Okay, I think you made some intelligent points and I agree with all of them but one:
you will note that there have been no outbreaks of illness associated with this corn
C'mon, you and I both know that something like low-level liver damage might take a long time to show up. And it would be hell to track down because corn is such a widespread food. We have a large increase in allergies and asthma in the last 60 years or so, but we still have dozens of theories on why that might be (none of which may be right).
So while I agree that there should definitely be more testing and a realistic approach (like overall lifetime consumption, etc.), I caution you to do as you suggest others do - stick to good science.
Everyone should tag it as inaccurate (or should that be "!accurate"). That's a tag I wish would catch on. Then they should auto-filter out all inaccurate and dupe articles from the default front page.
Wow, it's amazing how intellectually dishonest people are being in this thread. The original poster said it was useless to HIM because HE wanted to record encrypted HD shows (that's what the whole CableCard thing was talking about). Since MythTV can't do that, he has to get ANOTHER STB. Once he's bought the other STB, there's absolutely no reason to fork out the money and spend all the time on making MythTV work. That makes it completely irrelevant for the poster.
If you were looking for a toaster and I recommended a microwave, don't you think you would be justified in telling me a microwave is completely irrelevant in this instance? Wouldn't you be a bit puzzled when I went on and on about the number of amazing and useful things you could do with a microwave, even though it can't toast bread?
I'm wondering if they didn't change the article out from under us. This was submitted to digg the same way, pointing to the same article. This is backed up by the fact that the AG originally put out an incorrect press release. I hate it when they change things that without linking to the history or even putting "UPDATED" or "CORRECTED".
jibe3/dab/ -verb (used without object), jibed, jibing. to be in harmony or accord; agree: The report does not quite jibe with the commissioner's observations. [Origin: 1805-15, Americanism; orig. uncert.]
Actually, you cut out half of what he was saying. First half:
Until I can get CableCARD support in a home-built Linux box (and I know I never will) Myth is completely irrelevant.
Okay, so he needs CableCARD support. Why might that be? Could it be because he needs to RECORD TV? And could it be because CableCARD is necessary to record encrypted HD broadcasts?
I think his statement was very clear. Especially when it's posted to an article that had the summary:
"How different are the two systems' available remote control devices and their graphic interfaces when it comes to ease of use? Which product should you choose if your HD signal comes OTA or if you plan to use CableCARDs? And what software features (present and future) can you expect with each product? Will loopholes in FCC regulations and cable company encryption ultimately squeeze out MythTV and other open source players?"
I've been trying to figure this out by reading the rules and regs and comments on it. Is there anything that actually requires an unencrypted signal to go out on firewire? At least, for anything other than the "must carry" channels (things that are broadcast over the air in your area)? It seems like a moot point without that part of it. There's a lot of wiggle room in "functional."
Hey, Sherlock, you do realize his comment is on an article comparing MythTV to Tivo for use as a DVR, right?
God, I'm getting sick of hearing this over and over again. I can't wait until the next article that compares OpenOffice to Office points out the lack of compatibility of macros. Then someone will post about how OpenOffice is clearly superior because it has a built in webserver, a plugin to control your audio player, and the hilarious ability to show you what your documents would look like if written by the Swedish Chef.
You do realize the poster was talking about a TV recording solution, right? That's why they mentioned cablecard. Telling them that MythTV is better because it can play copied DVDs (or video game emulators, or music) is a fairly moot point. It still doesn't do the core thing he needs. It's like he wanted a truck that would drive off-road and you pointed out all the cool luxury features in your new mercedes sedan. How comfortable the seats are doesn't really matter. The fact that you can control your mp3 player through eye movements doesn't matter. It still won't go off-road!
So his badmouthing is right on target. You take his quote out of context to make it sound like he's saying the software has very few features. But it was posted in conjunction with him saying that he needs it to use cablecard. It simply cannot do the core thing he needs it to do, which is record the signal from the tv channels he gets.
I know I selected Myth because it's more flexible, powerful, and featureful
I don't understand how this jibes with the fact that it can only record a subset of what the Tivo can (i.e. encrypted hd signals). You can't really call it more "flexible" when it simply cannot record from some sources that the Tivo or other STBs can. In reality, the MythTV has an overlapping set of features. I do wish the MythTV was allowed to play ball and get the encrypted channels. But I just don't see it happening anytime soon. Until then, I have to agree with others and say MythTV will only be appropriate for a small subset of people (even ignoring the price and technical aspects).
You could try reversing the charges, if you paid by credit card. Mostly that's for fraudulent/problem vendors. But you could probably make a case to the phone rep that there's no way you'll get the product you ordered.
Did you read the sentence BEFORE that where I said I was talking about OTHER COMPANIES prepay plans? Have you even seen these plans? Many of them come with a $1 a day charge, whether you use the phone or not. Didn't you shop around when you were looking for a prepay? For example, Verizon has TWO prepay plans. One gives you 350 anytime/3000 night and weekend minutes for $50 a month. 700/3000 for $70 a month! Their other plan has a $1 a day fee even if you don't use the phone that day! So minimum $30 a month. Do you see what I mean now? Can you think of why anyone would get these other than bad credit?
Also, if you actually read the post you are responding to, you'll see that *I* was switching to prepaid in order to save money.
So, basically, why did you even post? Someone an hour before you already corrected me on the rollover. And I posted about how I shopped around and chose the T-Mobile plan. And I didn't claim prepay was only for people with bad credit ratings. And I said I switched to save money.:P
Well, this is one case where I'm definitely happy to be corrected. I was thrown off by two things: 1) they don't put it anywhere on the actual rate plan page for pre-pay and 2) I specifically asked a T-Mobile rep about it and they claimed there was no rollover. Then again, they also claimed I HAD to buy a $50 kit, even though I already had a phone...
Great news, though. I started out with the $100 card. Good to know that I'll definitely be able to rollover if I don't use up all 1,000.
Very strange that they don't really advertise this, though. That was one of the biggest features that made me want to go with Cingular. Maybe it's because Cingular has "Rollover" trademarked and they couldn't think of anything else to call it.
I think you're getting your plans confused. T-Mobile doesn't do rollover for the prepaid. That's Cingular's "Pay As You Go" plan. Though to use the rollover minutes, you have to buy another block of minutes first. T-Mobile's plan is called "To Go." Unfortunately, Cingular costs a flat fee of 25 cents/minute. T-Mobile costs scale depending on how much you buy - from $0.30/min for the $30 card down to $0.10/min for the $100. Each have different quirks to the length of their minute expirations. But $100 gets you minutes on both that don't expire for a year.
Cingular also has another plan that is $0.10/minute and unlimited mobile to mobile but the catch is that if you use the phone at all on a given day, there is a minimum of $1 worth of charges. Kind of a silly plan unless you almost never use your phone.
Other companies have different prepay plans (and Cingular has yet another type as well). But they all suck and are generally for people who have credit so bad they wouldn't be able to sign up for a regular contract.
I was torn between Cingular's and T-Mobile's. The rollover was appealing, even with the higher price. Eventually it came down to the fact that I was already on T-Mobile and the phone I wanted was a tri-band. Cingular and T-Mobile do not operate on the same band and therefore some non-quad-band phones only work on one or the other.
I'm very satisfied with the deal, especially considering that I was maxing out my previous $40/month plan at about 90 minutes. That worked out to $0.45/minute...
Strangely enough, the first moderation on my comment was "Overrated". Why is that even an option for a comment that hasn't even been "rated" yet? Then it looks like some kind soul came along with an "Underrated" to fix it.
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You have clearly never seen the movie CUBE.
So while I agree that there should definitely be more testing and a realistic approach (like overall lifetime consumption, etc.), I caution you to do as you suggest others do - stick to good science.
Really? Well crap, now I have to figure out why I keep getting modded "Overrated" before anyone has modded me up...
I find it hilarious I've been moderated as "Troll". What, I'm trolling to see if I can't bait Clydesdale fans into defending bestiality?
He got off easy. The original settlement required that he be sodomized by a Clydesdale.
Well done, sir. Well done.
Everyone should tag it as inaccurate (or should that be "!accurate"). That's a tag I wish would catch on. Then they should auto-filter out all inaccurate and dupe articles from the default front page.
Wow, it's amazing how intellectually dishonest people are being in this thread. The original poster said it was useless to HIM because HE wanted to record encrypted HD shows (that's what the whole CableCard thing was talking about). Since MythTV can't do that, he has to get ANOTHER STB. Once he's bought the other STB, there's absolutely no reason to fork out the money and spend all the time on making MythTV work. That makes it completely irrelevant for the poster.
If you were looking for a toaster and I recommended a microwave, don't you think you would be justified in telling me a microwave is completely irrelevant in this instance? Wouldn't you be a bit puzzled when I went on and on about the number of amazing and useful things you could do with a microwave, even though it can't toast bread?
I'm wondering if they didn't change the article out from under us. This was submitted to digg the same way, pointing to the same article. This is backed up by the fact that the AG originally put out an incorrect press release. I hate it when they change things that without linking to the history or even putting "UPDATED" or "CORRECTED".
jibe3 /dab/
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-verb (used without object), jibed, jibing.
to be in harmony or accord; agree: The report does not quite jibe with the commissioner's observations.
[Origin: 1805-15, Americanism; orig. uncert.]
--Synonyms conform, accord, fit.
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First rule of being a spelling/grammar nazi - ALWAYS look it up before you correct someone.
(Let the Fight Club jokes begin.)
I think his statement was very clear. Especially when it's posted to an article that had the summary:How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?
I've been trying to figure this out by reading the rules and regs and comments on it. Is there anything that actually requires an unencrypted signal to go out on firewire? At least, for anything other than the "must carry" channels (things that are broadcast over the air in your area)? It seems like a moot point without that part of it. There's a lot of wiggle room in "functional."
So, how exactly do *you* record HBO/ESPN/Discovery Channel in HD using MythTV?
Oh, you don't.
OR
Oh, you down-convert them.
Either way, now we're REALLY talking "lowered expectations".
CableCARD isn't just about control, it's about being able to watch encrypted (movie channels/HD) signals.
Yeah, that's what's so funny. People keep telling the GP that MythTV isn't useless, if only he wanted to use it for something else.
Hey, Sherlock, you do realize his comment is on an article comparing MythTV to Tivo for use as a DVR , right?
God, I'm getting sick of hearing this over and over again. I can't wait until the next article that compares OpenOffice to Office points out the lack of compatibility of macros. Then someone will post about how OpenOffice is clearly superior because it has a built in webserver, a plugin to control your audio player, and the hilarious ability to show you what your documents would look like if written by the Swedish Chef.
You do realize the poster was talking about a TV recording solution, right? That's why they mentioned cablecard. Telling them that MythTV is better because it can play copied DVDs (or video game emulators, or music) is a fairly moot point. It still doesn't do the core thing he needs. It's like he wanted a truck that would drive off-road and you pointed out all the cool luxury features in your new mercedes sedan. How comfortable the seats are doesn't really matter. The fact that you can control your mp3 player through eye movements doesn't matter. It still won't go off-road!
So his badmouthing is right on target. You take his quote out of context to make it sound like he's saying the software has very few features. But it was posted in conjunction with him saying that he needs it to use cablecard. It simply cannot do the core thing he needs it to do, which is record the signal from the tv channels he gets.
You could try reversing the charges, if you paid by credit card. Mostly that's for fraudulent/problem vendors. But you could probably make a case to the phone rep that there's no way you'll get the product you ordered.
Turns out a mobile phone is not a desktop. Pretty shocking, I know.
I just feel sorry for the IPs.
RIP 127.0.0.1
We hardly knew you.
Did you read the sentence BEFORE that where I said I was talking about OTHER COMPANIES prepay plans? Have you even seen these plans? Many of them come with a $1 a day charge, whether you use the phone or not. Didn't you shop around when you were looking for a prepay? For example, Verizon has TWO prepay plans. One gives you 350 anytime/3000 night and weekend minutes for $50 a month. 700/3000 for $70 a month! Their other plan has a $1 a day fee even if you don't use the phone that day! So minimum $30 a month. Do you see what I mean now? Can you think of why anyone would get these other than bad credit?
:P
Also, if you actually read the post you are responding to, you'll see that *I* was switching to prepaid in order to save money.
So, basically, why did you even post? Someone an hour before you already corrected me on the rollover. And I posted about how I shopped around and chose the T-Mobile plan. And I didn't claim prepay was only for people with bad credit ratings. And I said I switched to save money.
Well, this is one case where I'm definitely happy to be corrected. I was thrown off by two things: 1) they don't put it anywhere on the actual rate plan page for pre-pay and 2) I specifically asked a T-Mobile rep about it and they claimed there was no rollover. Then again, they also claimed I HAD to buy a $50 kit, even though I already had a phone...
Great news, though. I started out with the $100 card. Good to know that I'll definitely be able to rollover if I don't use up all 1,000.
Very strange that they don't really advertise this, though. That was one of the biggest features that made me want to go with Cingular. Maybe it's because Cingular has "Rollover" trademarked and they couldn't think of anything else to call it.
I think you're getting your plans confused. T-Mobile doesn't do rollover for the prepaid. That's Cingular's "Pay As You Go" plan. Though to use the rollover minutes, you have to buy another block of minutes first. T-Mobile's plan is called "To Go." Unfortunately, Cingular costs a flat fee of 25 cents/minute. T-Mobile costs scale depending on how much you buy - from $0.30/min for the $30 card down to $0.10/min for the $100. Each have different quirks to the length of their minute expirations. But $100 gets you minutes on both that don't expire for a year.
Cingular also has another plan that is $0.10/minute and unlimited mobile to mobile but the catch is that if you use the phone at all on a given day, there is a minimum of $1 worth of charges. Kind of a silly plan unless you almost never use your phone.
Other companies have different prepay plans (and Cingular has yet another type as well). But they all suck and are generally for people who have credit so bad they wouldn't be able to sign up for a regular contract.
I was torn between Cingular's and T-Mobile's. The rollover was appealing, even with the higher price. Eventually it came down to the fact that I was already on T-Mobile and the phone I wanted was a tri-band. Cingular and T-Mobile do not operate on the same band and therefore some non-quad-band phones only work on one or the other.
I'm very satisfied with the deal, especially considering that I was maxing out my previous $40/month plan at about 90 minutes. That worked out to $0.45/minute...
Strangely enough, the first moderation on my comment was "Overrated". Why is that even an option for a comment that hasn't even been "rated" yet? Then it looks like some kind soul came along with an "Underrated" to fix it.