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EFF Forces DMCA Abuser to Apologize

destinyland writes "The EFF just announced victory over a serial abuser of DMCA copyright notices. To set an example, their settlement required Michael Crook to record a video apology to the entire internet for interfering with free speech. He's also required to withdraw every bogus DMCA notice, and refrain from future bogus notices, never contest the original image again, and take a remedial class on copyright law. He'd attempted to use flaws in the DMCA to censor an embarrassing picture of himself that he just didn't want appearing online — but instead the whole thing backfired."

222 comments

  1. Copyright Ownership? by JonathanR · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who will own the copyright to the apology video?

    1. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Shimdaddy · · Score: 4, Informative

      As stated in TFV (the fine video) 10 Zen monkeys and Mondo Globo own the movie.

    2. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Hovsep · · Score: 1

      According the the statement at the end of the video, he assigns all rights to the video to Jeff Diehl, 10 Zen Monkeys and the MondoGlobo Network.

    3. Re:Copyright Ownership? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      I know you mean in the legal sense, but in the spirit of the law, since the apology is [i]from[/i] him [i]to[/i] everyone on the internet, I guess that means the apology belongs to YOU.

    4. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      since the apology is from him to everyone on the internet, I guess that means the apology belongs to YOU.
      In Soviet Russia, joke goes here!
    5. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTFV :)

    6. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Helpful hint; try using < and > instead of [ and ] in your tags.

    7. Re:Copyright Ownership? by jma05 · · Score: 1

      I guess in this case it is STFV (See The Friggin Video) :-)

    8. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

      Time Magazine's Person of the Year?

    9. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it'll be released under Creative Commons?

    10. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is wrong with his face? is he demented? I figured it was just a warped angle, but every video has the same issue.

      Either way, he is an idiot.

      Image verification word is Feebler. interesting

    11. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Gabriel_503 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      On his website he claims the subject of a photograph should have copyright of it, that using the image should require written consent, and that abusers should pay $50-1,500 in fines.

      Suppose you put an online family photo album up. You would never dream of asking your family for written consent, in fact that would sound insulting. Then your cousin gets pissed at you and decides to sue so that you get fined.

      This guy's a frigging genius. With laws like this, you might as well use that new digital camera as a bookend.

    12. Re:Copyright Ownership? by destinyland · · Score: 1

      The video is clearly labelled as a Creative Commons where it's being hosted at http://10zm.blip.tv/file/169553/

    13. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wait, first I'm selected Time Magazine's Person of the year and now this?

    14. Re:Copyright Ownership? by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      If he wants that he can go to Europe, it's a violation of privacy laws to post someone's photo on the net without their approval.

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    15. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Orgazmus · · Score: 1

      WHERE in Europe is that unlawful?
      You know, Europe is not a federation, yet.

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    16. Re:Copyright Ownership? by pipatron · · Score: 1

      In Sweden, at least. The law is a bit strange, and I'm not sure if I like it or not. A picture of someone is regarded as personal information about that person, in the same way as the phone number or address. I think that is about to change though.

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    17. Re:Copyright Ownership? by mpe · · Score: 1

      On his website he claims the subject of a photograph should have copyright of it, that using the image should require written consent, and that abusers should pay $50-1,500 in fines

      So what? Plenty of people have opinions on how laws should work, which are different from the way they actually do (including copyright laws) this is basic "political speach".

    18. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 1

      You seem to have missed the point.

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    19. Re:Copyright Ownership? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      The fact that it's political speech doesn't make it any less idiotic.

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    20. Re:Copyright Ownership? by spyfrog · · Score: 1

      Not really.

      You also have to state whom the picture represent.
      So if you post a picture of me but don't tell anyone that it is me, then you are safe.

      You are also free to post pictures of known people and tell people whom they are - since they are already known to the public.
      Who you have to be to be "known" is however not really specified but I guess that public figures like the king, prime minister and other public persons is covered.

    21. Re:Copyright Ownership? by bmsleight · · Score: 1

      But alas the video is not available in a free format.

    22. Re:Copyright Ownership? by Azundris · · Score: 1

      On his website he claims the subject of a photograph should have copyright of it Actually, that's the law in some countries, which strangely haven't come to an end yet.

      With laws like this, you might as well use that new digital camera as a bookend. Your point being? I bought a car, so I should be allowed to drive any way I damn well please? Just because I own a gun, I should have the right to shoot random people as I please?
  2. Takedown notice was fast by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 1

    The last link seems dead already.

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  3. Blank apology by blantonl · · Score: 1

    Nothing like a blank apology to say you're sorry.

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  4. That's it? by omeomi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He'd attempted to use flaws in the DMCA to censor an embarrassing picture of himself that he just didn't want appearing online

    That's it? They finally get a serial abuser of the DMCA to apologize, and it's just some guy with a nudie picture that he didn't want people to see? How about getting an **AA or something to apologize for *really* infringing on free speech/expression?

    1. Re:That's it? by memojuez · · Score: 1

      Sometimes it takes baby steps.

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    2. Re:That's it? by StringBlade · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you search around a bit (Google cache helped here) you'll see that it wasn't a nudie picture he was embarrassed about, it was his entire bit on Hannity and Colmes where they verbally beat him down for badmouthing our troops. He figured that he owned his own image and that somehow the DMCA gave him the power to prevent the reproduction of his image in that broadcast.

      Naturally you don't own the copyright to your image if someone else takes a picture of you and you sign a waiver giving up your copyright to that particular image and likeness.

      In the end, he's just a sad, disillusioned jerkoff who does things the American Way(TM) - without thinking about or understanding his actions.

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    3. Re:That's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Naturally you don't own the copyright to your image if someone else takes a picture of you and you sign a waiver giving up your copyright to that particular image and likeness.

      Actually, that's not quite correct. If somebody else takes a photograph of you, they own the copyright. Period. Waivers don't assign copyright, they just allow the image to be used for monetary gain (and I suspect - although I don't know for certain - that that's purely a "cover your backside" exercise, without any legal requirement beyond that of avoiding a drawn out lawsuit.)

      I think (again, I don't know for certain) that it comes down to reasonable expectations. If you're on the beach, you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy; any photo of you taken in such a situation is fair game for publication. If you're in your own home, or a hotel room, or similar, you do have a reasonable expectation, and any photographer or news media worth their salt would have you sign a waiver before using the image. Of course, the context in which the image is used may allow you to sue successfully for damages on the grounds of defamation or similar, but that's not related to the copyright on the image.

      Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. I am also not a professional photographer (although I am a moderately serious amateur, with some small knowledge of the law as it applies in Australia.)

    4. Re:That's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      That first part was right: "Naturally you don't own the copyright to your image if someone else takes a picture of you."

      Fixed it for you.

    5. Re:That's it? by mightyQuin · · Score: 1

      Maybe I'm a little creeped out by viewing Michael Crook's apology, but "Sometimes it takes baby steps" sounded a lot like "It puts the lotion on its skin".

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    6. Re:That's it? by aero2600-5 · · Score: 1

      "they just allow the image to be used for monetary gain (and I suspect - although I don't know for certain - that that's purely a "cover your backside" exercise.."

      A flip through any tabloid should assure you that you don't need permission to use it for monetary gain.

      Aero

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    7. Re:That's it? by rossz · · Score: 1

      A few minutes with photoshop and it WILL be embarrassing nude photos that he'll want removed.

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    8. Re:That's it? by reub2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A flip through any tabloid should assure you that you don't need permission to use it for monetary gain.
      In Nussenzweig v. DiCorcia, the New York Supreme Court decided that selling an image doesn't constitute commercial use. Commercial use would be using the persons image on an advertisement.
    9. Re:That's it? by reub2000 · · Score: 1

      Also, one frame from video would be considered fair use. He had no leg to stand on.

    10. Re:That's it? by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      some guy with a nudie picture He was not even nude... Just a rather run-of-the-mill suit-and-tie picture that he's embarrassed about for some weird reason.
    11. Re:That's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it is _your_ troops you are personally accountable for every rape and killing any soldier in those troops made. I personally call the army, THE army, not MY army. I also call the government, THE government and not MY government, no matter if I voted on them or not.

      I'm a free individual.. eh?

    12. Re:That's it? by StormReaver · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "They finally get a serial abuser of the DMCA to apologize, and it's just some guy with a nudie picture that he didn't want people to see?"

      It wasn't even a nude shot, or anything anyone would think twice about. It was a picture of him appearing on Fox News in a suit and tie. All jokes aside, the picture shows nothing embarassing. The only thing that's embarassing about is the supreme lack of intelligence he showed in trying to get it removed. That broadcast to the world how rabidly insecure he is.

    13. Re:That's it? by someone1234 · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? This is just a mugshot of the guy fully clothed as he appears at an interview.

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    14. Re:That's it? by mp3phish · · Score: 0

      Actually, you are incorrect. All participants in an image are partial copyright owners. The photographer is not the one who created the image. Every person in the image, plus the photographer, plus anyone who helped the photographer.

      The same works for movies. If you are in a movie, you are partial owner to a copyright.

      This is why there are contracts for everyone in the movie/picture/etc. Typically, every person in the "work" has to sign a waiver of their copyright.

      Just because the photographer you hired claims that he owns all copyrights to the work, doesn't make is so in the general case. You had either a written or verbal agreement to that effect. This is why he must ask YOUR permission before he can publish your photograph in his portfolio. And you must ask HIS permission before you can make duplicates of the photo.

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    15. Re:That's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he's just a sad, disillusioned jerkoff who does things the American Way(TM) - without thinking about or understanding his actions

      ... which justifies hitting back at him in such a vengeful, humiliating way?

      Note to the EFF: What the fuck happened to not lowering yourself to your opponent's level?

    16. Re:That's it? by geoffspear · · Score: 1

      Actually, you have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about, at least as far as US law is concerned. The photographer owns the copyright of any image he takes, unless the image is made as a work for hire.

      Model releases have nothing whatsoever to do with copyright.

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    17. Re:That's it? by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      That's utter crap. The release you sign (and I have worked both in front of the camera and behind, in movies (including at least one Hollywood production), as well as a photographer). You have fuck-all partial copyright as an actor/model. You are making an agreement re the USAGE RIGHTS and any compensation to be exchanged therefore. You do not get a clause that you have to sign to waive your "partial copyright", because you have none. You were not the creator of the work (even if you were acting/posing - your existence is not copyrightable).

    18. Re:That's it? by mp3phish · · Score: 1

      I'm not agreeing with you, but...

      Who owns the copyright of a movie? The editor? The guy running the camera? The director? No, the company who employs these people. But who created the movie? Was it the cameraman? NO! Who actually got the copyright and signed it over to the company? It was everyone who was hired to make the movie. Every single one of them.

      The same is true in a partnership environment. It isn't cut and dry, and your right, it is all about work for hire. But you are trying to make work for hire become some sort of black and white issue. It isn't.

      In a verbal pertnership, the photographer is not always the copyright holder. If a group of actors get together and put on a performance and ask someone to go in and film it, i can GUARANTEE you that the cameraman does not own the copyright to it. He only owns the copyright to that particular filming of it, but the performance itself is still wholely owned by the actors and they must give permission for the photographer to copy the film. Likewise, they must have permission from the cameraman to copy his version of the film.

      Ok, so now what if instead of a group of actors, it is just one person acting. Then who owns the copyright?

      Ok, so now what about if it is just a model who wants some pictures of herself in front of some famus building, who owns the copyright then?

      Ok, not who owns the copyright if you ask a tourist to take a picture of you in front of the washington monument?

      Like I said, it isn't black and white. And the whole grey "work for hire" thing is in many times a verbal agreement between people. Technically, the IMAGE itself is copyrighted by the person taking it. But the content of the image is NOT his copyright and permission must be granted.

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    19. Re:That's it? by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1
      Actually, you raised a very good few points, that I'll try to respond (as best I know). When you mentioned the models/actors assigning copyright... in this case, it's actually your cameramen who would be assigning copyright to the production company (although almost certainly this would be a clause of their generic employment contract, rather than an assignation of rights specifically, though there may well be a specific document they'd do so with).

      The issue is that it's the 'depiction' that's copyrighted. I can see what you're trying to argue, and there's a very valid and logical case for your argument. But an example. You paint a picture. You own copyright thereof. I take a picture of your picture. I own copyright on /that/ depiction, even though the depiction is of your copyrighted work. It doesn't change the validity of your copyright over your work, but your copyright is not going to virally infect mine by virtue of it being a part of the depiction. Of course, in this regard, fair use/derivative stuff applies, too, which complicates things, but legally, things stand as described here.

      Your remarks re filming a performance. The cameraman does /not/ require the actors permission to /distribute/ the film, nor assignation of copyright. What he /would/ require is authorization to film the copyrighted performance in the first place. Once he has that, he is creating a derivative work of his own doing (again, per the previous paragraph, it just so happens that the content may well be copyrighted itself).

      Ok, not who owns the copyright if you ask a tourist to take a picture of you in front of the washington monument?

      Technically, the tourist. But that would make a plausible case for 'work for hire' if it came down to it.

      It was never disputed, but there is a reasonably famous anecdote about a big photography get together in Europe back in the day. A group of world famous photographers (Helmut Newton, Ansel Adams, the like) went out to lunch together, and some tourists asked one to take a photo, completely oblivious. The photographers took shots, handed it from person to the other, used the whole roll, which annoyed the tourists, who then went on their way, not knowing (possibly still not knowing) that they had in their camera a roll of film full of shots by half a dozen of the worlds most prestigious artists. Now, knowing that, if ever there was a time you might want to be sure of the "work for hire" claim, that'd be it.

    20. Re:That's it? by memojuez · · Score: 1

      ROFL!!!

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  5. Why not Purjury by silas_moeckel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since the guy appears to have made knowingly false statements under penalty of perjury clause of the DCMA when will the DA file the criminal charges????

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    1. Re:Why not Purjury by purduephotog · · Score: 2, Informative

      They tried that on BestBuy when BB sued FatWallet.com for posting their BlackThursday ads. I wanted to see a lawyer rot in jail, but they got themselves off.

      Yes, pun intended.

    2. Re:Why not Purjury by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

      posting their BlackThursday ad

      --eh still haven't gotten your calendar problems sorted (the term is BLACKFRIDAY although you could be referring to TD online specials)

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    3. Re:Why not Purjury by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since the guy appears to have made knowingly false statements under penalty of perjury clause of the DCMA when will the DA file the criminal charges????

      Watch his video. He repeats over and over that he didn't understand what he was doing at the time and that he still believes the law he didn't understand is stupid. There's no way to prove "knowingly".

  6. Oh, the irony... by imemyself · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Isn't it ironic - not only that a very large number of people will see his picture because he was an &^*hole, but also that the site that he apparently tried to have taken down, is offline (presumably due to the /. effect or because it was linked to by other sites).

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  7. Re:DMCA means... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Don't?!

    Shit, I'm in trouble!

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  8. Lip service by HomelessInLaJolla · · Score: 1

    Lip service is infinitely cheap. As long as we're living in a nation which is d0minated by artificially created taxpayer debt you'll never see a significant victory over the organizations which help to maintain that debt.

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    1. Re:Lip service by diablomonic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      understood (see sig)

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  9. lucky guy by illegalcortex · · Score: 1, Funny

    He got off easy. The original settlement required that he be sodomized by a Clydesdale.

    1. Re:lucky guy by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 4, Funny

      He got off easy. The original settlement required that he be sodomized by a Clydesdale.

      No Clydesdales were willing to go near him. Even with blinders on. It's the smell, apparently.

    2. Re:lucky guy by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2, Funny

      He got off easy. The original settlement required that he be sodomized by a Clydesdale.

      I thought it was the CowboyNeal option...

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    3. Re:lucky guy by illegalcortex · · Score: 1, Funny

      I find it hilarious I've been moderated as "Troll". What, I'm trolling to see if I can't bait Clydesdale fans into defending bestiality?

    4. Re:lucky guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troll is the moderation choice most commonly applied to unfunny attempts at humour. HTH HAND.

    5. Re:lucky guy by illegalcortex · · Score: 0

      Really? Well crap, now I have to figure out why I keep getting modded "Overrated" before anyone has modded me up...

    6. Re:lucky guy by couchslug · · Score: 1

      The original settlement may not have qualified as punishment.
      Some folks like that stuff:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Pinyan

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    7. Re:lucky guy by alienmole · · Score: 1

      Don't sweat it, the moderation system is just a way to figure out which people, when given some tiny amount of power, will immediately start behaving like the prison guards at Abu Ghraib.

    8. Re:lucky guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the mods are pussies and are afraid of getting dinged for an unfair mod. Little do they know that slashcode penalizes moderators for using underrated/overrated.

    9. Re:lucky guy by illegalcortex · · Score: 1
      Some folks are going to be getting a lot of dings...

      lucky guy, posted to EFF Forces DMCA Abuser to Apologize, has been moderated Troll (-1).

      It is currently scored Troll (0).

      lucky guy, posted to EFF Forces DMCA Abuser to Apologize, has been moderated Underrated (+1).

      It is currently scored Troll (1).

      Re:lucky guy, posted to EFF Forces DMCA Abuser to Apologize, has been moderated Overrated (-1).

      It is currently scored Normal (0).

      lucky guy, posted to EFF Forces DMCA Abuser to Apologize, has been moderated Overrated (-1).

      It is currently scored Troll (0).

      Re:lucky guy, posted to EFF Forces DMCA Abuser to Apologize, has been moderated Overrated (-1).

      It is currently scored Normal (0).

      lucky guy, posted to EFF Forces DMCA Abuser to Apologize, has been moderated Overrated (-1).

      It is currently scored Troll (-1).

      lucky guy, posted to EFF Forces DMCA Abuser to Apologize, has been moderated Funny (+1).

      It is currently scored Troll (0).

      lucky guy, posted to EFF Forces DMCA Abuser to Apologize, has been moderated Funny (+1).

      It is currently scored Funny (1).

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      It is currently scored Funny (1).
  10. exile by mastershake_phd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    apology to the entire internet
     
    I think he should be banned from the internet, hey they did it to mitnick.

    1. Re:exile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mitnick was a worse, and different, type of criminal.

      Different crimes have different penalties.

    2. Re:exile by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      "Worse" is a matter of opinion. I, for one, think we're better off with Mitnick!

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    3. Re:exile by Workaphobia · · Score: 1

      No one's worried that a DMCA abuser's ability to find vulnerabilities in the law will result in a nuclear strike. The best they can do is a simple denial of service.

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  11. Woohooo!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Today a single someone... Tomorrow the RIAA and MPAA!!!

    (Yeah... Sardonic and resigned...)

  12. The best apologies... by Chairboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The best apologies are the ones that are forced by court order.

    BTW, here's a good indicator of how sincere he is: http://www.stopfairuse.info/

    1. Re:The best apologies... by rossifer · · Score: 1

      I posted this comment to his blog entry protesting fair use:

      If you want to write a critique for a book, it's often necessary to refer to specific portions of the book, by description and repetition of the actual content, so that someone wanting to read your critique doesn't have to go and buy the work themselves just to understand what you're arguing. Fair use protects the ability of everyone to do that, thus protecting the ability to discuss, criticise, parody, promote, etc.

      Ultimately, the ability to publically discuss is the core of culture, and that's infinitely more valuable than any supposed interests of the original copyright holder. Being free from criticism is only bliss to the fool.

      Though I doubt that it will happen any time soon, what you should learn from this whole affair is that you (like all of us) don't have control over anything, and further, you won't ever have control. The internet has indeed put a serious dent in copyright by reducing the marginal cost of copying data to $0.00. Nothing is going to "fix" that fact. All that will happen from here is much gnashing and yelling as various industries adjust to that new fact of reality.

      BTW, I understand completely if you choose not to post this.

      Regards,
      Ross

    2. Re:The best apologies... by HoosierPeschke · · Score: 1

      Here's yer website, and I raise you a WHOIS...

      Well, I'd post it but I'm afraid I'd get sued for releasing public information that is available from your local *nix command line by simply typing `whois stopfairuse.info`. Anyone from New York?

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    3. Re:The best apologies... by PhxBlue · · Score: 4, Informative

      Good find! If you don't like Crook's two-faced approach to his case, feel free to write him a letter or give him a call:

      Michael Crook
      8417 Oswego Rd. #179
      Baldwinsville, NY 13027
      Phone: 347-218-7773
      Email: mcwhoismail@gmail.com

      Info courtesy of Whois.net.

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    4. Re:The best apologies... by lysse · · Score: 1

      Yeah. That campaign's going to succeed. I can really see the public rallying round someone openly condemning fairness. Maybe he should have called it "letmecheat.com" and really cleaned up...

      (In related news, today I discovered that the phrase "too stupid to use a computer" no longer has any value. Thanks, Xerox.)

    5. Re:The best apologies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IANAL, but is a settlement a court order? Or can settlements be confidential? If it actually went to trial and the court ordered this punishment, then that would set a precedent that could be used to fry bigger fish. But just because one guy agrees to a settlement doesn't mean that bigger fish are bound by that. Just my $0.02.

    6. Re:The best apologies... by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 1

      It is clearly forced apology. If you look at his comments on youtube you can clearly see he is a bitter person and didn't mean the apology at all.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWVJG7lr6UE

    7. Re:The best apologies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, he was forced to apologize. Why do you think you need to tell us something that any non-retarded individual could deduce on their own?

    8. Re:The best apologies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, people really put their real info in those?

    9. Re:The best apologies... by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 1

      He probably thought you wouldn't figure it out.

      Judges can slap you if your vocal about not meaning the apology. Why do you think he didn't do the apology in a sarcastic voice?

  13. Inapplicable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Disclaimer: IANAL

    But back when we had lawyers from the Copyright Office interviewed on Slashdot, they said that the perjury provisions are only applicable to the statement that whoever sends them actually represents the (alleged) copyright holder. In other words, all Crook was swearing to under perjury was that he represented himself. The way it would actually come into play was if, say, he had pretended to represent Fox News (or whoever *actually* owned the copyrights) and then filed DMCA notices under their name with YouTube to get those video clips taken down.

    That said, I think they *should* put up some kind of penalty for frivilous DMCA Takedown Notices, but if there is any such thing, I haven't seen it litigated. I loved that he had to agree to take a course on copyright law, though. Creative settlements at their best! I wonder if they mandated that he had to *pass* the course, though?

    Lastly, in a completely offtopic note, am I the only one who is now picturing this guy holding a press conference to announce "I am not a Crook!"? :-)

  14. First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... with shallow pockets. Once the precedent is established you use it to go after people (scumbags or otherwise) with deeper pockets.

    That's why prosecutors start a child molester, if possible, when they're prosecuting the first case under a new censorship law.

    Works just as well for the good guys:

      - Start with some idiot who both exposed himself in public as part of a scam and used bogus DMCA takedown notices. Get the precedent established that bogus DMCA takedown notices are wrong and you can be punished for them.

      - Next go after somebody who used bogus takedown notices without exposing himself or committing other previous (but somehow related) scams, but DID cause a bunch of financial and/or other damage by his activities. Establish that he has to pay for the damage plus a penalty.

      - THEN take on the MAFIAA.

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    1. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by e9th · · Score: 1
      The real problem is the DMCA. Republicans loved it, Clinton signed it.

      How to repeal it? I don't know. The MAFIAA seem to have broad bi-partisan support.

    2. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by grouchomarxist · · Score: 1

      That's "resurrection".

    3. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by aero2600-5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Once the precedent is established.."

      This case was not decided by a judge. It was settled out of court.

      I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that there is no legal precedent set when someone settles.

      Aero

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    4. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      This case was not decided by a judge. It was settled out of court.

      I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that there is no legal precedent set when someone settles.


      You're correct. (The fact that he settled may make others more likely to cave. But it doesn't establish any law that courts look at for those that don't settle.)

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    5. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by Score+Whore · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just out of curiousity do you know what precedent is? I'm thinking you don't. First, this case was settled. It never went before a judge or jury, it wasn't decided. So no precedent. Second, let's go ahead and say this did go to trial and a judge actually rendered a judgement. It would mean zero to the next DMCA case that comes along unless it's "on all fours" with the original case. So your theory that a case about false DMCA notices will reflect on legitimate DMCA cases is complete bullshit. Thirdly, the only time precedent is established is when there is some ambiguity in the statute. There's nothing in the DMCA that is ambiguous about non-copyright holders submitting take down notices.

    6. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Thanks. (I've fixed it - and slashdot will fix it retroactively.)

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    7. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by putaro · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Start showing up at Congresscritters' doors with a dump truck full of money. Seriously. The MPAA and RIAA have been lobbying, hard, to get this stuff in place to protect their little industry. And it is a *little* industry. The record industry, as a whole, grossed about $40 billion last year. In contrast, IBM had revenue of $91 billion dollars in 2005. Yet these little schmucks have managed to screw up the whole computing and consumer electronics industry with their nonsense. Why? Because they were much more effective at lobbying.

    8. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How to repeal it? You do as Michael Crook did: send out lotsa bogus takedown notices, preferably to those ISPs that obey them without blinking an eye.

      With one difference: you don't get caught. So don't send them out about content related to you, or from an e-mail address that is traceable back to you.

      If lots of people started doing this, ISPs would get the hint that maybe, just maybe, they should examine a copyright claim before acting on it.

    9. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      Nice theory, just two little holes:

      1) This was settled out of court, so no precedent
      2) This was about claiming to own copyright when you don't, which is explicitly in violation of the DMCA; the "MAFIAA" actually work on behalf of the legal copyright holders, and so it's doubtful that that provision would apply

    10. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Politicians don't take dump trucks anymore, now they want a series of tubes that keeps the money flowing to them.

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    11. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by mpe · · Score: 1

      This was about claiming to own copyright when you don't, which is explicitly in violation of the DMCA; the "MAFIAA" actually work on behalf of the legal copyright holders, and so it's doubtful that that provision would apply.

      Actually it's quite possible for this to apply. Especially when there have been cases of claiming a copyright infringement based purely on regular expression matching of filenames.

    12. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by penix1 · · Score: 1

      "If lots of people started doing this, ISPs would get the hint that maybe, just maybe, they should examine a copyright claim before acting on it."

      And just how do you propose they do that? ISPs are not copyright specialists. I would shudder to think of the fallout of making them the gatekeepers of online copyright.

      What needs to be repealed isn't only the DMCA take-down provisions but the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension act itself. Specifically, the non-registration of copyright clause has caused untold havoc in even determining if a copyright even exists on a work.

      B.

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    13. Re:First you go after an obvious scumbag ... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      And just how do you propose they do that? Maybe, by just sticking to the procedures? Like notifying the allegedly infringing party of the takedown notice, and give them 24 hours ("expeditious") to either remove the offending contents or file a counter-notice (yes, the DMCA specifically allows for this. Of course, if you file a counternotice, and the work is indeed copyrighted, you face stiffer penalties).

      Problem is, many ISPs skip the notification requirement, and shut down the site right away. And 24 hours is still way too short. But ISPs have other avenues, such as petitioning congress to repeal the DMCA, as the need to handle all these notices puts an undue burden on their business. If ISPs complain, they will have more weight than if private parties complain.

      What needs to be repealed isn't only the DMCA take-down provisions but the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension act itself. I completely agree

      Specifically, the non-registration of copyright clause has caused untold havoc in even determining if a copyright even exists on a work. Well, the part in Sonny Bono that bothers me most is not the automatic copyright, but the extension of terms. If there wasn't automatic registration, we would have the inverse problem, namely big corporations misappropriating works performed by volunteers for their own needs.

      So, automatic copyright is sensible. What is not sensible are the outrageously long terms (death of author + 75 years, or whatever it is now...), and the absence of due process (DMCA as implemented by most ISPs)

  15. That's stupid. by zdc · · Score: 0

    It's like an abducted child asking to be taken off the back of a milk carton or those have-you-seen-me mailings for DMCA violations. If they wouldn't have gone and gotten themselves kidnapped, this wouldn't have happened.

    Thusly: if he didn't have naked pictures of himself on the internet, there wouldn't be naked pictures of himself on the internet.

    Go ahead and "-1, distasteful" me... I deserve it.

    1. Re:That's stupid. by soft_guy · · Score: 1

      Why does everyone keep saying it was a naked picture. It wasn't - it was just a picture of him appearing on Fox News (Hannity and Colmes). If you bothered to watch the apology video, he basically said that he was embarassed to have appeared on Hannity and Colmes and that was why he sent the takedown notices - he basically didn't want to be reminded that he was on the show.

      I have no idea WHY he appeared on Hannity and Colmes, but if I had appeared on it, I guess I'd be embarrassed too.

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    2. Re:That's stupid. by emilyridesabmx · · Score: 1

      Yeah, everyone is confusing two incidents this jerk was involved in. It started a while back with those two kids who posted fake sex ads on Craigslist, then reposted the info and pictures of the people who responded. Then, this creep Michael Crook, copycatted them, posted fake casual Encounters ads, then posted them on a website called something like 'craigslistperverts.com'. He was interviewed about the whole CL debacle several times on various blogs and in print media. That's issue one. Apprantly, although I find this VERY hard to believe, this guy was a soldier at some point. He was interviewed on Hannity and Colmes because he loves attention, and there is no faster way to get it than having an ex-soldier bad mouth the service people fighting in Iraq on a conservative talk show. That's where Hannity and Colmes come in. The picture in question was a video still from Hannity and Colmes. He sent the DMCA take down notices claiming that he owned the copyright to that photo, which he didn't. That's not the point though. What matters isn't who own the copyright to the photo, it's fair use. basically any blog/site/news outlet can use that photo of Michael Crook while reporting on any of his creepy projects because he made himself a public figure, and fair use covers reasonable use of photos, quotes etc. when covering a news story. That's the main pint here, fair use, not copyright. More than anything, Michael Crooks is the worst kind of human. He's a holocaust denier, a self admitted racist and homophobe, can't stand free speech, fair use and the open exchange of information. I think the EFF deserves a few beers for knocking this guy down a few pegs. I guess if I were as ugly as him I wouldn't want my picture all over the web either.

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    3. Re:That's stupid. by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Your analogy is friggin' retarded. An abducted child doesn't do it voluntarily, moron.

    4. Re:That's stupid. by zdc · · Score: 0

      You not getting an obvious joke is friggin' retarded. What's even worse, is that you were modded +2 for that.

    5. Re:That's stupid. by soft_guy · · Score: 1

      As a result of this article, I went to his website and read some of his "articles". He is a fool.

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  16. Could somebody ... by Etyenne · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... just post a link to the embarrassing picture in question ? I don't care about TFA being slashdotted, I just want to make fun of the idiot.

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    1. Re:Could somebody ... by SirTalon42 · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://edified.org/external/crook

      Link is work safe. He looks like a mix of michael jackson and some stupid emo kid that has been crying (it looks like he has black eyeliner thats running down his face!).

      I probably shouldn't be calling people emo while listening to My Chemical Romance...

    2. Re:Could somebody ... by InsaneMosquito · · Score: 5, Informative
    3. Re:Could somebody ... by SurturZ · · Score: 1

      Previously, he just looked crook. Now he really is a crook :-)

    4. Re:Could somebody ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    5. Re:Could somebody ... by jd · · Score: 1

      It's Michael Jackson doing an Alice Cooper impression.

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  17. Fox owns this image... by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For anyone who missed the original article it's all about this image which is not owned by Michael.

    It's not even that bad...hehe.

    1. Re:Fox owns this image... by indros · · Score: 3, Funny

      My god! I was wondering what had happend to Balki!

    2. Re:Fox owns this image... by ShaunC · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wait.. which side is the Fox News mouthpiece, and which side is the guy who sued because he didn't want his image published? I can easily see it going either way.

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    3. Re:Fox owns this image... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Fox owns this image... by Chrisje · · Score: 2, Funny

      As a representative of Mr Bartokomous I must draw your attention to the fact that Mr Bartokomous was hurt and disappointed by that comment, and will serve you a DMCA notice pending the removal of said comment.

      Furthermore, you are excluded from the dance of joy.

    5. Re:Fox owns this image... by DeadChobi · · Score: 1

      God, that was funny. Thank you AC, I can always count on you for a good laugh.

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    6. Re:Fox owns this image... by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 2, Informative

      The actual interview is here.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGyG1lVXLBw

      I am not a big fan of H&C but verbally kicking this guy in the nuts was funny.

    7. Re:Fox owns this image... by KingSkippus · · Score: 1

      Actually, verbally kicking this guy in the nuts wasn't very funny at all.

      This idiocy was a simple mutually beneficial exchange between the Fox News Channel and Michael Crook. They want rantings, he wants attention. So they get to put an idiot up on screen that they can verbally rake over the coals and look all smart while doing, and he gets some perverted pride in being notorious.

      What's really disgusting is how Hannity and Colmes are trying to look all intelligent while raking the guy over the coals, and in spite of how blisteringly easy that should have been considering how stupid Michale Crook is, both come off as looking pretty dumb. Hannity keeps beating Crook into saying that servicemen die defending our freedoms, and Colmes hammers his one good question over and over.

      All I can say is that it's a damn good thing for Hannity and Colmes that Michael Crook is such an idiot. In spite of how wrong Crook really, really is, if he had just three brain cells that weren't working on pumping his heart and inflating his lungs, he really could have turned the tables on Hannity and Colmes and torn both of them a verbal new one.

      Of course, I guess at least the producers of the show are smart. They're the ones who don't allow intelligent people of either political persuasion get on the show. They don't want a devil's advocate that's got any intelligence, because the danger that it would make Pinky and The Brain look bad and embarrass the network is just far too great.

    8. Re:Fox owns this image... by alienmole · · Score: 1

      I dunno, I find AC's stuff to be a bit mixed, myself. I can never figure out her politics, either!

    9. Re:Fox owns this image... by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      I guess at least the producers of the show are smart. They're the ones who don't allow intelligent people of either political persuasion get on the show.

      They have intelligent, well-reasoned guests on the show all the time. They just don't let them finish a sentence and/or they argue semant..

      Let me stop you right there. The only time we stop our guests is when it becomes evident that they're self-important windbags who are completely dodging our questions. When we ask if George W., peace be upon him, is a good President or a great President, we expect an answer, not some dissertation on the environmental impact of the War on Terrorism, as if CO2 emissions matter one bit when people are doing a very poor job of trying to attack us in our father^whomeland.

    10. Re:Fox owns this image... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'her'? There are no girls on the Interbutt!

    11. Re:Fox owns this image... by alienmole · · Score: 1

      A guy can dream...

  18. hmm.. by joshier · · Score: 0

    Something is just not right about this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2ynU3cQ9Ps

    What's wrong with his hair?.. hmm, just doesn't look right.

  19. Ask him yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  20. Fingers crossed! by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1
    Off camera, the subject has their fingers crossed!

    More seriously, these apologies do nothing useful. They just build resentment and I bet he's thinking: "I'll get you fuquers! Payback shall be mine!"

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    1. Re:Fingers crossed! by jwhyche · · Score: 0

      I disagree. It is a form of public humiliation and that used be a common punishment for minor crimes. Chaining someone to the hitching post or put them in the stocks in the town square was standard treatment several hundred years ago for stuff like public drunkeness, wife beatings, or brawling. Granted, those are not minor crimes now but they where then.

      By putting someone in the stocks in the town square you let the whole village know what kind of loser they where. Now, we have taken this dumbass and stuck his loser ass in the internet version of the town square. Which just turns out to be the whole fucking world.

      Maybe this loser will learn something, maybe not. Better yet, maybe his dumbass will be an example to other dumbasses to what can happen. Maybe this unknown dumbasses will stay unknown and not bother the rest of us.

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  21. hypocritical =b by fugu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He wants to stop fair use, but I'm guessing he doesn't hold the copyright for the picture of Emma Watson that he used in this post on his blog

    1. Re:hypocritical =b by quincunx55555 · · Score: 1

      What's scarier are his comments about how she'll be be turning 17 while in NY and will be the age of legal consent; and how she's already legal "across the pond". Sounds like a friggin' pediofile to me.

  22. name is a dead giveaway aka uncrook the crooked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, does anyone believe someone named 'CROOK' will do _anything_ honestly, even under court order?

  23. Michael Crook? by secolactico · · Score: 4, Informative

    I didn't know who the guy was so I looked him up.

    Man's a creep. So he posts pictures of men he baits on craiglist posing as a woman but his image should be considered off limits? Hypocrite, to say the least.

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Every action has a reaction. Play with the bull, get the horns. Crap, I just ran out of clichés.

    For those who can't access 10zenmonkey, you can read a short blurb here.

    Not sure why he got all worked up for that picture anyway. I look way worse on most of my photos. And usually with my eyes closed.

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    1. Re:Michael Crook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Every action has a reaction. Play with the bull, get the horns. Crap, I just ran out of clichés.
      What goes around comes around. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Pot, meet kettle. You reap what you sow. In Soviet Russia, women pose as you!
  24. not-yet-slashdotted-site with more story and photo by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can see why he wanted his photo removed permanently from the 'net: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/11/02/michael_crook _sends_.html

  25. Could have been worse by JonTurner · · Score: 2, Funny

    It could have been worse. Just image Goatse's video apology. (shudder!)

    1. Re:Could have been worse by deevnil · · Score: 1

      Maybe Jim Carey could do it.

  26. Next on the agenda... by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

    Viacom!

    1. Re:Next on the agenda... by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Viacom! Did you say that in a really deep voice?
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  27. scumbag by jdc180 · · Score: 2, Informative

    what a scumbag. He's creator of http://www.stopfairuse.info/

    Just what we need, He's bitching the the DMCA doesn't go FAR enough. He goes on national TV, and complains someone snapped a shot of it. Scumbag.

  28. Calling Attention to the Practice? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    That said, I think they *should* put up some kind of penalty for frivilous DMCA Takedown Notices, but if there is any such thing, I haven't seen it litigated.

    Maybe EFF is doing this to call attention to the flimsiness of DMCA takedown notices? Odds are I could get your accounts suspended right now if I sent your ISP a DMCA take-down notice without any backing.

    If people know this is going on they might think twice about acting like that. Hopefully it gets the attention of their corporate attorneys.

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  29. Aye! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I *hope* that people are seeing consequences for frivolous uses of the legal system, but unfortunately it's all too rare that I hear about them being stopped like this :(

    Actually, I wonder why people haven't sued for whatever losses they've suffered as a result of misguided or wrong notices? I'm guessing they couldn't find any actual damages that were worth enough to sue over, but it's still a pain in the ass.

    1. Re:Aye! by TheSkyIsPurple · · Score: 1

      I haven't been on the receiving end of a takedown notice, but I've been involved in other suits with clearly provable and serious perjury, and could even prove substantial damages.

      The problem is that it's far too expensive and risky. In one case, I could have shown damages of around $20,000, but because of the other party's legal "skills", it was estimated to cost me around $50,000 to litigate. (And that was trying to do it cheaply)

      Add to that the the other party didn't actually have the ability to pay my legal fees if I won, and there ya go. I could potentially win a $20,000 judgement if I spent at least $50,000 up front and no hope for recovery.

      Effectively they got away with it because they were "poor" enough.

  30. My God! Who is in that other picture next to him? by sgant · · Score: 1

    Is that Skeletor?

    I'm going to have nightmares tonight.

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  31. Okay...? by rmckeethen · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Humm, well, OK then -- Michael Crook says he's sorry. I'm just so thrilledto have this new information. I guess this is a victory for some website having to do with monkeys, and FOX News is somewhere in there too. Gee, well, huh. So there it is then. All right. Swell. Thanks.

    On second thought, can I have back the five minutes of my life I just wasted watching this apology?

    1. Re:Okay...? by Kamineko · · Score: 1

      Nope. I'm afraid not.

      You could always get the guy to apologize for his apology, though.

  32. Will he post my comment that pulls him up? by sn00ker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just posted a comment on that post, asking if he'd be willing to pay the copyright holder of that photo of Emma in order to make use of it. Will be interesting to see if he approves it.

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  33. Lie! by jma05 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This guy is a bare faced liar. He does not seem to have learned a bit about basic decency and continues to remain the perfect example of a "griefer".

    "I had an honest belief that one could control their image when it was used contrary to the original intent"

    And what was the original intent of the posters Crook tricked into giving their private pictures. It is unbelievable that he expects people to believed all this while doing the exact opposite. He must live in some kind of bizzaro world.

    "Who knew you can't control your own image?"

    Wasn't it the same confidence that one can't, that allowed him to do this in the first place? And yet when it comes to him the rules don't apply.

    "The appearance on Hannity and Colmes was very embarrassing for me"

    And I thought all along that he did not know the meaning of embarrassment. Or maybe, he just lacked empathy. For those out of the loop, he called the troops "scumbags" and "pukes" on his web site for which he was called to the show where he was completely unprepared to give any valid response. Other quotes from Crook on the soldiers - "What idiots risk their life for a country...? Let 'em die in combat - we don't need their ilk in this country!".

    "I firmly believe that he chose the photograph in an attempt to attack and unduly humiliate me"

    Unlike his compassionate treatment his victims? Crook said "he's enjoying exposing the perverts" and "pathetic men".

  34. Close, but not quite right by lorcha · · Score: 4, Informative

    Naturally you don't own the copyright to your image if someone else takes a picture of you and you sign a waiver giving up your copyright to that particular image and likeness.
    Whoever creates a work owns the copyright, unless the creator signs away the copyright (in the case of work for hire, etc.) So if I take a picture of you, your dog, even Michael Crook, I own the copyright on that image.

    What you are thinking about in your post is what's called a "model release". It's a little wrinkle in copyright law. It says that even though I own the copyright to anything I create, I can't use that photo commercially if there is a person who can be identified in the photo unless that person gives permission. But make no mistake about it. If I take a picture of you, I can display it wherever I want (including my webpage), as long as I'm not using it commercially, without your permission.

    This is why the newspaper can post your picture in an article, even if you object to it. It's called an "editorial" work.
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    1. Re:Close, but not quite right by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 1

      So, how does "To Catch a Predator" work? Or any other undercover journalism for that matter? I doubt the mechanic ripping off customers signs a consent form. I really doubt pervs busted for trying to make little girls fuck their cats give consent.

      In the cases above, and even your newspaper example, the work is being used as part of a commercial work. Newspapers sell ads. Therefore, the paper is making a profit off of my image.

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    2. Re:Close, but not quite right by mp3phish · · Score: 1

      This actually is not true. This loophole only works if it is in a public place and "anybody" could have taken the picture.

      If there is cooperation between the photographer and the people in the photo, ALL CONTRIBUTERS to the image are copyright holders. The photographer has no more or no less right to copy it than those in the image. Just as a model must sign rights over to the photographer (a verbal agreement is all that is needed legally) for the photographer to copy the image.

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    3. Re:Close, but not quite right by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      Just as a model must sign rights over to the photographer (a verbal agreement is all that is needed legally) for the photographer to copy the image.

      So wrong it's not funny. You might want to read the workings of more knowledgeable people than you (or I): http://www.danheller.com/model-release.html

      Some choice quotes:

      if you have no intent to ever sell or license your photos, you have nothing to worry about. (If you are still worried, go back and read the entire chapter.) Yes, you can even post these photos on a website. Where you can get into trouble is if you say something incorrect about the person or otherwise misrepresent him, and if this somehow damages him or his reputation, you're probably going to get a legal spanking. But this has nothing to do with model releases. It's all about libel, and that's pretty serious. Ironically, it's legal to do this in the context of TV broadcasting of negative political campaign ads, but other than that, you should act like an adult. (Er, you know.)

      So whether you like it or not, I as a photographer can take a picture of you and do whatever I like with it, particularly including copying it. (Within parameters such as misrepresentation, privacy, etc.)

      People who've had their photos taken and are upset about it, or who have their photos used in a way that doesn't make them happy. Of the vast number of emails I've had from people who fit into this category, there's only been one case where someone actually had a valid claim for how the image was used that was worth pursuing. In short, unless someone has used a photo of you in a commercial context (also discussed in this chapter) or has violated your privacy, you can't do a whole lot about it. The sadder part is, even for those who may have a valid claim, the infringements are usually so small that doing anything about it would be too costly to bother with. A major part of this chapter is the section on the Risk/Reward Analysis.
    4. Re:Close, but not quite right by Myopic · · Score: 1

      Where is the line drawn around the word "commercial"? I mean, if publishing a photo in a newspaper which costs money isn't "commercial", nor on an ad-supported website, then what is "commercial"? (I know that using the image in an advertisement is "commercial", but I don't know where the line is.)

  35. A Crook AND a sleaze by sn00ker · · Score: 1
    One of his latest blog posts has a picture of Emma Watson of Harry Potter fame, pointing out that in a month's time she'll be 17 - the age of sexual consent in New York State.

    Sure she's attractive, but that's just disgusting!

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    1. Re:A Crook AND a sleaze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I bet he would claim fair use if she tried to force him to take it down.

    2. Re:A Crook AND a sleaze by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      This is pretty far off topic, but I remember a similar thing here in the UK a few years ago (ok, probably 10 or more years...). One of the sleazier tabloids had "discovered" this 15 year old girl with huge boobs, and was teasing its readership with scantily-clad pictures of her in the run-up to her 16th birthday (age of sexual consent in the UK). I remember the day before they ran with a large photo of her on the front page, bare-chested apart from a finger covering each nipple, and a headline something like "Tomorrow she's TOPLESS!".

      Meanwhile, they were joining in the general tabloid frenzy about paedophiles.

      That day the last dregs of my respect for the British tabloids withered and died (not that there was much left by then anyway).

    3. Re:A Crook AND a sleaze by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      in the run-up to her 16th birthday (age of sexual consent in the UK). I remember the day before they ran with a large photo of her on the front page, bare-chested apart from a finger covering each nipple, and a headline something like "Tomorrow she's TOPLESS!". Meanwhile, they were joining in the general tabloid frenzy about paedophiles. Is this legal any more? I'm sure that they changed the law at some stage so that topless photos of under-18s (at least in the papers) weren't allowed.

      FWIW, it would have been far sleazier if the girl had looked like she was 12 or 13 with a flat chest, and they were doing the same stunt.

      Okay; the age consent laws- both for photography and intercourse- are (supposedly) in place for the protection of the child, and anyone actually f****** a 15-year old knowing his/her age probably should be locked up. (*)

      However, since teenagers can look quite a bit older or younger than their real age, it's kind of meaningless to say that someone getting turned on by someone under the age of consent is necessarily a paedophile. (Let's not get into that pedantic discussion over what "paedophile" actually covers). Whilst I accept that the papers were typically two-faced and hysterical over genuine paedophilia, I don't think that implying that a large-breasted 15-year-old may be sexually attractive is really paedophilic.

      Let me put it this way; which is "worse"- someone being turned on by a 15 year old who looks 18, or the same person being turned on by a 17 year old who looks 14? (Especially bearing in mind that he may not know their real ages).

      (*) With IMHO one exception being if the person in question was (e.g.) 16 or 17 themselves. Frankly, a 16-year-old boy being locked up for sleeping with his 15-year-old girlfriend would be a travesty of justice. A 30-year-old doing the same thing would be somewhat different.
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  36. More Michael Crook Fun by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

    Here's some Michale Crook fun at Fark: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink =2390696

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  37. You dont need to... by Duhavid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Your parents, on the other hand....

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  38. Next to Colmes.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he doesn't look that bad!

  39. Libel anyone? by LiENUS · · Score: 1

    Just looking at his post regarding this. I wonder if theres now a libel case given the slander he openly and directly makes.

  40. mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad that I'm not the only one who noticed this little discrepancy in his "logic".

  41. No Wikipedia page. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone should do a Wikipedia page on him. Net kooks hate that, coz they can't control what is says. LOL!

    1. Re:No Wikipedia page. by Gunslinger47 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Someone should do a Wikipedia page on him.
      No, no they should not.
    2. Re:No Wikipedia page. by geoffspear · · Score: 1

      I think this latest incident probably makes him notable enough for a Wikipedia article, and I'm a committed Deletionist. Notice that the last AFD of his article was last May.

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  42. Re:My God! Who is in that other picture next to hi by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, it's Colmes. Or did you mean...

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  43. 22 Short Films About Emo Kids by Keith+Russell · · Score: 1

    Hey, everybody! Look at this -- it's that boy who throws DMCA takedown notices at everyone. Let's laugh at him!

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  44. Obligatory by superstuntguy · · Score: 0

    My mother was a DMCA abuser you insensitive clod!

  45. Why couldn't he get himself off? by MikeRT · · Score: 2, Funny

    Getting yourself off and jail are not mutually exclusive. It happens all the time in prison. Usually some guy named bubba is even there to help you!

  46. Dude looks like The Crow by Hohlraum · · Score: 1

    "People once believed that when someone dies, a crow carries their soul to the land of the dead. But sometimes, something so bad happens that a terrible sadness is carried with it and the soul can't rest. Then sometimes, just sometimes, the crow can bring that soul back to put the wrong things right."

    http://edified.org/external/crook

    hahahahahaha

  47. Here, let me correct that for you by sn00ker · · Score: 1

    The MAFIAA seem to have bought bi-partisan support.
    There, isn't that better?
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  48. Here's a link by ZDRuX · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a link to the bogus DMCA takedown notice he sent out. http://www.boingboing.net/images/dmca-boing-boing- nov-1.doc

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  49. Dear /. editors by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

    Please invite Mr. Crook to an interview, talking about the apology and his views on the abolishment of fair use rights. I think we all need a good vocal idiot to tear apart right about now.

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    1. Re:Dear /. editors by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      Fuck yeah! Let the scumbag tell "his side!" It's gotta be better than the other shit we see on a slow news day.

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  50. This guy is not normal by JayAEU · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Has anybody actually read what he says in his blog?

    Taken from http://www.michaelcrook.org/thedmcacase.html, where he's talking about this (http://www.michaelcrook.org/extrafiles/crook.jpg) screenshot of his:

    "And hey, I rather like this screenshot. It makes me look like Hitler and shit. Cool beans-- it was exactly the statement I was trying to make."

    I'm still sitting here with my jaw hanging down after having read this! I think not only should he be sent to a basic lesson of copyright law, but also to a history lesson focussing on WW2!

    1. Re:This guy is not normal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about that. I reckon a cross between Hitler and shit will look pretty much like, well, shit.

    2. Re:This guy is not normal by Chrisje · · Score: 1

      He also mentions he has a spouse!

      I wonder who he drugged for that one, and secondly I pity the man/woman/induhvidual.

    3. Re:This guy is not normal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He also believes that the moon landing and the haulocaust did not happen.

    4. Re:This guy is not normal by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      This is also about when I started to really notice -- and get annoyed by -- the fact that his site uses JavaScript to filter out clicks (right or left), in an attempt to avoid you selecting text to copy and paste, or right-click+copy on any images or something.

      I mean, just wow.

      I see that maybe once a year -- some moron who tries to prevent you from copying something directly from a website through some sort of javascript hack. Other examples include a site which offered "encryption", wherein they have some JavaScript decrypt the entire page and document.write it out, including the same kind of anti-clicking prevention -- at least that one wasn't vulnerable to "view source", although several common Firefox extensions make it ludicrously easy to rip out the entire HTML, and I'm sure I could roll a GreaseMonkey script (if I properly understand what that is) to do the same.

      In general, the kinds of people who do this are, I guess, people like him -- people who are actually so pathetically paranoid that someone might steal their content that they're willing to give up any other rights that might get in the way.

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  51. 'editorial' use by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Informative

    In the cases above, and even your newspaper example, the work is being used as part of a commercial work. Newspapers sell ads. Therefore, the paper is making a profit off of my image.

    It's called "editorial use," and that's a specific case. An image that illustrates news or editorial information is different than an image that is sold as the image. So, selling a poster of you is different than publishing an article about you that happens to include your image. It's a little vague, because it has to be, but most people know editorial usage when they see it.

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    1. Re:'editorial' use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So wait..if I take porn pics of my ex-wife getting fucked by a goat and I release them in an "informational" describing how to give a goat a boner then its ok? Smashing baby! Now to get it to show up as first Google search result...muhahaha

    2. Re:'editorial' use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am intrigued. Do you have a newsletter?

  52. Re:Balki by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    What do you have against Bronson Pinchot, who has been acting since his role as Balki?

  53. guilt vs. shame by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

    Many people pooh-pooh the distinction, but I think this is a perfect case. He has no *guilt* for what he's done: he doesn't feel badly about any of it because he thinks everything he did was justified. He has tremendous *shame* being heaped on him because everyone else can see that he's a bottom-feeding hypocrite. He is embarrassed because he's ashamed.

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  54. Egotist..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    Wow. This guy realy is desparate to make a name for himself. So much that his website is clearly a desparate attempt to make his name a household name, and one that is something people will talk about like he is some kind of hero.

    Ironically, the settlement was a bigger, more effective takedown than his notices were.

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  55. Apologetic by Sloppy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From here:

    In total, this case had to have cost the EFF at least $46,000 in attorney's fees and costs, whereas all I will have spent after the copyright courses is $215.00. Sometimes, not being wealthy rocks. Not being wealthy sucks when you're at the strip club, and down to your last $20 just when the girl is willing to "do a little more".

    It's good to see that he has learned his lesson, instead of revelling in the destruction caused by the inefficiencies of the legal system.

    What a seriously evil asshole.

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    1. Re:Apologetic by splatter · · Score: 1



      Yeah I saw the post with him laughing about spending $215.. Not after the bandwidth bill comes in for the month.

      LOL

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  56. Fucking flash by JThundley · · Score: 1

    wget blip.tv/file/get/10zenmonkeys-DearInternetImSorry6 75.flv

  57. My favorite comment on this topic... by gwoodrow · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...isn't from slashdot. It's the last part of this page:

    "I can foresee a day when this community of nihilistic pranksters hold its first convention, and they spend a week at the Marriott sneaking up on each other, flicking each other's ears and laughing until they drool."

  58. Myself needs to teach this guy a lesson... by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

    I can't stand Crook's misuse of the word "myself" in the video. I bet his lawyers had him put it in to make him sound smarter, though it had the opposite effect:

    I: Subject. The person who is doing the action. I went to the doctor's office; Sally and I went to the doctor's office.
    Me: Object. The person who is receiving the action. The doctor came to me; the doctor came to Sally and me.
    Myself: Reflexive. When you are the receiver of an action you are doing. Nobody else can do something to yourself--THIS IS NOT JUST A FANCY FORM OF "ME"! I touched myself while I was sitting by myself; Sally injured herself.

    Sorry, I had to get that out of my system. If it weren't so late, I'd have used examples from the video.

    - RG>

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    1. Re:Myself needs to teach this guy a lesson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet his lawyers had him put it in to make him sound smarter

      He didn't have lawyers and brags he wrote most of it himself.

  59. tl;dr by vonsneerderhooten · · Score: 1

    ssia

  60. And he is back to gloating! by jma05 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As mentioned earlier, the apology was a sham.

    On his blog, he returns back to gloating
    - that he recorded the video to just get out of the case
    - that it didn't cost him much.
    - that he got free publicity that would otherwise have cost him
    - that he will go back to his old ways.

    "but the DMCA is but one of the many tools available these days. This was merely a battle in the war"

    http://www.michaelcrook.org/thedmcacase.html

  61. Wrong by zoomshorts · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Whoever creates a work owns the copyright, unless the creator signs away the copyright (in the case of work for hire, etc.) So if I take a picture of you, your dog, even Michael Crook, I own the copyright on that image." IF I am a public figure, I have no right or expectation to privacyy. Should I not be a public figure, or person of note, Then I OWN MY IMAGE and you need a release to publish.

    This is NOT rocket science.. If I appear in public, that changes the outcome.

    1. Re:Wrong by Sobrique · · Score: 1

      If I appear in public, ...
      What, so you mean like, walking down the street?
    2. Re:Wrong by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      IF I am a public figure, I have no right or expectation to privacyy.

      So explain why actors sign releases when they appear in films. Or how they can successfully sue paparazzi; surely there must be some legal basis for that, don't you think (This is logic calling long distance. Will you accept the call)?

      Frankly, I do think public figures have a right to privacy, if only for the sake of their families: the last thing we need is more kids growing up famous and turning into multiple Paris Hiltons (seriously, why does the world even give a fuck about that vapid exhibitionist stick-insect?). In fact, I'd go so far as to demand privacy for some public figures! As much privacy as possible, as soon as possible, and preferrably the welded-inside-a-steel-box-weighted-with-anchors-an d-dropped-into-the-Mariana-Trench kind of privacy.

      Should I not be a public figure, or person of note, Then I OWN MY IMAGE and you need a release to publish.

      Wrong, and your opinion differs from both copyright legislation and case law. You own your face, but not any photographic reproductions of your face you didn't commission, so if I take a photo of you walking down the street and put it on an otherwise neutral web page there's no law you can invoke to stop me (nominate any you like, and if they aren't obviously ridiculous I'll explain why you're wrong and provide case law examples). On the other hand, if I add something libellous or misrepresent you in any way (by adding the caption "President of the American Copraphilia Association", for example*, or claiming you endorse a product) you have grounds for legal action.

      The misconception you're subscribing to is that a release form is necessary because a person in a photo retains the rights to that photo. Wrong: as far as the law is concerned, a photo (like any other work) is owned by the person who caused it to be made, regardless of whether the subject is a tree, a rock, or another person. The difference is that you can't plausibly claim a tree has opinions, and a rock can't feel that its privacy has been invaded.

      If I appear in public, that changes the outcome.

      Indeed it does. The instant you set foot outside your door, you're appearing in public (the AC had it right, even if he thought he was joking); this applies to you the same as any celebrity you care to name.

      The fact is you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place; that's what "public" means. If you need the concept explained further, I'd suggest walking down the street naked and asking the first police officer you see.

      *Hoping like hell that isn't true!

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    3. Re:Wrong by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      the AC had it right, even if he thought he was joking

      My apologies, Sobrique; I glanced at the wrong thread. But you are correct, even if I didn't credit you properly.

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    4. Re:Wrong by phliar · · Score: 1

      Should I not be a public figure, or person of note, Then I OWN MY IMAGE and you need a release to publish.
      This is not absolute. If you are out walking on the street you have no expectation of privacy; anyone can take your photograph without your permission. It's commercial use of your image that requires a model release form. If the image can be considered news-worthy, then no release is required for the photo to accompany the story, even though the press is a commercial entity and the story makes money for the paper.
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    5. Re:Wrong by gfreeman · · Score: 1

      Or in this case, appearing on Fox - which is broadcast publicly.

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  62. FOX white-man magic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should have just claimed FOX "stole his sole" and counter-sued (fox white-man have heap magic you know).

    Thanks,

    Anonymous

    1. Re:FOX white-man magic by Notquitecajun · · Score: 1

      That's an interesting way to get some Birkenstocks. I'm gonna start running around with my camera and start a shoe store!

      Sorry. I'm guessing you meant "soul."

  63. A GNAA troll by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    I happened to be be in an IRC channel were one also hang out, or claimed to be one anyway, and he was very proud for posting the troll that the GNAA does (or used too).

    Yet one day he was ranting about how some guy was wasting his bandwidth on his site by downloading the same thing over and over again.

    Griefers, bullies and their like can dish it out but they can't take it. This is absolutly nothing different from criminals who abuse their victims without mercy and then complain when the police is a bit too rough.

    But in a way we are lucky in this case, all too easily the press could have just gone the usuall "awh, the poor victim" route and taken his side. See the movie "dead man walking" and wonder why it isn't a two parter, the second part being called "dead woman walking" following the last days of the man's victim.

    I am rather bemused by how easily people seem to give up on the idea of privacy however, remember all the outrage about that ousted blogger a few days ago?

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  64. Funny..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    If you visit Crook's blog page, it shows a video of Emma Watson, with the following caption:

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    Of course, it will be made into a movie eventually, and one of the stars, to the left, is Emma Watson.

    On April 15th, she will be legal in New York State, where the age of consent is 17.

    Just sayin' is all. She's already legal across the pond."
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    Being *SUCH* a legal genius, I'm sure Michael knows that just because someone is of the age of consent does not mean that they are not a MINOR.

    If this guy is so against perverts, why is he posting crap like that? Explicitly implying to have sex with her, even though she is a M-I-N-O-R ? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the guy who went out of his way to humiliate people who went on Craigslst looking for sex? Apparently, looking for sex is morally wrong, yet announcing that at minor has reached the age of consent at 17 and that she "...is legal" is not.

    Hmmm.....

    Clearly, this poor aminal is in need of medication..... by that only the .45 caliber easy-to-swallow kind can cure.

    The real pathetic part is if you look at the upper-left part of his webwite where is has a less-than-flattering picture of him, with comments next to it. Every time the page reloads, the comments change. I was trying it out just to see what kind of crap he claims people say about him when the following comment appeared right next to his picture:

    "'Mike is bringing sexy back!'-- D.B."

    Michael Crook: A Living Tribute To Pathetic Wannabees.

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  65. His contact page... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    (Have to give credit to an AC buried farther down for pointing out his contact page...)

    In addition to the phone # you've provided, here's a fax #: (315) 663-3036

    He also seems to use IM a bit, he's got an AIM account (MikeFromSyracuse), an MSN Messenger account (mike@silentmike.us), and a Yahoo account (mikechatcny).

    Oh, and his "email me" page doesn't have so much as a CAPTCHA on it.

    You should note that I'm not advocating spamming the living shit out of his ugly, pathetic, lying ass. Indeed, I would never even suggest that you do the digital equivalent of ass-raping his ISP with a railroad spike! I'm just blatantly telling you what you need to know, should you ever hypothetically do such a thing, even though you won't, of course. Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more!

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  66. RTFA! For the love of... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    There were no nude pics! EVER!

    He just made an ass of himself on some TV interview, then tried to prevent them from airing it. He might be close to having a case if he xeroxed his ass or something, but it's not even that close -- it was an interview conducted solely for the purpose of being disseminated, and he knew that.

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  67. Don't feed the troll by Harlow_B_Ashur · · Score: 1

    Come on, this is not news. That sierra foxtrot is a non-entity who will resort to whatever it takes to get attention of any polarity.

    One would think that Slashdot -- after Fark, Drudge, and the 'internet' had covered this already ad nauseam -- would have chosen to ignore this.

  68. about half the story by tacokill · · Score: 1

    Lets not forget, they also have the cameras...

    That's important if you are a politician who has to get re-elected to keep your job.

  69. Re:Balki by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

    I don't think he was actually acting in Winning Girls Through Psychic Mind Control

  70. Well, it has to be said. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know the guy is one of those people who don't care if the publicity is good or bad, as long as it's publicity.

    That said, isn't he a handsome man? I mean considering the horrific stroke he looks like he's suffered.

  71. noob question: by roscocoltran · · Score: 1

    What's the meaning of the "slashdotted" tag ?

    1. Re:noob question: by ShadowsHawk · · Score: 1

      It means the page was hit by so many 'slashdotters' that it went down.

  72. ugly mugly! by dotmax · · Score: 1
    What a horrible cranio-facial assymetry he has. Maybe he was just ... not in his right mind!

    .max

  73. LOL @ U by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, he's trolling EVERYONE. The guy is hilarious.

    Besides, I bet a lot of you are pissed off because you're creeps who use craigslist to find girls, and you could've been caught by him. :P

    I loved that whole craigslist thing, those idiots who got caught by him had it coming.

  74. Still not quite right. by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 2, Informative

    Being a film and television producer who deals with this kind of stuff on a regular basis, I should point out the errors in your post. If what you're claiming were true every paparazzo would be up to their necks in litigation, since making money off unauthorized photos is their business.

    What you are thinking about in your post is what's called a "model release". It's a little wrinkle in copyright law.

    It isn't part of copyright law at all: people's faces are not subject to copyright (and if they were, the rights to your face would be owned by your parents, since they commissioned the work, so to speak).

    It says that even though I own the copyright to anything I create, I can't use that photo commercially if there is a person who can be identified in the photo unless that person gives permission.

    Care to cite the clause in copyright legislation or case law that says that?

    Copyright doesn't restrict the use of an image by the rights holder in any way at all (where do people keep getting the word "commercial" from? Copyright ownership is neither enhanced or diminished by commercial exploitation). However, if the image is used in a defamatory manner, attributes fake product endorsements or otherwise misrepresents the individual, or violates a reasonable expectation of privacy the individual can sue. A release form is simply an agreement not to sue, and as such falls under contractual law.

    Example 1: the NBC "Today" show can do their weather report outside the studio because the assembled audience have no reasonable expectation of privacy (Rockerfeller Plaza is a public space). No release forms required, even though individuals are clearly identifiable in a commercial broadcast.

    Example 2: watch any news report about obesity that uses footage shot in public, and you'll see people from the neck down. This is because it is apparently defamatory to identify a lard-arse as "fat" (unless they've signed a release like the contestants on "The Biggest Loser").

    Example 3: an actor plays a character in a film, but then refuses to sign a release. Does that prevent the film being released? No, because an actor invited onto a film set has no expectation of privacy, and by playing a character they aren't representing themself, thereby eliminating the question of misrepresentation or defamation. The actor could sue claiming that the editing was done in such a way as to make them look incompetent, but then they risk having the unedited footage presented in court and their incompetence proven (BTW, all this is paraphrased from my response to a genuine nastygram I received from an agent, based on advice from two entertainment industry specialist lawyers and a professor of legal studies. No, I don't mess around; getting it wrong could cost me thousands of dollars). Again, copyright doesn't enter into it.

    If I take a picture of you, I can display it wherever I want (including my webpage), as long as I'm not using it commercially, without your permission.

    Copyright law does not distinguish between commercial and non-profit use in this regard; whoever owns the rights owns the rights, period. If I make money off a photo of you without your permission you may have a basis to sue if I'd expressly said the photo wasn't for commercial use, but again that's contractual law, not copyright (and even then you only have a claim if your identity is central to the image and you weren't in a public area at the time).

    This is why the newspaper can post your picture in an article, even if you object to it. It's called an "editorial" work.

    There's no law protecting aesthetic sensibilities, so there is no basis for litigation if anyone publishes a legitimately acquired image you find objectionable. "Public interest" is a fair use defence for publication of unauthorised material which must be argued in court if challenged, so wherever possible news outlets try to avoid it.

    You were initially right in saying "whoever creates a work owns the

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  75. +1 Informative by alienmole · · Score: 1

    Thanks!

  76. Choice selections from Crook's blog by brianjcain · · Score: 1
    I have the God-given right to get drunk when and where I choose, and party when and how I choose. Ever since I became a parent, I've had to be "responsible", and not drink excessively if at all. Parents can't do that. And that sucks. I'm 29, man. Do you know how wrong that is?
    I'm 29 (and a parent). It doesn't seem wrong to me at all.
    I simply don't look at her as my daughter. She's only that biologically as far as I'm concerned. I'm disgusted that she still runs to me, smiles, and says "Daddy!"
    That's sad.
    I rather like this screenshot. It makes me look like Hitler and shit. Cool beans -- it was exactly the statement I was trying to make.
    That's scary.
  77. It's called a "model release"... by bwcbwc · · Score: 1

    If he'd used the right laws (contract vs. copyright) he may have had a case. Not so much to prevent publication, but for a share of any profits being made.

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    We are the 198 proof..
    1. Re:It's called a "model release"... by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 1

      That kind of puts a crimp in his strategy of (ab)using the Digital Millennium Copyright Act to issue takedown notices, no?

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  78. "Who knew you couldn't control your own image?" by Myopic · · Score: 1

    "Who knew you couldn't control your own image?"

    Well, the rest of us did.

  79. I double disagree by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

    Did you go to school? Did you remember there being a bully called Joe or whatever? Joe gets pulled in for bullying. Perhaps he got publicly humilated: "Class, Joe has been very bad. He has something he wants to say to John". Mumble, mumble.... "Soooory John". Ten minutes later when the teacher isn't looking, Joe smacks John.

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  80. Ya, he learned his lesson all right... by BillX · · Score: 1

    More choice tidbits appear in the posts he makes to his own forum. (Note, this copy is, erm, fair use.)

    "While I will adhere to the terms set forth in the settlement agreement, I should point out that I have no qualms about doing what needs to be done to silence those who dare disagree with me, provided that it doesn't run afoul of the settlement agreement. ...

    But, I don't apologize for my tactics beyond the DMCAs. And I have tons of them. These very same tactics are used by respectable companies and third party "bone crushers" to take care of problems. The problem being those that use critical speech against their respective companies, or in my case, against me.

    That can't stand. It just can't.

    Companies like Microsoft do it. That makes it okay.

    And again, there are many more ways to deal with dissenters besides the DMCA. Many more."

    Ye flipping gods kid, take your meds.

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  81. Wow. by Workaphobia · · Score: 1

    Wow. Just fucking wow. I wish I were caught up on my slashdot reading when this article was posted so I could have responded in a timely manner, but as it is I still have four days left to go through. (Spring break'll do that to you, I guess.)

    I find the whole situation among the most comical I've seen in months.

    > "Who knew you can't control your own image?"

    I like this part, and how the camera shot changes during this sentence - it's a brief window into his outrage and disbelief that the law does not function the way he wanted it to. Whereas the rest of the speech is forced by the settlement, this is where he gets to mitigate the damage it did to his ego.

    After I watched the full apology video (by the way, I am particularly disgusted at the first commenter in this article and the people who modded him funny), I watched the Hannity and Colmes video and couldn't stop laughing. I honestly do not understand why Crook was embarassed by this video, since Hannity easily overpowered him in his bid to be the King Bastard. I knew political shows were full of crap, but I was always under the belief that they were required to maintain a baseline of decency and abstraction from the core name-calling. I guess modern America doesn't have the capacity to appreciate a well-formed insult. It's rather sad that a man can invite scum onto his show and end up still looking worse by comparison.

    I also liked how Crook argues against free speech while employing its ideals. I don't mean in terms of the rhetoric of "Support our troops or give up your rights" - I mean how he is against all forms of fair use and commented that a world full of IP censorship would be utopia.

    Well, I had better stop laughing and eat dinner.

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