I'm calling BS on this on your post. Your indignation seems contrived...but I'll respond anyway. This is not a sexual harassment scenario. It's pretty well established by now that women are rare in the computer industry simply because they're not interested in computers...not because of hostile workplaces. You think geeky men are sexually hostile? Go work for a stock broker or a car dealership.
My point was that nobody is complaining about this. It's the MS PR department trying to cater to the lowest common denominator...prudish American women who get offended at sex or drug references. Men usually don't care as much.
I'm sorry to say we have no excuse for this silly little song, other than that we have a different culture and couldn't care less about offending "sensitive" foreigners:)
And you shouldn't. But as an American, I'm wondering where all these sensitive American are? Who are these prigs who are offended by this? I couldn't care less about it either? We're in an industry composed mostly of men...I get a feeling this is something that the MS PR department alone is freaking out about...because some little old church lady might see this and get offended and...what?...start using Linux?!?!? I don't know.
One scenario is the Earth overrun by killer robots bent on revenge for the time after we created them as our slaves
I'm on board, but I think we would actually have more luck achieving our goal if you kept this to yourself and let others make the persuasive arguments instead.
Oh, if you're using ODBC, make sure to run the 32-bit ODBC Data Source Administrator when setting up your DSNs. If you set them up in the one you see under Administrative Tools, VB can't see them.
- Be sure UAC is off or on it's lowest setting.
- The VB installation doesn't always work. Generally I google "vb6" and then the error message and I find a work around. You can get it to work...the answers are out there.
- When you select multiple controls on a form designer and try to move them, it goes really really really slow.
- Microsoft broke ADO's COM interface in Win7sp1 last year. http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/windowsgeneraldevelopmentissues/thread/3a4ce946-effa-4f77-98a6-34f11c6b5a13 When you try to run a program that's early bound to ADO and been compiled on a Win 7 machine, and then install it on an older 32bit OS, all your ADO calls will throw automation errors. We worked around it by compiling the VB code on XP machines before moving to our dev servers. There's no problem compiling on an older machine and running it on a new machine though. This is only a problem if you're early bound to ADO though.
- Form designers occasionally get weird visual artifacts on them when selecting controls by clicking and dragging the mouse.
- Be sure to google for the vb6 scroll wheel fix. It's almost intolerable to use without the scroll wheel.
- You might have some issues if your program accesses certain portions of your registry or file system. Win 7 restricts some areas. Might be less of a problem with UAC off. I can't remember the specific areas though. The root of the C drive is off limits now I think.
- Compiling a COM object will automatically register it to the location you compiled it. This might not be possible with UAC on. Haven't tried it with UAC on, but regsvr32.exe won't run properly with UAC on, so I'm assuming VB can't register anything either.
VB6 Staying power is also due to this fact: anybody can do programming with it. You don't need to get formal education in development to use VB6.
Um, anybody can program with any language. It doesn't take a degree to write code in C++. Most of the kiddy coders these days aren't using VB anymore, they're using C#.
Just more of the same elitist abuse it's been getting for over a decade. The fact that the summary attacks the people who use it more than the language itself should tell you something. Yeah, it's not for power users, and it's not as elegant as some other languages, but it can do 99% of what people need it to do. And it's at least as fast or faster as it's.net descendants...if you know what you're doing.
It's the only movie I've ever walked out on. Why? Because the very idea of being arrested and convicted of a crime you haven't yet convicted pissed me off to the point where I couldn't stand to watch another minute, so I left.
Analysis: Citizen has excessive anger issues, and is distrustful of authority.
Recommendation: Citizen should be administered Thorazine daily via dart shot from drone aircraft.
A million times this. I'm a Wikipedia junky (obligatory xkcd [xkcd.com]) that searches things out of raw curiosity with no applicable reason whatsoever.
As am I. I've googled everything from how to make a nuclear bomb to necrophilia porn to how to make poisons, to how to start start a revolution, to how to hack computers....just to see what's out there.
As of this time, I have not built a nuke, collected any corpse porn, made any poison, overthrown any governments, or hacked any computers. I do write science fiction stories though, and I find this jumble of knowledge in my head is quite useful for concocting all sorts of interesting stories. No, I'm not published, no I don't write often, and I'm not any good either. I'd like to be though. And being able to research whatever I want might one day make that possible. If I have to start worrying about whether or not my searches look suspicious, it's just going to make me search out anonymizers, or another search engine....because you bet your ass my search strings look suspicious.
Researching Islam in one search, then researching America's power distribution infrastructure in another is going to pop up on someone's radar...but I've done that. They're not going to take into consideration that I'm an atheist and have absolutely no interest in destroying America aside from why and how a terrorist might do it. They'll just kick down my door and disappear my computers for a couple of years.
I don't disagree but enough FUD is coming off the surveillance orders without a bunch of hyper sensitive politically motivated individuals running around adding to it; a well thought out and moderated approach is the only viable answer.
A well thought out and moderated approach is what happens when enough hyper sensitive politically motivated individuals make enough noise. Otherwise, the issue is ignored. This is exactly our politics works in America today.
I see teachers driving around in their audis and BMWs, I drive a golf.
Umm, we've already established this website's figures are way off. And if you're a 6 year software engineer and can only afford a Golf, you need a new job. BMWs and Audis really aren't that expensive if you don't have any dependents.
Maybe so, but how much does a dev job pay there? I'd imagine not much more than that.
What's the relevance? My point is, he is clearly exaggerating to support his argument. Why not use average pool boy salaries in Beverly Hills as an example of national pool boy salaries? Because it's a number that's too skewed by the localized wealth to have anything to do with the national average.
When I look at teachers pay I have no problem calling it high. How about $93k/year [teacherssalary.net] in Boulder, CO. $80-ish in surrounding communities like Longmont, and Fort Collins. $75k in Madison, WI where they're trying to recall Walker today.
Boulder is an expensive place to live, but I have a hard time believing the average public school teachers is $93k. Are you sure this isn't taking into consideration private schools and UofC? And it's interesting that you didn't take into consideration the most obvious adjacent community...Denver...which averages $32k less than boulder. And you lied, Longmont and Fort Collins average around $69k according to this website, not $80ish.
Nice to know we can afford to build spy satellites that we don't need. We have our priorities straight.
Does this really surprise you? You need to take another look at how much money is spent on the military and black budget stuff. These satellites are a drop in the ocean.
From a different article on this I read earlier today, it would seem that the fact that it was designed for wider views actually helps it for certain tasks - monitoring for supernovae, for instance.
That would likely be a waste of an orbital telescope. We have lots and lots of ground based scopes already watching for this. You can do this with really small scopes. Amateurs do a lot of it. We also have telescopes arrays that are specifically designed for covering large parts of the sky very quickly, they're better suited to this kind of duty.
It is confusing why some animals are protected & their killing outlawed,
It's really no more complicated than this: Cute animals are protected. They're protected because people get outraged when an animal with an attractive face is harmed, and a politician can create a law protecting them and get some votes. That's all there is too it.
Lightning is a common phenomenon. They would have seen it frequently...many times a year. But in this instant there was fire in the sky and dragons. What made this noteworthy? It certainly wasn't dragons. It's not said. My point is, it's not an accurate report of what was seen. Something probably happened...but we're left interpreting it many different ways. Could have just been a violent thunderstorm with lots of lightning that moved over the area of the observer. "Fiery and Dragons" could mean a comet, or meteor...could have been witnessed during the storm, or at some other point of the year...or it could be someone's fear induced imagination during a particularly violent thunderstorm. "immense sheets of light rushing through the air" - this could mean auroras, or again, just very violent lightning. Could have happened during the storm, or at some other time.
Interesting, but probably not a very reliable text. Like so:
A.D. 789. This year Elwald, king of the Northumbrians, was slain
by Siga, on the eleventh day before the calends of October; and a
heavenly light was often seen on the spot where he was slain.
or so:
A.D. 793. This year came dreadful fore-warnings over the land of
the Northumbrians, terrifying the people most woefully: these
were immense sheets of light rushing through the air, and
whirlwinds, and fiery, dragons flying across the firmament.
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I'm calling BS on this on your post. Your indignation seems contrived...but I'll respond anyway. This is not a sexual harassment scenario. It's pretty well established by now that women are rare in the computer industry simply because they're not interested in computers...not because of hostile workplaces. You think geeky men are sexually hostile? Go work for a stock broker or a car dealership.
My point was that nobody is complaining about this. It's the MS PR department trying to cater to the lowest common denominator...prudish American women who get offended at sex or drug references. Men usually don't care as much.
I'm sorry to say we have no excuse for this silly little song, other than that we have a different culture and couldn't care less about offending "sensitive" foreigners :)
And you shouldn't. But as an American, I'm wondering where all these sensitive American are? Who are these prigs who are offended by this? I couldn't care less about it either? We're in an industry composed mostly of men...I get a feeling this is something that the MS PR department alone is freaking out about...because some little old church lady might see this and get offended and...what?...start using Linux?!?!? I don't know.
One scenario is the Earth overrun by killer robots bent on revenge for the time after we created them as our slaves
I'm on board, but I think we would actually have more luck achieving our goal if you kept this to yourself and let others make the persuasive arguments instead.
Oh, if you're using ODBC, make sure to run the 32-bit ODBC Data Source Administrator when setting up your DSNs. If you set them up in the one you see under Administrative Tools, VB can't see them.
It's located here: Windows\SysWoW64\Odbcad32.exe
Sure. Let's see.
- Be sure UAC is off or on it's lowest setting. - The VB installation doesn't always work. Generally I google "vb6" and then the error message and I find a work around. You can get it to work...the answers are out there.
- When you select multiple controls on a form designer and try to move them, it goes really really really slow.
- Microsoft broke ADO's COM interface in Win7sp1 last year. http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/windowsgeneraldevelopmentissues/thread/3a4ce946-effa-4f77-98a6-34f11c6b5a13 When you try to run a program that's early bound to ADO and been compiled on a Win 7 machine, and then install it on an older 32bit OS, all your ADO calls will throw automation errors. We worked around it by compiling the VB code on XP machines before moving to our dev servers. There's no problem compiling on an older machine and running it on a new machine though. This is only a problem if you're early bound to ADO though.
- Form designers occasionally get weird visual artifacts on them when selecting controls by clicking and dragging the mouse.
- Be sure to google for the vb6 scroll wheel fix. It's almost intolerable to use without the scroll wheel.
- You might have some issues if your program accesses certain portions of your registry or file system. Win 7 restricts some areas. Might be less of a problem with UAC off. I can't remember the specific areas though. The root of the C drive is off limits now I think.
- Compiling a COM object will automatically register it to the location you compiled it. This might not be possible with UAC on. Haven't tried it with UAC on, but regsvr32.exe won't run properly with UAC on, so I'm assuming VB can't register anything either.
That's about all I can think of off hand.
I think VB5 also supported COM
Support began in VB4.
VB6 Staying power is also due to this fact: anybody can do programming with it. You don't need to get formal education in development to use VB6.
Um, anybody can program with any language. It doesn't take a degree to write code in C++. Most of the kiddy coders these days aren't using VB anymore, they're using C#.
Just more of the same elitist abuse it's been getting for over a decade. The fact that the summary attacks the people who use it more than the language itself should tell you something. Yeah, it's not for power users, and it's not as elegant as some other languages, but it can do 99% of what people need it to do. And it's at least as fast or faster as it's .net descendants...if you know what you're doing.
I thought there were major compatibility problems with the VS98/VB6 IDE on Windows 7
There are some annoying little problems. But you can work around them and/or tolerate them.
It is a platform for unstable applications. VB6 Apps have a tendencies of getting corrupted and random deaths where you need to reinstall them.
Been using it since release. This is total BS. It is very stable.
Visual Studio 6 needs to run on Newer OS's Windows 7 64 bit... Windows 8?
What? I'm still running it on Win XP, Server 2003, 2008, Vista, and 7. WTF?
It's the only movie I've ever walked out on. Why? Because the very idea of being arrested and convicted of a crime you haven't yet convicted pissed me off to the point where I couldn't stand to watch another minute, so I left.
Analysis: Citizen has excessive anger issues, and is distrustful of authority. Recommendation: Citizen should be administered Thorazine daily via dart shot from drone aircraft.
A million times this. I'm a Wikipedia junky (obligatory xkcd [xkcd.com]) that searches things out of raw curiosity with no applicable reason whatsoever.
As am I. I've googled everything from how to make a nuclear bomb to necrophilia porn to how to make poisons, to how to start start a revolution, to how to hack computers....just to see what's out there.
As of this time, I have not built a nuke, collected any corpse porn, made any poison, overthrown any governments, or hacked any computers. I do write science fiction stories though, and I find this jumble of knowledge in my head is quite useful for concocting all sorts of interesting stories. No, I'm not published, no I don't write often, and I'm not any good either. I'd like to be though. And being able to research whatever I want might one day make that possible. If I have to start worrying about whether or not my searches look suspicious, it's just going to make me search out anonymizers, or another search engine....because you bet your ass my search strings look suspicious.
Researching Islam in one search, then researching America's power distribution infrastructure in another is going to pop up on someone's radar...but I've done that. They're not going to take into consideration that I'm an atheist and have absolutely no interest in destroying America aside from why and how a terrorist might do it. They'll just kick down my door and disappear my computers for a couple of years.
I don't disagree but enough FUD is coming off the surveillance orders without a bunch of hyper sensitive politically motivated individuals running around adding to it; a well thought out and moderated approach is the only viable answer.
A well thought out and moderated approach is what happens when enough hyper sensitive politically motivated individuals make enough noise. Otherwise, the issue is ignored. This is exactly our politics works in America today.
I see teachers driving around in their audis and BMWs, I drive a golf.
Umm, we've already established this website's figures are way off. And if you're a 6 year software engineer and can only afford a Golf, you need a new job. BMWs and Audis really aren't that expensive if you don't have any dependents.
Maybe so, but how much does a dev job pay there? I'd imagine not much more than that.
What's the relevance? My point is, he is clearly exaggerating to support his argument. Why not use average pool boy salaries in Beverly Hills as an example of national pool boy salaries? Because it's a number that's too skewed by the localized wealth to have anything to do with the national average.
Also interesting that he selected Colorado's most affluent city (Boulder - basically a mini San Francisco) to use as an example.
When I look at teachers pay I have no problem calling it high. How about $93k/year [teacherssalary.net] in Boulder, CO. $80-ish in surrounding communities like Longmont, and Fort Collins. $75k in Madison, WI where they're trying to recall Walker today.
Boulder is an expensive place to live, but I have a hard time believing the average public school teachers is $93k. Are you sure this isn't taking into consideration private schools and UofC? And it's interesting that you didn't take into consideration the most obvious adjacent community...Denver...which averages $32k less than boulder. And you lied, Longmont and Fort Collins average around $69k according to this website, not $80ish.
Military comes first, science gets the scraps.
Can't do science from the Gulag.
Nice to know we can afford to build spy satellites that we don't need. We have our priorities straight.
Does this really surprise you? You need to take another look at how much money is spent on the military and black budget stuff. These satellites are a drop in the ocean.
From a different article on this I read earlier today, it would seem that the fact that it was designed for wider views actually helps it for certain tasks - monitoring for supernovae, for instance.
That would likely be a waste of an orbital telescope. We have lots and lots of ground based scopes already watching for this. You can do this with really small scopes. Amateurs do a lot of it. We also have telescopes arrays that are specifically designed for covering large parts of the sky very quickly, they're better suited to this kind of duty.
It is confusing why some animals are protected & their killing outlawed,
It's really no more complicated than this: Cute animals are protected. They're protected because people get outraged when an animal with an attractive face is harmed, and a politician can create a law protecting them and get some votes. That's all there is too it.
Lightning is a common phenomenon. They would have seen it frequently...many times a year. But in this instant there was fire in the sky and dragons. What made this noteworthy? It certainly wasn't dragons. It's not said. My point is, it's not an accurate report of what was seen. Something probably happened...but we're left interpreting it many different ways. Could have just been a violent thunderstorm with lots of lightning that moved over the area of the observer. "Fiery and Dragons" could mean a comet, or meteor...could have been witnessed during the storm, or at some other point of the year...or it could be someone's fear induced imagination during a particularly violent thunderstorm. "immense sheets of light rushing through the air" - this could mean auroras, or again, just very violent lightning. Could have happened during the storm, or at some other time.
Auroras aren't that uncommon at that latitude though.
Interesting, but probably not a very reliable text. Like so:
A.D. 789. This year Elwald, king of the Northumbrians, was slain by Siga, on the eleventh day before the calends of October; and a heavenly light was often seen on the spot where he was slain.
or so:
A.D. 793. This year came dreadful fore-warnings over the land of the Northumbrians, terrifying the people most woefully: these were immense sheets of light rushing through the air, and whirlwinds, and fiery, dragons flying across the firmament.
A myth is still a myth no matter how many people believe that it is not
You might start singing a different tune if all those people had pitchforks...and they do, by the way.