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Mozilla 1.1 Hits The Street
asa writes: "Mozilla 1.1 has arrived!. This release has many new features including full-screen mode for Linux, Mac MathML support, a redesigned JavaScript Debugger, new window icons for the different Mozilla applications, view selection source, display HTML mail as plaintext, and much more. Along with all the new features, Mozilla 1.1 also contains many improvements to performance, stability, standards support, and web site compatibility. You can get Mozilla 1.1 by visiting the mozilla.org releases page or directly from ftp at ftp.mozilla.org. Now that 1.1 is out the door, the focus moves to 1.2 alpha, and beyond. If you're confused as to how all of these releases relate to each other, be sure to check out the Mozilla Roadmap and the community hub over at mozillaZine.org."
IE bits the dust!
aka support. Boo! Hiss!
I hope they fixed Java though. I still can't get Java reliably on Mozilla on all sites. It's either SecurityException, or Java hangs, or weird behaviour with text fields. When will it work properly?
ok, begin the 'i like opera' posts. But seriously, I love mozila, great browser, GREAT work guys! Thanks!
goatzilla :)
Monolinux, back from the grave, has scooped Slashdot yet again.
You can't beat monolinux, Taco and Co., you can only hope to contain us!
seems to boot a *lil* bit faster (w2k version) (still too slow though). hopefully the osx one will too ...
> To see the OSS browsers like Opera
Opera isn't open source at all.
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I love Mozilla, the browser and email client are awesome and so much better than anything else. But before it even finished starting it gave me to error messages about some DLL. Then enigmail is complaining at me too. And why are 2 mozilla shortcuts added to my desktop? A cool new feature: view selection source. You can select some text and view the source just for that piece of the page. And tabbed browsing still rocks. Control-click a link or after typing a URL in the location field to open it quickly in a new tab, or hit control-T to pop a new blank tab. I just wish you could control click on the links in your toolbar.
before you could apply themes without rebooting, but that 'feature' has been taken away, why aren't there many themes either? can't be that hard?
Analytic & algebraic topology of locally Euclidean meterization of infinitely differentiable Riemmanian manifold
Check out the radial context menus or the mouse gestures. Look at edit->preferences->navigator->internet search, and edit->preferences->advanced->Scripts&Plugin s. And finally take a look at the preferences bar to quickly enable or disable certain options. These are always the first things I install with any new Mozilla, release or nightly.
karma capped
Having downloaded Moz 1.1 the difference is not so great, as expected. Some minor bugs have vanished, like the frequent paralyzation of the http-input field.
In general, there is nothing IE can do for me that Moz can't. And Moz is just... a smoother ride. Plus it's got good karma. Recommended.
What became of the PWP's?
I have been away from Slashdot and I miss them.
:o(
Fuck Slashdot form keys!
Actually, it is... they coded it in machine language. That's why it's so fucking fast.
I use Mozilla as my main browser and like it a lot, but this version seems quite buggy, at least on Windows XP. Better stick to 1.0 for now.
Ugg this makes me so mad, everytime mozilla releases a new version the dont release the src until 72 hours later, its so annoying. I use gentoo and I like to just modify the old ebuild to download the new src, but if its not avalible I cant install it!
Gezz! Come on mozilla! I dont want the binaries I want the src!
But I cant wait!
keanmarine.com
it took them forever to reach 1.0 (although the 0.9 releases were already really good), but now they're releasing a 1.1 after only a short time, and also working on a 1.2 Yeay Mozilla!
:)
If not "Release early", "Release often!"
What time is it/will be over there? Check with my iPhone app!
:-)
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..but the source tarball? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
We wave the flag of freedom as we conquer and invade.
It is great, that Mozilla progresses and that Slashdot supports the work by directing traffic to their site. But I really hope that /. could give other and new browser projects coverage as well. Many of them have innovative ideas, and potential, and probably would not mind a few more volunteer developers. Slashdot is in great position to give these too the needed momentum. Why don't you release an article about one of them today already?
Thought you guys would like this:-) http://linux.darylstimm.com/mozilla1280.jpg
keanmarine.com
1.1 is still a very immature version, compared to the Internet Explorer family of technologies, which is currently in version 6.x and still being improved daily.
When will Mozilla feature speedier web browsing, and better integration with best-of-breed Microsoft products such as MSN messenger and Outlook XP?
A theme that more closely matches the award winning Windows look-and-feel would also be helpful.
Will installing this break Galeon?
"Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds
For the ultimate in pointlessness... get Mozilla to build in Emacs... then you can say you're running two OS's at the same time without VMWare or anyting similar.
Klerck's just mad because he can't widen Mozilla pages.
Here's the feature I want most: The ability to specify a list of url patterns to never ever under any circumstances visit, such as http://www.doubleclick.net/*, or http://www.foo.com/ads/*, etc. Why can't we have a feature like that? I'm aware of proxies like junkbusters but they break some pages. This should be integrated into the browser to work right.
Damn, Mozilla 1.1 is out since yesterday, and there are *still* no packages in Debian/unstable. ...Want...Mozilla....Now...! :-)
:-(
If I install a tar.gz now, I'll break my fine packaging system.
"The connection was refused when attepting to contact " How do you stop this window coming up? I've got the a certain in my /etc/hosts file..
Can I "update" Mozilla 1 to 1.1 w/o the obligatory uninstallation of v1 then installation of v1.1...
:)
then follow with the time consuming preference settings?
Also, anyone knows how to increase the time out for image downloading in mozilla?
These must be FAQs but they are not answered yet...
Any pointer is appreciated
Eeep! this is not good news. I am using Mozilla 1.0 on WinXP. On a couple of occasions it has crashed, so I resorted to IE6, which worked just fine.
I was hoping that the 'Improved stability' (What's New in Mozilla 1.1) would have improved this. Anyone else have a perspective on this?
My Karma: ran over your Dogma
StrawberryFrog
If your really cool, you'll download Mozilla through Gnutella using Shareaza.
3 DB SJ&dn=mozilla-win32-1.1-installer.exe&xs=http%3A// 12.240.86.81%3A6346/uri-res/N2R%3Furn%3Asha1%3AM3U DEZTSE2UK7C6BC2EYF5VFN6N3DBSJ&xs=http://ftp.mozill a.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.1/mozilla-win3 2-1.1-installer.exe&xs=http://archive.progeny.com/ mozilla/releases/mozilla1.1/mozilla-win32-1.1-inst aller.exe&xs=http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/packages/i nfosystems/WWW/clients/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.1 /mozilla-win32-1.1-installer.exe
I've included four sources in this MAGNET URI link, so when you click it you can download a chunk of the file off each of them! I even added myself as a source. And if everyone shares, we can all download the file of peers instead of the servers!
magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:M3UDEZTSE2UK7C6BC2EYF5VFN6N
Copy and Paste it in Shareaza under "Tools -> Download URL".
Oh the Power of Gnutella!
Okay, cool. The bug in the side bar has been removed. :) Whenever you open the google sidebar, it won't open find.com (which redirects to apps5.oingo.com) any more.
Now I just wish Macromedia would release a FlashMX player for Linux.
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Mozilla has proved that just putting out the source is not enough. It has to be simple enough for other programmers to pick up. Sadly, that is why linux has so many programmers---because it's so simple-minded and toyish. We need to stop the hype and refocus on advancing the state of the art, not reimplementing what's already in BSD. Switch to BSD today!
To be very honest....Opera is fast but fast only by "other than IE" standards. Between Opera and IE, it's a tie on my system. But I use IE even though Opera gives more features.
Nice work with the Twin Towers petition. That one is currently doing the rounds via. office email...
I wish I had a mod point for you.
Best tip I've read all day.
Hmmm, XEmacs ported to XUL....the posibility is frightening! W3c in XEmacs on Mozilla, anyone?
I must say, as a daily browser mozilla is unusable.
I have a celeron 600mhz 320 mb ram, mozilla is slow, dead slow.
Im not talking html rendering here, its fast. But rather everything else but the rendering.
Gods own browser.
I sure wish this was the case. So far I've switched Sales Dept, Technical Services, and another dept. over to Open Office. Great so far. However, a few insist on using Outlook Express. So the problem is they can't spell. So we have to buy a $15 spelling thing plugin for OE.
What really sucks is I have to install Netscape 6.2.3 instead of Mozilla on many peoples computer. Why? Only one stupid reason. No spelling for Mozilla.
Before you say go download the free plugin. Been there done that. It crashes constantly and I tried it on 3 or 4 computers. Sorry but can't install freakin Mozilla for just that reason alone at my corporation. Wish I could...I really do. When is mozilla going to properly disply cdrinfom.com ?
Well, exactly 24 hours ago I upgraded to 1.1beta because bugzilla claimed it fixed a problem I was having with IFRAME. Now 1.1 is out, and I downloaded it while I was writing this comment. At this rate you should save your bandwidth, and look for 1.2b tommorow night!
Also I predict a low chance of rain tommorow, since I did not wash my car. I will keep you posted.
yeah but galeon is basically nothing else than a frontend to mozilla.
respect to the galeon developers but glueing something infront to mozilla may make it look better but it is definately not the way to go.
Try clicking "Get the Source" on the left side of the main Mozilla page, or follow this link.
I love mozilla first off (and its offspring), but at what point are the developers going stop adding new crap and just focus on fixing bug's?
What I'd love to see them do is take a few months off mozilla 1.x etc. and fix the bugs in the trunk, and releasing mozilla 1.0.x and/or 1.1.x builds as the bugs get fixed. then restarting the project with 1.x builds or something like this.
You know you got to rethink things when mozilla is using 200MB's of ram!
I just want to know what program they used to generate that funky milestone graph. Anyone know?
I use to have a funny sig, but slash cut it off, and I forgot what the punchline was.
Uh... The link in the parent post is to the Mozilla 1.0 source. Apparently, the current source is only available by CVS.
Though it looked like a chameleon to me.
Now, what made that post "+1: Informative"?
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
I've heard of it, been meaning to give it a try sometime.
Mozilla has been slower than MSIE, don't kid yourself, but 1.1 is substantially faster than 1.0, I think they've finally caught up. This is cause to celebrate.
Good golly those application icons are ugly... can't they use the graphics from mozilla.org??
Did I mention it's faster?
Still annoying: when tabbed browsing is enabled, links to open new windows still open new windows (instead of new tabs). Damnit, I'm not going to control-click every link I suspect of opening a new window, this is silly.
Wouldn't it be cool in the download manager were a tabbed webpage?
No, seriously, it's fast on Windows, about as fast as MSIE. I can't wait to try the K-Meleon and Chimarae packages when they catch up to this version.
// I will show you fear in a handful of jellybeans.
Dual processor "server"? Well, as a single-processor end-user with an aged machine, I can say that the resason I moved from IE to Mozilla is that it is IE that is sluggish and clunky. Mozilla smokes the pants off it.
Dual processor server? WTF? Mozilla runs great on my Athlon XP 2000+, and when I had a celeron 333 it ran just fine on that too.
You meant 'why it is fucked so fast'? Most site don't work
with Opera!
I was running Mozilla on a P400, 128M, and it started and presented my home page faster than IE6. It displayed all pages faster than IE. Now I run it on a nice new P4-2GHz, 256M, and it's loads faster than IE. So what the hell are you complaining about? Oh, are you using Lynx on Linux? I should have guessed. Well, surprise! Some applications require more computing power than a 286! Get used to it.
Really? I think you're full of shit.
Presumably [in a Internet Cafe] in Downtown Tokyo?
If you would like to help make Mozilla truely IE compatible, please contact us to make it happen!!!
Those of you who use the tabbed browsing feature in Mozilla (read: almost everyone!) may notice a change in "features" between Mozilla 1.0 and 1.1.
1 (copy and paste this into a new window, bugzilla doesn't allow links from Slashdot.)
When you have only one tab open, and you instinctively middle-click or Ctrl-W or whatever, your tab bar will disappear - even if you told Mozilla not to hide the tab bar when you only had one window open, with the preferences option.
This behaviour can be considered a feature or a bug - instead of the Close Tab button doing nothing or being disabled when there's one tab, the button now hides the bar. I told Mozilla never to do that! I want the tab bar there at all times!
The bug is at http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15919
Also, why do tabs now have to close left to right, prey tell? I open Slashdot in my first tab, read everything I want, and read the first page that loads (normally the first tab) and work my way through articles. With this setup, you will just get sent back to Tab 1 every time.
The size of the binary has jumped by a full megabyte from 1.0 to 1.1. I understand lots of new functionality has been added, but i hope there are also efforts to maintain(decrease?) the size of binary. There are still dialup users in some places :(
I would love to see a browser-only Mozilla variant weighing around 3-4 MB (Opera-sized).(I understand there is the Net-installer stuff, but it still takes upto 7MB)
While we're on the subject, the Mozilla start page at http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/ today was telling me to download Mozilla 1.01RC2. I see the value in maintaining "stable" and "unstable" releases, but surely 1.1 should have remained a beta if that was the intention?
Why doesn't Mozilla.org publicise the 1.01 release candidates anywhere?
faggit (Score:-1, Flamebait)
God, I love this place.
The start page for releases like this needs to be http://mozilla.org/start/1.0/
This start page (mozilla.org/start/) is ugly, and is thanking users for being beta testers. Very unprofessional (just as unprofessional as the slash screen).
The splash screen looks like something out of some 12 year old's "l33t" vb app.
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
I have no performance problems with Mozilla. I don't think Mozilla was targeted at the pre-Pentium era. In my opinion, Mozilla has been much better than IE for a very long time. Consider this when you realize Mozilla wasn't even meant to be the ultimate browser, rather than feature the ultimate rendering engine.
mozilla.org is one of the most often updated open source project, the programmers even made daily build to iron out the bugs and improve features/performance. Still something puzzled me since after 1.0 release.
mozilla.org 1.0 is very stable, and relatively bug free. Since then there are 1.1 alpha, 1.1 beta, and now 1.1 release. Usually one will suppose features that work doesn't break in later version. In my experience, however, this is not true.
a) In 1.1 beta, I find that I can't export my bookmark - exporting bookmark will save nothing. I report this to bugzilla, and they have replied of a fix within couple hours. Strangely, this function _works_ in 1.0 release.
b) All through the 1.1 branch (including 1.1 release), I found that there are some webpage rendering with garbage shown up, check out this website: http://www.bluesnews.com/ , scroll down the page and you can see garbage somewhere. However again this bug does _not_ exist in 1.0 release. Again I reported this to bugzilla and they have the record this bug is filed back when 2002 March (before 1.0 release on June), so I wonder, did someone fix it in 1.0 release but others managed to break it in 1.1, or 1.1 is simply not based on 1.0... or some magic is not working here?
c) I caught it from another user posting at mozillazine.org, check out this page
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/
"With Moz 1.1 the background (the astronaut) doesnt scoll properly. It did with Mozilla 1.0."
I understand though mozilla.org is a huge and ambitious project, but these phenomena concerned me. Perhaps it happened a lot with other open source projects, anyway I hope they can get it fixed eventually.
Jesus christ, that annoying bug in the OSX version where you have to wait 5-10 seconds for your typing in the url-bar to catch up with you is STILL there. This was IN bugzilla, EVERYONE was reporting it, and it's STILL THERE. I think they were just intent on getting a 1.1 out the door so they wouldn't look like it took as long as it did to get 1.0 out.
Trademark violation bug From the bug description: The user agent string reported by the browser includes "Gecko" - doesn't additional term I.III. of the Netscape Public License prevent this usage?
IE doesn't come even remotely close to Opera's speed, not on my current system (XP1800+), and not on my previous system (Duron 850). The rendering speed is about the same, but try switching through different windows: Opera switches instantly, while IE has a noticable delay. That's where Opera's true strength is, and only with this feature multi-window surfing is truly feasible for me.
Switch back to Slashdot's D1 system.
That prefs bar is hot sex on a stick. Cheers for the link.
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Big Bubbles (no troubles) - what sucks, who sucks and you suck
Damn that was a fast download for me. I had the
;)
install file in less than 2 minutes.
All seems well on this end, so far. Hopefully this build will be as stable as 1.0
Peace
Galeon 2 is under development but it's still not there. Come on, I really need a great browser for gnome2 :)
http://galeon.sourceforge.net/galeon2/
i wish they:
- clean up their dir hierarchy
- get rid of that crappy shell script launcher
- improve the openning of urls from cli (to use
-remote an instance of moz must be running)
- use a ~/.mozilla/addons for things like mouse
gestures, for now u have to launch moz as root &
install the extra app
Let's not forget it's THAT time again...
Damn it, get your hand off your dick and listen for a second! To all you near-trolls and trollannabes, here's the deal... Troll Tuesday is a sacred day where the trolls of Slashdot unite to troll more than usual. Why? How the fuck should I know, but it's become a tradition like circumcision, so let's grab some dicks and cut off the foreskin, even though no one is Jewish anymore! Happy Troll Tuesday, August 27, 2002!
The splash screen looks like something out of some 12 year old's "l33t" vb app.
you can always change the splash screen yourself. very easy
just make a file called mozilla.bmp, in your mozilla folder, with your own splashscreen or just download
some the ones you can find on the net.
google search mozilla splashscreen
Your post sounds it was copied and pasted from 1999. Mozilla is fast and has been for some time. I haven't even seen a performance complaint for ages, not even in the mainstream press.
that's absolutely untrue, 1.x runs beautifully on my Mac OS X machine, and especially under Windows since it's loaded into memory ahead of time like how IE's done it.
And when i say it runs beautifully, i'm talking about on a 450mhz PowerPC G4 w/ 384mb of RAM, and a 800mhz AMD w/ 128mb of RAM.
The Adult Happy Meal - "I'm lovin' it!"
I thought it'd be out before Mozilla hit 1.1.
I'm looking for a feature (that others have requested too) that will allow me to dynamically enable/disable a plugin (Hint: Flash ads, or stupid Java tickers). I know I can just muck around with the plugins directory, but that is more of a permanent change. It would be nice to have a dropdown menu about all of the plugins installed, and enable/disable them like that; or you could bind some hot keys to enable/disable specific plugins.
Replace they don't open right->left, do they? So, why do they close right->left? with they don't open left->right, do they? So, why do they close left->right? and that post might make some more sense. I'm too tired to figure out if it does, though. I can barely figure out which is up and which is down, at the moment...
I don't get this. I thought 1.0 meant an API freeze for Mozilla. Even if new features were added, the old ones should stay the way they are. Someone enlighten me?
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If you moderate this, then your children will be next.
I can say that the resason I moved from IE to Mozilla is that it is IE that is sluggish and clunky. Mozilla smokes the pants off it.
My IE 6.0.2600 runs faster than any other browser I've tried under windows 2000.
You're so full of shit.
Any ideas? Help!
It's very sad to notice that XML tag matching problem, due to an error when converting tags to uppercase, is still there.
I wish I had knowledgement to fix this.
It's really sad to know that any version of Mozilla cannot be used to edit XML, such a feature should be considered very important, but this bug exists since 0.8.x version (I don't remember exactly which)
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I know life isn't fair, but why can't it ever be un-fair in MY favor!?
For those who would like to switch to Mozilla but feel a bit uncomfortable by it's appearance I'd suggest you try out few of my pointers to get MSIE look & feel for Mozilla.
:) Power of OSS!
The instructions shown on the page barely scratch the surface on how much Mozilla can be tweaked for your needs, no other browser comes close. For example if you'd like to use different keyboard shortcuts in MSIE - yeah good luck with that, but in Mozilla little fiddling with XUL and voila
Mozilla with MSIE skin & keyboard shortcuts - ultimate BOFH tool for getting some new users to our beloved browser.
I installed Mozilla 1.1 alongside 1.0. I do like the browser (for the few seconds I've used it), but the mail client caused me to go back to 1.0: I access my email trough IMAP on a Lotus Notes server, and my mail folders (except for Inbox) were totally messed up, and I couldn't access anything. If someone's got an idea what's happening...
How do I change the various keyboard-shortcuts?
Comming from [browser], it'd be easier to set up the keyboard shortcuts you're used to, than having to get used to a new set.
We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
If you don't like the splash screen, please draw your own and submit it to Bugzilla. As early as 2008, it will be considered for insertion into the next nightly build and possibly version 1.5.80-pre2-alpha8.
Cool funny t-shirts for geeks, gamers and everyone else
Are we going to have an announcement for every point release of Mozilla? Yes, they've done great things, and I install the latest nightly build almost once a week, but there are still a dozen bugs reported every day. 1.0 was "the thing to reach." Now that Mozilla has matured so much, its time to move on to a new topic.
well, it's a technology test and so it doesn't have to look professional. If you want a nice looking splash screen wait for Netscape7. Having said that, you can download another splash screen for mozilla here. Some are very nice, although mozilla sits in turbo mode enough for me not to worry about the splash screen as I never see it.
Please, please, please can I have the ability to rearrange the bookmarks live as in IE, rather than going to the bookmark editor every time.
And install spellchecker and calendar.
l
http://spellchecker.mozdev.org/installation.htm
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
Works for me....
that was a nice surprise. But full screen (linux) doesn't work so good when you are using Gnome and have a panel at the top.
Would be nice if they added full screen on/off as a right-click option over the window.
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Instead of downloading the whole 11 Mb .. I know its not that much .. but ask this to a 56Kb user
One day your head will be your box, your brain will be your client, and all energetic problems will be solved...
I'm not sure if this is a jedi mind trick, but Mozilla 1.1 "feels" _much_ better and smoother. It's up there with more "lickable" :)
http://pcblues.com - Digits and Wood
However, once I realized that Ctrl-PgUp and Ctrl-PgDn can be used to change tabs, I also could see that this is superior to the Opera way. This is because now that I think of it, Ctrl-Tab was frustrating to use in Opera, because I could no longer use Ctrl-Tab to switch focus between the address bar and frames, as IE had trained me to do. Never did figure out what Opera equivalent focus change was.
The Mozilla way of handling these keystrokes gives us the best possible scenario.
Read my sig if you like, but I'll never see yours, thanks to Discussions, Viewing, Disable sigs...
Edit, Preferences, change Cache settings to "Every time I view the page" and instant lockup.
The only amusing thing is that XP prompts you to send the error report to MS
Live web cams
nevermind...
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I *LIKE* Mozilla and I use it as my preferred browser but novice users are only confused by the whole profile notion and it is clearly not pleasant for (some) verterans too.
* I was going to put a link to the bug in my post but when I tested the link I get "Sorry, links to Bugzilla from Slashdot are disabled." Sounds like a preemptive strike to me.
This is a big gripe of mine about Mozilla too. Sometimes I have to click and swipe 3 o 4 times before I finally select the text in the address bar. I do this a lot when I copy and paste links into there or when I want to change the URL a tad.
"For a successful technology, honesty must take precedence over public relations for nature cannot be fooled." -Feynman
They added marquee and blink support :(
Morphing Software
If anyone else is having the problems I'm having downloading from the main site, you might want to try the following mirror, which is running much faster:
i ll a1.1/
http://archive.progeny.com/mozilla/releases/moz
That is what happens when you get programmers designing a UI instead of marketers (a la Microsoft).
I haven't read anywhere that support was added for MS proxies. Am I mistaken?
What's a second? An hour? A day?
It has much more to do with
the Earth's rotation than with cesium.
Whatever happened to newsgroup filters and the ignore/watch functions? I still have to hold onto Netscape 4.7 because of this (and yes, I've tried all the other Windows readers).
If you're in any way worried about loading speed, turn on the 'Quicklaunch' feature under the advanced options area in your preferences.
This loads Moz into memory on OS bootup, the same way that Windows loads IE components. It shortens apparent application startup time significantly.
Me, I don't worry about it, since you spend the time loading the app into memory either way, but have the option of unloading it to reclaim an extra 20 mb or so when you need to do something like open a large graphics file.
The next Slashdot story will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and slashdot the links early!
I find it somewhat amusing that VersionTracker.com (the Mac OS X section, at least) had the announcement a good few hours before /. did... :D
I'm pretty happy with Mozilla 1.0; is there any reason I should bother putting 1.1, besides helping out in the never-ending search for bugs? I don't believe the only bug that annoys me has been fixed yet, anyone have any other compelling reason to upgrade?
What?
It is the smallest and, I think, fastest of the Moz skins.
OK.
So I downloaded the thing. opened a Composer window, got the HTML out of it and pasted it here...
I hope you like it...
Reading slashdot moz article, moves mouse, crash. Restart, gets to splash, crash, again...crash, again...crash...ok 3 times a charm, back to 1.0 (win2k). Nuts...maybe tomorrow.
only infrmatn esentil to understandn mst b tranmitd
mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.1.tar.gz can be had from giFT/OpenFT. Hash 41f7588955a35a0bafa63426eae04dc8.
"Oppression and harassment is a small price to pay to live in the land of the free." -- Montgomery Burns.
It uses some sort of Ordered List tag trick. Here's an example.
Some good ones can be found here.
--- if y cn rd ths y cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgmmng!
Use freenet
My experience: Mozilla 1.0.1 cured the spell check crashes. That was the latest version until the release of 1.1.
does the javascript engine still leak memory like a seive? thats one of my biggest complaints about 1.0.
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte
recently after I installed Mac OS 10.2 Mozilla hangs on startup (at the splash screen). I just installed the 1.1 and it's no different. Anyone else had this problem? Or is it just me?
Mozilla was the only browser I would use. The tabbed browsing is great, and the text smoothing in Internet Explorer makes me think I need new glasses.
Even if my browser is not supported by your website, I'd still like to be able to see it. I don't care if not all of your "special features" work! What a way to enforce browser homogeneity.
...ok so it doesnt' solve everything, but I notice alot of pages that are "IE Only" and use CSS also use quotation marks in the CSS code, as in This works just fine in IE but will break many versions of AOL and just about every version of any other browser that supports style sheets and causes page rendering with no styles, which is at best, ugly, at worst, completely useless, possibly invisible or non-functional.
I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet but it would enable more "IE Only" pages to be viewed, at least a little better, in Mozilla. The only problem is standards compliance, as far as I know quotation marks are not part of the standard...perhaps a "More friendly towards 'IE-Only' pages" option in the prefs?
CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?
Get this theme. Very, very smooth and clean. Several amplitudes better than the default theme. It's surprising that Mozilla doesn't come with this supplied as a standard...
You hit that right on the head. However, This story isn't talking about the 1.0 brnahc, but the 1.1 branch. If you want the 1.0 branch with the frozen API, you want to download 1.0.1rc instead. I believe the link is right there on the 1.0 start page.
-BrentI installed the mouse gestures package, expecting it to be like Opera. It should be labelled 'mouse + keystroke gestures'. 'Click + left button + left' = 'back'. Right-clicking for a context menu then selecting 'back' is easier. I thought mouse gestures were intended to make things easier. Having to click a key isn't. There are already keystrokes for many of the common 'mouse gestures'.
creation science book
I'm surprised and apalled that Mozilla cannot automatically upgrade or import prior user configurations without a lot of grief. (I would link to Bugzilla, but links to Bugzilla that come from Slashdot are rejected. Why am I not surprised by that?)
So, what is the best way to manually import prior user configurations?
Will Galeon compile (or, even better, work without a recompile) with this or did they change the API again?
I don't suppose that the Mozilla 1.1 binaries have been compiled with SVG support yet?
I grabbed an SVG-enabled binary for Linux from not too long ago and it crashed pretty quickly.
The SVG DOM specification looks like a really interesting way to introduce more full-featured graphics, including user input, so I was hoping that something like this would become mainstream sooner rather than later.
"Provided by the management for your protection."
I'm shocked to see this piece get modded up. When there's a story about Red Hat, Red Hat people add stuff in (berol?). When HP is up, Perens often joins the discussion. But these are in support of their own companies, not attacking others. They are positively informative, whilst this is negatively trolling. At least the guy (if this isn't a pure troll) admits to being from MS. I wouldn't put this past someone there, but then again this is so egregious that its difficult to believe its not a fake.
Could they make it any harder to find?
I've clicked around forever and still
can't find a simple *.tar.gz form of
the 1.1 source code release.
I installed it twice, and every time I restarted Mozilla, it's not there.
It's not even under View -> Show/hide.
I guess they may have to release an update for it.
Last night just before heading for bed, it occurred to me that I'd not checked to see the latest version of Mozilla in a while. When the website said '1.1', I just assumed I'd been out of touch. Instead, it seems I'd gotten there just before the /. hit. *chortle* Lucky moi.
In Mozzila 1.0 one click and click and swipe work fine for me to select the text in the location bar.
Life's a bitch, then she kills you.
I'm so sick of that little blue gecko. It always reminds me of a fetus, for some reason. Don't have to look at that any more!
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
then instead of trolling /. why don't you go develop a new one for them?
The Anti-Blog
Is it just me or each time I open a folder with lots of mails in it (hundreds) the mozilla mail client rebuilds the summary file. It takes 10 seconds for big folders and it's a bit of a pain. Any slashdotters out there know how to get rid of that... hum "feature"? Thanks.
Everything we do echoes in eternity...
Can someone answer this. In Netscape, When you had too many bookmarks to be displayed on screen, it would make more columns and start displaying them sideways across the screen. In Mozilla, It just makes 1 huge column you have to scroll through. Can this be changed so it makes multiple columns?
to produce a icon for macos 9?
honestly mozilla has different icons for itself for nearly every operating system, but the worst is, that the default macos9 icon doesnt even look like a browser. so how should a newbie know this _is_ a browser and not a text editor.
second worst icon imho is the windows icon ( reminds me of a sperm)
I don't see an automatic character coding detection button any more! In Mozillia 1.0 it will automatically detect the encoding of web pages if you goto View->Character Coding->Auto-Detect->Universal but in 1.1 the Universal option is missing! What a shame...I'm still stuck on 1.0 for now
I have my mozilla shortcuts point to this shellscript. Note that it will only work correctly if there is only one instance of moz running on your machine... shouldn't be too hard to fix, if needed. Change the paths as appropriate.
/proc/[1-9]*/cmdline | head -1`;
/usr/local/mozilla/mozilla -remote "openURL($1,new-window)"
/usr/local/mozilla/mozilla $1
#!/bin/bash
MOZ=`grep -e '^/usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin'
if [ -n "$MOZ" ]
then
else
fi
* And remember, it's spelled N-e-t-s-c-a-p-e, but it's pronounced "Mozilla."
PERFORMANCE
yes performance; forget about more features, forget about bugs hunting, I think these are up to an acceptable level to us now. What we need to focus on is making this baby FASTER. I recommended the browser to a windows user, after a few days I asked him how is it? he said he diched it because it is "way too slower than IE". I had to agree.
I advice the mozilla developers to start working heavily into getting mozilla to load faster and perform faster.
In Mozilla's Windows version 1.0, right-clicking on a link brought up the 'Open in New Tab' item at the top of the popup menu. With version 1.1, this is now the second item in the popup menu. If you liked the old way, have a look at this Google thread.
How ironic :)
-- Note: If you don't agree with me, don't bother replying. I won't read it.
API != ABI
Would need at least a recompile with identical API. Presumably the Galeon guys would rather use the new release to get some other changes in as well which would be why they don't just recompile the existing version.
Carpe Daemon
My only comment is that the face of the gecko is not quite in the plane of focus. I know that, with a really long lens (which can very well be on a medium format camera, which further squashes the plane of focus), the plain of focus is really thin. And, with Autofocus cameras, one can not readily choose what is in focus. However, it would have been better if the face would have been in focus and less of the tail of the gecko was in focus.
Then again, I know that getting the perfect focus is just about impossible in situtations where you need to collapse the depth of field; I hate flashes so have the same problems when taking pictures at night.
- Sam
The secret to enjoying Slashdot is to realize that it should not be taken too seriously.
Who cares if it compares to IE in any way? Is that what you base everything on... how it compares to Windows applications? I mean seriously, Mozilla offers so much more then IE. We are talking about a multi-patform browser here, so what would us Linux users care if it "should" be integrated with M$N and Lookout.
I personally feel stronger towards Mozilla because it hasn't intergrated any of that crap. What would you like it to do, wipe your ass too?
By closely observing Mozilla I/O behavior on Win32 platform, I conclude that Mozilla I/O design needs serious rework. As of now, Mozilla I/O uses enormous amount of handles (>2000) in a typical Win32 setup. I believe this is the major reason why Mozilla is that damn slow on Win32 platform.
Just take the file piemenu.js in mozilla/chrome/radialcontext/content and change this line:The timeout is fixed in 900 by default, you can make it lower.
While you are there you can find a lot of options, just don't be afraid to try.
Fh
Mozilla 1.0 was my default browser. I wanted to upgrade to 1.1 to play with MathML on OSX, along with experiencing the other tasty upgrades.
But I've found that their new anti-alias every font idea is giving me an eye-strain headache! Anyone know how to turn that off? Is there a different font set I can use? I've turned off system font smoothing for anything 12 pt and smaller.
And uninstalling hasn't been possible. I remove some of the stuff from prefs.js, some of it from installed-chrome.txt, some from chrome.rdf, try deleting directories, and any random combination of these either doesn't remove the radial menus, or it keeps mozilla from functioning. I have not yet found the magic combo that actually just removes the radial menus. (I'm having troubles removing the Googlebar too, just in case you're the sort of person who wants to post instructions for me.... :-)
Mozdev has some possibly great features, but I've been bitten by the inability to uninstall things often enough now that I'm gun-shy to try new ones. Mozilla needs a base-level uninstaller that can undo the damage done by any of these random add-ons. Mozilla should be able to keep track of all files added/modified by any of these add-ons, and be able to undo them at the click of a button. Asking the user to edit prefs.js, chrome.rdf, etc., etc., etc. is not end-user acceptable.
John
Is it possible that I can just have moz run on X start up, AND THATS IT? I have a box thats not very heavy that needs to have NYSE.com on at all times but I dont want the overhead of panel, etc. etc. etc. How the hell can I get just moz to run??
The ultimate network admin tool needs HELP!
x-scriptlet still not supported in MOzilla 1.1 And i ve to use an x-scriptlet in my Web page... so now, i'll use IE until next release of Mozilla
I would like to be able to drag a selection box highlighting many links at once, and then be able to ctrl+click links in or out of my selection, as if they were a bunch of icons. Then, they could each open in their own tabs, or maybe even into a single tab meta-page where all the pages are stacked vertically and joined into a single page.
Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.
You may find the User Agent Bar useful - http://uabar.mozdev.org/. It has several presets (Moz, NS7/6, IE6/5, NS4.7 and AOL, all with different versions and OSs) and you can enter your own if you want.
Just have a look at this screenshot:
http://cern.ch/Piotr.Golonka/FUN/MSslashdot.jpg
Information about Mozilla accompanied by M$ dev studio adv.. Is it a joke ?!?
Did anyone else on the mozilla-announce mailing list or netscape.public.mozilla.announce newsgroup not get an announcement?
They announce the 1.1 beta on the list, but not the actual 1.1 release??
i hear that they look good in win xp (os x too?), though, since it/they support high res high color icons. is this true?
When will we have a trimmed/tiny 2meg, pocketpc arm/xscale version?
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
They chanced the little taskbar icons so the Mail and the Browser have different icons. Yay! No more hunting around for 20 minutes for my e-mail window (since I habitually keep about 20-30 windows open on occasion. Guess tabbed browsing hasn't changed my habits yet).
I know this isn't a help forum for mozilla but I was wondering if anyone knew a solution to this. WHen I resize my fonts to slightly bigger 120 zoom, then close the browser... then open another browser.. my font size doesn't save. Back to default... arggg!
Hi:
I'm using FreeBSD and I want get th mozilla source because mozilla.org don't have FreeBSD binaries.
I proved with Mozilla CVS but he tell me user anonymous doesn't exist.
Anyone can tell me what Y must do.
Regards.
It was to feature the *standard* rendering engine.
Any wasted CPU cycles in a reference engine make a lot of people unhappy by making their computers less usable.
May we never see th
I like the fact that the OSS community has banded together enough to make something of the scale of Mozilla
Frankly, I really, really doubt if Mozilla would exist today if Netscape hadn't been such a strong, driving force behind it. They supplied many (if not most) of the engineers to write the code.
The largest "volunteerish" Open Source project I can think of is probably XFree86 or maybe Linux.
Succcess of such a large system requires extreme modularity, so that someone can drop in and write a patch. It's not that easy to just drop into the Moz source.
I get the feel that, while people *could* volunteer to write stuff for Moz, Moz was more of a Netscape project that happened to be very open to the public.
May we never see th
Mozilla lacks something very important: It doesn't work smoothly with KMail which is my mail program of choice right now.
Mozilla really needs to integrate well with other applications. Most importantly, it really needs a way to launch an application when users click on a mailto-link. This is bug 11459.
Also quite important is that you can launch Mozilla and have it open a new tab (not window) from other applications. This is Bug 104204.
I would encourage everybody to join in to get this working! :-)
Employee of Inrupt, Project Release Manager and Community Manager for Solid
Mozilla 1.0 has a setting for automatic software update notifications, which I have enabled. Why wasn't I notified of this?!
I used a combination of Paint Shop Pro and the Gimp.
I like the GIMP -- beautiful piece of software. But that being said, there are definitely things that it doesn't do that would be nice to have. There's a reason the parent poster had to use Paint Shop Pro as well.
The GIMP was modeled heavily after Photoshop -- as a photo retouching tool, though less work was put into for-print output features (like fancy color matching, duotons, color separations) and more into for-computer output (solid image compression and many file formats supported).
It does not, however, fit into the genre of program that existed during the 80s and the early 90s -- the "raster paint program". MacPaint or the Windows Paint program are good examples of this. They tend to emphasize per-pixel operations -- it's easy to, say, draw a single-pixel-thick line or polygon. It's usually not possible to do fine color adjustments. You usually used these things to make synthetic-looking art, diagrams, or game/UI art.
I'm kind of sad to see these things go. If I want to make a rectangle in the GIMP, yes, I can draw a rectangular selection and then fill it. I can simulate the MacPaint polygon tool by using non-smooth Bezier selections and then filling the area...but the old MacPaint style operations made many common computer graphics operations easier.
I wish the GIMP did have something like this -- it'd be easy to add, even if it led to a bit of feature duplication.
The GIMP also isn't much of a natural-media creation program. Anyone that's used MetaCreation's (now procreate's) Painter with a tablet, artist or not, realizes the kind of incredible, easy to make, natural-media output you can get from a computer. I've never painted with real oil paints in my life, but I can do decent-looking oil paintings with Painter and a tablet. The features to support this take some work (at the arcitectural level, unfortunately), but not tons of complex work. I think there are three major things that need to be added to the GIMP to support this. Layers support the image, and an alpha mask. They need a paper map, a dampness map, and a bump map. Layers must have bump maps attached (a la layer maps in the GIMP) which are used to recompute the bump map in real time. This allows paint accumulation (the "streaks" of paint buildup you see in real paintings. Various tools (chisels, scrapers) depress the bump map, and others (paint brushes, crayons) build up the bump map. The dampness map is used to determine bleeding in paper -- if a sponge is passed over paper and then a felt-tip pen drawn over the paper, the ink bleeds much more. Finally, the paper map determines amount of paint/crayon/whatever that comes off of the brush at any point -- it's used to give the paper "texture" and look like canvas, rough paper, wood, whatever.
The GIMP will probably never do this, and I think it's a bit of a shame.
The GIMP is not, despite admirable moves in that direction, a vector graphics program. The Bezier features are very nice, and enterprising artists can do really amazing things with them. Misery has some very good examples of what pseudo-3d work one can do with Bezier curves in a raster graphics program. For the GIMP to be able to compete with, say, Illustrator (which I think *is* possible without architectural changes -- programs like SuperPaint have combined vector and raster elements before), it needs objects, fitting to paths, and better numerical control over elements. You need to be able to say "set a constraint that this object is three inches to the left of this object" and be able to say that object A is two inches big and 300x200 pixels down from the top of the canvas.
It's possible to "stroke" a path -- make a brush draw along a path, but not possible to make text follow a path. This would be a really nice feature, and crucial for a vector graphics program.
Finally, the paths are the closest things to objects the GIMP has -- they are no more than outlines, however, and cannot contain color information, and do not have dependencies. For example, I cannot set a path to contain a gradient (and reshaping the path thus produce a mutated object with the same gradient). The GIMP also has no concept of dependencies -- I can't say "stroke along this path" or "make a drop shadow of the selection contained by this path", update the path, and then have the generated graphics automatically update, though this would be a *tremendous* boon to a graphic artist. The closest I've seen to this is using Illustrator in conjunction with Photoshop with Illustrator's few raster features (letting one, say, create an glass object that distorts objects behind it-- and has an updated distorted area if I reshape the glass object).
Anyway, those are my wish list for the GIMP. I'd like to see an end to statements like "I made this with Paint Shop Pro and the GIMP" or "I made this with Photoshop and the GIMP" and just see "I made this with the GIMP".
May we never see th
With that option, plus pie menus, I'm actually excited about a browser again! :)
Well since a lot of folks are using this as a place to post questions here's mine.. (and whoever posted about switching tabs with the keyboard, thank you! My mozilla experience just got 157.9% better. :-)
How can I make Mozilla bring up a confirmation dialog before quitting, if there are multiple windows open, or files being downloaded. And it would also be nice to get a confirmation before closing a window with multiple tabs.
Basically I'd like Mozilla to confirm before closing any content in other windows or tabs besides the current one. I usually have about 5-10 Mozilla windows spread out over multiple desktops, some with multiple tabs, and whenever I accidentally quit or hit the close button I cringe as I try to remember what was open that I really needed to look at.
Some other options for this might be a "bookmark all windows and tabs in one big fat bookmark", or a "remember all open windows and tabs on exit" kind of option.
I use Konquerer about as much as I do Mozilla, where "Quit" just quits the current window, and quitting the bookmark editor doesn't quit the browser .. sometimes I get them mixed up. Other times my brain just goes off on its own...
Or maybe 1.1 can do this?? Somebody, please drop some Mozilla science on me. :-)
Here's the "one last feature" that would make my day. :-)
I would like a way to have one mozilla process display itself on multiple X11 displays. Xemacs does this; so does gnu emacs, I believe.
With this, I could run one mozilla process on my "server" machine upstairs, and have my browser displayed on all the laptops throughout the house. Right now, I run a mozilla process on each machine; the annoying thing about this is keeping all my bookmarks in sync, since mozilla doesn't let me run multiple browsers on the same profile.
I do this kind of thing all the time with xemacs (gnuclient helps get things started). The advantage here is that I can leave my editing sessions up, possibly with unsaved changes, and I never need to worry about stomping on my changes as I move from one room to another.
"1.1 is still a very immature version, compared to the Internet Explorer family of technologies, which is currently in version 6.x and still being improved daily"
No problem Netscape 7 is coming out and then we will have a version 7.x to trump your 6.x
"When will Mozilla feature speedier web browsing, and better integration with best-of-breed Microsoft products such as MSN messenger and Outlook XP"
Well it already is faster at rendering pages then IE. Especially its faster than IE for Linux. Ooops I forgot you don't make a product for linux. When is that coming out again? Regarding integration with Microsoft products, feel free, they are your virus magnets, I mean products after all.
"A theme that more closely matches the award winning Windows look-and-feel would also be helpful."
Hehe now its award wining huh? Well I guess Apple would be proud of you for stealing their ideas. If you really need the "IE" look and feel, just download the IE theme from Mozdev.org.
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
http://www.lemnet.qatlantis.com/mozilla/
w00t. I use the first one shown on that page.
Beyatch!
. . .and email client are awesome and so much better than anything else.
You obviuosly have not tried PocoMail.
The relevant option is "Middle-click or control-click of links in a Web page".
Since I'm using a laptop I only have two mouse buttons on the touch pad. Is there any way I can enable control-click to open tabbed windows _without_ having it take away my ability to open a link in a new window using my (simulated) middle-click? Thanks!
Any chance of replacing IE with the gecko engine as a whole? I know virtually nothing about windows, but from messing with visual basic for 5 minutes it looks like the IE "browser" is just the activex control for the real rendering engine. Couldn't IE's rendering engine be removed and drop in gecko, and emulate all the API that IE has?
I like mozilla and all, but why should I use mozilla when IE is already required to be loaded in memory (basicly)? It just takes twice as long to load (yes, i know you can load it into memory at startup - why do i have 2 browsers loaded again?) and both accomplish the goal of rendering webpages.
This seems like it should be a bigger deal.
A great feature that I would love to see is a shortcut to change different preferences. An example:
99% of the time I want to only have images from the site loaded, and javascript disabled, and shockwave not there. However there are a few instances, such as hardware forums and sites I support with advertising, as well as the evil msnbc.com, that I would like some things back enabled, or preferences changed. A quick shortcut key to the rescue?
please?
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Is there an Xft build of this, or has that been integrated into the mainstream yet? (I assume not, since I don't see it on the changelist.) After finally getting Moz 1.0 Xft set up, I won't use anything else... it's simply gorgeous, and MUCH better than the native FreeType support in the standard 1.0 for Linux.
I'm really excited to see how the development of Mozilla keeps going. What will definitely help to gain ground in the number of users is the modularity of the system and the support structure. :)
The modularity helps to create a browser with additional features (i.e. the blogger integration) to your liking and the cleaned up core seems to help a lot to move forward fast in development while the giant MS has not brought any real exciting features that would knock me off my feet for several years already.
I don't care anymore if this is a browser war or not, I am just happy with my Mozilla.
- Go here and click on the Install link to download and install the theme.
- Click on the "View" Menu
- Click on "Apply Theme"
- Click on "Internet Explorer"
- Close all Mozilla windows.
Next time you launch Mozilla, it will use standard Windows controls and look distrubingly like Internet Explorer. Hope this Helps..sig: file not found
Slashdot posts a story on Mozzila, which happens to be the browser I use to blick their banner ads. ;)
Yeah, when it comes to memory 'Zilla sure is a monster! haha. Seriously, when will it start to deflate? Obviously IE is just as big, but Opera isn't if you refuse to install that stupid Java.. then there's the fact that she's a slow loader. There's my main gripe, really - Zilla takes forever and a day to load. And it doesn't support my trackpad's scrolling features. And NaviScope won't work nicely with it. And it takes forever to load. And then when it finally loads, it won't behave properly with my trackpad. And then when I break out the mouse after getting frustrated by the retarded scroll buttons, it still won't work with NaviScope (a truly cool utility for caching and ad-blocking).
Looks like the new ones are extremely well done but I 'm stuck on the POIs (Plain Old Icons) that have
been around since I started using Moz (0.9.4) and probably earlier.
Guess it's time to learn how to build it from scratch and get those suckers back.
Now if you're talking about "JavaScript," a scripting language embedded in HTML, that's something completely different. JavaScript and Java are completely unrelated and (unfortunately) only share part of a name. JavaScript is a poorly defined language, so various browsers implement it differently (and have different bugs).
Nope. It still uses Moz' custom controls...
4 1&mode=nested&tid=155&threshold=-1 is in the addr bar of IE and Moz and I want to drag and delete everything after ".org/". In IE, I click once to highlight, then drag from comments.pl over right, and it highlights. In Moz, you click to highlight, but if you click again and swipe over, you envoke "edit mode" in Mozilla's custom combo box control. Mozilla requires an extra click in between -- this, again, is different from all standard Windows controls. This I believe is one of the longest standing problems with Linux (note the similarity) -- lack of consistency among programs. Linux needs a standard set of controls -- not a mishmash of GTK+, qt, and Yo Mamma's toolkit controls. I think Mozilla should stick to the standards --- use GTK if appropriate, but reference Windows' common controls objects under Windows. The same thing should apply under MacOS.
Here's how it goes:
Say http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/27/16262
Congrats! You've been quoted in a News.com article. http://news.com.com/2100-1023-955617.html You're an authority on this subject now. ; )
Windows 2000?
How quaint and 20th century of you.
Why is the mozilla project so anti-spell check?
There are some great freeware spell checkers. I use Excalibur for comment boxes all the time. I find it better than most spell checkers included with major applications. Can it really be THAT hard?
It's like a porsche without breaks. I can appreciate the technology, but without a spell check the email client is worthless.
I guess it's mozilla for browsing and something else for mail. Grrr....
I know what you're talking about because it is kind of annoying if you're not used to it. I just double click, and then drag.
This is the first time I have used Mozilla seriously. On my Linux Laptop, I think I prefer Mozilla over Opera, on my Windows Box, I Like Opera better. It just seems like Opera pulls pages up faster on my Windows PC. As far as my Linux Box goes, Mozilla is far more stable then Opera is. My Favorite thing about it is the pop up stopper, far more intelligent then the one that comes with opera. Is there anyway to get all new windows to open up in Tabs, rather then a new browser windows?
Once upon a time, I once I had a great Sig.....then I lost it.
I like the Document: Done (5.22 secs) item you get with Mozilla. If you empty your disk cache, then go a-surfing, the files are all new to Mozilla and it's disk cache, of course, and with dialup, (I usually get 49333) the page comes up slower, etc.
Next visit to the page, look out! Mozilla now shines, and really outperforms the old 4x Netscapes. Opera may claim speed, but IMHO, they talk the talk, but can't walk the walk like Mozilla can.
I just downloaded the Windows version, and am using it now. I dread having to download the Linux version, because I have TWO linux installs on one HDD, Redhat and Mandrake, and with user accounts, etc. PLUS, I have Windows 98 there also. Of course, I download it once, then copy it to all linux users, but still, It's going to be a long nite!
Rapidweather's Linux Screenshots.
"Written out of sheer frustration by Gerv, not acting in any sort of official capacity." That is what this page says in it's footer. You could as well crank up a page and make it very pro-spell check or even more anti-spell check if you please - but dont come here and complain about it. Anyways, if you cannot live without a spellchecker, nobody is stopping you from using some other software that better suits your needs. The idea of Mozilla is to give you a choice, not dominate or kill other software like we are used to see from certain companies.
I loved Moz 1.1 font rendering on Mac OS X 10.2.
Then the following crashed Moz 1.1 every time:
- viewing weather radar at intellicast.com
- about:plugins
Back to Moz 1.0 for now.
I find it funny to have to retrain myself to reconize mozilla's icon after every release...The artists are busy at work.
There are so many simple features that Mozilla has never included which IE has for quite some time. I mean really how hard is it to allow for colored table borders and bookmarks that can be sorted alphabetically? I'd like to think this was just me nit-picking but if the web isn't a full on graphically pleasing experience for me then I just don't know why I shell out the cash for broadband. I'd like to switch from IE but until something free comes along that can at least begin to compete...well I just don't see it happening.
UNIX/Linux spellchecker binaries can be found here.
So what all is needed to upgrade? Copy the bookmark file? Where are the browser preferences and other settings stored? Is there no easy way to automate this rather than just give the warning to start over again? I'm not asking for myself, but rather for a novice who is resisting upgrading because she doesn't have time to upgrade and wants to be sure she gets everything when she does.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Pity that the linux version still crashes dead when trying to load the Flash 5 plugin.
Still have to revert to Flash 4 *sigh*
Otherwise, Go Mozilla!
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
There is a spell checker available for Mozilla, it is just not in the main project yet. Binaries can be found here (Windows) and here (UNIX/Linux). Assuming that you are using standard mozilla builds from mozilla.org, these should work.
Why is the spellchecker still not in the main project? IMHO, because a spellchecker is a feature that mostly users want but it generally takes an active developer advocate for a project to get added in mozilla.
In case anyone didn't know already, spellchecker binaries can be found here (Windows) and here (UNIX/Linux). Assuming that you are using standard mozilla builds from mozilla.org, these should work.
I used to have a bar that went across the top of the browser that had check boxes for proxies, fonts, colors, javascript, popups, etc...
I can't figure out where this went and I desperately want it back... help???
Evolution: love it or leave it
I hate to say this, but in my experience, Mozilla drags down my AMD/550/128M to a standstill. It is the only Linux application that I use on a regular basis that swaps to disk. (Yes I use Open Office, but it doesn't swap this bad).
Let me finish,
The same box, with the Mozilla version for Win32 doesn't drag at all.
As a developer myself, I feel qualified in asking whats up with this? I made the switch to Linux back in 1996 (except for games), everything I do has always been faster completed in Linux than windows (or OS/2). Netscape 4.7x has always been faster under Linux than the same version under Win32. Whats up with that? Why isn't Mozilla faster under Linux?
The only sane reason I could come up with is generic SVGA support. Is this the reason that my Win32 Mozilla is faster than my Linux version?
I want to know.
And don't construe this as a rant.
Enjoy
It's just the normal noises in here.
He speaketh the truth. Mozilla is much more snappy when clicking around on links. The page caching is a lot faster.
Also, does it fix the problem that it pops up an error message when your Host file has ad-server addresses in it you are using for blocking?
If not, pass...
Richard Steven Hack - This sig is TOO GODDAMN SHORT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL WITH! MORONS!
The other day my two daughters and I were shopping at a local Albertsons store.
It was around 6:30pm and the weather was on the slightly cool side.
As we were rounding around the corner of one row (from the cereal side to the coffee side) I caught a glimpse of a very large figure just leaving the same row yet at the other end.
My youngest daughter caught a glimpse, too.
She asked me what it was and I told her that I wasn't sure.
Both of daughters then prompted me to go and find out.
I walked rapidly to the end, rounded the corner, and froze solid in my steps. I could not believe what I saw.
In front of me, only several feet away, was not just one, but two, of the fattest women I had ever seen in my life.
Nothing but a pair of massive concentrations of cellulite, dripping with layer upon layer of pure blubber. Each with a mop of disgustingly greasy dark hair whos skin were blotched all over with some sort of psoriasis.
I felt my acid starting to build in my stomach and make its way upwards.
I utilized every bit of strength I had to keep from vomiting all over the floor.
I turned around, bent over with my head between my knees, rose back up and took a deep breath.
At that instant when I exhaled, after seeing those two women, the first thing that entered my mind was:
NETSCAPE and MOZILLA
If one of those women would have bent over, I more than likely would have thought of AOL.
This was added in one of the earliest 1.1 alpha builds. I am doomed to using an email account that gets a LOT of spam, and being able to keep the images in all those HTML-laden pieces of garbage from loading and "phoning home" to the spammer that my address is valid, is a compelling reason to upgrade in its own right.
Rock over London, Rock on Chicago. Wheaties: Breakfast of Champions.
One thing that sucks about this new version 1.1 (at the least in OS X) is that in Preferences:Privacy & Security:Images they removed the checkbox that says "Ask me before downloading an image"!
:(
That sucks!
You can still block ads after they load by right clicking on them but you can't block them before.
Did they remove that in the other versions also?
Wakester
My point was that this is not the official stand of the Mozilla organization. Mozilla migt be anti-a few things, but not anti spell check. However you always have to set priorities - there are many nice things that are not in Mozilla (yet) simply because nobody had time and ressources to implement them. Now if countless users start to bug developers with statemens like "i won't use Mozilla unless it has feature x" or "Mail is useless because it doesnt have spellcheck" (like you did), this is not very constructive and honestly, frustrating. Critisism is always welcome and if many users will ask for a spellcheck, maybe somebody will reinforce his donated effort and write one. You can vote for the apropriate bugs but please dont spam them with "I will continue using IE unless ...".
I would just like to suggest to try something
similar with a company where you actually buy the the product and see what happens: "unless this OS has all security holes removed it is useless for me". You have paid for it and what will happen?
Now imagine what will happen with a product that is available for free to you and made to a big part by volunteers.
To reiterate: I am not anti spell check but I have no time and ressources to write that feature. If I head more time and ressources I would implement other things first.
if a spell checker is really essential, maybe the availability of it in NS6 and upcoming NS7 will outweight whatever reasons you have to prefer Mozilla over NS (there is not that much difference).
The new version of IE skin is actually much better now, being the first skin to give you a choice between several "sub skins".
http://mozillako.hypermart.net/ieskin/
well I will take 99 extremely fast and correctly rendered sites plus 1 shitty site that doesn't render right over 100 slow as fucking hell (ie IE) sites.
There is a fix for it, but it requires a bit of work on your part:
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Using the patch at bug 33282 it is now possible to use an external mailer on Unix.
After applying the patch, try the following in prefs.js:
user_pref("network.protocol-handler.external.mail
user_pref("applications.mailto", "rxvt -e mutt");
user_pref("applications.mailto.host", "%username%@%host%");
A similar setup should work for any mailer that will take an address as a commandline option.
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hey, if you didn't know, your post was quoted in a C|NET article.
It may not be standard, but it's actually faster to do how you say in mozilla. In IE, as soon as you click the mouse, the whole thing is highlighted. In mozilla, it doesn't highlight the whole thing until you let GO of the mouse button. If, instead of letting go, you just drag, then it switches to drag mode. What requires 2 clicks in IE only requires one in mozilla. Try it.
p ly &threshold=1&commentsort=0&tid=154&mode=thread&pid =4152132 .org.
Example:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=38748&op=Re
Steps:
1. put mouse on the right side of the "/" by the
2. Click and hold mouse button
3. Drag to the right all the way
4. hit delete
In IE, you have to click once at the begining to get rid of the auto highlighting.
Not saying one is better than the other, they are just different. You may want a conformist browser, while many want a NON-conformist browser. In any case, it would be nice if somewhere in the settings, they had an option for which one to use.
Thanks this is what I have been waiting for!!! Mozilla runs smoother now. Hee haw.
I love the splash screen. It's Mozilla, he's back and he's breathing FIRE!
And the beast shall come forth surrounded by a roiling cloud of vengeance. The house of the unbelievers shall be razed and they shall be scorched to the earth. Their tags shall blink until the end of days.
--The Book of Mozilla, 12:10
--Mythos
I'm aware of all the ways to change the splash. I have changed the splash. However for it to ship with such an unprofessional splash and start page, I just don't think that is going to help widespread acceptance. As trivial as it sounds, it is the cosmetic things that affect widespread acceptance almost more then anything else.
For the person who told me to stop "trolling" slashdot and make my own, there are plenty available that could be used, most look a like more professional then the current laughably ammature looking Mozilla splash screen.
For the person who told me to file a bug report: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32218
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
I don't get what you're saying!
:o)
:o/
When I click the address bar in IE it highlights everything (get's on my nerves) I then have to click again and select the text I want. In Moz I just click and drag the text I want (Much better)
Also, IE always shows the end of the url, whereas Moz always shows the start of the URL, which again I prefer.
To be honest, I hate some of the standard Window controls, like selecting all of a word, when I just want a part of it