with a friend of mine called Naked:People in Car Chases. There are no naked people I promise:) its a joke. Check it out it's actually quite funny (not that I'm biased or anything)
Normally I agree with what you say Bruce but in this case no.
No one knows (i.e. the general public or pointy haired bosses) what 'GNU' means anyway and I think its just going to become more of problem as people get confused thinking it's another distro or something.
The solution in this case is to stop this stupid holy war. We have the DMCA, Palladium, and Microsoft to worry about, we don't need to fight amongst ourselves about a name and we need to ignore the select few that are trying to take credit for Linux at the expense of the thousands of people who work on it.
NDAs won't happen as long as the GPL stands up in court. If it doesn't then saying GNU a million times before you say Linux isn't going to stop companies from taking the code.
I did this too except in HS we used rubber bands to make sling shots with the Technic pieces. It was all fun and games until we actually broke a couple of the longer pieces in two. Too much tension.:)
At least where I live, lots of local companies provide high-speed service, the problem is that they have to buy access on someone else's network and pay the phone company for the equipment at the local office. So in the end you're really dealing with 3 companies and it costs more.
However the service is better normally the ISP deals with the other companies when there are problems. And you just have to talk to them.
At the extreme you have folks who want to eliminate all traces of sex and violence from the popular media against the movie industry who wants to eliminate all property rights of the consumer
If you take anything to an extreme then you get all sorts of bizarre scenaros. For instance I had someone tell me recently that the War on Drugs was a good thing because if we legalize them taking legal drugs to the extreme then we would have anarchy. (oh brother).
Same here. No one said that they are taking all of the sex and violence out of current movies, however some people will pay money for movies that have it removed. What I can't decide between is rights of the consumer vs. artistic lisence of the directors. Personally I don't believe the directors are out to steal rights or make money in this case, if it was about money then they would release a 'mild' version of movies because its been shown that people will pay for it. I think to them it's like if you bought a famous painting such as 'The Birth of Venus' and then put clothes on Venus! They are just using copyright to protect their work.
So yes it is a tough question, but the question isn't between personal choice and morals its between personal choice and artists.
Who needs foreign travel when we can always visit Texas? To view anything more primitive, colorful or barbaric than what we can find in Texas you'd have to find the last tribe of canibals in the last acre of rain forest
Have you ever been to Texas? How about some examples before you simply paint Texans as all the same? Funny that sounds a lot like the profiling you're complaining about, hypocrite.
The MSNBC article goes on and on about how this is great for 'Smart Cards' but in reality it doesn't make them that much more secure that credit cards because most of the theft that happens with credit cards is not breaking into computers, rather it's physical theft of the cards themselves.
A 'smart card' isn't going to stop a pick pocket from theiving your wallet so we're back to square one.
And not to be troll but has this been on/. before? It seems vaguely familiar.
Just post the link to your website on/., if it doesn't crash from the load then it's probably pretty good. Hey maybe Taco should look into this! He could start offering it as a service:)
To use it you have to patch your QT, GTK and Mozilla. I'm not a very good programmer but why couldn't the API be the same so these apps would 'just work'? Maybe I just don't understand how it works.
All I know is that two big barriers to the desktop are fonts and printing. So I'm glad that things are being developed to make it easier.
On one hand its free and should provide useful information to keep our networks and computers secure. On the other hand it's run by the government which of course we all know is bad... choices choices:)
Thank you for your comment, I'm a Christian too and my point is that people who claim to be Christian shouldn't start pointless arguments over what can be interpreted as a metaphor.
So if God is concise, and only says what He wants us to know, then why do we have the account of creation, if it's a non-issue of how the universe got here?
Exactly my point!!! He tells us what he wants us to know. The Creation story really doesn't say much how other than 'God did it', 'God spoke and there was light'. It doesn't go into fine detail and science of the whole thing, it's there to point out that God being all powerful created the world and us. I don't dispute that, but for all we know God spoke "Let there be light" and then the big bang happened creating stars and galaxies and such and thus creating: light.
By that interpretation the whole theory of evolution would fit inside the creation story. And if you get hung up on the 7 days thing, Jesus himself later says "A day is but a 1000 years to God" (sorry I couldn't find the ref) saying that God is not bound by time, which leads me to believe that the 7 days is a metaphor to put the vast amount of time for creation into terms (especially ancient) humans could understand.
God created it, that's the point. How he created it is the stuff of flamewar.
Christianity stands on Jesus, arguing details of Creation makes us sound foolish and stupid. We as Christians need to do what Jesus would do (i know that's horribly cliche'). I'm pretty sure that Jesus would not participate in a creation argument nor does he approve of them.
Religious person: Evolution is wrong. Everyone else: We can prove that creationism is stupid just search on Google! Religious Person: but evolution is wrong to because bla bla Everyone else: Well you're a stupid fool for believing that crap bla bla bla...
There, its all there, nothing else has to be said you can go on to a different article now.
This wouldn't be such a big issue if people realized that the Bible was written by people who didn't understand science for people who didn't understand science, therefore its a metaphor, what's important to the creation story is WHO(God) and WHY (he wanted companions). Rather than HOW which for the most part is left to our imagination, if we scientifically prove evolution then great, that doesn't change WHO and WHY (but you can choose to believe that or not).
I agree this issue would also go away if more Christians themselves would realize that faithwise this is a non-issue, that they can believe whatever they want about where we came from but that Loving Thy Neighbor is far far far more important that flamewars over evolution!
That said how is evolution something that matters on a technology site anyway? I get the feeling that these articles are here just to start pointless flamewars over religion. Hey! There's enough fighting over religion in the world without adding it to/.! Enough with these articles already!/rant
then instead of trolling/. why don't you go develop a new one for them?
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Geez, "my language is better than your language" trolls are bad enough in normal Perl articles but this is going to get read by the creator of Perl itself.
As for Ruby Jobs, I've been recently unemployed looking for a new job, in all my searches I've found Ruby mentioned maybe once. The biggies? C, Java, Perl. There aren't even all that many people looking for PHP.
Comparing a collection of documents that have been around between 2000 and 4000 years is simply wrong.
You know even if you don't believe in God or Christianity or Judism you could learn a few things from the Bible, such as respect for other people's beliefs.
Anybody who takes the 'whack' comment seriously is an idiot, and probably believes that penguins really can charge at you in excess of 100 miles per hour.
Have you ever seen a legal document? How they define everything so very very carefully and add lots of redundancy is put in? Why are they like that? Because Lawyers will exploit any loophole they can to win a case, it's what they get paid the big bucks to do.
So in this case, even though we all know Linus is joking it could be used against him... just think about it from the court's point of view:
Lawyer: Mr. Torvalds did you on xxx date say 'you would hire a hitman against anyone who would sue you over patents'
Linus: I didn't mean it.
Lawyer: Just answer the question, yes or no.
Linux: Yes.
Lawyer: As the court can clearly see Mr. Torvalds has so little respect for the laws of this country that he would even have those opposing him killed...
Its ridiculous yes but it could happen... I agree with Bruce on this one.
Ugh PHP. I took the plunge and decided to learn it because my webserver doesn't have enough power to run mod_perl (and a bunch of other vhosts) but my site has too much traffic for CGI to cut it anymore.
My observation about PHP: some things are over done and other things are completely underdone. Nothing feels completely right. I spent hours pulling out my hair the other day just trying to find an extension that can parse HTML decently (mostly what I found were people's half-baked regex solutions... yeah someone's going to break that in a hurry). And Regex in PHP? its a nightmare, two different types, neither near as powerful as Perl, and wadda-ya mean I have to use a function to use a regex???.. and why are function names in general ten_freaking_miles_long()!?/rant
Anyway seriously Perl 6 looks really awesome and you won't have to port stuff that works because it has a Perl 5 compatability mode. If you're going to learn a new language anyway why not learn Perl 6?
And who leaves their machine on 24x7 anyway - i doubt all of those mac-usin' graphic designers do. They're all the artsy, crunchy,lets' -preserve-our-electricity types.
Well I for one do, of course I use Linux, maybe that's why . . . actually in all seriousness the designers that I work with leave their Macs on all the time and they get pissed when they crash (still running OS 9).
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And what are we seeking to prove? That there's no God or something?
/. that typically seems to be the case. Of course I still haven't heard a decent answer on exactly how existance of life on other planets disproves God . . .
With these articles on
The fact that PBS is sinking to the level of regular TV and airing 'Yet-Another-Reality-Series' or that it will probably work.
Are the scientists going to get voted off? Will they make alliances with each other and scheme to get the other scientists? Will they have to cook rats over their Bunson Burners?
Questions, questions.
And do you think it would be any different if Gore were in charge? Come on! It's hard to blame Republicans when the Dems also voted for the Patriot Act and the Dems are going to reach a resolution (backed by Bush) on Iraq.
The things that you cite that are taking away admendments, the Patriot Act, the War on Terror and the War on Drugs are all very much bi-partesen issues. Complain about elected officials who voted for this because things wouldn't be much different if Bush wasn't in charge and the Dems had the Whitehouse. They all want power, and none of them probably care that much about you. The "current administration" is going to go away in 2 - 6 years. I doubt that will change much.
not a troll, just my cynical $0.02
Why is it that no one understands that there is no way that an invalidation of the GPL would allow anyone to steal any code?
They could if its ruled that you can't give code away and keep a copyright. It's a very gray issue and I admit I don't understand all that much about it but it seems possible that a court could just as easily rule that GPL software is now in the public domain.
I under stand his point I just think that name changing is confusing rather than helping the issue. And if someone doesn't understand what 'GNU' means in the first place it isn't going to stop them from trying to use NDAs etc.
:) its a joke. Check it out it's actually quite funny (not that I'm biased or anything)
And [OT] The sig is a link to a webcomic that I do with a friend of mine called Naked:People in Car Chases. There are no naked people I promise
Normally I agree with what you say Bruce but in this case no.
No one knows (i.e. the general public or pointy haired bosses) what 'GNU' means anyway and I think its just going to become more of problem as people get confused thinking it's another distro or something.
The solution in this case is to stop this stupid holy war. We have the DMCA, Palladium, and Microsoft to worry about, we don't need to fight amongst ourselves about a name and we need to ignore the select few that are trying to take credit for Linux at the expense of the thousands of people who work on it.
NDAs won't happen as long as the GPL stands up in court. If it doesn't then saying GNU a million times before you say Linux isn't going to stop companies from taking the code.
I did this too except in HS we used rubber bands to make sling shots with the Technic pieces. It was all fun and games until we actually broke a couple of the longer pieces in two. Too much tension. :)
At least where I live, lots of local companies provide high-speed service, the problem is that they have to buy access on someone else's network and pay the phone company for the equipment at the local office. So in the end you're really dealing with 3 companies and it costs more.
However the service is better normally the ISP deals with the other companies when there are problems. And you just have to talk to them.
At the moment it isn't because there isn't much practical use for it, i.e., insuffient compelling content.
/. isn't compelling content!???
You mean
At the extreme you have folks who want to eliminate all traces of sex and violence from the popular media against the movie industry who wants to eliminate all property rights of the consumer
If you take anything to an extreme then you get all sorts of bizarre scenaros. For instance I had someone tell me recently that the War on Drugs was a good thing because if we legalize them taking legal drugs to the extreme then we would have anarchy. (oh brother).
Same here. No one said that they are taking all of the sex and violence out of current movies, however some people will pay money for movies that have it removed. What I can't decide between is rights of the consumer vs. artistic lisence of the directors. Personally I don't believe the directors are out to steal rights or make money in this case, if it was about money then they would release a 'mild' version of movies because its been shown that people will pay for it. I think to them it's like if you bought a famous painting such as 'The Birth of Venus' and then put clothes on Venus! They are just using copyright to protect their work.
So yes it is a tough question, but the question isn't between personal choice and morals its between personal choice and artists.
Who needs foreign travel when we can always visit Texas? To view anything more primitive, colorful or barbaric than what we can find in Texas you'd have to find the last tribe of canibals in the last acre of rain forest
Have you ever been to Texas? How about some examples before you simply paint Texans as all the same? Funny that sounds a lot like the profiling you're complaining about, hypocrite.
The MSNBC article goes on and on about how this is great for 'Smart Cards' but in reality it doesn't make them that much more secure that credit cards because most of the theft that happens with credit cards is not breaking into computers, rather it's physical theft of the cards themselves.
/. before? It seems vaguely familiar.
A 'smart card' isn't going to stop a pick pocket from theiving your wallet so we're back to square one.
And not to be troll but has this been on
Just post the link to your website on /., if it doesn't crash from the load then it's probably pretty good. Hey maybe Taco should look into this! He could start offering it as a service :)
As a hardcore windows developer . . .
/.? :)
Can you actually say that on
To use it you have to patch your QT, GTK and Mozilla. I'm not a very good programmer but why couldn't the API be the same so these apps would 'just work'? Maybe I just don't understand how it works.
All I know is that two big barriers to the desktop are fonts and printing. So I'm glad that things are being developed to make it easier.
On one hand its free and should provide useful information to keep our networks and computers secure. On the other hand it's run by the government which of course we all know is bad ... choices choices :)
:) )
(right now some slashbot's head is exploding!
Thank you for your comment, I'm a Christian too and my point is that people who claim to be Christian shouldn't start pointless arguments over what can be interpreted as a metaphor.
So if God is concise, and only says what He wants us to know, then why do we have the account of creation, if it's a non-issue of how the universe got here?
Exactly my point!!! He tells us what he wants us to know. The Creation story really doesn't say much how other than 'God did it', 'God spoke and there was light'. It doesn't go into fine detail and science of the whole thing, it's there to point out that God being all powerful created the world and us. I don't dispute that, but for all we know God spoke "Let there be light" and then the big bang happened creating stars and galaxies and such and thus creating: light.
By that interpretation the whole theory of evolution would fit inside the creation story. And if you get hung up on the 7 days thing, Jesus himself later says "A day is but a 1000 years to God" (sorry I couldn't find the ref) saying that God is not bound by time, which leads me to believe that the 7 days is a metaphor to put the vast amount of time for creation into terms (especially ancient) humans could understand.
God created it, that's the point. How he created it is the stuff of flamewar.
Christianity stands on Jesus, arguing details of Creation makes us sound foolish and stupid. We as Christians need to do what Jesus would do (i know that's horribly cliche'). I'm pretty sure that Jesus would not participate in a creation argument nor does he approve of them.
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/.! Enough with these articles already! /rant
Religious person: Evolution is wrong.
Everyone else: We can prove that creationism is stupid just search on Google!
Religious Person: but evolution is wrong to because bla bla
Everyone else: Well you're a stupid fool for believing that crap bla bla bla
There, its all there, nothing else has to be said you can go on to a different article now.
This wouldn't be such a big issue if people realized that the Bible was written by people who didn't understand science for people who didn't understand science, therefore its a metaphor, what's important to the creation story is WHO(God) and WHY (he wanted companions). Rather than HOW which for the most part is left to our imagination, if we scientifically prove evolution then great, that doesn't change WHO and WHY (but you can choose to believe that or not).
I agree this issue would also go away if more Christians themselves would realize that faithwise this is a non-issue, that they can believe whatever they want about where we came from but that Loving Thy Neighbor is far far far more important that flamewars over evolution!
That said how is evolution something that matters on a technology site anyway? I get the feeling that these articles are here just to start pointless flamewars over religion. Hey! There's enough fighting over religion in the world without adding it to
then instead of trolling /. why don't you go develop a new one for them?
Geez, "my language is better than your language" trolls are bad enough in normal Perl articles but this is going to get read by the creator of Perl itself.
As for Ruby Jobs, I've been recently unemployed looking for a new job, in all my searches I've found Ruby mentioned maybe once. The biggies? C, Java, Perl. There aren't even all that many people looking for PHP.
Good grief what a troll!
Comparing a collection of documents that have been around between 2000 and 4000 years is simply wrong.
You know even if you don't believe in God or Christianity or Judism you could learn a few things from the Bible, such as respect for other people's beliefs.
Anybody who takes the 'whack' comment seriously is an idiot, and probably believes that penguins really can charge at you in excess of 100 miles per hour.
... just think about it from the court's point of view:
...
Have you ever seen a legal document? How they define everything so very very carefully and add lots of redundancy is put in? Why are they like that? Because Lawyers will exploit any loophole they can to win a case, it's what they get paid the big bucks to do.
So in this case, even though we all know Linus is joking it could be used against him
Lawyer: Mr. Torvalds did you on xxx date say 'you would hire a hitman against anyone who would sue you over patents'
Linus: I didn't mean it.
Lawyer: Just answer the question, yes or no.
Linux: Yes.
Lawyer: As the court can clearly see Mr. Torvalds has so little respect for the laws of this country that he would even have those opposing him killed
Its ridiculous yes but it could happen... I agree with Bruce on this one.
Yeah I've seen that one ... more annoying (somewhat offtopic) is that huge ad I keep seeing at the top of pages for that new Al Pacino "SIMI0N" movie.
Hey we hate the MPAA go see this movie!
Ugh PHP. I took the plunge and decided to learn it because my webserver doesn't have enough power to run mod_perl (and a bunch of other vhosts) but my site has too much traffic for CGI to cut it anymore.
... yeah someone's going to break that in a hurry). And Regex in PHP? its a nightmare, two different types, neither near as powerful as Perl, and wadda-ya mean I have to use a function to use a regex???.. and why are function names in general ten_freaking_miles_long()!? /rant
My observation about PHP: some things are over done and other things are completely underdone. Nothing feels completely right. I spent hours pulling out my hair the other day just trying to find an extension that can parse HTML decently (mostly what I found were people's half-baked regex solutions
Anyway seriously Perl 6 looks really awesome and you won't have to port stuff that works because it has a Perl 5 compatability mode. If you're going to learn a new language anyway why not learn Perl 6?
And who leaves their machine on 24x7 anyway - i doubt all of those mac-usin' graphic designers do. They're all the artsy, crunchy,lets' -preserve-our-electricity types.
Well I for one do, of course I use Linux, maybe that's why . . . actually in all seriousness the designers that I work with leave their Macs on all the time and they get pissed when they crash (still running OS 9).